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[Packerfan785]

I understand taking refined carbs out of your diet, or removing glutinous carbs, but why do people insist on removing all carbs? Even fruit?

[AdamDolce10]

I agree its unhealthy for young men and women to get rid of all carbs.
I did and my acne looked horrible cause i had no energy, face was pure white, always cold and lost loads of weight.
I added all wholegrain carbs back in and I started to get much healthier.
Eat a balanced diet!!!
But I understand if people avoid carbs because of a ceoliac disease or canida.

[wibble]

I "think" people do it because of carbs impact on insulin. My own take on it, is that it may help them short term, but really its a difficult diet to maintain. I've gone the opposite way and go for low fat. Looking at some of the studies out there, I think there seems to be a suggestion that fat alongside carbs is worse for insulin sensitivity, but either without the other is ok (I don't have the links, but google will provide). If thats the case, I'm not really sure why. I also think that if you don't eat carbs, it may perpetuate the issue, making it more difficult to tolerate carbs later. So whatever, I think its good to have at least some carbs or fat.

I wonder how it would work if you could eat either fat or carbs at different meals, but not at the same time, and if it would somehow get around the insulin factor.

I also do actually wonder if those on the low carb diets may actually be getting more of an effect because they are cutting out some of the "bad" carbs.

[Warrior of Acne]

I do not understand either. Carbs=bad is one of the biggest misconceptions of the modern era. You will find loads of "low carb diets" and shit. You do not need a low carb diet, you need a diet with no simple carbs. People never learn :/

[DeAntonio]

Agree

Complex carbs are a must unless you want to deteriorate.

[DeAntonio]

I "think" people do it because of carbs impact on insulin. My own take on it, is that it may help them short term, but really its a difficult diet to maintain. I've gone the opposite way and go for low fat. Looking at some of the studies out there, I think there seems to be a suggestion that fat alongside carbs is worse for insulin sensitivity, but either without the other is ok (I don't have the links, but google will provide). If thats the case, I'm not really sure why. I also think that if you don't eat carbs, it may perpetuate the issue, making it more difficult to tolerate carbs later. So whatever, I think its good to have at least some carbs or fat.

I wonder how it would work if you could eat either fat or carbs at different meals, but not at the same time, and if it would somehow get around the insulin factor.

I also do actually wonder if those on the low carb diets may actually be getting more of an effect because they are cutting out some of the "bad" carbs.

The fat+carbs = insulin spikes thing is interesting, I always heard the opposite but Im gonna need to read more in depth on that. Thanks

Edited by DeAntonio, 07 November 2009 - 02:53 AM.

[bryan]

You do not need a low carb diet, you need a diet with no simple carbs.

Why is that?

[venam]

I am following paleo,which is lower in carb (I still eat some fruits). The idea is that w/e carbs you have will raise you insulin levels. Moreover, we did not evolve with a big intake of carb in our diet, although "primitive people" today have a more varied diet, all from no carb to 70% carb.

I am not planning to stay on it forever, but it is a good way to get everything under control. After that add tubers (and keep fruits) that is the carbs we have been eating for longer.

[strato]

I agree its unhealthy for young men and women to get rid of all carbs.
I did and my acne looked horrible cause i had no energy, face was pure white, always cold and lost loads of weight.
I added all wholegrain carbs back in and I started to get much healthier.
Eat a balanced diet!!!
But I understand if people avoid carbs because of a ceoliac disease or canida.

I've been on a carb/sugar free diet for 5 months now. I eat an apple once a week or even more seldom. That's the sweetest thing I eat, even carrots are out. I still have acne, but I'm afraid if I come off the diet it will go worse.

The point is, I no longer have energy problems. My body has adjusted itself, so it doesn't need much carbs. I think if I were to eat a piece of chocolate or something else sugary, I wouldn't be able to sleep for a few days. And I do work out a lot, I usually go to the gym everyday and jog 5-10 km and lift weights. Sometimes I pass out, but it's only for a second (when training). I don't think that's because of the diet, it's rather another problem... Btw, passing out is an amazing feeling, you lose your vision, hearing and all senses you have, you become totally numb and then it all comes back. It's like rebirth...

Edited by strato, 07 November 2009 - 09:09 AM.

[anonymou5]

The only reason I'm avoiding carbs and sugar temporarily is because I'm on the candida diet and cleanse, and it's working wonders. I finally got past the initial die off reaction (in which my acne got worse and I had very bad recurrences of rashes I haven't had since I was a little kid, now which I realize were caused by yeast overgrowth). Now I feel overall SO MUCH healthier, my skin is getting clearer and softer every day, my body acne is disappearing, my gas and bloating are GONE. I'm not saying that everyone has candida, but it is a very overlooked potential cause of acne.

[AdamDolce10]

Very true Anonymou5 it is a major cause but Im a soccer player and do a lot of physical work.
I believe wholegrain complex carbs are absolutely fine if you can tolerate them.

[ItalianBoy]

I'm completely the opposite. My diet is mainly carbs because otherwise I strangely lose weight and don't feel no energy, and it's bad because I'm already underweight and very thin, it took me 1 month to regain those kgs lost

[venam]

The only reason I'm avoiding carbs and sugar temporarily is because I'm on the candida diet and cleanse, and it's working wonders. I finally got past the initial die off reaction (in which my acne got worse and I had very bad recurrences of rashes I haven't had since I was a little kid, now which I realize were caused by yeast overgrowth). Now I feel overall SO MUCH healthier, my skin is getting clearer and softer every day, my body acne is disappearing, my gas and bloating are GONE. I'm not saying that everyone has candida, but it is a very overlooked potential cause of acne.

I would not call it candida. IMO the problem is blood sugar and anti-nutrients from grains. "Candida" diet addresses both of these issues though, so I guess the naming doesn't mater that much.

@Strato: boy, there's something wrong there. We are only born once for a reason, don't put your mom through that pain on a constant basis.

Edited by venam, 07 November 2009 - 10:09 PM.

[Warrior of Acne]

You do not need a low carb diet, you need a diet with no simple carbs.

Why is that?

http://www.ivillage.co.uk/dietandfitness/n..._156580,00.html

Read the article.

[alternativista]

Because for some reason, most people must do everything in extremes. Americans especially. I don't get it either.

[anonymou5]

The only reason I'm avoiding carbs and sugar temporarily is because I'm on the candida diet and cleanse, and it's working wonders. I finally got past the initial die off reaction (in which my acne got worse and I had very bad recurrences of rashes I haven't had since I was a little kid, now which I realize were caused by yeast overgrowth). Now I feel overall SO MUCH healthier, my skin is getting clearer and softer every day, my body acne is disappearing, my gas and bloating are GONE. I'm not saying that everyone has candida, but it is a very overlooked potential cause of acne.

I would not call it candida. IMO the problem is blood sugar and anti-nutrients from gain. "Candida" diet addresses both of these issues though, so I guess the naming doesn't mater that much.

i would call it candida in my case at least, because i can actually see it in my stools. they've never looked like this before in my life, and i don't believe that it's some strange coincidence.

[venam]

Because for some reason, most people must do everything in extremes. Americans especially. I don't get it either.

Moderation is for whimps! In a more serious note, yeah, I know what you are saying. As I said before, it is a good way to start things off at a faster speed, for me that is. Some ppl just feel better in it so they keep it that way.

I agree with you, way too many people take things too far.

The only reason I'm avoiding carbs and sugar temporarily is because I'm on the candida diet and cleanse, and it's working wonders. I finally got past the initial die off reaction (in which my acne got worse and I had very bad recurrences of rashes I haven't had since I was a little kid, now which I realize were caused by yeast overgrowth). Now I feel overall SO MUCH healthier, my skin is getting clearer and softer every day, my body acne is disappearing, my gas and bloating are GONE. I'm not saying that everyone has candida, but it is a very overlooked potential cause of acne.

I would not call it candida. IMO the problem is blood sugar and anti-nutrients from gain. "Candida" diet addresses both of these issues though, so I guess the naming doesn't mater that much.

i would call it candida in my case at least, because i can actually see it in my stools. they've never looked like this before in my life, and i don't believe that it's some strange coincidence.

It's not a coincidence, you are eating different food! But hey, if you believe it's candida, maybe I'm wrong. I am just saying from personal experience.

Edited by venam, 07 November 2009 - 10:12 PM.

[databased]

i would call it candida in my case at least, because i can actually see it in my stools.

You can see actual yeast cells in your stool? Man, I thought I was dedicated. Well, so long as you don't actually hear them talking to you, I guess you're probably OK.

[Packerfan785]

i would call it candida in my case at least, because i can actually see it in my stools.

You can see actual yeast cells in your stool? Man, I thought I was dedicated. Well, so long as you don't actually hear them talking to you, I guess you're probably OK.

Yea I had similar thoughts. I love when people diagnose themselves and create evidence for themselves.

[bryan]

You do not need a low carb diet, you need a diet with no simple carbs.

Why is that?

http://www.ivillage.co.uk/dietandfitness/n..._156580,00.html

Read the article.

I did, and I think that article is clearly wrong, because it makes some overly-broad claims. When the author said that complex carbohydrates "are usually packed with...vitamins and minerals", and then went on to say that "examples are breads, cereals...and pasta", I laughed out loud!

The part about how complex carbs "take longer to digest" than simple carbs is funny, too. As has been discussed on this forum many times already, the "complexity" of carbohydrates has little to do with how quickly glucose hits the bloodstream.