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[Breaker]

ZNP bar is a cleanser made by Stiefel Laboratories . It contains:

Ingredients: Active Ingredient: Pyrithione Zinc 2%

Inactive Ingredients: Cetostearyl Alcohol, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Corn Starch, Disodium Lauryl Sulfosuccinate, FD&C Blue No. 1, Fragrance, Glycerin, Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Mineral Oil, PEG-14M, Silicon Dioxide, Sodium Potassium Lauryl Sulfate, Titanium Dioxide, Trisodium HEDTA, Water.

As far as Im aware, some drugstores sell it in America. Otherwise, I would just do a google search for it and see who sells it online.

Some people do find the ZNP bar can dry out their skin; so you might want to try Dermadoctors born to be mild. Though, this would be the expensive option.

[joellie]

we recently found out my little brother suffers from rosacea, seborrheic dermatitis, and acne on his face. we thought it was just ezcema, since he suffers from that too.

he is 14 and he never wants to leave the house. i feel so bad for him, i can't help. no one should have to deal with this!

i did some research, but i find it all very shoddy and one website says yes to this and another say no to that, it's just frustrating. he went to one derm and they put him on metrogel and he cleared up wihtin a day! but then he went to a diff one, who gave him retin a and said metrogel was bad. before that he was trying coal tar soap, and then gentle cleanser, steroid, and then milk on magnesea.


has anyone gotten rid of this? how is there no cure?! it's all over his face! is it contagious?

im just at alost on how to help him. he does have a lot of dandruff as well we have selson blue and nizoral 2%.

He should try a sulfur soap. I have acne (face & back) and SD (head & face) and Dr. Joesoef's 10% sulfur soap works wonders for me (totally cleared up my face & back). Just google it. It's pretty inexpensive. I also use it as shampoo (they also sell a shampoo). Check out the website.

Hello,
Can you please explain in detail what I can expect treating SD with the 10% sulfur soap?
do you still have some tiny rash? or is it totally away.. For how long are you using this product?
what climate are you living in?

thank you

[ceci2468]

we recently found out my little brother suffers from rosacea, seborrheic dermatitis, and acne on his face. we thought it was just ezcema, since he suffers from that too.

he is 14 and he never wants to leave the house. i feel so bad for him, i can't help. no one should have to deal with this!

i did some research, but i find it all very shoddy and one website says yes to this and another say no to that, it's just frustrating. he went to one derm and they put him on metrogel and he cleared up wihtin a day! but then he went to a diff one, who gave him retin a and said metrogel was bad. before that he was trying coal tar soap, and then gentle cleanser, steroid, and then milk on magnesea.


has anyone gotten rid of this? how is there no cure?! it's all over his face! is it contagious?

im just at alost on how to help him. he does have a lot of dandruff as well we have selson blue and nizoral 2%.

He should try a sulfur soap. I have acne (face & back) and SD (head & face) and Dr. Joesoef's 10% sulfur soap works wonders for me (totally cleared up my face & back). Just google it. It's pretty inexpensive. I also use it as shampoo (they also sell a shampoo). Check out the website.

Hello,
Can you please explain in detail what I can expect treating SD with the 10% sulfur soap?
do you still have some tiny rash? or is it totally away.. For how long are you using this product?
what climate are you living in?

thank you

I live in South Florida (mostly hot & humid but I'm indoors a lot). I have been using the sulfur soap for about 3 months. My SD does not show. All flakes and itches are gone. I must use the soap everyday or the symptoms will come back. I have SD in my ears and in my nose but I use a 2.5% prescription hydrocortisone cream about once a week for that.

[joellie]

thank you
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I live in South Florida (mostly hot & humid but I'm indoors a lot). I have been using the sulfur soap for about 3 months. My SD does not show. All flakes and itches are gone. I must use the soap everyday or the symptoms will come back. I have SD in my ears and in my nose but I use a 2.5% prescription hydrocortisone cream about once a week for that.
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hi,
thank you... In or on the nose? can you check for me.. immediately after washing rub tightly with your fingers push hard over your nose area.. if there are still some really tiny rashes? I tried another sulphur soap and helped me good but I still got tiny rashes after I did that... that's for me the major check../test I am at the moment trying to get the best results..
but not all combinations go well.
I am at the moment trying sapropell with Apple cider vinegar.. but thinking about going back on the sulphur and than maybe put coaltar-aloevera gel on it as well.. I have also good results with a coaltar sulphur based creme.. but only when you apply it really thin. after I put some thin layer of vaseline on it.. control it over a year now.. but the treatment is too much time consuming. I don't want to use ketakenozol or any other steroids cause on the long run your skin and your collagen will replace or will go away.

I experienced that on one place.

till writes

[dsrfgsertwe]

thank you... In or on the nose? can you check for me.. immediately after washing rub tightly with your fingers push hard over your nose area.. if there are still some really tiny rashes? I tried another sulphur soap and helped me good but I still got tiny rashes after I did that... that's for me the major check../test I am at the moment trying to get the best results..
but not all combinations go well.
I am at the moment trying sapropell with Apple cider vinegar.. but thinking about going back on the sulphur and than maybe put coaltar-aloevera gel on it as well.. I have also good results with a coaltar sulphur based creme.. but only when you apply it really thin. after I put some thin layer of vaseline on it.. control it over a year now.. but the treatment is too much time consuming. I don't want to use ketakenozol or any other steroids cause on the long run your skin and your collagen will replace or will go away.

yeah, i'm mostly clear right now except for tiny rashes around my nose, and sometimes my eyelids feel itchy...ive been using ACV for about two weeks now and i think it's working really well. i also use aloe vera every day. currently i use the oil cleansing method at night and in the morning i alternate between sulfur soap (kills the SD), oat & peppermint soap (gently exfoliates & dries out oil), and selsun blue (kills the SD; only using it every couple of days because i don't want the sulfates to break me out). and yeah, i spend so much time taking care of my face every day...basically have to plan my life around this huge regimen...

[ceci2468]

Hi Joellie. I have SD on my scalp, face (nose and below my eyes/cheeks), in my nose, in my ears. Between the sulfur soap and shea butter as moisturizer, I have no more symptoms. No more flakiness, no more itching, no more redness below my eyes/cheeks. I found sulfur works better for me than coal tar or salicylic acid.

My dermatologist had prescribed to me Luxiq foam for the scalp and 2% hydrocortisone for face, in ears and in nose but I didn't want to use steroids too often. Luxiq works, is quite strong but also very expensive (over $100 without insurance) but it's also not good to use too often.

[joellie]

hi Ceci,

thank you.. but it sounds that you have Rosecea or a combination cause normally SD wouldn't get on the cheeks... but I can be wrong.. anyway I think it's worth trying for me.
how about letting the sheabutter away did you already try that..?

bye

hi shepinabottle,

thank you too. I already tried AVC with really good results.. but after a time I got really horrible skin build up.. the yellow flakes.. So I don't know..on the long run.

[ceci2468]

hi Ceci,

thank you.. but it sounds that you have Rosecea or a combination cause normally SD wouldn't get on the cheeks... but I can be wrong.. anyway I think it's worth trying for me.
how about letting the sheabutter away did you already try that..?

bye

hi shepinabottle,

thank you too. I already tried AVC with really good results.. but after a time I got really horrible skin build up.. the yellow flakes.. So I don't know..on the long run.

Hi. It's definitely SD. The redness was more below my eyes (like how football players put that black line under their eyes but mine was red). Shea butter's great. Non-comedogenic. I use a small pea sized amount for my face and neck and stay moisturized all day.

Have you tried drinking ACV? That works great for skin and body aches among other things. Detoxes the body like you wouldn't believe.

[REB]

So i should go pick up some sulfur soap to treat this? Any suggestions for a brand i can get at Wal-mart?

How long till i see signs of improvement?

Im on accutane as well, will that be a problem?

Also i must not understand all this but 18 now. Will i still have this when im 30?

I guess I dont understand the lifestyle of this condition.

[joellie]

[quote name='joellie' date='Aug 10 2009, 06:33 AM' post='2683105']

hi Ceci,

Yes I tried drinking AVC and it definitely helps for a while.. I think sometimes you must skip a week cause than it will lose its effectness. but sure try it.
the red is on a strange place... but differtent people different places

I will try. keep you updated.

bye

[dsrfgsertwe]

So i should go pick up some sulfur soap to treat this? Any suggestions for a brand i can get at Wal-mart?

How long till i see signs of improvement?

Im on accutane as well, will that be a problem?

Also i must not understand all this but 18 now. Will i still have this when im 30?

I guess I dont understand the lifestyle of this condition.

if there's a whole foods anywhere near you, you can definitely get it there. there's a good one that i use called grandpa's thylox soap. lather it up in your hands, pat the lather onto your face, leave for 60 seconds, and rinse.

just DON'T RUB, and use a really intense moisturizer since you're on acctuane. don't wanna go drying yourself out.

[brightpromis3]

i joined this board just for this thread. i've had SD for 6 years now (i'm 21) and still flaring up to this day. there were moments when my SD would rarely flare up but that was about 2 years ago. i dont know how i did it but it just died down a bit. it sucks that this is a chronic skin condition because i hate going out when the SD is really bad. i have SD around my nose creases, eyebrows, forehead and scalp. it all started in the scalp when i was 12-13 years old. my dermo had me use those keta shampoos all my life and it does help a bit for controlling but nothing impressive. i hate the fact that i cant take a shower without using an SD shampoo. i want to be able to just take a shower without prescriptions. i dont think i can go camping anymore since my SD would flare if i dont properly wash my scalp and face. i pray that a dermatologist find a cure for this disease. after 6 years of having it, my self-esteem has dropped and taking showers become a 10 minute thing rather than 3 minutes (i'm a guy). i hope when i get a lot older it'll just give up on me and die out naturally. there's my two cents on SD. just wanted to get that out.

[primo1]

I just read from page 1 and I cant believe people are just treating it externally. You SHOULD also treat it internally. Starve the yeasts and you will most likely kill those malassezia yeasts on your face. Eat alkalizing foods, stop eating those sugars (just google the rest). I really think it's BS whenever I hear SD's are not curable. Doctors want you to believe that so you'll keep coming back paying more and buy those prescription medications. You will never hear from a dermatologist that diets affect your seborrheic dermatitis.

[ipodblack]

I just read from page 1 and I cant believe people are just treating it externally. You SHOULD also treat it internally. Starve the yeasts and you will most likely kill those malassezia yeasts on your face. Eat alkalizing foods, stop eating those sugars (just google the rest). I really think it's BS whenever I hear SD's are not curable. Doctors want you to believe that so you'll keep coming back paying more and buy those prescription medications. You will never hear from a dermatologist that diets affect your seborrheic dermatitis.

SD is incurable
Diet has not conclusively proved in one way or another that it affects SD.
Same mumbo jumbo as ACNE. People say "oh diet is causes pimples which it has not been scientifically proven"
SD can be treated and controlled but never cured. Trust me, I've done my research.
Might wanna do yours..
People with SD have weak immune systems that for some reason just cannot fight off the malassezia furfur on our faces.

[MrNeutron]

Starve the yeasts and you will most likely kill those malassezia yeasts on your face. Eat alkalizing foods, stop eating those sugars (just google the rest).

First, Google is not a doctor. Second, sugar has no effect on malassezia because every little kid out there would have it. And lastly, SD is not connected to intensinal yeast.

People with SD have weak immune systems that for some reason just cannot fight off the malassezia furfur on our faces.

People with SD do not have weak immune systems but have a genetical skin problem. Eg. their skin is irritated by oleic acid produced by yeasts. Everyone has malassezia on their skin.

[ipodblack]

People with SD have weak immune systems that for some reason just cannot fight off the malassezia furfur on our faces.

People with SD do not have weak immune systems but have a genetical skin problem. Eg. their skin is irritated by oleic acid produced by yeasts. Everyone has malassezia on their skin.

Actually yes they do. Why do you think many of the people infected with HIV suffer from SD?
And we know HIV is an immune disorder. There is a correlation there.

[MrNeutron]

Yes, I'm aware that immune system plays a role as well but there's no need to go around comparing HIV patients with SD patients. Since SD is essentially dandruff, which a lot of people have I wouldn't say all of those people have weak immune systems as well.
A research has been done that proved how SD starts when there is no malassezia around, just oleic acid. I think it was done by P&G scientists.

[Jason24]

I have mild seborrhoeic dermatitis too. Because of my anxiety disorder I've had difficulty going outside (panic attacks), and after about 2 years, I developed the condition. Since I'm getting little sunlight I'm currently using a Vitamin D supplement (2000 IU daily) to see if that has any effect.

From what I've read, these supplements might help too:

Biotin
Vitamin B Complex
Gamma-Linolenic Acid (GLA)
Pro-biotics/Pre-biotics

[MrNeutron]

Because of my anxiety disorder I've had difficulty going outside (panic attacks), and after about 2 years, I developed the condition.

It could actually be that your anxiety disorder is fueling SD since SD develops on patients with neurologic diseases.

Since I'm getting little sunlight I'm currently using a Vitamin D supplement (2000 IU daily) to see if that has any effect.

I think small children and babies can become vitamin D deficient (and that occurs only during the winter), adults get plenty of it through diet. I would rather eat vitamin D rich food than take it otherwise.

From what I've read, these supplements might help too:

Biotin
Vitamin B Complex
Gamma-Linolenic Acid (GLA)
Pro-biotics/Pre-biotics

I tried all of the above. The only one that had a positive effect for me was GLA.

[Jason24]

It could actually be that your anxiety disorder is fueling SD since SD develops on patients with neurologic diseases.

Yeah, I've thought about it too. I'm currently trying to get my anxiety disorder under control, and perhaps my condition will then improves in time. Psychological stress can certainly aggravate skin conditions.

I think small children and babies can become vitamin D deficient (and that occurs only during the winter), adults get plenty of it through diet. I would rather eat vitamin D rich food than take it otherwise.

From what I've read, vitamin D deficiency is actually pretty common, especially in people that get little sunlight and people with dark skin. The Linus Pauling Institute recommends that generally healthy adults take 2000 IU of supplemental vitamin D daily, and the Harvard Public School of Health recommends up to 2000 IU of supplemental vitamin D as well. There is even a vitamin D derivative (Calcipotriol) that's prescribed for certain skin conditions like psoriasis. Sure, psoriasis is not completely comparable to seborrheic dermatitis, but the extra vitamin D is worth a try imo.