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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:26 AM

meat_pirate86 and Bacon_n'_Paranoia412, you guys are making me laugh, get along and good luck with the grammar gods they aren't friendly..

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 01:53 PM

QUOTE (kchicka @ Apr 3 2009, 04:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does anyone have a young child who is developing acne? My 9 year old son often breaks out with white heads only 1 or two at a time and has a few spots on his forehead close to his hair line. At first I thought this was strange because of his age. He started getting spots at about 8 1/2. I made an appointment for him to see the doctor and she said he didn't have acne and wasn't very helpful at all.


My cousin became a woman at 9 year old when she started getting her period.
Yes 8-9 is a bit extreme but 10-11 is already pretty common.
I know a guy who is growing facial air at 13.

I would focus on body fat and exercise.
What is his BMI? Can you guessestimate his body fat percentage?
What kind of physical activities he does during the week?
How many times a day he eats? How many grams of proteins a day he consumes?
How many hours of sleep he has per night? How many often he is outdoor and not at home during the week? Does he drink enough water?


QUOTE (rand0m @ Apr 3 2009, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if you dont want your son to go through what you and everyone else here went through, then please dont wash his face with anything except water.


I think he is old enough to wash his own face confused.gif

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 02:25 AM

Hi my son is of slim build and is out side every day. We live in a hot humid climate (Gold Coast Australia) which might contribute to his acne problem as he always has a sweat moustache?

He plays league and has training twice a week including a match on a Saturday. We have a purifying water filter so water is all he drinks. His lunches/snacks consist of two types of fruit, salad or tuna wrap on whole grain or 100% rye and whole grain crackers.

Dinner is usually fish or chicken with veges. We don't eat red meat. We don't have fizzy drinks. I have a gym @ my house so we all work out on a daily basis.

Maybe it might be the sunflower oil/ vegetable oil in the wraps or bread that he eats? It does state on the packets that the oils are organic but I guess bad oil is bad oil? Help pls biggrin.gif

In saying that today his skin is 95% clear only has a few small spots. This is pretty good he has only been drinking soy milk and taking a fish oil tablet daily for 2 weeks. eusa_clap.gif

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 02:48 AM

QUOTE (Bacon_n'_Paranoia412 @ Apr 4 2009, 06:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (meat_pirate86 @ Apr 3 2009, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Bacon_n'_Paranoia412 @ Apr 3 2009, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (meat_pirate86 @ Apr 3 2009, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for wasting my time


No problem amigo cool.gif Any time, any place - all you gotta do is call. wink.gif
And since you're here now, may I recommend getting the latest in thing at the moment, tis called a 'sense of humour'; you'll find them on the bottom shelf, third aisle on the left. And also rather conveniently, their located near the chill pills.


That video is in no way funny. I am not your amigo.
PS...I think you mean they're as in they are located next to the chill pills.


Aww, don't be like that meaty, was only meant in jest. let's kiss and make up... err, no homo eusa_shifty.gif
As for my mistake in my last post, I can only apologise un-reservedly. Mastering the complexities of the English language was never my strong point - Miss Cross, my old English teacher would happily attest to that. Tell you what though; I'll go out stark naked tonight, light myself a big fire and sacrifice 100 goats to the no doubt angry grammar gods. Happy?


LOL biggrin.gif


LOL biggrin.gif
QUOTE (Bacon_n'_Paranoia412 @ Apr 4 2009, 06:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (meat_pirate86 @ Apr 3 2009, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Bacon_n'_Paranoia412 @ Apr 3 2009, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (meat_pirate86 @ Apr 3 2009, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for wasting my time


No problem amigo cool.gif Any time, any place - all you gotta do is call. wink.gif
And since you're here now, may I recommend getting the latest in thing at the moment, tis called a 'sense of humour'; you'll find them on the bottom shelf, third aisle on the left. And also rather conveniently, their located near the chill pills.


That video is in no way funny. I am not your amigo.
PS...I think you mean they're as in they are located next to the chill pills.


Aww, don't be like that meaty, was only meant in jest. let's kiss and make up... err, no homo eusa_shifty.gif
As for my mistake in my last post, I can only apologise un-reservedly. Mastering the complexities of the English language was never my strong point - Miss Cross, my old English teacher would happily attest to that. Tell you what though; I'll go out stark naked tonight, light myself a big fire and sacrifice 100 goats to the no doubt angry grammar gods. Happy?



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Posted 05 April 2009 - 02:55 AM

What did the doc say it was if it wasn't acne?

PS: cats eat broccoli. And green beans. And Doritos Nacho Cheese Chips. And taco bell. They watch my every move if I'm eating Taco Bell stuff (particularly Nachos Bell Grande) as they know they get the leftovers. So once every six months or so they get Taco Bell.

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 04:13 AM

Wait, doesn't soy cause a change in men's estrogen levels? Would that not make soy milk a poor substitute, seeing as he is in the first steps of puberty?

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 07:19 AM

QUOTE (speaktwice @ Apr 5 2009, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wait, doesn't soy cause a change in men's estrogen levels? Would that not make soy milk a poor substitute, seeing as he is in the first steps of puberty?


No it doesn't. You would need an awful lot of concentrated isoflavones to have even a mild effect on estrogen. Studies on growing boys on soy showed no sign of hormonal influence.

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 08:16 AM

QUOTE (Wynne @ Apr 5 2009, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What did the doc say it was if it wasn't acne?

PS: cats eat broccoli. And green beans. And Doritos Nacho Cheese Chips. And taco bell. They watch my every move if I'm eating Taco Bell stuff (particularly Nachos Bell Grande) as they know they get the leftovers. So once every six months or so they get Taco Bell.


No cat I ever had. They'd turn up their noses. Besides, they can hardly figure out how to eat anything that isn't in tiny pieces they can lap up with their tongue, as in cat food. I did once have a cat that wasn't put off in the slightest by the artificiality of processed cheese and cool whip. Still tasted like dairy to her I guess.

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 02:32 PM

facial hair at 13?

Sigh, I got facial hair when I was 21. Maybe that's why I got acne at around that age too. tongue.gif


QUOTE (Danny© @ Apr 4 2009, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (kchicka @ Apr 3 2009, 04:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does anyone have a young child who is developing acne? My 9 year old son often breaks out with white heads only 1 or two at a time and has a few spots on his forehead close to his hair line. At first I thought this was strange because of his age. He started getting spots at about 8 1/2. I made an appointment for him to see the doctor and she said he didn't have acne and wasn't very helpful at all.


My cousin became a woman at 9 year old when she started getting her period.
Yes 8-9 is a bit extreme but 10-11 is already pretty common.
I know a guy who is growing facial air at 13.

I would focus on body fat and exercise.
What is his BMI? Can you guessestimate his body fat percentage?
What kind of physical activities he does during the week?
How many times a day he eats? How many grams of proteins a day he consumes?
How many hours of sleep he has per night? How many often he is outdoor and not at home during the week? Does he drink enough water?


QUOTE (rand0m @ Apr 3 2009, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if you dont want your son to go through what you and everyone else here went through, then please dont wash his face with anything except water.


I think he is old enough to wash his own face confused.gif



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Posted 05 April 2009 - 08:52 PM

QUOTE (Wynne @ Apr 5 2009, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What did the doc say it was if it wasn't acne?

PS: cats eat broccoli. And green beans. And Doritos Nacho Cheese Chips. And taco bell. They watch my every move if I'm eating Taco Bell stuff (particularly Nachos Bell Grande) as they know they get the leftovers. So once every six months or so they get Taco Bell.


The doc didn't say what it was, she just said it wasn't acne (totally useless she didn't really care). But having had acne myself it sure does look like it.

QUOTE (speaktwice @ Apr 5 2009, 08:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wait, doesn't soy cause a change in men's estrogen levels? Would that not make soy milk a poor substitute, seeing as he is in the first steps of puberty?


Yikes r u sure?? confused.gif I did try rice milk but he didn't like it. I'll have to read more about soy products and estrogen levels in males.


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Posted 05 April 2009 - 08:55 PM

QUOTE (kchicka @ Apr 5 2009, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Wynne @ Apr 5 2009, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What did the doc say it was if it wasn't acne?

PS: cats eat broccoli. And green beans. And Doritos Nacho Cheese Chips. And taco bell. They watch my every move if I'm eating Taco Bell stuff (particularly Nachos Bell Grande) as they know they get the leftovers. So once every six months or so they get Taco Bell.


The doc didn't say what it was, she just said it wasn't acne (totally useless she didn't really care). But having had acne myself it sure does look like it.

That's a shame she wasn't more informative. Did she give any treatment ideas? Like special shampoos (Nizoral, etc) as that could mean she thought it was folliculitis.

QUOTE (kchicka @ Apr 5 2009, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (speaktwice @ Apr 5 2009, 08:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wait, doesn't soy cause a change in men's estrogen levels? Would that not make soy milk a poor substitute, seeing as he is in the first steps of puberty?


Yikes r u sure?? confused.gif I did try rice milk but he didn't like it. I'll have to read more about soy products and estrogen levels in males.

Check out the posts above that indicate that soy milk and so forth aren't such a huge problem. I haven't much knowledge about soy and hormones so can't chime in here.

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 09:00 PM

dont change the diet drastically...wut u did like swapping milks is ok....but dont do like fruits and vegs only.....thats so dangerous to do at such an age....to stretch that forever.

and plus its like found that food doenst affect acne in any way....accpet sea food.

its better to just deal with it by going straight to Tane. (prolly not until hes like at least 12 tho). Cuz i gaurentee ull go through 100 of products and pills until u realize Accutane is the only thing that works.

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 09:02 PM

QUOTE (john1234 @ Apr 5 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
facial hair at 13?

Sigh, I got facial hair when I was 21. Maybe that's why I got acne at around that age too. tongue.gif


Acne is strictly related to hair growing folliculus, where you don't grow hair you don't get acne.
Keep in mind that young children and women have hair on the zones they get acne as well.
Young children have hair in their mustache area, cheeks, arms, legs only they tend to be soft and light. That being said many young children tend to have real hair on their arms and legs rather than peach fuzz. But hair growth definitely affects acne and sebaceous ducts condition.

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 02:11 AM

One of my cats loves cucumber and goes into a fit if it dosnt get it. They also eat grass. All 3 out of 4 of mine eat grass yet this one that eat cucumber also eats other fruit like kiwi and apple! But nothing cooked. Its either the alkaline settles there stomach or they extra fiber from grass that drives them. That said every out door cat I have had has eaten grass! What is odd is one indoor cat eats fake plants and maybe this is some sort of evolution in cats to balance their diet which tends to be acidic. My opinion any how...most wild animals will die if they switched to a cooked diet. Im not bashing cooked food here because its needed for killing parasites in meat and unlocking nutrition in some vegtables. It also damages food and renders it unusable by the body if over cooked and can be seen as a invader to the body in cases.

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 05:54 PM

QUOTE (kchicka @ Apr 5 2009, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (speaktwice @ Apr 5 2009, 08:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wait, doesn't soy cause a change in men's estrogen levels? Would that not make soy milk a poor substitute, seeing as he is in the first steps of puberty?


Yikes r u sure?? confused.gif I did try rice milk but he didn't like it. I'll have to read more about soy products and estrogen levels in males.


I am not sure, I remember hearing it but I do not know any specifics, it was in the back of my head. Though I'm sure it's safe to be skeptical about anything that's supposed to replace something else and look it up.

Edit: I've looked around, and can't find a strait answer. Everything concerning it seems to be bias, soy milk websites flamboyantly waving studies showing it's fine for you, as well as the other side saying it is absolutely not safe for men to consume. Hard to get a clear idea of whether or not it should be consumed by males. Seems fine for females though.

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 02:28 AM

I prefer almond milk. Just make sure that he gets adequate calcium in his diet from other sources.

Does he have oily hair? I and both my kids have ridiculously oily hair and break out at the hairline if we don't shampoo every day with a certain product (Biolage Normalising shampoo). The reason that it's so good for us is that while it's pretty detergent, it doesn't over-dry our hair.

One more observation - while 9 yo boys are quite capable of washing their own faces, sometimes their technique is lacking. Maybe he's not getting right up into the hair line. Both my kids had this problem until I made them wash their face in the mirror a couple of times. Then the lightbulb went off...aha...




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