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[anonymou5]

Pharmaceutical corporations are not your friends, they are a multibillion dollar industry motivated only by profit. They literally make money by keeping you sick. Why do you think pharmaceuticals have so many side effects? Because they're highly toxic. They do not seek to cure the underlying causes of diseases, such as nutritional deficiencies and accumulation of toxins in the body. Instead, pharmaceutical drugs temporarily mask symptoms, and further poison your body. I urge you to take a more holistic approach to curing acne as I did. I've made great strides in clearing my skin, and I'm on the last limb of my long detoxification journey. I'll be making a post of my before and after results in the nutrition forum when I've completed my cleanses.

If anyone would like to argue these statements, I encourage it.

[RobDude]

Pharmaceutical corporations are not your friends, they are a multibillion dollar industry motivated only by profit. They literally make money by keeping you sick. Why do you think pharmaceuticals have so many side effects? Because they're highly toxic. They do not seek to cure the underlying causes of diseases, such as nutritional deficiencies and accumulation of toxins in the body. Instead, pharmaceutical drugs temporarily mask symptoms, and further poison your body. I urge you to take a more holistic approach to curing acne as I did. I've made great strides in clearing my skin, and I'm on the last limb of my long detoxification journey. I'll be making a post of my before and after results in the nutrition forum when I've completed my cleanses.

If anyone would like to argue these statements, I encourage it.

Yes - but the people selling you 'natural' supplements totally are. They are totally just out to help you. Right?

I mean, that's totally different when *they* sell you a product. Totally. Totally different.

[Warrior of Acne]

I don't think they want us to be sick, but I do agree that they are greedy sons of bitches! That's how every company is though.

[anonymou5]

Pharmaceutical corporations are not your friends, they are a multibillion dollar industry motivated only by profit. They literally make money by keeping you sick. Why do you think pharmaceuticals have so many side effects? Because they're highly toxic. They do not seek to cure the underlying causes of diseases, such as nutritional deficiencies and accumulation of toxins in the body. Instead, pharmaceutical drugs temporarily mask symptoms, and further poison your body. I urge you to take a more holistic approach to curing acne as I did. I've made great strides in clearing my skin, and I'm on the last limb of my long detoxification journey. I'll be making a post of my before and after results in the nutrition forum when I've completed my cleanses.

If anyone would like to argue these statements, I encourage it.

Yes - but the people selling you 'natural' supplements totally are. They are totally just out to help you. Right?

I mean, that's totally different when *they* sell you a product. Totally. Totally different.

It is different, because they're products are much more effective and nontoxic. They still operate to make money, as every business does, but they are not heartless. Companies which produce organic foods/products are helping the Earth by not polluting the soil with toxic pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, etc. Organic farming practices foster biodiversity (link). Many of them use greener forms of energy such as solar/wind power (Ex. Kettle Brand chips). Many make contributions to charities (Ex. Newmann's Own has given over 280 million dollars to various charities, and continues to do so). They are in turn helping create a better world for all of us.

[pureheart0875]

I disagree with you. Pharmaceutical companies want you to get better. For example psychiatric medications have saved peoples lives. I am living proof. Birth control has helped so many women with painful periods. Etc. Natural is great for people who are not in desperate need to dependable medications...but for those that do..pharmaceutical companies save lives.

[ccjk]

I disagree with you. Pharmaceutical companies want you to get better. For example psychiatric medications have saved peoples lives. I am living proof. Birth control has helped so many women with painful periods. Etc. Natural is great for people who are not in desperate need to dependable medications...but for those that do..pharmaceutical companies save lives.

cept birthcontrol causes blood clots and other sorts of side effects...

[tez90]

I do agree in the theory that many of the diseases we see today are caused by how we treat our own body eg. through our diet, excercise, exposure to the sun etc.

I disagree however on the blanket statement claiming that pharm companies are driven by nothing but profit. Are you aware of the strict therapeutic trials that each and every drug a pharm company develops needs to be put through?

Companies need to pump in millions of dollars to run clinical trials on their drugs to ensure efficacy and safety. There have been countless of occasions where companies would pump in millions of dollars to develop a drug only to have it fail the trials and hence are not allowed to have their product on the market.

Now these strict independant clinical trials run on each and every drug approved by the FDA/TGA etc. ensure that the drug at least shows evidence of efficacy (that it works.) This is in contrast to natural, organic products where these strict testing on efficacy and safety are not mandatory and thus not conducted by the companies which produce them.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that these natural products do not work. I am saying that there is no evidence that they will work as opposed to pharmaceutical products.

Now the reason why pharm products have usually a larger side effects profile than organic, natural products is due to the fact that pharm products are more concentrated. They usually contain one active ingredient and the rest of the drug is for the release of stability of the formulation. Natural products are usually a mixture of active ingredients and usually at lower doses. Hence a lower side effect profile is seen. This is because concentration of drug is proportional to effect. (on assumption of first order kinetics)

As a student entering the health care sector, we are taught "Medicine that works" and "Medicine that does not work." Now that could be anything including acupuncture, herbology, drugs etc. We are not strictly bias towards Western Medicine nor are are prejudice towards Complimentary Alternate Medicines. We are just taught to look at the evidence. So I am not saying that one is better than the other, I'm just saying that you should not look at Pharm companies as the bad guys. You know their products are saving millions of lives. One day they will probably save yours too.

[rich95]

Pharmaceutical corporations are not your friends, they are a multibillion dollar industry motivated only by profit. They literally make money by keeping you sick. Why do you think pharmaceuticals have so many side effects? Because they're highly toxic. They do not seek to cure the underlying causes of diseases, such as nutritional deficiencies and accumulation of toxins in the body. Instead, pharmaceutical drugs temporarily mask symptoms, and further poison your body. I urge you to take a more holistic approach to curing acne as I did. I've made great strides in clearing my skin, and I'm on the last limb of my long detoxification journey. I'll be making a post of my before and after results in the nutrition forum when I've completed my cleanses.

If anyone would like to argue these statements, I encourage it.

Yes - but the people selling you 'natural' supplements totally are. They are totally just out to help you. Right?

I mean, that's totally different when *they* sell you a product. Totally. Totally different.

It is different, because they're products are much more effective and nontoxic. They still operate to make money, as every business does, but they are not heartless. Companies which produce organic foods/products are helping the Earth by not polluting the soil with toxic pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, etc. Organic farming practices foster biodiversity (link). Many of them use greener forms of energy such as solar/wind power (Ex. Kettle Brand chips). Many make contributions to charities (Ex. Newmann's Own has given over 280 million dollars to various charities, and continues to do so). They are in turn helping create a better world for all of us.

Have you ever heard about the pollution caused by the runoff from manure used in farming? Also many lives are saved by the drug companies but yes they are also greedy but necessary.

[Sonic999]

Dunno which one's greedier, the holistic stuff producers or the pharmaceuticals.