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Posted 02 February 2010 - 04:17 PM

where can you get the sulfacetemide and sulfur products in the uk and by what names?

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 06:09 PM

I think perhaps I'll try a different approach to the situation, not a new one by any means, but a natural one. Today I saw my naturalpath who prescribed me some regular high vitamin D, along with a B complex. In addition he suggested tea tree oil mixed with coconut oil as a moisturizer. He also suggested that I use an Avacodo as a mask to help sooth any irritation.

Funny enough, on my way home, I came accross a soap shop to ask about "Black African Soap" which is supposed to do wonders for SD, and the lady who owned the place suffered from SD as well! She said as she got older it became more settled down, and it only seems to make a return during times of stress, aka, exam time. Well, she said I should stay away from sulfers, and rely on Shea Butter and a goats milk soap. But I don't know if this will eliminate the probem or not. I'm sure it will moisturize, but will it reduce inflammation and redness.

Has anyone successfully reduced the redness of SD?
Does anyone know how to stop it from spreading to another area of the face?
Has anyone healed this naturally?

I'm going to be on a fairly strict vegan/gluten free/wheat free/ diet, and incorporate a lot of raw foods and cut out most if not all sugars that are not derived from fruit. I'll be taking supplements for my adrenal glands (which are a big factor in the immune system!) and will be taking alfalfa supplements along with a few other selections. I'm going to discontinue anything unnatural and keep you all informed on the progress!

Still if anyone reads my previous post on page 17 I'd love to hear what has worked long term for everyone and what has not.

- With love,
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Posted 02 February 2010 - 06:16 PM

QUOTE (aLeXeLa @ Feb 2 2010, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
where can you get the sulfacetemide and sulfur products in the uk and by what names?


The sodium sulfacetamide 10% and sulfur 5% is a prescription you can get from your dermatologist.

You should also be able to find sulfur products (soaps, mask, maybe lotion) over the counter. But you can definitely find them online. I use a sulfur soap called Dr. Joesoef's 10% sulfur soap (you can google it) that's sold online. There are also other sulfur soaps like Grandpa's Thylox which is 3% sulfur. Coral Kavi is a 10% soap sold online. Adult Acnomel is a 10% sulfur lotion. Queen Helene mint julep mask has sulfur in it. DDF therapeutic sulfur mask.

In the UK I think they spell sulfur "sulphur" but it's the same thing.

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 06:23 PM

QUOTE (Winter Sage @ Feb 2 2010, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think perhaps I'll try a different approach to the situation, not a new one by any means, but a natural one. Today I saw my naturalpath who prescribed me some regular high vitamin D, along with a B complex. In addition he suggested tea tree oil mixed with coconut oil as a moisturizer. He also suggested that I use an Avacodo as a mask to help sooth any irritation.

Funny enough, on my way home, I came accross a soap shop to ask about "Black African Soap" which is supposed to do wonders for SD, and the lady who owned the place suffered from SD as well! She said as she got older it became more settled down, and it only seems to make a return during times of stress, aka, exam time. Well, she said I should stay away from sulfers, and rely on Shea Butter and a goats milk soap. But I don't know if this will eliminate the probem or not. I'm sure it will moisturize, but will it reduce inflammation and redness.

Has anyone successfully reduced the redness of SD?
Does anyone know how to stop it from spreading to another area of the face?
Has anyone healed this naturally?

I'm going to be on a fairly strict vegan/gluten free/wheat free/ diet, and incorporate a lot of raw foods and cut out most if not all sugars that are not derived from fruit. I'll be taking supplements for my adrenal glands (which are a big factor in the immune system!) and will be taking alfalfa supplements along with a few other selections. I'm going to discontinue anything unnatural and keep you all informed on the progress!

Still if anyone reads my previous post on page 17 I'd love to hear what has worked long term for everyone and what has not.

- With love,
Melanie


I've heard about increasing b-complex vitamins. Also heard good things about borage oil and evening primrose oil. I tried the coconut oil on my face but it aggravated my SD. Also aloe vera gel (the edible kind) is great to put on topically. I also use a sulfur soap or pure African black soap and moisturize with unrefined shea butter. So far so good.


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Posted 05 February 2010 - 01:01 AM

Are there any vitamins i should be taking to help reduce the redness?

Im using stuff and its helping a bit but could vitamins help anymore?

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 03:43 AM

I have actually had good success with znp bar

I was using it in the summer/towards the end

then my dad put it in the garbage when it got really small and i never got around to ordering again and then my seb derm flared really badly

so i recently ordered it again

it controlled it really well to me and its the only thing i can use for my hair that does not irritate it/and my face

i have used dandruff shampoos and they all irritate me and my face and all the time it seems,the morning after i would have bumps on my forehead,that t-gel coal tar shampoo was the WORSE!! my dandruff was way worse and it gave me bad acne

My plan is to just use the znp bar on my face/hair and a gentle shampoo like dove (head and shoulders made my scalp worse too)

I also find when my hair is shorter i have less dandruff,obvious reasons most likely

and for guys my hairdresser said to use clay for your hair and not gel ( or other products) because they give dandruff and clay will not,so thats something to think about and I recently bought a clay product for your hair.

znp bar seems to clear up my forehead really well too

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 11:40 AM

....well i went to the docs and is doesnt look like they have a sulfacetamide 10%, sulfer 5% face wash for prescription, or anything with the sulfur and sulfacetamide....in fact he looked clueless on what it was which is worrying.
I actually got him to look on google to beleive me, which he then agreed but couldnt find anything on prescription with it?? Anyway, he suggested metrogel to me instead (is that any good?), but said he would ring the derm and say what she feels is best.
So is this sulfacetamide 10% and sulfer 5% only in the US and not available in the uk?
Anyone from the uk on here who have used this however could you please tell me how to obtained it.
Thanks.

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 04:01 PM

I have a question for everyone. . .
Has your Seborrheic Dermatitis spread as the years have gone by?

In only a month after discontinueing the Cortisone (which made matters worse) my SD seems to have spread. I found a few small patches by my temple and on the chest area. I won't lie, I'm really quite worried about this and was wondering if anyone had any advice?

Has your SD ever gone away completely or settled down for a year? Does the severity of your problem change time to time?

Has anyone ever beat the problem by not worrying about it? Seeing how emotional moments cause the SD to flare up, does it not make sense that if one ignored the problem the body would heal better? Although I'm aware it would be difficult, especially with it being on the face. . .

Yours concerned. . .

Melanie

Edited by Winter Sage, 05 February 2010 - 04:02 PM.


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Posted 09 February 2010 - 01:48 PM

QUOTE (eterna_maldicion @ Jan 25 2010, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it is incredible but after years to prove different medecines, the perfect solution for my seborreica dermatitis was, to every day wash the face to me with shampoo that use for my hair. HEAD AND SHOULDERS SHAMPOO.



Great! how much time did you need for complete relief till the last rash was gone>
Head & Shoulders has many kinds. which do you use>
thanks!

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 01:53 PM

QUOTE (TheoAsa23 @ Feb 1 2010, 05:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Sd I've only been on the diet a couple of days so its far too soon to say....It's incredibly difficult though and anyone that says it is not is clearly not doing it right.



Hey TheoAsa23,

I think it is the only way to get out of this condition. I did sent all my labwork and all reports to a more specialists. One of them has got it specialism in the intestinal track.

I think I try the diet as well again. Can you tell me which supplements you are on>? Cause the last time I went on that diet my SD seemed to get more worse in time. Maybe we can exchange also some food receipts.. Did you have any thoughts of not losing weight>?

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 02:19 PM

@ Hi Ceci...
Long time no contact:) Anyways good to speak to you again..
Did you have the 100% result no rashes also without using the sheabutter sulphur powder mix afterwards? Cause I am trying now with the sulpur powder sheabutter too.. without I still got tiny rash..

@Hi Melanie!
Try the thing of the sulphur soap. The plan of CeCi. buy the sulpur soap with the sheabutter and sulpur powder for putting that afterwards on your face. You can find it back in the posts of Ceci which one it is. Thanks for telling that you have experience SD in combination with your monthly cycle.

About the hormonal track.. first read a lot get more info.. There are many items of yeast related things in correlation with the intestinal track.. straight or via the andrenal glands.

I do not know stopping the spreading. I think just washing will be the best way. And with drying keep the towel away from uneffected areas.. Change your pillow regular.. But maybe this is also hormonal related..

Edited by joellie, 09 February 2010 - 02:22 PM.


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Posted 09 February 2010 - 10:58 PM

QUOTE (joellie @ Feb 9 2010, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@ Hi Ceci...
Long time no contact:) Anyways good to speak to you again..
Did you have the 100% result no rashes also without using the sheabutter sulphur powder mix afterwards? Cause I am trying now with the sulpur powder sheabutter too.. without I still got tiny rash..

@Hi Melanie!
Try the thing of the sulphur soap. The plan of CeCi. buy the sulpur soap with the sheabutter and sulpur powder for putting that afterwards on your face. You can find it back in the posts of Ceci which one it is. Thanks for telling that you have experience SD in combination with your monthly cycle.

About the hormonal track.. first read a lot get more info.. There are many items of yeast related things in correlation with the intestinal track.. straight or via the andrenal glands.

I do not know stopping the spreading. I think just washing will be the best way. And with drying keep the towel away from uneffected areas.. Change your pillow regular.. But maybe this is also hormonal related..


Hi Joellie,

Good to speak to you again also. smile.gif
I'm still doing o.k. on my face and scalp. Now I have blepharitis (it's SD in my eye) which comes maybe twice a year. I've been working on that. It's been a pain in the eye. LOL I've been washing it with vinegar, tea tree oil and water and putting castor oil afterwards. It has calmed down considerably but still hasn't gone away. I also use aloe vera gel when it gets really itchy. Hopefully it calms down and goes away on its own.

I've also discovered that neem oil is good for SD. So, I've made my own shampoo with neem oil, tea tree oil and sulfur. I have about three different shampoos that I like to rotate so I don't get used to any of them or they will stop working. So far, so good.

How are you doing?



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Posted 10 February 2010 - 01:44 PM

Hi Ceci,

haha... We are still here:) like a comming home forum.. I am still not feeling the best in my life to be onnest! but I am working on it.! wow that's sound nasty in the eye.. I have everymorning when I wake up the greep balls in the corner in my eye..


Be carefull with the eyes. there is certainly something wrong with our body's we must find the culprit because our body is out of balance in the long run it will only hurt!

The best thing for my hair was and is selenium sulfide shampo mixed with a little ACV. than you don't have to switch all the time.. I tried all the oils you mentioned and they didn't work as I wanted. Or just using the H&S seborrheic dermatitis each day will not give problems as well. So my scalp is all the time ok.. but my face still isn't perfect.. I did try the sulfur soap for a long time 4 weeks.. and still got the tiny rashes than I did put the sheabutter on it but didn't had the sulfer powder for the mix.. The results were already good but now I try it again with the powder.. Did you have the 100% result no rashes also without using the sheabutter sulphur powder mix afterwards? Cause I am trying now with the sulpur powder sheabutter too.. without I still got tiny rash..

The sheabutter gives me at the end of the day a sweaty look! but it helps..


This question is only for the woman including you:)
When do you experience more sd in the monthly cycle>?

This question is for everyone!!!
Did you experience already for the SD started a lot of oil comming of your scalp and face..
Was it first only in the front part of the head and later the nose area or did the oil came on all parts in one time>?




Edited by joellie, 10 February 2010 - 01:46 PM.


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Posted 11 February 2010 - 11:34 AM

QUOTE (joellie @ Feb 10 2010, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Ceci,

haha... We are still here:) like a comming home forum.. I am still not feeling the best in my life to be onnest! but I am working on it.! wow that's sound nasty in the eye.. I have everymorning when I wake up the greep balls in the corner in my eye..


Be carefull with the eyes. there is certainly something wrong with our body's we must find the culprit because our body is out of balance in the long run it will only hurt!

The best thing for my hair was and is selenium sulfide shampo mixed with a little ACV. than you don't have to switch all the time.. I tried all the oils you mentioned and they didn't work as I wanted. Or just using the H&S seborrheic dermatitis each day will not give problems as well. So my scalp is all the time ok.. but my face still isn't perfect.. I did try the sulfur soap for a long time 4 weeks.. and still got the tiny rashes than I did put the sheabutter on it but didn't had the sulfer powder for the mix.. The results were already good but now I try it again with the powder.. Did you have the 100% result no rashes also without using the sheabutter sulphur powder mix afterwards? Cause I am trying now with the sulpur powder sheabutter too.. without I still got tiny rash..

The sheabutter gives me at the end of the day a sweaty look! but it helps..


This question is only for the woman including you:)
When do you experience more sd in the monthly cycle>?

This question is for everyone!!!
Did you experience already for the SD started a lot of oil comming of your scalp and face..
Was it first only in the front part of the head and later the nose area or did the oil came on all parts in one time>?


I believe my rash was gone before I started using the shea butter. My rash could have been from SLS or SLES which I avoid now. Make sure to spritz your face with water before using the shea butter. Also use a very small amount. I use smaller than a green pea sized for both face and neck. I rub it in my hands first and then pat it on face/neck.

I haven't experienced any SD except when I had a cold (flu-like symptoms). I guess my immune system was low and my face reacted with SD flare ups. And now the blepharitis. No SD during my monthly. And now usually no cysts either (I think I had maybe one cyst in the last 3-4 months).

Also you should check out makeupalley. There's quite a few people that have SD on there. They might have some more tips for you.

I did a little research and licorice root might help control sebum production. I also take borage oil (internally) as it's suppose to help with SD, skin and hair. I tried to use borage oil on my face and in my hair (I have softgel caps which I opened) but my family was disgusted by the smell and said I smelled like wet dog (and the smell lingers for days). LOL I also like fuller's earth clay (multani mitti) to help with oily skin.

I really don't remember any changes in my skin when I got SD (it has been over 20 years) but I always had an oily t-zone.

Edited by ceci2468, 11 February 2010 - 11:39 AM.


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Posted 15 February 2010 - 07:52 AM

Hi Ceci,

That's a interesting site you mentioned! Thank your!. I am going to have a look when I have time.. many things on it. and very precisely.
I used some supplements in the past as well for controlling sebum etc. But I am working out a diet now just trying like a lot of people who have SD. I want to get rid of it cause there are many things out of balance in my body. I got now also the results of the other test mentioned below.

Epstein-Barr NA IgG ------ ------ ------ ------ 159 - 0 - 20
Escherichia coli ------ ------ ------ 0.10 ------ μg 1.00 - 10.00
Enterococcus sp. ------ ------ ------ 0.01 ------ μg 1.00 - 10.00
Enterobacteriaceae groep 2 ------ ------ ------ 100 ------ - < 10
Bifidobacterium species ------ ------ ------ 0.01 ------ ng 1.00 - 100.00
Bacteriodes species ------ ------ ------ 0.01 ------ ng 1.00 - 100.00
Lactobacillus species ------ ------ ------ <0.01 ------ μg 0.10 - 10.00
beta-Defensin 2 ------ ------ ------ 69.8 ------ ng/ml 0.0 - 23.0
α-Aminoadipinezuur 125 ------ μmol/24u 9 - 51
1-Methylhistidine 1009 ------ μmol/24u 128 - 392
Glutaminezuurlactam 8.61 ------ mmol/mcr 20.00 - 115.00


But before using the sulphur soap, do you remember any differences in level during your monthly cycle? If you don't have rashes before why using the sheabutter and sulfur powder after washing?

Have a great day!


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 12:36 AM

QUOTE (joellie @ Feb 15 2010, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Ceci,

That's a interesting site you mentioned! Thank your!. I am going to have a look when I have time.. many things on it. and very precisely.
I used some supplements in the past as well for controlling sebum etc. But I am working out a diet now just trying like a lot of people who have SD. I want to get rid of it cause there are many things out of balance in my body. I got now also the results of the other test mentioned below.

Epstein-Barr NA IgG ------ ------ ------ ------ 159 - 0 - 20
Escherichia coli ------ ------ ------ 0.10 ------ μg 1.00 - 10.00
Enterococcus sp. ------ ------ ------ 0.01 ------ μg 1.00 - 10.00
Enterobacteriaceae groep 2 ------ ------ ------ 100 ------ - < 10
Bifidobacterium species ------ ------ ------ 0.01 ------ ng 1.00 - 100.00
Bacteriodes species ------ ------ ------ 0.01 ------ ng 1.00 - 100.00
Lactobacillus species ------ ------ ------ <0.01 ------ μg 0.10 - 10.00
beta-Defensin 2 ------ ------ ------ 69.8 ------ ng/ml 0.0 - 23.0
α-Aminoadipinezuur 125 ------ μmol/24u 9 - 51
1-Methylhistidine 1009 ------ μmol/24u 128 - 392
Glutaminezuurlactam 8.61 ------ mmol/mcr 20.00 - 115.00


But before using the sulphur soap, do you remember any differences in level during your monthly cycle? If you don't have rashes before why using the sheabutter and sulfur powder after washing?

Have a great day!


Hi,
I don't recall any correlations between my time of the month and SD. I use sulfur and shea butter to keep the symptoms (flakes and itching) of SD and acne from coming. smile.gif


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 12:37 AM

QUOTE (joellie @ Feb 15 2010, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Ceci,

That's a interesting site you mentioned! Thank your!. I am going to have a look when I have time.. many things on it. and very precisely.
I used some supplements in the past as well for controlling sebum etc. But I am working out a diet now just trying like a lot of people who have SD. I want to get rid of it cause there are many things out of balance in my body. I got now also the results of the other test mentioned below.

Epstein-Barr NA IgG ------ ------ ------ ------ 159 - 0 - 20
Escherichia coli ------ ------ ------ 0.10 ------ μg 1.00 - 10.00
Enterococcus sp. ------ ------ ------ 0.01 ------ μg 1.00 - 10.00
Enterobacteriaceae groep 2 ------ ------ ------ 100 ------ - < 10
Bifidobacterium species ------ ------ ------ 0.01 ------ ng 1.00 - 100.00
Bacteriodes species ------ ------ ------ 0.01 ------ ng 1.00 - 100.00
Lactobacillus species ------ ------ ------ <0.01 ------ μg 0.10 - 10.00
beta-Defensin 2 ------ ------ ------ 69.8 ------ ng/ml 0.0 - 23.0
α-Aminoadipinezuur 125 ------ μmol/24u 9 - 51
1-Methylhistidine 1009 ------ μmol/24u 128 - 392
Glutaminezuurlactam 8.61 ------ mmol/mcr 20.00 - 115.00


But before using the sulphur soap, do you remember any differences in level during your monthly cycle? If you don't have rashes before why using the sheabutter and sulfur powder after washing?

Have a great day!


Hi,
I don't recall any correlations between my time of the month and SD. I use sulfur and shea butter to keep the symptoms (flakes and itching) of SD from coming. smile.gif


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 01:33 AM

Does anyone know if their SD is flared by food? I was drinking a vitamin water today, and noticed 10 minutes later that I started getting SD blotches all over my face (my SD had pretty much been completely gone before).

Stomach felt really bad, as well. I figure I'm allergic to one of the ingredients in it. I'm gonna try to systematically go through and find which one it is.

Anyone know if there's a link between food allergies and SD?

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 02:34 PM

Does anyone know of any topicals aside from Nizoral and Lamisil that kills M.Globosa yeast ??

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 04:03 PM


Hi,
I don't recall any correlations between my time of the month and SD. I use sulfur and shea butter to keep the symptoms (flakes and itching) of SD from coming. smile.gif
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Hi... and the black african soap?? and sulfur powder on face>? eusa_think.gif





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