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[Dazarooni]

Bumping it up.

[Got2BStrong14]

I have done TCA cross twice with "Maillie"'s 50%. I really can't tell if I see improvements... in some lights I think generally complexion is better but in overhead lighting it looks the same or even worse, but that could be because some of the icepicks are still red inside. I don't know if I should do it again. I don't think its possible to get a slivvered toothpick inside my icepicks without touching the edges. However my complexion and skin tone are very similar to Reilley's. I just bought a jessner peel which I am going to try next week...

[dudester]

What are HA supplements? What brand do you take? How long and often?

[holelyface]

I have done TCA cross twice with "Maillie"'s 50%. I really can't tell if I see improvements... in some lights I think generally complexion is better but in overhead lighting it looks the same or even worse, but that could be because some of the icepicks are still red inside. I don't know if I should do it again. I don't think its possible to get a slivvered toothpick inside my icepicks without touching the edges. However my complexion and skin tone are very similar to Reilley's. I just bought a jessner peel which I am going to try next week...

Hi guys I understand you may find some questions about those TCA bought on E-bay... Anyway I bought one from Maillie 100% TCA before... I tested with a Universal PH Test strip. It turn out to be at least ph 1 and below.. So therefore I can't warrant that the product content is real esthician used but I would say it's likely at least the Test shows it is acidic enough to be authentic.

[holelyface]

Like to ask please how long does the redness or scab last after the cross? Ten days?

[Xemina]

Everyone is different. 8 days to two week I believe is normal. However some people remain red for up to eight weeks. Everyone is different!

[casper8o8]

Hi my name is tyson and im 20 years old i dont really know what kind of scars i have can anyone tell me i very much appreciate it i think its rolling but not sure

[casper8o8]

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[casper8o8]

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[casper8o8]

im thinking of getting the cross method kit from ebay which is like 69 dollars but dont know if i should cause i'm not sure if its real hard to do this on yourself does anyone know

[Hopesprings]

im thinking of getting the cross method kit from ebay which is like 69 dollars but dont know if i should cause i'm not sure if its real hard to do this on yourself does anyone know

Casper, you have very light scarring. You also seem young. In my view you should leave them alone and they will improve or entirely disappear on their own. Your scarring seems so light it's not worth the risk.

If you really want to try something, try copper peptides from skinbio. Give it a year and see what happens. It's cheap and riskless.
Don't push your luck.

Just my two cents.

[peter4griffin]

im thinking of getting the cross method kit from ebay which is like 69 dollars but dont know if i should cause i'm not sure if its real hard to do this on yourself does anyone know

I wouldn't recommend getting a TCA kit from ebay. I ordered one from ebay and had bad results. TCA peels are very risky, so if you decide to do one, have patience and do a test spot. Wait a few weeks to see the outcome. Peels will thin your skin too, so be careful what you do after. I wouldn't try any harsh scrubbing. I would take the advice of the post before mine and try something less risky. Exercise regularly, eat a healthy diet, investigate some supplements, and enjoy life. This is my advice and is much better than having to take a week of downtime for a peel, and possibly longer downtime if the TCA peel goes bad.

[EVM]

No one here should start using %100 TCA. You people are borderline insane! Try using a very low concentration first and see what happens. For the love of god people, you will damage yourself even worse.

Like some people have stated, do some glycolic peels along with the use of copper peptides and see if that helps. There is no real cure for acne scarring except for learning how to live/deal with it, I do every day.

This is a very honest opinion of what could happen to you if you try TCA %100. I would NEVER even let a doctor put %100 on my face.

TRICHLOROACETIC ACID (TCA) has a long history of skin care use, and has been deemed as particularly safe and effective when used as a superficial peel (12.5%) or as a medium depth (20%) treatment for acne scars.

TCA Cross or Chemical Reconstruction of Skin Scars, is a method created by which a skilled technician applies a high percentage of TCA to the depressed scar tissue only. It is accomplished by soaking a toothpick with the TCA solution, and then by poking it into the depressed portion of the scar and leaving it until it frosts (turns white). This method allows the recipient to use a very high % of TCA (that could otherwise scar an entire face) on just a focalized area. The technique itself has not been patented or restricted to prevent usage.

The CROSS method (in a doctor's setting) is achieved by using a 65% or 100% TCA solution. It has the advantage of reconstruct­ing acne scars by focusing on the dermal thickening and collagen production that increase with high TCA concentrations. We feel that the 20% is a better choice for our customers because a 65% or 100% solution would permanently scar any surrounding tissues that might be "accidental" touched during application. We would rather see several "safer" applications applied than less "dangerous" applications.

Basic Steps

After washing with soap, the skin is cleansed with alcohol. The 20% TCA solution is focally applied by pressing hard (yet not causing bleeding!) on the entire depressed area of atrophic acne scars using a sharpened wooden applicator. The skin is monitored carefully until it reached a "frosted" appearance (multiple "layer" applications are not necessary). The frosted appearance is the result of coagulation of epidermal and dermal proteins and is used mainly to monitor the peel depth. After CROSS, an ointment­ based antibiotic will be applied for moisturizing effect, but this application is discontinued after crust (scab) formation in order to avoid the risk of detaching the crust. *We suggest the use of Copper Serum *regular ($38.95 - to avoid irritation) to keep the crust hard and attached for as long as possible. Once the crust has formed, make-up can be applied.

The Cross method will be repeatedly performed every 1-2 months to allow dermal thickening and collagen production.

Another thing to look into is the quality of stuff you are buying. Read this......

Our TCA is a Reagent Grade (ACS). This is the highest purity level that can be attained. It meets the standards of ACS Reagent Chemicals, Current Edition. Reagent grade chemicals are high quality and purity for laboratory use. The American Chemical Society Committee on Analytical Reagents establishes the standards for reagent chemicals. All of our peels are created inside of an FDA registered laboratory.



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[Cubsfan]

can some1 please send me a copy of the TCA Cross PDF document?

[technomarine_888]

reily any updates?,... photos?

[stillhere]

I just wanted to add my comment here. I tried 4 or 5 tca crosses with what seemed to be real 100% tca. The first batch I ordered did not frost or anything, so I suspect it was not very strong. I ordered from another seller and tried first on a scar by my ear to test the strenth and to see how my skin reacts. I did around 4-5 crosses on a few scars on my face with little success. I think I noticed the scar may have gotten more shallow but seemed to possibly grow in total diameter. Please be aware that the poster with great success is probably not the same success most would see. Some have claimed it made their scars bigger so please be aware of this. To be honest, I became a bit creeped out about having such a toxic chemical and neutralized all of my tca and disposed of it. I then orded some Jessners peel which is a more natural product and while strong, doubtfully could do horrible damage in the wrong hands. I am so suprised to be honest that we havn't heard of more horror stories since this tca can burn holes in rubber as well as skin. Just start out slow with a lower percentage if you want to try this. Know how your skin reacts and use/ store it responsibly.

[sweeping]

Yes, 100% TCA is akin to the alien's saliva that melts metal in the movie "Alien". I had the procedure done by a doctor (recommended here on this board) and had bad results. It's just too risky a procedure to be done, let alone by yourself. If you're going to have it done by a doctor, ask for pictures of past results at the very least.

[Cubsfan]

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[L Karamya]

cubs fan goto a doctor. i know of a good one if you are in the chicagoland area. he covered the first cross with insurance and if you respond well the followups are priced reasonably. please pm for more info. he's a great doctor and takes the time to listen. good luck.

[Baravykas]

Obviously she had those amazing results because she's a proffesional due to the reaserch she does and because as I understood she is related to that sorts of stuff. She could do the TCA on other people for money ofcourse. It would be FAR more benefitial than those other money sucking dermatologists that don't even give a small improvement. Thats just my crazy thought. Because I don't think that the results that she had are possible if we will do it on our own.