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[joellie]

I have now still a little rash after 2.5 week st joseph sulphur soap. but looks like it is a little less than last week... I wash it in the morning each day. so once in the 24 hours.. after I wash it I apply the shea butter same as Ceci and in the eavening I only wash it with warm water.

they said that it should take 3 weeks from the company of St joseph..

Edited by joellie, 09 November 2009 - 11:10 AM.

[Adri Chan]

Hi, for those who use sulfur do you think topical MSM could have the same effect?

I haven't tried topical MSM on my face but I mix powdered MSM in my self mixed shampoo and it's effective. I've recently ordered sublimed sulfur (which I should be getting next week) to see if that works better. If it does work, then I plan to mix some sulfur into my shea butter for face moisturizer.

Thanks for the information I didn't knew about sublimed sulfur, at what percentage do you plan to use it?

I received my sublimed sulfur. I'm so happy. I'm planning to mix a 10% for face moisturizer. Today I made my first sulfur mix. I made a 10% mix for my scalp. The only thing is, I think sublimed sulfur is oil soluble, so I'll have to figure out a way to make something for my face that doesn't entail using as much oil as my scalp (I don't want to walk around with a greasy face). I'll probably see if I can mix the sulfur in a very small amount of oil and then mix (whip) that into my shea butter. That should work. Before I try the face "experimental lotion," I plan to use the scalp "experimental lotion" to see if my scalp does well on it. I'd rather my scalp broke out than my face but I don't see why it will not work. Wishing myself luck.

I was afraid sublimed sulfur would be too harsh on my skin so i ordered MSM powder, I'll try to mix some in half water half acv and see how it goes.

I read MSM makes hair grow faster do you confirm?

[ceci2468]

I have now still a little rash after 2.5 week st joseph sulphur soap. but looks like it is a little less than last week... I wash it in the morning each day. so once in the 24 hours.. after I wash it I apply the shea butter same as Ceci and in the eavening I only wash it with warm water.

they said that it should take 3 weeks from the company of St joseph..

Hi Joellie,

Did you have the rash before you started using the sulfur soap? If it's less than last week, then hopefully maybe it's going away.

Ceci.

[ceci2468]

Hi, for those who use sulfur do you think topical MSM could have the same effect?

I haven't tried topical MSM on my face but I mix powdered MSM in my self mixed shampoo and it's effective. I've recently ordered sublimed sulfur (which I should be getting next week) to see if that works better. If it does work, then I plan to mix some sulfur into my shea butter for face moisturizer.

Thanks for the information I didn't knew about sublimed sulfur, at what percentage do you plan to use it?

I received my sublimed sulfur. I'm so happy. I'm planning to mix a 10% for face moisturizer. Today I made my first sulfur mix. I made a 10% mix for my scalp. The only thing is, I think sublimed sulfur is oil soluble, so I'll have to figure out a way to make something for my face that doesn't entail using as much oil as my scalp (I don't want to walk around with a greasy face). I'll probably see if I can mix the sulfur in a very small amount of oil and then mix (whip) that into my shea butter. That should work. Before I try the face "experimental lotion," I plan to use the scalp "experimental lotion" to see if my scalp does well on it. I'd rather my scalp broke out than my face but I don't see why it will not work. Wishing myself luck.

I was afraid sublimed sulfur would be too harsh on my skin so i ordered MSM powder, I'll try to mix some in half water half acv and see how it goes.

I read MSM makes hair grow faster do you confirm?

Actually sulfur is milder on the skin than BP or salicylic acid. I tried the MSM also but it didn't work as well.

For my face lotion, I mixed some of the sulfur in my unrefined shea butter. For my scalp, I mixed some in my shampoo. I make sure to let the shampoo sit on my scalp for at least 5 minutes and it works very well. I'm quite satisfied.

Guys, I've tried everything listed here and then some. Nothing gave me as much relief as 0.5% hydrocortisone cream. I apply it lightly once a day after a shower. Use H&S and/or Nizoral for hair.

0.5% cream is available in Canada over-the-counter. Generic brand will do.

I use a 2% hydrocortisone cream but maybe 3 times a month (for SD in my ears and nose). I try not to use it too often because it is a steroid and steroids thin out (or thicken, I forget which) the skin after time. Basically, it's not good for long term use.

[joellie]

I have now still a little rash after 2.5 week st joseph sulphur soap. but looks like it is a little less than last week... I wash it in the morning each day. so once in the 24 hours.. after I wash it I apply the shea butter same as Ceci and in the eavening I only wash it with warm water.

they said that it should take 3 weeks from the company of St joseph..

Hi Joellie,

Did you have the rash before you started using the sulfur soap? If it's less than last week, then hopefully maybe it's going away.

Ceci.

Hi Ceci,

I got almost till no rash before cause of another treatment.. but this treatment is very time consuming. that why I am trying the sulphur soap. The rash is defenitely less than last week.
This is my third week on the way.. sometimes I put the shea butter on as well. but it makes my skin looks shiny. I have not the idea that my skin feals dry.. but it certainly feels different.. less fine in structure if you feel with the finger. Is the reason why you apply the sulpur lotion into the shea butter because of your in nose area and ear area?? I keep you updated!
Do you know how quick in your situation the rash will come back at your face if you stop with the soap..?

[ceci2468]

I have now still a little rash after 2.5 week st joseph sulphur soap. but looks like it is a little less than last week... I wash it in the morning each day. so once in the 24 hours.. after I wash it I apply the shea butter same as Ceci and in the eavening I only wash it with warm water.

they said that it should take 3 weeks from the company of St joseph..

Hi Joellie,

Did you have the rash before you started using the sulfur soap? If it's less than last week, then hopefully maybe it's going away.

Ceci.

Hi Ceci,

I got almost till no rash before cause of another treatment.. but this treatment is very time consuming. that why I am trying the sulphur soap. The rash is defenitely less than last week.
This is my third week on the way.. sometimes I put the shea butter on as well. but it makes my skin looks shiny. I have not the idea that my skin feals dry.. but it certainly feels different.. less fine in structure if you feel with the finger. Is the reason why you apply the sulpur lotion into the shea butter because of your in nose area and ear area?? I keep you updated!
Do you know how quick in your situation the rash will come back at your face if you stop with the soap..?

Hi Joellie,

Yes, the shea butter can make you shiny. I only use a very small amount (smaller than a green pea sized) for face and neck. If you aren't feeling dry, then you probably do not need to moisturize though. I put the sulfur in the lotion to use all over my face and in ears, nose. Just an added precaution. I haven't tried stopping the use of sulfur because I don't want to deal with the onslaught of acne, itching, flakes and redness that can occur. I hyperpigment easily and my scars/marks do not go away for a long time, if at all. So, I will not stop using it.

[blah123]

Hello everyone,
I have never posted on one of these blogs before so here it goes. I have been suffering with SD on the face for over 2 years and it really annoyed me to the point where it affected my everyday life. Through countless hours of research online, I finally found a way to control my SD on the face. Every morning and night, I wash my face with Head and Shoulders Conditioner. This keeps the SD at bay and does turn my face red like the regular H&S shampoo does. I also will spot treat the dry areas with Neutrogena healthy skin face lotion (Alpha hydroxy). Hope this helps someone out there. I had tried 30-40 different medications (RX and OTC) before this and nothing worked this well. Give it a try and see what happens.

[joellie]

Hello Hello! Thank you Ceci for your help!
I give it two or 3 more weeks. If I am right like you do.. I have to order the sulphur lotion and mix it into the sheabutter... So after washing with the St joseph soap I have to put the sulphur lotion on which is mixed with the Shea butter.
Please tell me if this plan is not right.

bye



Hi Joellie,

Yes, the shea butter can make you shiny. I only use a very small amount (smaller than a green pea sized) for face and neck. If you aren't feeling dry, then you probably do not need to moisturize though. I put the sulfur in the lotion to use all over my face and in ears, nose. Just an added precaution. I haven't tried stopping the use of sulfur because I don't want to deal with the onslaught of acne, itching, flakes and redness that can occur. I hyperpigment easily and my scars/marks do not go away for a long time, if at all. So, I will not stop using it.
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[joellie]

Hello everyone,
I have never posted on one of these blogs before so here it goes. I have been suffering with SD on the face for over 2 years and it really annoyed me to the point where it affected my everyday life. Through countless hours of research online, I finally found a way to control my SD on the face. Every morning and night, I wash my face with Head and Shoulders Conditioner. This keeps the SD at bay and does turn my face red like the regular H&S shampoo does. I also will spot treat the dry areas with Neutrogena healthy skin face lotion (Alpha hydroxy). Hope this helps someone out there. I had tried 30-40 different medications (RX and OTC) before this and nothing worked this well. Give it a try and see what happens.

hey Blah,

I am trying at the moment the sulpnur soap of St Joseph. I did gave me a hugh relief. but on the other hand still not completely. still have tiny rash.. hardly to notice. But I will continue this treatment probably another 3 weeks to see if it will go full away.

If not I would like to prepare myself on the next step. I hope you are able to give the right links of the products you use. I have looked it up and saw that there are many different possiblities for the face for neutrogena and some different H&S conditioners.. I hope that I won't have to try them all. Most important. Can you tell me about the way you do control the situation...Is it like 100% rash free even the most tiny rash?

[blah123]

Yup..no rash... here are the product details.

Head and Shoulders Dry Scalp Care Dandruff Hair Conditioner (not the 2 in 1)
Neutrogena healthy skin face lotion spf 15 (with alpha hydroxy)

hope this helps.

Edited by blah123, 17 November 2009 - 09:50 AM.

[joellie]

Yup..no rash... here are the product details.

Head and Shoulders Dry Scalp Care Dandruff Hair Conditioner (not the 2 in 1)
Neutrogena healthy skin face lotion spf 15 (with alpha hydroxy)

hope this helps.

thanks mite!
how long for expexting result?
And how frequently for washing? Do you wash between also with other soap or just wather?

Just preparing in case off...

Edited by joellie, 17 November 2009 - 11:15 AM.

[blah123]

i saw results within 3 days. i just use water and no other soap. i wash once in the morning and once at night..

[ceci2468]

Hello everyone,
I have never posted on one of these blogs before so here it goes. I have been suffering with SD on the face for over 2 years and it really annoyed me to the point where it affected my everyday life. Through countless hours of research online, I finally found a way to control my SD on the face. Every morning and night, I wash my face with Head and Shoulders Conditioner. This keeps the SD at bay and does turn my face red like the regular H&S shampoo does. I also will spot treat the dry areas with Neutrogena healthy skin face lotion (Alpha hydroxy). Hope this helps someone out there. I had tried 30-40 different medications (RX and OTC) before this and nothing worked this well. Give it a try and see what happens.

Hi. It's probably the 1% pyrithione zinc in the H&S conditioner that's helping you. I was tempted to try ZNP bar which is 2% pyrithione zinc but then sulfur has been working for me.

[ceci2468]

Hi Joellie,

Yes, I just added pure sublimed sulfur to the shea butter. If you do do this, do not use more than 10% sulfur or you can get a chemical burn or irritation.

Yes, I apply this shea butter/sulfur after using the sulfur soap.

Ceci.

[joellie]

Hi Joellie,

Yes, I just added pure sublimed sulfur to the shea butter. If you do do this, do not use more than 10% sulfur or you can get a chemical burn or irritation.

Yes, I apply this shea butter/sulfur after using the sulfur soap.

Ceci.

thanks Ceci, did you use this immediately right from the start? Did you get this sulfur also at St Joseph?
ciao.
joel

[nycdguy]

I've had seb derm for a ten years. Stay away from steriods, unfortunate for me I didnt. Each year it got worse and covered more of my face. In the past year my face began to sting when I sweat. This never happened the first 9 years. It is now much more controlled.

I like sulfur or sulfur/salicylic based cleansers. I'd recommend Sebulex shampoo. I use the foam from shampooing on my face. I use to use a sulfur cleanser from philosophy that has been discontinued. I haven't tried sulfur masks. They maybe useful if used once a week.

Anti-fungal shampoos like nizoral, selsun blue, head&shoulders will loose the effectiveness over time. If you use them dilute them and rotate them. I found these too drying or irritating.

I haven't used coal tar like the guy from Ireland, his skin looks pretty good, I may try it.

In addition to any product for dandruff you can try products for cradle cap like Mustela Shampoo,
which has salicylic acid and Climbazole (which is and anti-fungal).

Avoid putting anything on your face containing oil or fatty acids this will increase malassezia.

[REB]

When do you see a definite cure for this disease coming around. Accutane helps acne, why cant there be such a thing for Sub derm?

Why do we have to keep it under control? Why cant we just get rid of it for good. Sigh..

Ive had this for 2 years and it is worse then anything i have ever endured.

[joellie]

Hello, finally I have the results from the Lab metametrix.. maybe someone like to know I did ship it from Holland to the us cause they seem to be the best lab in the world. It cost me a fortune but it's good to know.

I did only mark the things out of the tests which where out of range.


2100 Gastrointestinal Function Profile
intestinal bacterial.

Bacteroides sp. 1.3 L >= 1.3 referange range 1.6 so this is low
Clostridia sp. 1.3 L >= 1.0 6.2 referange range 1.5 this is low too
®

Helicobacter pylori 5.8E+005 H <=1.0E+005 I think I got this one in Asia so after SD

Beneficial SCFA
Propionate % 26 H 10 - 29 ® %

Yeast/Fungi
Yeast/Fungi; taxonomy unavailable. +3 [/color]=> 10000 pg DNA/g specimen Neg
A taxonomy unavailable finding may indicate ingested mold. The higher the number, the greater the
indication for treatment, particularly when accompanied by clinical symptoms.
Yeast/Fungi
Yeast overgrowth has been linked to many
chronic conditions, in part because of antigenic
responses in some patients to even low rates of
yeast growth. Potential symptoms include
diarrhea, headache, bloating, atopic dermatitis
and fatigue. Positives are reported as +1, +2,
+3 or +4 indicating >100, >1000, >10000 or
>100000 pg DNA/g.
Parasites
Parasite present; taxonomy unavailable. Positive Neg
A taxonomy unavailable finding likely indicates an ingested protozoan and not a human parasite. It
does not indicate treatment unless patient symptoms and other inflammatory markers are consistent
with parasite infection.
Parasites
Parasite infections are a major cause of
non-viral diarrhea. Symptoms may include
constipation, gas, bloating, increased allergy
response, colitis, nausea and distention






Porphyrins test

Copro I/Copro III 0.40 ® <= 0.50 0.35H
Repeated and Verified
Creatinine =374 mg/dL

The following comments pertain to abnormalities found on this report.
A high value for the Coproporphyrin I/III ratio indicates a more specific association with the toxic effects of arsenic.
Organix comprehensive profile test

Energy Production (Citric Acid Cycle)
(B comp., CoQ10, Amino acids, Mg)
Isocitrate 37L 39 - 143


Methylation Cofactor Markers
(B12, Folate)
Methylmalonate
2.2 H ® <= 2.3


Oxidative Damage and Antioxidant Markers
(Vitamin C and other antioxidants)
7.4 H[color="#8B0000"] ® <= 7.6 5.3



Summary of abnormal results:
Findings Intervention Options Common Metabolic Association
0091 Organix™ Comprehensive Profile Methodology: LC/Tandem Mass Spectroscopy, Colorimetric
Fatty Acid Metabolism
No Abnormality Found
Carbohydrate Metabolism
No Abnormality Found
Energy Production Markers
Isocitrate Very Low Free-form amino acids Amino Acid insufficiency
B-Complex Vitamin Markers
No Abnormality Found
Methylation Cofactor Markers
Methylmalonate High B12 Adenosylcobalamin insufficiency
Neurotransmitter Metabolism Markers
No Abnormality Found
Oxidative Damage and Antioxidant Markers
8-Hydroxy-2-deoxyguanosine High Vitamin C, Vitamin E DNA oxidation product
Detoxification Indicators
No Abnormality Found
Bacterial - General
No Abnormality Found
L. acidophilus / general bacteria
No Abnormality Found
Clostridial Species
No Abnormality Found
Yeast/Fungal
No Abnormality Found



As you can see in the first test they came with dna markers of yeast but they couldn't identify the yeast. So defenitely not candida! Please let me know how you think about these findings...

Edited by joellie, 03 December 2009 - 01:53 PM.

[dsrfgsertwe]

As you can see in the first test they came with dna markers of yeast but they couldn't identify the yeast. So defenitely not candida! Please let me know how you think about these findings...

i guess it means god just hates us
can't some dermatologists do biopsies of your skin to see if there's fungi on it? i'd like to look into that...

my face is gettin itchy again cuz i ran out of acv and i've been too lazy to pick some up =/ i think the sulfur soap and aloe vera gel is keeping it under control, though. but i'm so damn oily!

[REB]

Im seriously debating about make up at this point. This is just unbearable.

Why is this so hard to fight where we have to keep it under control, why cant we get it to go away like acne.