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#1 Jezika

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Posted 08 October 2009 - 04:56 PM

I guess a good place to start would be how I got to where I am today, the "where" being day two of my journey down Accutane Avenue (okay, look, there's a reason I'm not a journalist). I can't remember how old I was when I started getting acne, but I imagine it was around the age of 13 or 14. I certainly don't remember it being an overnight thing, and nor do I remember it plaguing me in school like a promiscuous reputation (I didn't have that either, I'd like to think). I guess it started off fairly innocuous and manageable and continued like that into the first part of my teens. As a girl, you of course then discover the magic of concealer, which appears to be a small godsend not unlike finding a small wad of money on the ground when you're strapped for cash. And then, like some adolescent weed addiction, before you know it you're onto the hard stuff: foundation.

You start with the light gear at first and just apply more and more layers, and then soon even that won't do. You trawl the shelves in your local pharmacy for a foundation with better coverage and try a handful of different (and often expensive) products. Then the day comes when you realise that your head is bright orange and strangers have started circumnavigating you. By that time you're applying just as many layers of the thick, gloopy foundation as you did with the thin foundation. You go for a "colour adapt" brand in a vain effort to rid yourself of your luminescent citrus glow, and when you find one that makes you look like semi-reasonable-looking [albeit] pale satsuma but, on the good hand, doesn't cause you to peel or slips off your face after a few hours, you settle with it. For years. You don't let it go because it's about the 25th brand you've tried. Then you notice that your beloved high street foundation is in actual fact oil based (and probably part of a modern fascist movement as well) and that you're now 23, but you don't care and you stick by it like a loving parent of a murderous child (maybe).

Okay, so I've ranted somewhat, but foundation does play an important part of my life, as addictive, evil and exacerbating as it is to my acne. Hell, I'm so attached to it, I even get friends to bring me a hefty supply on trips to visit me since I emigrated from England.

Anyhow, as you can imagine, I tried all the usual topical and oral medications for acne. Some worked a bit, some didn't work at all, some seemed to work but the results were fleeting, some just kept it at bay and some were just useless. I was on tetracycline for the longest time, which had become annoying mostly because I'd been on it for so long that I didn't even feel there were any benefits up until the times I stopped taking it and my acne extended from scaring only people around me to also scaring animals.

I'll talk about the emotional effects that acne has had as well as its many practical implications another time, but all you need to know that after years of taking antibiotics, two dermatologists (one in Canada and one in England) agreed that accutane/roaccutane was for me.

And I agree, because why wouldn't it be? Until you've tried almost everything out there, you don't regard accutane with what I personally see as a desperation to go through anything and everything to achieve better skin. As I see it, bad stuff may well happen when I take accutane, but probably nothing too bad and nothing that I cannot handle. One thing is certain, however: if I don't take it, I will not know what it feels like to have beautiful skin or to live my life without the literally constant paranoia that comes hand in hand with this horrible ailment. So on balance, I do not for a moment doubt that it's a risk worth taking. If I don't do it, I'll definitely be miserable in this aspect, but if I do, I might just be changing my life for the better.

So, I've taken two pills now. I've briefed my boyfriend on a couple of things beforehand, namely that if I start to moan about having mood swings and fatigue, that's pretty typical of me at the moment anyway. Just today I ended up crying in private at work because I made a tiny, tiny mistake. It's stupid, but I doubt it's anything do with having then taken just my first accutane pill. I've also just started taking oral contraception, so no doubt my hormones are all over the place. I think this is an important issue, what with the potential mood swings and everything, because I agree with some of the people on here that have said it's easy to become more aware than usual of your behaviour and your body whilst you're on accutane, and then wrongly attribute these characteristics to the drug. I don't want to fall victim of that, because I know I probably easily could, so I've made sure the people close to me can remind me that I was definitely a bit crazy to begin with.

As things stand right now, I have two painful cysts on either side of my mouth, one on either cheek, about four older cysts by my mouth and on my cheek that are no longer painful, a couple of whiteheads and a generous sprinkling of red patches all over my face from blemishes gone by. I almost forgot to take into account the dozens of tiny spots on my temples because I'm just so glad they're always covered up by my hair.

*Sigh*

No results as yet, but then I've definitely seen no airborne pigs today either.

Edited by Jezika, 10 November 2009 - 10:16 PM.


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Posted 08 October 2009 - 05:01 PM

Hmmm.

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Posted 08 October 2009 - 06:25 PM

Hi Jezika, just wanted to say welcome and good luck! If you've been reading posts/logs, you've probably seen that there are a LOT of adult females here on Accutane.... and lots of supportive people on this website.
Keep the sense of humor....I had to laugh at some of your comments biggrin.gif And I can relate to your story. I'm 37 year old female on my second month of Accutane, have had acne since my teens. And have a slight addiction to makeup lol, will not leave the house without it rolleyes.gif I took antibiotics for probably too many years...and all hell broke loose every time I stopped taking them.
I won't tell my whole sob story on your log eusa_boohoo.gif but just wanted to say there are a lot of us going through similar things with this crazy drug and to wish you the best.
What dose are you on?

Edited by indygal, 08 October 2009 - 06:25 PM.


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Posted 08 October 2009 - 06:33 PM

DAY 3

I've actually only popped two pills so far, so I feel like I'm lying a bit, but I need to spring into action and make some nice, tasty cabbage soup with lots of veg after writing this entry, so I'll have my third pill as an hors d'oeuvre shortly.

As there's not much to write in the beginning, I might as well use this time to give my circumstances some more depth. If you find the tedious, jumpy, lengthy style of writing boring, I'll caution you now to reconsider going on further.

Anyhow, I just came home and have kind of been pondering the various ways acne has affected me over the past 10 years. I started thinking about it because when I got home, I felt a little peckish but thought "Ooh, I mustn't eat anything yet," because with tetracycline, which I was previously on for several years, you have to take the pills on an empty stomach, so twice a day I'd have to not eat for two hours, take the pill, then not eat for another hour. To say this was a nuisance is an understatement, but I guess I got used to it because even now I find it unbelievable that I can eat whenever I like. Moreover, accutane's meant to be taken with food, so it's like a small dream come true (let me tell you, I won't be struggling with that requirement). So this is just one way in which acne has indirectly affected my life.

Here are just a few others:

I don't go swimming

I just don't. I guess you could say the sad thing is that I love it, but trust me when I tell you I don't get sad: the relief I feel from not having to either expose my face to strangers or be quietly ridiculed for swimming with full makeup on simply overpowers the resentment I feel for not being able to do it. In the last five years, I've been in water probably on about three separate occasions. One time was in the swimming pool of my condo building earlier this year, mainly because my boyfriend was pestering me to join him and I felt like I had to at least make my huge rent bill count for something, but even then I had the ol' makeup on.

Another time was a few years ago visiting my dad in Malaysia. I'm an open water diver, you see, having achieved this status at the tender age of 12, back when acne was an unfamiliar concept. I draw the line, I suppose, at not going diving because it really is silly to let acne stop me when my dad's paid bucketloads for a special diving holiday. Even more silly would have been to dive with full makeup on (mind you, if I could have, I certainly, certainly would have). Needless to say I just had to resign myself to feeling tremendously ugly and grotesque throughout that entire week (although, strangely, a 40 year old dive master began sending me saucy e-mails following that diving holiday and had apparently been attracted to me. Whilst flattering, it's funny how only old or ghastly/ugly/pervy men seem to be attracted to me, and in any case, I'm not in the business of leading on or courting with men just about old enough to be my father. Communications soon ceased, you'll be pleased to know).

Another time was at a water park in Dubai, where I faced my fears with rare optimism and 15 layers of thick foundation. By the end of the day, those horrible little b*stards on my face were peeking through with amazing gusto, almost waving at me and taunting me. Never again, I said, which I must have meant because only this summer I had to face the embarrassing task of telling a new group of friends that I didn't want to go to a waterpark they'd arranged to go to because "I'm...er... not that into water." Right this minute, I'm shaking my head, I really am.

I take forever to get ready in the mornings

Okay, not literally forever, more like approximately 15 days and 23 hours. My makeup regime is this: wash face, cleanse face, moisturise face, pluck eyebrows, slap on thick, fascist, oil-based foundation until spots and red marks become only slightly noticeable (even if it takes 10-15 layers), apply eyeshadow, apply elaborate black eyeliner that I hope distracts people from my acne lower down but in actual fact probably makes people think I'm either vain, promiscuous or a modern goth, then finally apply mascara. I get through a 34mL bottle of foundation in about a month and a half and do not know what I'd do without it, which brings me onto...

I have a foundation dependence

I believe this may well be the reason why I've never been into drugs or smoking or even drinking, really. My addiction capacity is totally occupied with Max Factor Colour Adapt in 'creamy ivory', which I sometimes feel is worse than admitting a crack addiction (the brand, I mean, because people may not frown upon me so much if I was using a decent, specialist brand, but no: I'm a dirty, pikey Max Factor girl).

My dependence on this skin-coloured little beast is extensive to the point where I cannot just stay round a friend's or overnight at a party without careful planning, because if I don't have my 4 tonne makeup bag with me then that kind of thing's just totally out of the question. I remember a few years ago going out in London with a close friend of mine on a night where we ended up back at the house of a guy she'd previously been intimate with. Apparently love was in the air that night in Perfectskinsville because they spent the evening VERY much enjoying each other's company while I sat there wishing my phone battery hadn't run out so that I could at least play tetris to pass the time. Their very audible enjoyment of their activities that evening only served to mock me and my acne-ridden face (after all, how could I possibly have a chance at my very own night of passion with a face like this?). Anyhow, I guess it must have been so good that an impressive amount of time had dragged by, and before we knew it, the last tube/subway home had been missed. Too much in lust to consider a taxi, they begged me to stay over with them (eugh, not in that way). Too bitter to want to pay £45,000,000 for a taxi back to Clapham (these were London prices, after all), I gave in and decided to stay.

Ever the hero, the chap gave me his absent housemate's bed, which felt like being tossed a long-dead chicken as a consolation prize whilst other competitors were awarded with a feast of royal proportions. So, while I slept in a stranger's room, glancing around at all her girly clothes and trinkets and her disgustingly small selection of makeup, I spent the next few restless hours coming up with a masterplan to emerge from the situation with dignity and faceful of makeup both intact. As most fellow acne-suffering girls will know, there's an expiry time on a face of makeup, and with Max Factor foundation, as you can imagine, it's certainly nothing to write home about. I don't remember the ins and outs, but I think I spent the night sleeping like a rigid corpse and fled in the early hours of the morning, taking the first tube home and using my greasy hair to cover my revolting face as well as my radiating mortification.

This was a harrowing experience. If I ever stay away from home and I can't find my makeup bag within a few seconds, my pulse literally races and my mind immediately flits around scrambling for potential backup plans.

My mum regularly tells me that I put too much foundation on and that it looks horrible and gloopy, and I know it does, but what's the alternative? I'm going to look hideous either way, so I'd rather people think I'm a makeup freak than an acne freak. Mind you, neither is nice. An ex-boyfriend long ago told me that his mother had opined that I wear too much makeup. She was a very opinionated lady and the kind of person that a less-assertive person like me withers around. Her comment really upset me because I obviously knew I was wearing a lot of makeup, but had my reasons for it. I think if anyone could have the "natural beauty" look, they'd go for it. I mean, why wouldn't they? There's nothing wrong with being self-conscious. Well, there is, obviously, but I wish people would stop viewing that in a way where they think "She wears too much makeup, she must really love herself or be out to impress men," when I would bet that's a load of garbage in a lot of people's cases.

Acne is really inconvenient and embarrassing

It imposes so many restrictions: the time it takes to cover it up, the time and money it takes to try to remedy it, the social life it defecates on for you, the youth it snatches from you... then there are the little tedious things like its implications when you're starting a relationship. To many people, acne is a very deeply personal issue, and people rarely share deep, personal issues with brand new beaus. It's certainly not a USP, at the very least. I must say that constant demands for darkness and curious sneaking to the bathroom in the earlier hours of the morning to spend 25 very conspicuous minutes alone with your makeup bag doesn't exactly give your potential suitor the kind of air of mystery most people hope for. Refusing to stare into a man's eyes despite the levels of passion further extinguishes any kind of noteworthy romance. Face stroking? If they weren't two separate words in their own right, I doubt I'd even be capable of typing them through distinct unfamiliarity with the term. I've been with my boyfriend for just coming up to two years and whilst he's very supportive and whilst I'm honest with him about every aspect of my battle with acne, I still cannot bring myself to show him my face in full light. I'm forever squirreling about behind my hair or under the duvet, escaping his gaze or shouting at him to not look at me.

But you can't really tell other people to not look at you. All you can do is look down at your feet and feel their eyes burning into each of your inflamed cysts in turn whilst you're thinking "Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!". The number of awkward conversations I've had with people where I talk to them with my head bent peculiarly away from them and bowing downwards is probably enough for former colleagues to have almost certainly labelled me a genuine weirdo by now.

On one occasion a couple of years ago when I stayed round my friend's parents' house, which I often did, my friend's mother's partner came into my room to collect a plate from which I'd been eating a bacon sandwich. I had no makeup on, but of course he didn't know that I'd had this weird paranoia about my condition. To my utter, sheer, almost incomprehensible mortification, he leaned over to me as he took the plate from me and started wiping at my face, telling me that I had ketchup on my cheek. As you may have guessed, it wasn't the tomato-based condiment that was on my face after all (regretfully), but in actual fact a distinct red mark from a previous cluster of vicious acne spots. It's strange how your mind blocks traumatic events from your memory, because I don't remember the exact words exchanged, but I do remember my friend literally hissing at her mother's partner and apologising to me profusely. I felt like crying.

So day three, eh? I'm about to take pill three and no changes as yet. Perhaps tomorrow I'll tell you about my views on accutane because, you know, I'm, like, sooooo interesting. Oh, and maybe take some photos, although I am literally petrified that I will leave them on my camera and that they'll get into the hands of someone who'll discover the full extent of my dirty little secret.

Edited by Jezika, 28 December 2009 - 01:07 AM.


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Posted 08 October 2009 - 11:14 PM

QUOTE (indygal @ Oct 8 2009, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Jezika, just wanted to say welcome and good luck! If you've been reading posts/logs, you've probably seen that there are a LOT of adult females here on Accutane.... and lots of supportive people on this website.
Keep the sense of humor....I had to laugh at some of your comments biggrin.gif And I can relate to your story. I'm 37 year old female on my second month of Accutane, have had acne since my teens. And have a slight addiction to makeup lol, will not leave the house without it rolleyes.gif I took antibiotics for probably too many years...and all hell broke loose every time I stopped taking them.
I won't tell my whole sob story on your log eusa_boohoo.gif but just wanted to say there are a lot of us going through similar things with this crazy drug and to wish you the best.
What dose are you on?


Hi Indygal,

Thaaaaanks and also thanks for reminding me about the dosage and all that. I almost forgot!

First 2 weeks - 40mg a day
Next 6 weeks - 80mg a day
Beyond - to be discussed with derm
I weigh 142lb and am on accutane by Roche

I'd very much like to hear your sob story. I could probably read sob stories all day. It's amazing how alone you can feel with acne and then how eye opening it is to discover so many other people just like you. If you have your own logs and posts, I'll check them out and see how much sobbing I can do ; )

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 07:13 PM

DAY 4

Nothing out of the ordinary today apart from that the two cysty spots on either side of my bottom lip seem to have gone numb, like those tiny areas of skin have lost feeling. God know whether this is the result of accutane or just something that happens but I've not noticed before.

Anyway, here are some pics from a few days ago, when the accutane definitely couldn't have been involved yet. There are three with no makeup on and two are with makeup but after a long day of greasiness (what I call the "expired" look).

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 07:15 PM

Pretty girl, you'll be clear in no time.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 08:56 PM

QUOTE (Jezika @ Oct 9 2009, 12:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (indygal @ Oct 8 2009, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Jezika, just wanted to say welcome and good luck! If you've been reading posts/logs, you've probably seen that there are a LOT of adult females here on Accutane.... and lots of supportive people on this website.
Keep the sense of humor....I had to laugh at some of your comments biggrin.gif And I can relate to your story. I'm 37 year old female on my second month of Accutane, have had acne since my teens. And have a slight addiction to makeup lol, will not leave the house without it rolleyes.gif I took antibiotics for probably too many years...and all hell broke loose every time I stopped taking them.
I won't tell my whole sob story on your log eusa_boohoo.gif but just wanted to say there are a lot of us going through similar things with this crazy drug and to wish you the best.
What dose are you on?


Hi Indygal,

Thaaaaanks and also thanks for reminding me about the dosage and all that. I almost forgot!

First 2 weeks - 40mg a day
Next 6 weeks - 80mg a day
Beyond - to be discussed with derm
I weigh 142lb and am on accutane by Roche

I'd very much like to hear your sob story. I could probably read sob stories all day. It's amazing how alone you can feel with acne and then how eye opening it is to discover so many other people just like you. If you have your own logs and posts, I'll check them out and see how much sobbing I can do ; )

LOL, it's probably not sob worthy whistling.gif) but here's a post from me a while back just needing to get it off my chest and kind of summarizes what I've been through with this annoying facial condition. http://www.acne.org/messageboard/work-t245...23#entry2685223
Oh and by the way, your pics don't look like you have really severe, scarring acne....I bet accutane has you clear in no time!

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 09:09 PM

Hey Jez.

First of all, congrats with starting the accutane!

Second of all, I don't wear much makeup, but I can identify with alot of the other stuff you brought up (intimacy issues, people making comments about the skin, messed up social life etc). Accutane will make it all better, no worries.

Good luck with the course smile.gif

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 11:07 AM

Kimminz - thanks for the supportive words. As I've said before, it's so nice to not feel alone. Acne definitely has a way of making you feel alone. Am I the only one whose friends and colleagues all have perfect skin?

Indy gal - nice sob story! I'm on the same dosage as you and similar weight/height etc. How's the roaccutane going for you? Still no bad side effects?

Edited by Jezika, 10 October 2009 - 11:08 AM.


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Posted 10 October 2009 - 12:50 PM

Hi Jezika!

Glad to see you're on here to get support from all of us fellow acne sufferers! It's funny you mention that you feel like all your colleagues and coworkers have perfect skin. I started Physician Assistant school not that long ago, and I swear, my whole class has perfect skin. It makes me sick. My roommate has never had a pimple in her life and without make up she has a flawless complexion. I've been telling her a lot about how I am about to start Accutane and to make sure if I go crazy to tell me to stop being nuts, but when we were talking about it one day I mentioned how one cyst I have right now hurt really bad. SHE COULDN'T EVEN IMAGINE/ UNDERSTAND THAT ACNE HURT!!!! Oh my gosh, I was so ticked because it's like hellllllloooooo!! of course it hurts....UGH! rolleyes.gif

Haha, anyway, I understand where you're coming from...and before you know it, you'll have clear skin!!! I'll be by to check in on your progress!!
GOOD LUCK!! eusa_dance.gif
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Posted 10 October 2009 - 07:43 PM

QUOTE (Jezika @ Oct 10 2009, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kimminz - thanks for the supportive words. As I've said before, it's so nice to not feel alone. Acne definitely has a way of making you feel alone. Am I the only one whose friends and colleagues all have perfect skin?

Indy gal - nice sob story! I'm on the same dosage as you and similar weight/height etc. How's the roaccutane going for you? Still no bad side effects?


No horrible side effects.....the worst right now is my lips. They were OK actually up until this week, but I'm on week 7 now (starting my third week at 80mg) and they are SO dry. I slather tons of Aquaphor and Dr Dans Cortibalm on them all day long, but there's so much dry flaky stuff on them they look white. It's quite disgusting LOL. Exfoliating it just makes them sore.....
Other than that, nothing I can't handle. Dry eyes, but I use drops...and dry skin but manageable with a good moisturizer.

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 12:27 AM

DAY 5

I have maybe one or two new spots, so my face is behaving a little better than it was in the past few weeks, but it's normal for it to fluctuate like this and therefore I doubt it's down to the accutane. There's a little guy that grew into quite a beefy ol' thing overnight on my cheek and seemed to harden up by the morning as if singing its final chorus before returning for a passionate encore this evening. It's no solo, however: this wee champ's accompanied by pain and pus. What a delightful trio.

I am still using benzoyl peroxide in the evenings because my face has not yet become dry. I never put it on my nose, just the areas of my face where I get the acne, so I usually wake up with quite a greasy schnozzer, but this morning there wasn't as much grease as usual. Also, I think my lips are definitely getting dryer. They're not uncomfortable in any way, just very slightly peeling in the way they do when it's a cold, blustery winter. That kind of thing has never bothered me and I've never used lip balm, so whilst I know it will probably get much worse, I'm not anticipating it to be too bothersome. The cysts around my mouth that are now more or less going down do however make me look like I have coldsores. I feel a bit stilted thinking people are under the impression I have a form of herpes. Mind you, I'd seriously think about favouring any type of herpes over indefinite acne. Perhaps a comment like that would be insensitive, if I was joking. It's right up there with favouring terrible vision, an allergy to chocolate (it does exist) and maybe even treatable gangrene.

It's strange because although I am obviously not happy with having acne and although I'm not saying this whilst going through an initial breakout, I feel like I can put up with my troublesome face just because I know I've already started the process of sorting it out. It's very therapeutic. Even though I know it's not an overnight thing, just thinking back to all the years I spent staring at my reflection and helplessly shedding tears of despondence at the unreachable concept of a way out, the thought of finally doing something about it is unbelievably comforting. Mind you, I'm not sure how I'll feel if/when I get struck down by the Almighty Breakout. Watch this space.

In other related news, I found out today that my boyfriend's been on accutane. From his mum, of all people. Kept that one quiet, didn't he? Actually, he'd mentioned something in passing a few months ago about having taken little yellow pills when he was 17 for his facial acne, but when I'd probed him about dermatologist visits and bloodwork, he didn't seem to remember anything of the sort. I don't mean he closed up like a clam, I mean it was 10 years ago and I guess he doesn't remember that far back. Perhaps he "lives for the moment" or just has a lazy memory. I concluded that if he had been on accutane, he'd remember all the hassle associated with it. But no, he was certainly on accutane, or roaccutane, actually, back in England and his mother was able to recount to me every little detail over the phone.

She said the doctor hadn't actually mentioned any of the side effects that so many people tremble over these days, so he breezed through his course with the delighted ignorance of a small child making pretty paper dolls out of fifty dollar bills. He'd reported dry, red skin but all in all the drug had worked miracles and you'd never guess his present perfect skin had any issues whatsoever if you were to inspect it closely today. Helpfully, he magically seemed to recall his accutane days when I questioned him more heavily today, although he still wasn't convinced that that was what he had taken, or that he had endured monthly bloodwork and dermatologist visits (events that his mother vividly recalled as though they had happened yesterday).

I feel a bit silly now making a big ol' deal out of my "accutanity" when he'd taken it in his stride so masterfully back then, but I guess it was probably a big deal for him at the time. He also claims his acne was worse than mine, so that makes me approach his sympathy towards me and my ailment with less suspicion. Gosh, I wish I'd gone on accutane when I was 17. I could have avoided living the next six years of my life at only 80% of its potential.

Edited by Jezika, 28 December 2009 - 01:17 AM.


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Posted 11 October 2009 - 06:33 AM

Hey, I'm reading your log with delight! There are so many things I can relate to I don't even know where to start. It seems we have so many things in common (although my acne is different then yours). I know, I know, so many people here probably share similar feelings, but the way you resonate them through your words seems very familiar and close to me.

I'll keep reading and tracking your progress.

As for the foundation, just a suggestion: you can try Vichy Normateint, it covers really well and is oil free, range of colours is bad, but I end up mixing the two shades. Have you tried it yet?

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 09:47 AM

amazing log!! so detailed and it is definitely relatable. how many mg's are you taking? how long will you be on it?
well that's definitely comforting that your bf has been on accutane and he'll most likely be very supportive!
oh and the foundation story made me want to tear up. you know you either look like a ghost or a girl that has had too much self tanner on her face. or that it disappears mid day or you look cakey as hell. it just never looks right.
currently i'm using the revlon colorstay because it has amazing coverage and it stays put (even through swimming!!!) for almost 12 hours. good stuff but my problem is that i am more of a warm shade and these colors come for cooler tones. i look like i am beet red sometimes but i haven't found something that stays put so well.

i hope accutane clears you completely. reading your log has given me hope (i am going to get my prescription for accutane on the 17th. 9 months on this pill better get me clear skin lol). i wish you nothing but the best

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 10:55 AM

QUOTE (hopeinabottle23 @ Oct 11 2009, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
amazing log!! so detailed and it is definitely relatable. how many mg's are you taking? how long will you be on it?
well that's definitely comforting that your bf has been on accutane and he'll most likely be very supportive!
oh and the foundation story made me want to tear up. you know you either look like a ghost or a girl that has had too much self tanner on her face. or that it disappears mid day or you look cakey as hell. it just never looks right.
currently i'm using the revlon colorstay because it has amazing coverage and it stays put (even through swimming!!!) for almost 12 hours. good stuff but my problem is that i am more of a warm shade and these colors come for cooler tones. i look like i am beet red sometimes but i haven't found something that stays put so well.

i hope accutane clears you completely. reading your log has given me hope (i am going to get my prescription for accutane on the 17th. 9 months on this pill better get me clear skin lol). i wish you nothing but the best


Hello there. I'm starting on 40mg a day and after two weeks I go up to 80mg a day. I'm 5"8 and weigh 142lb. I think my derm said that five months should do the trick. I know it's dependent on weight, but it intrigues me how derms prescribe sometimes very different dosages and course lengths. I wonder what their reasoning behind it is.

So, you must be very excited! That's less than a week away! Be sure to keep a log and I'll definitely be checking up on your progress. It almost feels like we're part of an exclusive club. I'm aware that sounds really, really silly. Shhh, don't tell anyone I said that.

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 01:22 PM

Hey! I just read through your blog. We really do have similar cases. And that gives me hope that I'll be put on Accutane as well, but I gotta hate that for you. I mean, it's not even that it looks bad as much as IT HURTS. My face hurts! OUR faces... hurt! That ain't right.

I feel you on the makeup cycle. It seems so endless to me. I've been using mineral makeup lately, so some of my blemishes still show through but... I'm sort of over it, haha. I have a liquid foundation with more coverage for auditions, things like that. But if I'm just going to the store or to hang out with someone I'm VERY close to, the makeup stays off. In a way, it's empowering. I went to Walgreens without makeup and even talked to some people while waiting for prescriptions. Everyone focuses so much on themselves anyway that they rarely think about MY acne for more than a couple seconds. It feels good to have someone validate your humanity regardless of race, gender, age, sexuality, and yes... the condition of your skin. So I try to dish it out in hopes of getting some back. I often do. smile.gif

With people I know, though, I totally do the head tilt thing and I'll also put my hand on my chin, like I'm being thoughtful or something. Nope. Just covering my zits until you go away.

Good luck with this whole thing. I'm enjoying reading your blog and getting your insights on the process. Once I finally get started, I will be asking you many many questions. biggrin.gif

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 04:32 PM

QUOTE (Jezika @ Oct 11 2009, 09:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know it's dependent on weight, but it intrigues me how derms prescribe sometimes very different dosages and course lengths. I wonder what their reasoning behind it is.

The severity of acne and how well you manage the side effects, I believe.
They usually start slowly, like 0.5-0.7mg/kg to see how your body reacts, and then go up to 1.0-1.2mg/kg or even higher.

As for Vichy foundations, there's also Aera teint, which I personally haven't used but some of my friends say it's very good. Norma teint is very easy to apply, good at covering everything (marks, scabs etc) without looking too fake, but shades are horrible, so I mix 15Opal and 25Nude to get something decent. It's the only foundation I stuck to for almost 2 years. You can try the samples on your hand and then leave the store and see how it looks in daylight - it's veeery different from the bright fluorescent or whatever lighting inside. You see, I'm suggesting this foundation to you, but I went out shopping for a different one the other day, because I got a bit tired of Normateint and wanted something with less coverage. They were raging about Maybelline Affinitone, so I had to give it a go. The beauty assistant, whom I never looked in the eye helped me pick the right colour, and then she told me something, I thought I was hallucinating (even if she is paid to say stuff like that), she sad: you also have Dream Matte Mousse here, but it gets inside your pores a lot, but you obviously don't have large pores. Yeah, right! I don't have large pores! Nevermind, she's my favourite beauty assistant from now on lol, I'm buying everything from her :D


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Posted 11 October 2009 - 06:00 PM

DAY 6:

Well, what can I say? It seems you guys have been somewhat of an inspiration on the makeup front, for I bit the bullet and went to the drug store today to find a new foundation. I felt like I was off to buy something big and important like...er... breast implants or an annuity. It was actually probably the most pleasurable makeup hunting experience I've had to date. I went with my mum and boyfriend, and whilst he went off in search of his own moisturiser (since I started on accutane, he's had Cetaphil envy: it turns out his overpriced Burt's Bees lotion is too heavy for his liking), my mum and I patiently scanned the brightly lit specialist cosmetic shelves.

Arwena, you should be proud to hear that I went straight to the Vichy section and managed to locate the foundation that you recommended. I see what you mean about the lack of colour choice. I think I was about to settle on 'opal' when my mum brought over a mineral foundation by Lise Watier. That's when things got tough. You see, I'm the most indecisive person you could ever meet. The world's lucky I've never been on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire. Or Deal Or No Deal, for that matter. It's possibly the second biggest bane of my life. No prizes for guessing the first.

In the end I decided it had to come down to the ingredients, about which I actually know absolutely nothing, other than having recently heard that parabens cause awful things like skin cancer and civil war. Well, my current evil Max Factor foundation, I discovered this morning, has not one, not two, but three different types of paraben in it. Coupled with its oil-based nature, this foundation is clearly more than the fascist scumbag I'd previously believed it to be. I suspect that it may well in fact be the devil itself, capable of slaying puppies and children alike.

Anyhow, narrowing my eyes to study the font size 2 writing on the back of the Vichy foundation, I saw one paraben listed amongst the cascade of tongue-tying chemicals. For God's sake. I mean, why would this be easy? I took a deep breath and weighed up my options. I suppose I can overlook this, I thought. At least it's only a third of the paraben evil that my current foundation contains, and this one's oil free. I needn't have worried, though, because it turns out that Vichy's concealer version has a lot more coverage (duh), matches my skin better and has no parabens, interestingly. Before you all gasp, no, I'm not planning on using concealer as foundation (although still tempted, I stopped that when I was 15).

I'm planning on using the concealer on my fluorescent red spots and then using the Lise Watier foundation on top, which it turns out is also paraben-free, is a mineral type, seems to provide much better coverage and matches my skin colour better. Hopefully using a concealer means I can use less makeup overall. At least I bloody hope so, because that crap ain't exactly cheap, you know? I think the main reason I had such a pleasant experience at the drug store is because I didn't even converse with one beauty assistant elf. It's not that they've suddenly developed a respect for people's space and privacy, it's just that the only elf on duty happened to be on a lengthy phone call, although I did see her longing gaze flitting towards me several times as I chuckled contentedly.

So, I am quite excited, but yet to see whether these new products fulfil the approx 15 other criteria I've laid out for my foundations over the past 8 years or so. At the very least, it should be much better for my skin to finally be using something oil free and perhaps I'll no longer be secreting my body weight in grease by the end of each day. I'll report back on my findings tomorrow, if anybody actually cares.

In other news, I was looking at photos of myself from about this time last year and I can't see any bumps on my face. I didn't realise my acne had gotten worse during this time. Actually, I'm not sure whether it's just camera trickery. My skin does often look flawless in photos, thanks to a second skin worth of foundation, so maybe it's just that. I certainly recall only months before that being in tears every morning because of my giant, throbbing cysts. It's definitely not that bad now. Yet...

Still no huge side effects to report. Lips seem to have been OK today, but I did have a very itchy scalp at certain times. I quite enjoyed it, though. I loooove scratching itches, so it's almost a cheeky bonus.

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 10:11 PM

DAY 7

OK, so I know I said I'd obviously only apply my new concealer on red spots rather than all over my face, but I hadn't quite anticipated the extent of the redness. It was simply easier to just... slather it on. I managed to limit myself to a single layer though, you'll be pleased to know. Well, plus a few layers of the foundation. All in all, the two colours were totally perfect, both products were easy to apply, the overall look was more natural and lasted till the end of the day without looking like it was slipping off my face or showing more redness through. You could still see a bit of redness from the more mischievous beneath even when I applied it, but that's just because I chose not to cake it on like usual. It doesn't bother me as much now because I know (yes, KNOW) that it will all be right as I'm kicking this sucker in the nuts soon. I feel quite uplifted as well because it might actually improve my face to no longer be using oil-based foundation. It's like I'm adding to my acne arsenal.

My lips are still fine i.e. not overly dry and although my scalp is a tad itchy, I decided not to wash my hair tonight because it didn't seem as greasy as usual. So far, I'm quite enjoying the side effects. Ha. Next week I'll undoubtedly be moaning about bleeding dry lips, itchy everything and killer headaches. By the way, MissPiggy, I did forget to mention I've also been having an itchy face. I don't feel I yet require restraint, but I may employ my boyfriend's tactic of wearing mittens to bed (he's had an itchy face recently too) if the itching worsens.

My only concern at the moment is the fact that my kitten accidentally scratched my lip, and just as I was about to be free of looking like I have hideously infectious coldsores, I now look [misleadingly] more diseased than ever. I'm also a bad truth-teller, so when I try to warn people it's not a coldsore and not to eye everything I touch suspiciously, they smile and nod in a way that indicates they think I'm lying. Now imagine how bad my actual lying is. Uh, there's nothing wrong with coldsores, by the way, for anybody who may have one. I hear they're quite companionable.





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