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No..it was not Maya's....it was somebody else. lots of close-ups with arrows pointing to treated areas.
Also- sorry if this has been asked...where can I get EGF? Is this available OTC?
Also what's the % on TCA complex? I assume less than 10%?
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 09:03 AM
QUOTE(ObiWontonKenoli @ Jun 14 2004, 11:26 AM)
No..it was not Maya's....it was somebody else. lots of close-ups with arrows pointing to treated areas.
Also- sorry if this has been asked...where can I get EGF? Is this available OTC?
Also what's the % on TCA complex? I assume less than 10%?
Also- sorry if this has been asked...where can I get EGF? Is this available OTC?
Also what's the % on TCA complex? I assume less than 10%?
It's somewhere between 6% and 8%.
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 11:01 AM
QUOTE(Robert @ Jun 15 2004, 08:50 AM)
QUOTE(ObiWontonKenoli @ Jun 14 2004, 11:26 AM)
No..it was not Maya's....it was somebody else. lots of close-ups with arrows pointing to treated areas.
Also- sorry if this has been asked...where can I get EGF? Is this available OTC?
Also what's the % on TCA complex? I assume less than 10%?
Also- sorry if this has been asked...where can I get EGF? Is this available OTC?
Also what's the % on TCA complex? I assume less than 10%?
It's somewhere between 6% and 8%.
thanks Robert.
How about that EGF everyone? I'm curious to try this
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 11:26 AM
Obi,
check out this thread......
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...23735&hl=revive
Scorpion Vixen gives links to a few of the creams that contain EGF.
check out this thread......
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...23735&hl=revive
Scorpion Vixen gives links to a few of the creams that contain EGF.
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 11:30 AM
QUOTE(smilingeyes @ Jun 15 2004, 11:13 AM)
Obi,
check out this thread......
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...23735&hl=revive
Scorpion Vixen gives links to a few of the creams that contain EGF.
check out this thread......
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...23735&hl=revive
Scorpion Vixen gives links to a few of the creams that contain EGF.
Thanks Nance :dance:
Edit: *GULP* 80 bux!!!??? :ph34r:
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 11:36 AM
She also says:
I bought a jar of colostrum powder for ten dollars off of vitaminlife.com. I mix a little powder with water and spread it all over my face to wear as a mask. It cannot be worn under makeup, because it will make your face feel tight, yet it is extremely soothing and adds great healing enhancement to my regimen. It also heals up cat bites and scratches in no time.
I would fully recommend this if you can deal with the texture.
It seems to be good for acne as well.
I bought a jar of colostrum powder for ten dollars off of vitaminlife.com. I mix a little powder with water and spread it all over my face to wear as a mask. It cannot be worn under makeup, because it will make your face feel tight, yet it is extremely soothing and adds great healing enhancement to my regimen. It also heals up cat bites and scratches in no time.
I would fully recommend this if you can deal with the texture.
It seems to be good for acne as well.
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 12:25 PM
Nancy... are you rolling your eyes at MEEEEE???????? 
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 12:35 PM
*mmwrraaar*
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So I take it I can't just ankle my way into a Walgreen and get this EGF OTC then....
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So I take it I can't just ankle my way into a Walgreen and get this EGF OTC then....
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 12:58 PM
from:
http://www.bovinecolostrum.com/info/composition.htm
What's in Bovine Colostrum ?
IMMUNE FACTORS:
Medical and clinical studies show immune factors in colostrum fight Viruses, Bacteria, Yeast, Fungus, Allergens and Toxins.
IMMUNOGLOBULINS:
Have been shown to provide a superior defense in both treatment and prevention of viral infections, bacterial infections, allergies, fungus and yeast. High quality Colostrum must be certified to contain a minimum of 18% immunoglobulins.
ANTIBODIES:
Colostrum has been shown to contain specific antibodies to more than 19 specific disease-causing pathogens including; E. coli, salmonella, candida, streptococcus, staphylococcus, h. pylori, cryptosporidium and rotavirus.
PRP (Proline-rich Polypeptide):
Shown to help regulate the thymus gland (bodies’ central command for the immune system). PRP can both stimulate a weakened immune system and/or balance an overactive immune system, as in the case of many autoimmune diseases.
LACTOFERRIN:
An iron-binding protein with antiviral, antibacterial, anti-inflammatory properties. Lactoferrin has been implicated in the treatment of such diseases as cancer, HIV, herpes, chronic fatigue, candida albicans and other infections.
GLYCOPROTEINS: (protease and trypsin inhibitors)
Protect the immune and growth factors in colostrum from destruction by the digestive juices in the stomach and intestinal tract.
LACTALBUMINS:
Research indicates tremendous possibilities that Lactalbumins can be highly effective against numerous forms of cancer and viruses. Lactalbumin has also been shown in vulnerable subjects to raise brain serotonin activity, reduce cortisol concentration, and improve mood under stress.
CYTOKINE’S: INTERLUKIN 1 & 6, INTERFERON Y AND LYMPHOKINES:
Chemicals that are involved in cell-to-cell communication, antiviral and anti-tumor activity and regulation and intensity of immune responses. Cytokines help increase T-cell activity and stimulate production of immunoglobulins. One cytokine, interleukin-10, is a potent anti-inflammatory agent that has been shown to have a profound effect on pain relief. Interleukins have shown particular promise in fighting cancer.
LYSOZYMES:
Helps protect the body from bacterial infections. Lysozyme has actually been shown to destroy bacteria on contact. May be an effective topical antibiotic.
GROWTH FACTORS:
Medical studies have shown that the vital growth factors from bovine colostrum are practically identical to human colostrum in composition. Furthermore, it has been shown that growth factors stimulate normal growth, as well as help regenerate and accelerate the repair of aged or injured muscle, skin collagen, bone, cartilage and nerve tissues. Growth factors also stimulate the body to burn fat for fuel instead of the body's own muscle tissue in times of fasting (diet) and build lean muscle. In addition, growth factors can be used as an effective topical application for burns, injuries and skin rejuvenation.
Epithelial Growth Factor (EGF):
EGF is instrumental in protecting and maintaining the skin. Along with the other growth factors in colostrum, EGF can stimulate normal skin growth and repair cellular tissue.
Insulin-like Growth Factor I and II: (IGF-I & IGF-II)
IGF I & II are the most abundant growth factors in colostrum. They affect how the body uses fat, protein and sugar. IGF-I is one of the only substances known to stimulate the repair and growth of DNA and RNA, making it one of the most powerful anti-aging substances. IGF-I has been clinically proven to help increase lean muscle mass and may help regulate blood sugar and cholesterol levels.
Transforming Growth Factors A & B: (TGF A & B)
TGF stimulates the proliferation of cells in connective tissue and assists in the formation of bone and cartilage. It is also showing promise as a therapeutic agent in bone and wound healing. TGF can help repair tissue and may support the development of growth of the lining of the gut.
Platelet-Derived Growth Factor: (PDGF)
PDGF has been shown to help with cell division in connective tissue, smooth muscle, and fibroblasts. It may also assist in neuron survival and regeneration.
VITAMINS AND MINERALS:
Colostrum is not a supplement... it is the whole food for the newborn... its combination of vitamins and minerals are naturally occurring and in perfect combination.
http://www.bovinecolostrum.com/info/composition.htm
What's in Bovine Colostrum ?
IMMUNE FACTORS:
Medical and clinical studies show immune factors in colostrum fight Viruses, Bacteria, Yeast, Fungus, Allergens and Toxins.
IMMUNOGLOBULINS:
Have been shown to provide a superior defense in both treatment and prevention of viral infections, bacterial infections, allergies, fungus and yeast. High quality Colostrum must be certified to contain a minimum of 18% immunoglobulins.
ANTIBODIES:
Colostrum has been shown to contain specific antibodies to more than 19 specific disease-causing pathogens including; E. coli, salmonella, candida, streptococcus, staphylococcus, h. pylori, cryptosporidium and rotavirus.
PRP (Proline-rich Polypeptide):
Shown to help regulate the thymus gland (bodies’ central command for the immune system). PRP can both stimulate a weakened immune system and/or balance an overactive immune system, as in the case of many autoimmune diseases.
LACTOFERRIN:
An iron-binding protein with antiviral, antibacterial, anti-inflammatory properties. Lactoferrin has been implicated in the treatment of such diseases as cancer, HIV, herpes, chronic fatigue, candida albicans and other infections.
GLYCOPROTEINS: (protease and trypsin inhibitors)
Protect the immune and growth factors in colostrum from destruction by the digestive juices in the stomach and intestinal tract.
LACTALBUMINS:
Research indicates tremendous possibilities that Lactalbumins can be highly effective against numerous forms of cancer and viruses. Lactalbumin has also been shown in vulnerable subjects to raise brain serotonin activity, reduce cortisol concentration, and improve mood under stress.
CYTOKINE’S: INTERLUKIN 1 & 6, INTERFERON Y AND LYMPHOKINES:
Chemicals that are involved in cell-to-cell communication, antiviral and anti-tumor activity and regulation and intensity of immune responses. Cytokines help increase T-cell activity and stimulate production of immunoglobulins. One cytokine, interleukin-10, is a potent anti-inflammatory agent that has been shown to have a profound effect on pain relief. Interleukins have shown particular promise in fighting cancer.
LYSOZYMES:
Helps protect the body from bacterial infections. Lysozyme has actually been shown to destroy bacteria on contact. May be an effective topical antibiotic.
GROWTH FACTORS:
Medical studies have shown that the vital growth factors from bovine colostrum are practically identical to human colostrum in composition. Furthermore, it has been shown that growth factors stimulate normal growth, as well as help regenerate and accelerate the repair of aged or injured muscle, skin collagen, bone, cartilage and nerve tissues. Growth factors also stimulate the body to burn fat for fuel instead of the body's own muscle tissue in times of fasting (diet) and build lean muscle. In addition, growth factors can be used as an effective topical application for burns, injuries and skin rejuvenation.
Epithelial Growth Factor (EGF):
EGF is instrumental in protecting and maintaining the skin. Along with the other growth factors in colostrum, EGF can stimulate normal skin growth and repair cellular tissue.
Insulin-like Growth Factor I and II: (IGF-I & IGF-II)
IGF I & II are the most abundant growth factors in colostrum. They affect how the body uses fat, protein and sugar. IGF-I is one of the only substances known to stimulate the repair and growth of DNA and RNA, making it one of the most powerful anti-aging substances. IGF-I has been clinically proven to help increase lean muscle mass and may help regulate blood sugar and cholesterol levels.
Transforming Growth Factors A & B: (TGF A & B)
TGF stimulates the proliferation of cells in connective tissue and assists in the formation of bone and cartilage. It is also showing promise as a therapeutic agent in bone and wound healing. TGF can help repair tissue and may support the development of growth of the lining of the gut.
Platelet-Derived Growth Factor: (PDGF)
PDGF has been shown to help with cell division in connective tissue, smooth muscle, and fibroblasts. It may also assist in neuron survival and regeneration.
VITAMINS AND MINERALS:
Colostrum is not a supplement... it is the whole food for the newborn... its combination of vitamins and minerals are naturally occurring and in perfect combination.
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 05:39 PM
QUOTE(Scorpion_Vixen @ Jun 15 2004, 12:12 PM)
Nancy... are you rolling your eyes at MEEEEE????????
Of course not, that was for Obi, lol. I was pointing out to him that you had found it at a way more reasonable price.....although I think he stopped reading at the $80 price tag.
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 05:41 PM
Scorpion_Vixen, you always find the good stuff at GREAT prices! All that research and you share it so freely.........we luv you! :dance:
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 07:07 PM
QUOTE(smilingeyes @ Jun 15 2004, 05:26 PM)
QUOTE(Scorpion_Vixen @ Jun 15 2004, 12:12 PM)
Nancy... are you rolling your eyes at MEEEEE????????
Of course not, that was for Obi, lol. I was pointing out to him that you had found it at a way more reasonable price.....although I think he stopped reading at the $80 price tag.
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 08:33 PM
QUOTE(smilingeyes @ Jun 15 2004, 05:28 PM)
Scorpion_Vixen, you always find the good stuff at GREAT prices! All that research and you share it so freely.........we luv you! :dance:
2nd this BIG time!
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Posted 16 June 2004 - 02:53 AM
Nancy and Tamara...
Thank you so much for the compliment!! It means a lot to me that my contribution here is appreciated. The two of you have been awesome.
Luv ya back,
Scorpion
Thank you so much for the compliment!! It means a lot to me that my contribution here is appreciated. The two of you have been awesome.
Luv ya back,
Scorpion
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Posted 16 June 2004 - 03:32 AM
wats TCA?
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Posted 16 June 2004 - 11:28 AM
Obi you aren't joining in the love fest here...... :o Don't tell me you are getting too worn out from those other 14 women you have to love a day?
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Posted 16 June 2004 - 11:54 AM
Dancing butter is a woman? Oh..in that case....welcome!! :lol:
The other 13 was ok...but you were the one that sucked my......energy the most... :shifty: :eek:
OK...back to TCA (in answering dancing butter's question...it's a type of acid used to treat mostly ice pick type scars, but also reported to work on other types...please see the FAQ area for more info)
The other 13 was ok...but you were the one that sucked my......energy the most... :shifty: :eek:
OK...back to TCA (in answering dancing butter's question...it's a type of acid used to treat mostly ice pick type scars, but also reported to work on other types...please see the FAQ area for more info)
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Posted 16 June 2004 - 05:49 PM
I just wanted to say I started working on my fourth CROSS today. When I finish, I will be applying colostrum every day. I am also taking orally: colostrum, Emergen-C w/ MSM (vitamin C and MSM), zinc, bromelain, vitamin E, alpha lipoic acid, DMAE, and glucosamine (with a small percentage of hyaluronic acid).
I am not sure what thread I will post my results on, probably the CROSS thread.
This is only my second CROSS using 100% TCA (the other two I used 50%) and I have high hopes about it.
I am not sure what thread I will post my results on, probably the CROSS thread.
This is only my second CROSS using 100% TCA (the other two I used 50%) and I have high hopes about it.
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Posted 17 June 2004 - 07:44 AM
I hope noone would realy think I would put 100% tca on my whole face. No I definately meant I would follow the procedure with a toothpick and dab it in my ice picked scars. I have a few on the apple of my cheeks and some in the middle of the eyebrows. I have read the posts in the other forum on the 100% tca. This is what I gather: You dip the toothpick into the formula and get it nice and soaked then you press it INTO the scar only, without gettingit on the rim of the scar and it forms a white film which will turn into a really dark scab and eventually letting it fall off which takes 7 days, right? I mean is it kind of like having an acne scab? because my pimple scabs only form for no more than 5 days before they fall off bu this sounds much heavier in scabs. Does anyone happen to have a picture of the scabs being formed from 100% tca? I have the stuff but am patiently waiting to use it so I can master the steps. I would rather do it myself than have someone else accidently scar my face with acid. It just sounds too scary. Oh another thing, I got a powder mix with my tca package.. does anyine know what that is for?
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