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#61 wingrie

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 11:53 PM

QUOTE (overcome @ Oct 13 2009, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey guys/gals my good skin and scars have improved a lot from dermarolling without a doubt.I'm 41 and my skin looks better than my 20's for real!!!.I never got little holes from dermarolling.But like clock work it starts to look better 3 weeks after a rolling session.Texture and complextion has all improved.I was never consistent with the dermaroller until my last 4 rolls every 6 weeks.I was too convinced it sounded too easy to true....but it is.I was under the impression if it did'nt cost a lot of money,its not gonna work.I was wrong.I do also use fillers for volume and saline for additional help and a collagen drink by "Thedoctorwithin.com" awesome stuff.The way i look at it is if you were to get 5% improvement every 6 weeks from dermarolling and theres 52 weeks in a year,that is 8.66 or just say 9 rolls x 5% =45% improvement in one years time...not bad.But i've gotten 15% better per roll since i started.

Hi overcome, what size roller do yu use? i have a .75mm and was not sure how often to use, and is this size too short?

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 11:57 PM

So is the purpose of the bio oil to promote healing? I am assuming so. I bought the .75mm derma roller from ebay-china seller- and I have the emla cream but didnt need to use it. Do you think the .75mm is a large enough MM?? And I am afraid to use the EMLA cream since I saw a comment about a heart attack??!

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 11:51 AM

QUOTE (wingrie @ Oct 27 2009, 11:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (overcome @ Oct 13 2009, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey guys/gals my good skin and scars have improved a lot from dermarolling without a doubt.I'm 41 and my skin looks better than my 20's for real!!!.I never got little holes from dermarolling.But like clock work it starts to look better 3 weeks after a rolling session.Texture and complextion has all improved.I was never consistent with the dermaroller until my last 4 rolls every 6 weeks.I was too convinced it sounded too easy to true....but it is.I was under the impression if it did'nt cost a lot of money,its not gonna work.I was wrong.I do also use fillers for volume and saline for additional help and a collagen drink by "Thedoctorwithin.com" awesome stuff.The way i look at it is if you were to get 5% improvement every 6 weeks from dermarolling and theres 52 weeks in a year,that is 8.66 or just say 9 rolls x 5% =45% improvement in one years time...not bad.But i've gotten 15% better per roll since i started.

Hi overcome, what size roller do yu use? i have a .75mm and was not sure how often to use, and is this size too short?

I use the 1.5 mm every 6-8 months for collagen remodeling,the .75 is good for topicals and slight pigmentation problems.The .75 is good twice a week for me.If you do the 1.5 you have to invest in a numbing cream.Re-read the threads here,there is a wealth of information.

Edited by overcome, 28 October 2009 - 11:52 AM.


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Posted 31 October 2009 - 10:46 AM

The 0.75 twice a week? Really? I thought that was more of a once a week roller but I only ever looked into the 1.5mm as it was suited moreso for my scars. I look forward to the day when I can drop down to the .75 and the good news is that one day I reckon I will be able to which feels pretty damn good!

Just out of interest, have you noticed the roller improve wrinkles? I am just curious about this, luckily I don't have wrinkles (probably thanks to my large pores ironically) but I never really bought into the roller sorting out wrinkles as in my view what it succeeds at is tearing up the scar tissue and I can't really see it doing too much to wrinkles.

As for the Bio Oil wingrie, yeah that's exactly what it does - read up on it and see what you think, not too expensive and you need very little to cover your entire face so it lasts for ages. Very pleased with mine as it keeps my skin really soft and prevents dryness as well - and no I don't work for Bio Oi, I just like it smile.gif

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 04:20 AM

QUOTE (greg09 @ Oct 31 2009, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The 0.75 twice a week? Really? I thought that was more of a once a week roller but I only ever looked into the 1.5mm as it was suited moreso for my scars. I look forward to the day when I can drop down to the .75 and the good news is that one day I reckon I will be able to which feels pretty damn good!

Just out of interest, have you noticed the roller improve wrinkles? I am just curious about this, luckily I don't have wrinkles (probably thanks to my large pores ironically) but I never really bought into the roller sorting out wrinkles as in my view what it succeeds at is tearing up the scar tissue and I can't really see it doing too much to wrinkles.

As for the Bio Oil wingrie, yeah that's exactly what it does - read up on it and see what you think, not too expensive and you need very little to cover your entire face so it lasts for ages. Very pleased with mine as it keeps my skin really soft and prevents dryness as well - and no I don't work for Bio Oi, I just like it smile.gif


Hey Greg,i really don't have wrinkles,but i think with continued use of the dermaroller your pores will shrink.I made a mistake about the .75 being used twice a week,it should be once.I have like 3 rollers and i get confused,the .25mm is twice a week. Its been 5 weeks today since i rolled and now i'm starting to feel tightening and some of the scars are really reforming themselves and i'am getting pretty impressed with the results.The key is just time and being consistent.

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 06:47 PM

Cool, thanks for coming back to help us out. my next roll with the 1.5mm is in another week or two (my 4th). Will have another few rolls with the 1.5mm and then maybe switch to the .75 for areas that have very little scarring. I am not expecting much in terms of my pores and so if there is any improvement I will see that as a bonus.

One final question is why have you chosen to just use the 1.5 every 6-8 months? At the moment I am rolling with the 1.5 every 6-7 weeks and am not using any sort of roller in between. I feel that so far this is going well for me. have you reached a point where you don't need to use the 1.5 quite as much?

Thanks

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 06:59 PM

QUOTE (greg09 @ Nov 1 2009, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cool, thanks for coming back to help us out. my next roll with the 1.5mm is in another week or two (my 4th). Will have another few rolls with the 1.5mm and then maybe switch to the .75 for areas that have very little scarring. I am not expecting much in terms of my pores and so if there is any improvement I will see that as a bonus.

One final question is why have you chosen to just use the 1.5 every 6-8 months? At the moment I am rolling with the 1.5 every 6-7 weeks and am not using any sort of roller in between. I feel that so far this is going well for me. have you reached a point where you don't need to use the 1.5 quite as much?

Thanks

Whoops i meant every 6-8 weeks sorry.My next is coming up next Saturday,which would be 6 weeks,but i think i'm gonna wait 2 more weeks because i've been feeling skin tightening this past week...so i think its starting to change a little more.As far as using the 1.5 i will keep using it,but maybe at one point every 3 months or more as things look better.

Edited by overcome, 02 November 2009 - 04:51 AM.


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Posted 01 November 2009 - 08:46 PM

Greg

do you think the dermarolling (or are you dermastamping , sorry can't remember smile.gif is making the pores worse, or not?

I think I recall u saying that the enlarged pores started BEFORE you started dermastamping????

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 06:16 PM

Thank OC! Do you roll with other rollers in between your 1.5mm sessions? I would have thought that you would need to leave the skin be for those 6-8 weeks, rolling wise, no?

No HG, the rolling hasn't been the cause of my large pores, wouldn't recommened it if I thought it was. The pore issue is in my genes and now that i have accepted that and am still seeing scars improvements I am feeling better again.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 05:09 AM

QUOTE (greg09 @ Nov 4 2009, 06:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank OC! Do you roll with other rollers in between your 1.5mm sessions? I would have thought that you would need to leave the skin be for those 6-8 weeks, rolling wise, no?

No HG, the rolling hasn't been the cause of my large pores, wouldn't recommened it if I thought it was. The pore issue is in my genes and now that i have accepted that and am still seeing scars improvements I am feeling better again.

Hey Greg,i really don't roll in between anymore...i did at first.Even tho its shallow with a .25mm i think that the skin is in trauma after a 1.5mm roll for some weeks after.This last roll,my skin did not start to look good till the 4 week mark...it usually took 2-3 weeks.This week will mark 6 weeks since my last roll (4th) and i think i will wait another 2 because of continued tightening.Rolling has been amazing along with the bio-oil.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 01:52 PM

Thank you and the best of luck.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 07:12 PM

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I'm sorry to ask this, i'm sure everyone keeps asking. However, I've read the posts and can't seem to find the roller on ebay.

Where are you guys buying the 1.5mm roller? What brand, and is it the medical physician grade?

Thank You.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 11:31 PM

QUOTE (sanjoseskin @ Nov 6 2009, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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I'm sorry to ask this, i'm sure everyone keeps asking. However, I've read the posts and can't seem to find the roller on ebay.

Where are you guys buying the 1.5mm roller? What brand, and is it the medical physician grade?

Thank You.


Some posted this link in other thread. I am planning on getting it, but I haven't used it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-3-LINE-DR-ROLLER-S...=item5ad34455fd

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Posted 07 November 2009 - 03:04 AM

Hi and excuse me for my poor english. I'm french.

I'm 26 years old and my face has some severe scars. I've not count them but I have approximately 40-50 ice picks and 10 rolling scars. One year I had a session of Pearl Cutera. In France it costs me 400$. After 6 months, I thought the results were great (10% on ice picks and 50% on rolling scars, I'm not joking!) but my dermatologist didn't want to hear about other techniques such as dermaroller or TCA cross. So I decided to give them a try in order to see if I can have some significant results .

I would like to know something. How long does it take for a good 1.5 mm rolling session?
I used my 0.5 mm Dr. Roller once a week for about 10 minutes and was quite red for about 2 or 3 days.
2 weeks ago i decided to use my 1.5 mm roller. I didn't use any numbing cream but I think I rolled pretty hard (maybe not enough because I felt some pain), until my cheeks were covered with blood. The session lasts 10 minutes. First I was almost violet but after a day or two, the redness completely dissapeared!!! I don't understand why. Maybe my skin is accustomed to such kind of procedures.
So far, after 5-6 sessions with a 0.5 mm dermaroller and one with a 1.5 mm model (remember this one is only two weeks old), I think I have a slight but definitive improvement; maybe 15%. The 1.5 mm seems to work well biggrin.gif. Oh and twice a day I use Affirm 3x cream which contains 0.6% retinol. I plan to switch to tretinoïn soon.

Edited by icepikachu, 07 November 2009 - 03:05 AM.


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Posted 21 November 2009 - 08:18 AM

It takes me much longer than 10 minutes but I don't go mad and rush. I do my face in section an hour apart - 1 cheek then the other then forehead then nose and chin.

By day 3 I am moderately red, you shouldn't be REALLY red days after, it dies down well by day 3 though with red still showing up until day 5.

Good luck!

QUOTE (sanjoseskin @ Nov 7 2009, 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
eusa_whistle.gif

I'm sorry to ask this, i'm sure everyone keeps asking. However, I've read the posts and can't seem to find the roller on ebay.

Where are you guys buying the 1.5mm roller? What brand, and is it the medical physician grade?

Thank You.


I buy mine from drroller.eu site. I t has free shipping and you get a discount when you buy a few.


Quick update - 4th roll last week. Went well, am much quicker now and doing it in sections really helps this as the numbing cream doesn't wear off by the time you have moved to another part of your face.

Really pleased with the results and kept a close eye on whether or not roller was causing pores to enlarge or scar, didn't do either.

Still need another number of rolls but so far so good and I am already looking forward to my next roll in January. Left 8 weeks between the rolls this time because I couldn't get time off work, 6-8 weeks is what I will aim for from now on.



Oh and I don't use ice packs at all any more, no need with the sections rolling.

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Posted 22 November 2009 - 04:56 AM

Hey everyone,i just did my fifth roll last night.Same procedure,a little bit of blood followed by some saline injections.I put iodine on twice before going to bed and again when i woke up.I will be doing this all day while staying home as i hear interesting articles on iodine being regenerative.I did wait 8 weeks this time from my last roll as i seen more progress towards the later stages of 6-8 weeks.This dermarolling is so worth the time invested.The dreaded reflection off of tinted windows etc. is getting better....much better.

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Posted 22 November 2009 - 11:23 AM

QUOTE (overcome @ Nov 22 2009, 04:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey everyone,i just did my fifth roll last night.Same procedure,a little bit of blood followed by some saline injections.I put iodine on twice before going to bed and again when i woke up.I will be doing this all day while staying home as i hear interesting articles on iodine being regenerative.I did wait 8 weeks this time from my last roll as i seen more progress towards the later stages of 6-8 weeks.This dermarolling is so worth the time invested.The dreaded reflection off of tinted windows etc. is getting better....much better.


overcome, hearing feedback from you and others here really keeps me positive about
rolling. thanks for sharing and everyone's happy about your positive results.
I know the feeling about the dreaded window reflection, honestly, right now I
won't even look at the reflection outside in a car window. I'm also seeing steady results
which is great. My feeling is in the next four months or so I'm gonna get nice results
ifI keep progressing at the same rate. THUMBS UP.

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Posted 22 November 2009 - 05:25 PM

Reading about other's reactions to windows etc... is bizarre as it is like reading a leaf from your own book.

The positive thing that I take from my scars is that I am not a superficial person, I have learnt to seek true happiness in life as it kept me up when feeling down and I learnt to paint on my down days and now that I am mostly up I love painting and it is something that will stay with me for life!

Thanks guys for checking in, hopefully others will get a little hope from hearing that we are pleased with how things are going.

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 04:37 AM

The deceiving factor about "reflections" with windows,especially tinted ones is that its not as bad as you think...when you look in a regular mirror,its much better.Thats not the way you look (tinted window) in real life.Anyway its day 2 of my fifth roll and 95% of the redness is gone suprisingly,i think its from the iodine i apllied all day long.The microswelling makes me look like theres not a thing wrong with my face...but this microswelling is so much better than my last ones and it has to be because of the steady improvements i been getting each time i roll.I plan on exfoliating the next couple of days which is fine.I will keep posting in here for the next 2 months or until my sixth roll around January 21st. Good luck everyone and keep rolling.

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 09:34 AM

Ok its day 6 and all the peeling is done and i look much better.One thing i would like to add is that my face is really starting to take shape...what i mean is i'm starting to see a fullness in my face that i haven't seen in years!!! there is a better complexion that is coming thru and i'm feeling very confident.Before i give dermarolling all the props,i do have to give sculptra and saline njections credit too!! as bio-oil,Collagen powder and Green Vibrance has been monumental i think for the complexion lately.Its a super food that has like 10 servings of greens in it.It knocked my cold out in days as it is a Pro-biotic food source too.Good luck all.





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