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[MechE06]

I know that a lot of people do this to get rid of parasites, but how can you be sure that you won't get any new parasites once you get rid of old ones. Do most people just do a new flush every few months to avoid any new ones? And also has anyone had done a flush that has gotten rid of their acne only to have the acne return later?

[BenKweller]

How do you know you have parasites?

[MechE06]

I don't have any parasites as far as I know. I was just wondering how often people do flushing and if they pass any new parasites later on.

[BenKweller]

If you don't have parasites, then why do it?

[edenfield]

over 80 or 90 percent of the population has some type of parasite i believe

[BenKweller]

Ha, I'd love to see a statistic from a credible source about that. I've heard figures, at the highest, of around 30%. And that's often in studies of rural areas.

[MechE06]

I don't plan on doing it, unless everything else fails. I was just curious.

Has anyone had any bad experiences from flushing?

[BenKweller]

My stance on it is that the most "Bad" people have is a lot of nausea, diarrhea, etc...

It's not so much that it does a lot of bad as that it does no good. Anyone who says they were cured by it is believing it, instead of coincidence or other things, has cured their acne. In other words, it won't kill you but a liverflush is just a highly involved placebo. Nothing more.

[Lumas]

Ben, where is your proof. Having liver stones cannot be healthy or good. Maybe you think they arent stones, but rather the olive oil mix. Guess what, as soon as i drink the olive oil mix and lay down, i feel stones passing through my bile duct. It feels like balls moving. Its no placebo as it has cured countless amounts of peoples acne.

[BenKweller]

Countless even? Got me there.

A positive state of mind cures countless diseases. Countless people in the world are influenced by placebos. The word countless holds little ground.

I'm glad you felt balls moving; but if you say that as soon as you drank oil you felt them, unless oil has its own pathway there, you kinda justify what I say. Accelerated saponification. And your right, I don't think they're liver stones. Amazing how at 20 years old, our livers are TERRIBLY congested yet we live to be 90.

[Denise2]

How does "accelerated saponification" happen without the presence of sodium hydroxide (lye)?

[MechE06]

Has anyone done any flushing, yet your acne did not clear up?

If this isn't the case, how much has your acne improved? Is it completely gone?

[BenKweller]

Saponification can occur with lots of lyes -- not only NaOH. It can go through with KOH and many others.

[Denise2]

Right, so when did lemon or grapefruit start containing lye (in any form)?

[BenKweller]

After 1923. If you want to phrase that question in a less threatening way, I'd be happy to answer it. Thanks.

Anyway, a lye is classified as a strong caustic. Not all strong caustics, contrary to what your Chemistry 101 teacher will tell you, are bases. Acids, too, can be used in saponification though they are inefficient, require longer mixing, are generally more expensive, etc... Lemons, unless you create your own neutral fruits, contain caustics.

Go back to CureZone with that one.

[Nico]

How does "accelerated saponification" happen without the presence of sodium hydroxide (lye)?

He's just making up BS theories without any proof or evidence :mrgreen:

[BenKweller]

Did you take the time to read my post where I said that you do not need NaOH to make soap? Since your chemical experience is confined to the bottle of 409 under your sink, NaOH is sodium hydroxide.

Thanks.

[BenKweller]

Oh and accelerated saponification is not a "theory." It's saponification that occurs faster than the days that soapmaking takes. It depends on small "soap" surface area produced and limiting reactants being the caustics. Any other questions?

[MechE06]

Has anyone done any flushing, yet your acne did not clear up?

If this isn't the case, how much has your acne improved? Is it completely gone?

anyone?

[Denise2]

So you're saying that lemons and grapefruits became part of a fantastic secret experiment whereby the government went around injecting "caustic agents" into lemons and grapefruits?

Sounds like something out of the x-files.

So Mr. Ben Kweller; you wanna explain exactly how drinking any kind of oil (I mostly use safflower myself) can mix with lemon (not a "caustic agent") and produce a ball sometimes, and then not others?

Since your brilliance is obvious to us all, perhaps you can break it down to all of us ignorant fools who cleared our acne.