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[Sign]

How is that even relevant to this thread? Those needling pics were simply used to illustrate the widening of scars. This is ABOUT DenD359's progress with Dermastamp and not about needling. If you have some issue w/ me just PM me about it.

[Boet]

How is that even relevant to this thread? Those needling pics were simply used to illustrate the widening of scars. This is ABOUT DenD359's progress with Dermastamp and not about needling. If you have some issue w/ me just PM me about it.

Its all relavant. The question remains does Dermastamp actually work or is it another money spinner. Has it worked for you? if it has what type of results did you have. If you have not used it means you don't trust the product. Or are you just here for fun.

[DenD359]

Internet's been down for a week so I haven't had the chance to upload pics, infact I'm typing this on my phone.

I have read these comments a few days ago and being thst it's hard to come on here andto type this all on a phone doesn't seem worth it so I was hoping that it would cool down but because things are just heating up..

I just want to make things clear, I'm ok with comments like shin777 but when someone comes here and criticize about a product they have never used.. I either find that youre a prick or youre trying to start something.. This has been answered many times and the answer is yes, there has been some great improvements achieved. Has it died down a bit? Yeah i guess but nevertheless theres been improvement.

It's funny how you said I used the lighting to my advantage to make the scar appear less when I have been using the same lighting on my third treatment as my first. As a matter of fact, I actually try to bring out the worse of my scar because whats the point of doing this if youre not honest right?

So Boet, we get your message but until you own this kit or something.... I'll leave my word there. And im well aware that this kit may not work for every single person, i know for a fact that some people on this thread have had unwanted results and i was sorry to hear that even though im not the one making this kit. For the most part people will benefit from this.

[Boet]

Well I am glad you getting the results you want. Keep buying the product as you belive in it. When you have spent the equavelnet of having a surgical procedure to smooth out your face which would give you the result you really after then you will remeber what I said. Its funny how you the only one that has had results from this product on here..........................................

Edited by Boet, 02 October 2009 - 02:17 AM.

[DenD359]

Hey well I finally got my internet back about 2 days ago but I've been busy. I know I said I have pictures but tbh, there's not much difference so I'm going to save myself a little bit trouble.

I just started my 4th treatment last night and there's one thing I learn.. Don't waste your energy on anything prior to doing this treatment! I nearly gave up on the second phrase stamping just because I had such a good workout and I was tired as hell. (I could of slept in the bathroom) But I somehow got through stamping and the next morning my face was red like the first time. I knew this was coming because I gave it all I had but I felt like I have really worked it this time.

So I'm really curious if this 4th treatment will have any results similar to the 1st treatment, as I am typing this 15 hours after my treatment and my face still stinging all over the place like the first time. (It hurts when I frown or smile or anything really)

I know I haven't been giving much attention to this thread and it will only get worse coming to November but I will promise you 2 sets of pictures 3 weeks after this and another one 3 weeks after. School, sports, and work is keeping me busy..

and boet, read the whole thread first before saying what you just said. no comment from me..

[DenD359]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to share my 4th treatment experience with you guys since I found it to be out of the ordinary. First thing's first, I know I say that I I go really aggressive every treatment but this one was by FAR the most aggressive one that I put the limit to on stamping. So aggressive, the numbing cream didn't really help at all so this treatment felt like the 1st for sure.

When I was done, my face was extremely red like the first time as mentioned before and there was some else strange and frightening after 2 days.. First thing I noticed was how hard my face was.. I don't recall it being this swollen before and it seemed as if I got into a fight, I looked like the crypt's keeper for 1-2 days before my face soften up.

The second thing that had my worries was the white heads, very small white heads that appeared at some places where I stamped. I guess my skin couldn't take it so it decided to pop up a few zits. It wasn't very noticeable but if someone was up close in your face, you can definitely see it. So after 2 days, I applied some Proactiv and it just magically disappeared the next day. (Thank god)

That was the end of my hell and the light of heaven started to shine 5 days after. I don't know if this will stay for 2 more weeks when I take the photos but right now I definitely see improvements. Also, my skin is so ridiculously soft you wouldn't believe it's not baby skin! I doubt it will stay soft like this so I better enjoy what I have for now.

If the results doesn't show much improvements in 2 weeks when I take the pics, then I don't know what else to say but right now my hopes are definitely high.

[Honey Girl]

Hi Den

How much improvement would you say, percentagewise, you ahve gotten in your scarring, since first starting the dermastamping?

and how long have u been dermastamping?

have the needles ever bent yet?

thanks!

Honey

[DenD359]

Hi Den

How much improvement would you say, percentagewise, you ahve gotten in your scarring, since first starting the dermastamping?

and how long have u been dermastamping?

have the needles ever bent yet?

thanks!

Honey

I would have to say 45% improvement, maybe more with the upcoming pics. I believe I started stamping in May and up to today there's been a total of 4 treatments.

I don't think the needles can bend, only get dull or get pushed down, which hasn't happened to me but I replaced heads since I didn't take care of my last one.

[Honey Girl]

Thanks DenD!

Do you think that if I dermastamped LESS aggressive and say with a 1.0mm rather than 1.5mm, but more often, say once a week, that I would get similar results as if I AGGRESSIVELY rolled, but only once a month?????

I would much prefer the gentler, but more frequent approach, IF I could get similar results to an aggressive roll

Honey

[DenD359]

Thanks DenD!

Do you think that if I dermastamped LESS aggressive and say with a 1.0mm rather than 1.5mm, but more often, say once a week, that I would get similar results as if I AGGRESSIVELY rolled, but only once a month?????

I would much prefer the gentler, but more frequent approach, IF I could get similar results to an aggressive roll

Honey

Nope, you won't get the same results because 1.0mm isn't long enough to puncture below the dermis. It's either you go all out, or you don't. I don't mean to make it sound painful though, it's not if you don't go slowly and easy it'll be painful but you'll definitely be in the bathroom for a while which is ok. Also, you do get to numb your face so it won't be painful like you imagine.

EDIT: ACtually they said you can do that method but the results won't progress as fast as doing it the way they recommend. Also, I was wrong about the 1.0 mm not hitting the dermis, they said it does after all but I'm guessing it's not as effective to length wise when doing it with a 1.5 mm.

Edited by DenD359, 15 October 2009 - 07:06 PM.

[DenD359]

Pictures are in and I'm glad I didn't get over excited because it shows you what 3 weeks can result in.

http://dend359.tripod.com/leftface.html
http://dend359.tripod.com/leftsidecloser.html
http://dend359.tripod.com/rightface.html
http://dend359.tripod.com/rightfacecloser.html
http://dend359.tripod.com/frontface.html

Just a 10 days ago or so, my face was having such improvement and I was beginning to think that it would stay like that for good. I did tell you guys that I didn't think it would stay like that and in the end I was right. Now some bad news, my face is back to not being so soft () and of course my scar is almost the same as before.

Good news is I notice that my acne lining scars are almost gone.. In fact, the first thing I noticed is the one I used to have on my upper right temple is starting to disappear! I couldn't believe my eyes and you can actually see if you look closely at the photos.

So other than that, if I want to get rid of my ice picks, i will have to look more into individual needling, I'm almost certain that that will help out.

[shin777]

ahh.. bummer.. me too.. saidly that amazing result only lasts 2-3 weeks. after that it goes away. i am starting to think it's just swelling that makes scars look good for few weeks. i am almost same boat as you. it's been like 50 days since my 3rd treatment and my face returned to what it used to be.. there might have been improvement overall but still, i am sad when my best result goes away after few weeks. i suppose to do my 4th treatment last sunday but i had some other matter to attend so i couldn't afford to have red face for a whole week. i am doing my 4th treatment this sunday and hopefully i get good result from it.

btw, what do you think of needling so far? do you think we will be free of this darn scars after 10 treatment or so? it's a really long run and i am ready to try anything besides those money burning laser treatment which gave me no result but burnt face for months.

[DenD359]

ahh.. bummer.. me too.. saidly that amazing result only lasts 2-3 weeks. after that it goes away. i am starting to think it's just swelling that makes scars look good for few weeks. i am almost same boat as you. it's been like 50 days since my 3rd treatment and my face returned to what it used to be.. there might have been improvement overall but still, i am sad when my best result goes away after few weeks. i suppose to do my 4th treatment last sunday but i had some other matter to attend so i couldn't afford to have red face for a whole week. i am doing my 4th treatment this sunday and hopefully i get good result from it.

btw, what do you think of needling so far? do you think we will be free of this darn scars after 10 treatment or so? it's a really long run and i am ready to try anything besides those money burning laser treatment which gave me no result but burnt face for months.

eh tbh dude, if you have ice picks, I believe it will work but you need to use those "individual needling" because I have seen results from just doing this "regular" needling treatment on my scar that are... erm I don't know how to explain this but let me show you a picture of what I mean

look at the scars inside the circle here:
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l299/den.../SNC01070-1.jpg

and look at this one
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l299/dend359/SNC01414.jpg

I know the angle of the pictures is a bit off but you can take my word that I do not see the scars inside the circle anymore in real life. from the second picture, you don't see those scars as you do in the first one and while I'm happy about this (seriously) it doesn't really show improvements on my ice picks and creator scars.

Ideally, it seems like this/dermaroller is more suitable for these kind of scars by what I call "scar linings" and definitely leveling out your face but if you're looking to treat ice picks, etc, this or dermarolling isn't really effective.

I've seen your progress though, if we can both keep this up to or even after 10 treatments, I do believe our scars will slowly shrink but till then, the best way to treat them is individual needlings.

Edited by DenD359, 23 October 2009 - 07:30 PM.

[Minty Peas]

I just spent a while inspecting the photos side-by-side, but I can't judge improvement because although the photos are taken with the same light, his face is not at the same angle. The angle at which light hits a scar can make the scar look vastly different.

I think I do see some tightening of a couple scars near the top of his cheek, but otherwise it's too hard to tell. I don't see any of the new holes icaretohelp is talking about, though.

Photos are also notoriously poor at capturing scars accurately, so I don't doubt him when he says he has had improvement. And I really appreciate him bravely posting his photos up here for our benefit.

[DenD359]

Like I said before, I don't mind if you comment on the pics (whether it's a good or bad) but it ticks me off how someone can bash on a product that they have never tried I mean try the product first before saying negative things about it. Other than that, I have gotten some not so good comments on my photos before and I have been OK with it.

But to reply your comment, yeah I can tell this kit isn't helping out a lot of my ice/rolling scars but one thing I notice is how it levels out some part of the skin and rather than helping out small scars, it does a better job in repairing the larger sized area scars. If you can take a look below:

look at the scars inside the circle here:
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l299/den.../SNC01070-1.jpg

and look at this one
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l299/dend359/SNC01414.jpg

I know the angle is different.. but if you can take my word, I don't see the scars anymore when I look in the mirror and those are just a few to point out. I'll be honest too, the photos I just put up doesn't seem what I would of imagined it to be but hopefully in 3 weeks we'll see something else.

To Minty Peas, I try my best to inform you guys about this because I want everyone to benefit like you said, especially if it's their first time or those desperate like me to find a way to repair their scars

[scoobie_do]

I just spent a while inspecting the photos side-by-side, but I can't judge improvement because although the photos are taken with the same light, his face is not at the same angle. The angle at which light hits a scar can make the scar look vastly different.

I think I do see some tightening of a couple scars near the top of his cheek, but otherwise it's too hard to tell. I don't see any of the new holes icaretohelp is talking about, though.

Photos are also notoriously poor at capturing scars accurately, so I don't doubt him when he says he has had improvement. And I really appreciate him bravely posting his photos up here for our benefit.

Minty, was lookin at your gallery and you've really had some nice improvement.
Its a tough journey were all on and its nice to see nice results in what we're doing.
Boy those pics right after your treatment really look tough, I bet it was a hard week
or two just after, but awesome results.

[shin777]

to be perfectly honest with everyone, i think it's practically impossible to take exact same photo from same angle, same distance under same lightning unless it's done by professional. it's really hard to tell whether you had improvement or not cuz you look at yourself everyday on mirror so you can't tell the change yourself. and photos are not reliable because of the reasons i said above. sometimes they come out crazy good even with micro setting at close range and sometimes they come out real bad even from distance. only someone who doesn't see you often but knows exactly how your scars look like would be able to tell.

anyway, i don't doubt he had some improvement even though it's hard to tell by photos he's taken. also it's too soon to tell whether he had noticable improvement or not cuz it's only been
like 5 months or so since he started his treatment. well.. i am looking forward to see how much better his skin will look like in next 6 months or so.

btw, i did my 4th dermarolling treatment so i too will be uploading my pics in 3 weeks or so.
i sure hope i never have to roll my face again in 2011. good luck to everyone who's in this.

Edited by shin777, 26 October 2009 - 11:55 AM.

[Sign]

I really believe Den sees improvement. It's difficult to take an accurate shot of scars at an exact angle. Here's my 2 month progress so far (my first treatment was 8/20ish). sry, i changed to higher res for new photos

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[Sign]

sorry, couldnt fit both in last post
first 2 above pics are b4
the third one is the second pic's after
and this one is first pic's after
stupid attachment wont let me upload
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Edited by Sign, 26 October 2009 - 04:47 PM.