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#21 greg09

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 10:11 AM

Did my 3rd roll just there, took photos. Will post them up soon.

Anyone had any luck with improving skin texture on the nose with dermarolling?

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 05:34 AM

Just finished 4th roll last night.Rolled with 1.5mm for the cheeks and temples and 1.0 for forehead wrinkles(no scars).Then i did the saline injections on some scars that are left.Cleaned afterwards with alcohol then applied iodine.I let the iodine sit for 20 mins,then i washed it off and applied Bio oil which i have been seeing great results with.I drank a big protein drink,one hour later big glass of milk before bed,milk does make a good effect on my skin.So far my progress is the best yet,and i did the fraxels (except repair).And i'm doing better than any doctor has done for me.I'm feeling so confident its amazing after 20+ years.2 years ago i went to my surgeon for Sculptra for loss of collagen,and i remember seeing my face up on the flat screen and being mortified.Now with the sculptra giving me back my shape and additional collagen,plus all the rolling, saline and staying consistent is paying off. The sculptra was like laying down a foundation because without collagen,you really won't see results (my opinion)for the said procedures.So happy these days,the confidence is a good thing.

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 10:55 AM

QUOTE (greg09 @ Sep 8 2009, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have rolled twice - 5 weeks apart with 1.5mm roller. First time not really aggressively enough, 2nd time much better.

It is 4 weeks since my 2nd roll and I am 100% sure that I have had improvement in a number of scars, both ice pick and rolling. I am not going to post up too much about this until I have done 4 treatments as I don't want to get people's hopes up without being sure that all is good but I swear to you that it has already worked for me and I am hopeful that by the end of the year I will have gotten rid of a lot of my scars!!

My issue at the moment is that I can still see very sightly the area where I rolled as a very, very slightly different shade - like a very, very, very mild tan. Absolutely no one else can notice it and I only see it when I am literally a few inches from the mirror but has anyone else noticed this or that when they wash they can see the area where they rolled as being a very slight red colour for a few seconds?

My skin isn't irritable at all and in a way it is good I suppose to see that underneath my skin something is still happening - hopefully collagen production!! Like I said it has been 4 weeks sicen my second roll and I will be rolling again in another 2 weeks, I just don't want to give myself some sort of bizarre permanent tan that stops at my eye sockets... lol...

On a final note, chin up people as I have definitely had very good results and I am not bullshitting or imagining it - just be careful as rolling is a serious procedure and shouldn't be treated as some minor ritual!

Good luck!


where abouts are you scars ?

#24 greg09

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 10:51 AM

QUOTE (overcome @ Sep 27 2009, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just finished 4th roll last night.Rolled with 1.5mm for the cheeks and temples and 1.0 for forehead wrinkles(no scars).Then i did the saline injections on some scars that are left.Cleaned afterwards with alcohol then applied iodine.I let the iodine sit for 20 mins,then i washed it off and applied Bio oil which i have been seeing great results with.I drank a big protein drink,one hour later big glass of milk before bed,milk does make a good effect on my skin.So far my progress is the best yet,and i did the fraxels (except repair).And i'm doing better than any doctor has done for me.I'm feeling so confident its amazing after 20+ years.2 years ago i went to my surgeon for Sculptra for loss of collagen,and i remember seeing my face up on the flat screen and being mortified.Now with the sculptra giving me back my shape and additional collagen,plus all the rolling, saline and staying consistent is paying off. The sculptra was like laying down a foundation because without collagen,you really won't see results (my opinion)for the said procedures.So happy these days,the confidence is a good thing.



Nice one, well done and thanks for posting, it's always good to hear people's success stories as it helps out the others struggling with this.

QUOTE (v_singh @ Sep 27 2009, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (greg09 @ Sep 8 2009, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have rolled twice - 5 weeks apart with 1.5mm roller. First time not really aggressively enough, 2nd time much better.

It is 4 weeks since my 2nd roll and I am 100% sure that I have had improvement in a number of scars, both ice pick and rolling. I am not going to post up too much about this until I have done 4 treatments as I don't want to get people's hopes up without being sure that all is good but I swear to you that it has already worked for me and I am hopeful that by the end of the year I will have gotten rid of a lot of my scars!!

My issue at the moment is that I can still see very sightly the area where I rolled as a very, very slightly different shade - like a very, very, very mild tan. Absolutely no one else can notice it and I only see it when I am literally a few inches from the mirror but has anyone else noticed this or that when they wash they can see the area where they rolled as being a very slight red colour for a few seconds?

My skin isn't irritable at all and in a way it is good I suppose to see that underneath my skin something is still happening - hopefully collagen production!! Like I said it has been 4 weeks sicen my second roll and I will be rolling again in another 2 weeks, I just don't want to give myself some sort of bizarre permanent tan that stops at my eye sockets... lol...

On a final note, chin up people as I have definitely had very good results and I am not bullshitting or imagining it - just be careful as rolling is a serious procedure and shouldn't be treated as some minor ritual!

Good luck!


where abouts are you scars ?


On my cheeks and forehead.



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Posted 29 September 2009 - 03:56 PM

Thanks Greg,one thing i will never,ever do is leave this room when things are great.I hate when posters suddenly fall off,9 times out of 10 its because something worked and are happy....then leave us...that sucks.Well heres my update,i'm peeling where i rolled.I went and did cardio yesterday then went swimming at my gym,then sat in a sauna for 15 sweating minutes...that combo really tightens your face and also the heat makes your face flush which causes more blood flow,which creates healing.Funny thing about rolling with me is that i look kinda bad for a week,then it starts to improve big time by the third week,the last 2 times i noticed that.Plus a little side note,don't take fish oil or vitamins for 2-3 days because it thins the blood which is not good for healing.Good luck man...rolling has been a good thing,as long as you wait 6 weeks or more between rolls.

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 10:52 AM

I got peeling as well, didn't know if that was to be expected. My face also looks like crap for a few or two after rolling and improves by the end of the 2nd week, start of the 3rd week.

I haven't noticed any improvement to my large pore size which is disappointing though.

Thanks again.

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 11:41 AM

Thanks a lot Greg et al, this sounds very promising.
I purchased a set from the website mentioned today, and it only cost $156, a fraction of almost any treatment I have done. Anyway, I can't wait when it arrives in two weeks. Seems I don't need to spend any money for these freaking scars for a good 8-9 months!

My only question here is: if I do it on a Friday night, when will I be able to go out comfortably without attracting too much attention? I work so I need to plan in advance.

Thanks again for all the valuable information. This is sort of a light of hope after all the frustration. Plus, it is really cheap.

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 03:18 PM

I will post up some photos of the days after treatment very soon. When I roll on friday I am fine with going out and about on monday, still a bit red but nobody would really notice and if anyone did I'd just say my new soap irritated my skin. Your skin will look a bit crap e.g. pores will seem larger for about a week but the sunburn look should be mostly gone within 3, 4 days.

Good luck.

PS - ANYONE HAD ANY SUCCESS WITH ROLLING ON THE NOSE? THIS IS MY ACHILLES HEEL AT THE MOMENT AND IT IS GETTING ME DOWN THAT THE NOSE MIGHT NOT RESPOND TO ROLLING.

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 06:33 PM

Overcome, sounds like you're doing great. You're probably
a little a ahead of me on the rolling so its nice to learn from
you on what's working for you.

I've not rolled my nose greg so i can't really say much on that.
I would guess skin is skin, so why not???

After my first 1.5 roll I was pretty red a few days. I actually
expected it to be worse but it wasn't. My face was pretty
sore the day after, just red for maybe 2 days, and the redness
continued for maybe 4 days, diminishing each day.

I'm debating whether to wait 2 months or 3 for my next roll??
Since I'm 40 years old I heal a little slower than 10 years ago,
so I may wait an extra month.

best wishes to all

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Posted 02 October 2009 - 12:09 AM

Greg,
Do you find it difficult when you roll your nose? It just seems that with the dermaroller, it would be quite awkward rolling on top of a protruding, non-flat surface like the nose, as opposed to the cheek or forehead. Have you thought about gently needling your nose scars with individual needles? Sorry, if you already have said that you do and I just missed it, but that might help.

I also read somewhere that someone had good success with crossing their nose with TCA, but in a much lower percent, like 50% or less. And they still got good results. 100% is risky and tends to leave it worse off because of the nose's thin skin, but I'm sure you already have thought about this...




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Posted 03 October 2009 - 03:07 PM

Rolling with the 3 line roller on the nose is fine, not a problem at all. I am just unsure whether the nose on the skin will react in a similar way to say my cheeks which have responded well.

Anyone out there been rolling and noticed an improvement in pore size? So far I have zero improvement to my large pores, scars yes but pores not at all. I am quite disappointed by this as my pores are horribly big and make me look old despite that fact that my skin is otherwise in good nick.

Thanks

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 10:15 PM

[quote name='munsoned' date='Sep 11 2009, 03:51 PM' post='2706871']
[quote name='KnicksRock' date='Sep 10 2009, 10:10 AM' post='2705861']
Hey Guys,

I am glad to hear you guys are having such great results...if any of you were to show picture sbefore and after that would be great.

Can someone post information (links) about dermaroller...

theres info on derma rollers all over this forum as well as a sticky at the top of the page..I use a1.5mm derma roller purchased on ebay, I use led lights, 15% topical c serum at the right ph balance off ebay, and I use 31g 5mm diabetic pen needles to individually needle my deepest scars..I purchase them from americandiabeteswholesale dot com

.Hi Munsoned!

With the led lights, which particular one r u using?

I hear baby quasar is about the best one around for scarring.

Thanks

Honeygirl

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 03:25 PM

hey greg are you using any topicals on your nose or Led lights

BRD told me for large pores to use LED therapy becuase some of his patients had reported smaller pore size. also Leds improve the resutls for scars.

i would also use a topical that increase collagen and elastin like retinol or terproline which is mentioned quite alot in the 'ok guys' thread

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 04:05 AM

Already using terproline but is doing nothing for my nose, am looking into leds but at the moment I am thinking that I might just have to get used to my nose sad.gif

Honeygirl, will sort out photos soon I promise.

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 04:27 AM

awesome greg! look forward to it.

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 04:45 AM

oh greg, i read on another site about dermaroller that its not unusual to get some temp colour change. that its just toxins coming to the surface of the skin and that it will resolve. smile.gif

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 05:32 AM

QUOTE (greg09 @ Oct 5 2009, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Already using terproline but is doing nothing for my nose, am looking into leds but at the moment I am thinking that I might just have to get used to my nose sad.gif

Honeygirl, will sort out photos soon I promise.


how long have you been using Terproline for and is it the professional stength ?

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 02:35 PM

how about the pics?

do you guys think that this could be used for this type of "scarring" too?
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/Bump-Nose...nu-t228948.html

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 06:09 PM

Sorry guys, have been up to my eyes but will make sure to sort out the photos this weekend.

Really pleased with how my scars have responded - i mostly have ice picks. Gutted though that it is doing nothing for my large pores and I hope that in time it will have some effect because this year the pores on my nose have become large and look scarred. never had cysts on my nose just blackheads but I had the blackheads all over my nose for 16 years and reckon that the pores are scarred as a consequence sad.gif



Oh and honeygirl (love that name!) the colour issue I reckon will completely disappear in time, it is reallllyyyy hard to notice it now, only if you stand close to a mirror and even when you graze your hand it takes weeks for the skin to return to it's original time.

Be back soon!

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 02:46 AM

I am mad busy at work so I will have to make this short and sweet.

3 rolls so far, 1.5mm 3 line roller. 1st roll not that aggressive, 2nd two more so - but don't go mad people, this is your face!!!

Very painful to roll UNLESS you do your face in sections and don't rub the EMLA cream in when you apply it, leave it quite thick under the cling film for 45 mins then rinse it off, wipe with antibacterial solution (I use detol diluted.) I do one cheek and half of chin then 2 hours later other cheek and half of chin then 2 hours later forehead then 1 hour later my nose. Doing it this way takes up almost your whole day but means that you are not overdosing on the ELMA - and that your face will be numb when rolling. Read the "OKguys" thread about elma as it is dangerous and you can literally have a heat attack!!!

I try to roll with 8 lines vertical, 8 horizontal and 8 diagonal on a patch of skin but usually I just end up not counting and just rolling for a random amount of times.

My scarring is mainly a load of ice pick scars in a large patch on my cheeks and some on my forehead, all seem to have responded well.

After the rolls my face is VERY red and I bleed at points during rolling but like I said don't go overboard, its better to do too little rolling than too much!!!

After rolling I apply terproline and continue to do this for a while BUT it cost me £110 for a large tube - they put the price up ANOTHER £20 due to sales from here I would imagine. PLEASE NOTE that I am unsure whether the Terproline is needed and have since bought much cheaper Bio-Oil and am going to try this as I suspect that the actual breaking up of scar tissue with the roller is the main reason for the healing and the topicals just aid recovery. The Bio Oil is a fraction of the price and contains vitamins etc... and so I will give this a try once I have finished my terproline to see how that goes. At the moment I use the Bio Oil during the day (quite greasy though) and terproline at night - I have not had any breakouts or clogged pores as a consequence of using either for months.

After rolling I noticed that some of my scars had changed shape slightly and some looked worse, with further rolls and time the scars have gotten smaller than they were originally and my skin is definitely improving - I'd say about 25 - 30% with just 3 rolls

Your skin will look like crap for about 10 days at least, really red for about four there really obvious pores and crappy texture up until somewhere in the second week.

The rolling so far has not improved my large pores or scarred pores on my nose though I have only rolled my nose twice.

When rolling I have noticed that at times it seems to make some holes, not many but they kind of look like scarred pores. It may be that these are small scars that are just remodelling, I am not sure and will update you but this is even more reason to be careful!!

I don't work for dermaroller, think they could be cheaper for what they are and do sometimes think about what the long term consequences of rolling could be - I fgure that it should most likely be fine as your ski recovers from cuts and bumps all the time but no one really knows about the long term of rolling.

Please read other thread such as "Okguys" as I found all of the info here that I needed before rolling. make sure to clean your rollers and face properly - washing with Hibiscrub 2 days before and after seems like a good idea - but again I am not a medical expert and this might aggravate some people's skin???

In summing up I can't believe that my acne scars are going but am really hoping I can sort out my pores and nose scars then I will be over the moon!!!

Good luck people!!!!













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