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[carefreeforever]

i tried not washing at all...

i did this for 6 months too, almost got fired for stinkin.....its amazing what youll try when your desperate

[Yesac]

Adam,

Your post is truly inspiring because I suffer from the exact same symptoms as you once had.

Honest to god, I'm praying and hoping that this will help my skin.

My only worry is I tried the CeraVe moisturizer in the past and remember it making my skin red (possible allergic reaction) so I hope that same ingredient isn't also in their cleanser.

Do you perhaps have any before/after pictures of your skin? Or perhaps could you describe what your skin felt like/ looked like before and after in detail. Did you have clogged pores on your nose/ did they go away?

If this works for me man.. I swear to you, I'll be forever thankful. I'm actually getting a bit choked up thinking about it working.

Well, wish me luck, I'm buying the cleanser tomorrow and will order a moisturizer online as well (I want to get the one you recommend, but I'm afraid it might contain the same ingredient as the CeraVe one which caused my allergic reaction)

If I have anymore questions could you possibly personal message me your AIM screen name or something.

Thanks dude.

-Casey

[adamrodriguez]

just to update people on this old thread, im still suffering from oily skin.. cerave is a really good product and all but im still really really oily when i wake up in the morning. There is a cure out there guys, moisturizer is still important tho.. i noticed i have zero acne on around my lips and chin after proper moisturization. but yeah, im looking for different ideas on how to officially solve oilyness, so ill let you know how that turns out.

[Yesac]

You just crushed my hopes and dreams.

I'm going to still give it a try, sigh.

[pause/break]

Moistrizer irritates my skin and makes it more oily so I don't use it.

i tried not washing at all...

i did this for 6 months too, almost got fired for stinkin.....its amazing what youll try when your desperate

It didn't reduce sebum production at all? I had tried it for 7 days to the point the oilness made my eyes burn so I had to stop. But my face looked normal like no oil on the outside but when I ran down my finger tip on it, it had like layers of dead skin, hair, and grease. It was nasty. I asked my family members, those that don't have oily skin, yesterday how many times they wash their face and they told me twice a day (morning and night) but only once with a soap. I wash my face 3 times a day with using the soap all 3 times. So I'm gonna try washing my face with a soap once in the morning and just rinsing with water in the shower in the late afternoon or at night.

I also cut down on drinking beer, diet coke, and eating spicy food or whatever that I suspect that messes my hormonal imbalance but it's been only a week so no big change.


Good luck you guys whatever methods you guys are trying. Don't give up.

[pink_polka234]

So what you are saying is, don't scrub or use harsh products and you won't have oily skin? A lot of those things I can't do, like I already have a regimen i need to stick with for a while.

[pchic]

ok something I have to say about aha/bha products.. I am a huge fan of aha products, I use 12% glycolic acid(aha) every night on my t zone and affected areas(scars). My toner has 5% glycolic acid and 2% salicylic acid. The toner alone has really helped my skin in making it look clearer and prevented 80% of my bumps from popping out regularly. Although my skin still looks dirty because it's really oily so that means lots of blackheads, plus with old scars, these aha products are really helping to lighten those scars and improve the clarity of my skin. So I think aha may work for some people. Perhaps my skin is not that thick or sensitive so it worked well for me.

[Lemonz]

Preferably i like foaming cleansers better than cream ones.
Cream ones have always (for some reason) stripped my skin and made it incredibly dry... including the CeraVe

[{DC}]

adam,

your oily because your sebaceous glands are more sensitive to androgen stimulation than ppl with normal skin.

No cleanser or moisturizer(unless they contain anti androgens) are going to help your oily skin.

I have been reading about boswellian extract and will give that a try. Maybe you should research that too.

Apparently Zinc Picolinate and Vit D3 help reduce oil too

[SomeGuy11]

This is probably unrelated to most people in this topic but hopefully this will help someone who is in my situation.

For 24 years of my life, I had normal/dry skin. I never had to wash my face at night. Within the past few months, I had been dripping oil. Basically Differin caused me to have incredibly oily skin. Over the years the differin has dried me out. A few months ago, I had started breaking out because of stress, and the fact that I had an extra tube of differin lying around made me decide to use a lot more on my face. Similar to how Dan puts a lot of BP on his face. During the previous month, I was using Dan's BP in the morning and Differin at night.Well in the past week, I have switched to using Dan's BP twice a day and no differin at night. I was able to go the whole work day without using an oil blotting sheet and I can tell I don't have that heavy, greasy feeling all over my skin. My chin also started getting really dry and I haven't been dry in many months. My nose is still a little oily but hopefully soon I will be back to where I don't even have to wash my face at night.

My guess is that since Differin clears pores and sheds skin, the oil was not being absorbed as much or possibly my skin was aggravated by that much differin. I was literally a step away from getting differin .3%, and then accutane once that did not work. Having said all of this, I would still highly recommend Differin. It is THE thing that made a difference in my acne. Just use a very small amount. Not gobs of it like I did. This might have been dumb, but no one ever told me it could cause this. My derm said nothing about it after seeing him twice for oily skin. I will post back if it turns out this was not it. But the fact that the oil has stopped in a week and the only thing that has changed has been differin seems more than a coincidence.

[roomforpossibilities]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think over production of sebum is caused by a large concentration of androgen receptor in sebaceous gland. Those who are lacking or have a normal concentration of androgen receptor in sebaceous glands are unlikely to be sensitive with DHT. And I doubt topical treatments can make any difference on oil-secretion.

I think DHT is influencing the androgen receptor to secrete more oil. And the repetitive interaction of these two throughout the years yields to "permanence".

I think in order for us to reduce the secretion is to wait for years of inhibiting DHT. I'm not going to include isotretinoin to reduce it since it's effect on sebaceous glands could be temporary.

I'm talking about blocking DHT to reduce it's influence on the large concentration of androgen receptor. But I also believe that one year of DHT blocking could have a minimum effect on the oil-secretion. We really need to wait for a maximum of 5 years to see a reduction.

[mystril]

As per regards to Post #51. I can't agree more.

My views on these number of posts in this topic is that, you're only treating the surface of the problem.

Not the inherent deep complex problems that is the Root of Excessive Oil Secretion.

I personally shared the same many problems as Oil-Slickers do.
Permanent grease all day long regardless of washing.
I turned to nutrition and find out the main reasons why.


1) Our glucose level fluctuates more than non-acne sufferers. We must avoid simple CARBS (E.g Sugar, White Bread, Rice etc)

Changes in glucose level sends a wrong signal to our hormones. In layman terms, blood glucose level MAY contribute to increased Oil Production.


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My Personal Observation

After abstinence from Simple Carbs for at least 4 weeks, My oil level was Tolerable. Means 2 washes a day, that fixes it.
However upon working, I had access to limitless amount of biscuits (simple carbs) in the Pantry. I realized by lunchbreak, I had to constantly wipe off that oil slick over my face.

I am not sure if that contributes to increased DHT since it's way too complex for a simpleton like me to decipher.

But through this observation and many countless I had and connecting all the points over the past years, I realize what we eat terribly affects how we Look.


Thoughts

I am not sure as regard to #51 that DHT and it's countless interactions with our bodies has caused a "Permanent Effect" but I can tell you is that I avoided Simple Carbs to my best efforts and achieved good results (as compared to my past Oil Slick).

Yes I do have blackheads and such. But it's a improvement of 50%. Yes it's still oily to others but I find it at a "comfortable" zone and strive to do more to bring down the oilness.


3 Ways to Bring down Oil Production Long-Term (W/O any stupid products)

1) Avoid Simple/Fast-Digesting carbs
2) Take supplements (Focused on Oil Production)

a) Zinc regulates hormones (not increases it). I realized my testosterone improved and my sex drive returned. W/o Zinc Supplements I feel like a limp blimp. No, my Oil Production remains normal. Zinc is not a hormone wrecker.

b) Evening Primose Oil (Containing Gamma Linolelic Acid) This supposes to help to balance androgenic hormones but I can't explain it well as I have no qualifications. After taking this for 7 days. my oil production down by 30%. I have to attribute this to my upset hormones in my body. (I am 21 Male FYI)

c) Milk Thistle. Liver helps with detox our bodies. At least on the basis, I know Liver helps to regulate our hormones level and cleanse junk out of our body via Bile and etc. People with Acne I realize, aren't meant to eat modern's diet as their liver (like mine) are weak. The over accumulation of toxics over the years may lead to cystic acne. That's why children (13 years old) gets mild pimples. It's only until we're older (with puberty) we're cursed with an upset body with raging hormones cycling around our body endlessly, unable to be purged.

Milk Thistle restores or helps augment liver function. However please be reminded that supplements aren't short term. They are long-term benefits and may take time to show. But for my case, it's usually 2-4 weeks you will appreciate the difference. And to me, that's what I need. No more on-off shit products on the net.


3) Do a Body Cleanse
Read up on Fat Flush or any other Flush Books. It's on the net as well.
As our bile carries waste hormones. It's crucial we get them out of our systems (Similar to junk files in our hard drives).
Bile usually greenish in colour gets binded to fiber and excreted out in our bodies. Unfortunately minimal fiber in our modern diet means incidences of acne is just only to get more common in years to come. Just look at McDonalds. I doubt their food helps us to shit.
Take in more greens (for their fiber) or fiber supplements.

I tried B5-overdosing as promoted in this forum. I realized B5 is diarrhea-inducing and my loose stools are all green in colour. Even though I touched little vegetables. It's not vegetables. It's bile. However the overdosage of B5 was too heavy on the side-effects than on the benefits. Holistic nutrition is still the best way long-term. Those seeking for a quick cure may only have disappointment waiting at the end.


PM me if you guys need help. All the best.

[bryan]

1) Our glucose level fluctuates more than non-acne sufferers. We must avoid simple CARBS (E.g Sugar, White Bread, Rice etc)

You seriously think white bread and rice are "simple carbs"?

[michaelmoak]

If you want a really fresh skin of your face and whole body than I give you some effective tips.

Use of fresh juices
Drink maximum water
Eat a perfect diet
Drink green tea twice in a day.

[excelicious]

In all honesty I tried this regimine/routine and just like what the author said, you will notice the difference in 3-4 days. My skin got glowier, less acne and definitely less oily. While reading this, my first reaction was "hey that makes sense: since I used to do OCM (Oil Cleansing Method). OCM for me was good for two months until I used tea tree oil, which broke me out like there was no tomorrow. Moisturizing is very important for the skin to function and work its best against harsh daily life.

The only problem with this ........ I dunno blog or info the author provided is the products he recommended. I checked it on makeupalley and found out they are pure steaming pile of doggy poo. Especially Cerave Hydrating Cleanser.

I used:

Lacura creamy face wash (moisturizing) = from ebay

Lacura Multi Intensive Serum

Lacura Anti Wrinkle Night cream (I use this even though I am 17)

These are wonderful products and very affordable too. If you don't believe me do your research about them. Peace out Peeps

[ana17925]

I went to a very reputable dermatologist and asked him if there is anything I can do to help with my oily skin. He told me that a person's oily skin is determined by genetics and there are no creams or pills that could change the way a person's body produces oil.

There is some truth to moisturizing making skin less oily, actually. Here is how it works. If we overdry our skin with washing, scrubbing and using acne products, then the skin feels that it needs to make more oil to overcompensate for the dryness and thus tends to produce more oil than necessary. Thus, we need to moisturize to keep the skin as balanced as possible if we do choose to use drying cleansers and lotions.

I have acne and BP is the only thing that makes it stop from occurring. Therefore, I cannot afford the luxury of washing my face with nothing but water and let my skin moisturize itself naturally. If I stop using harsh BP products, maybe my skin will not be as oily, but I will start breaking out within a day. I'm guessing many people on this forum will agree with me.

[bryan]

ana17925, on 17 April 2012 - 11:25 AM, said:

I went to a very reputable dermatologist and asked him if there is anything I can do to help with my oily skin. He told me that a person's oily skin is determined by genetics and there are no creams or pills that could change the way a person's body produces oil.

There is some truth to moisturizing making skin less oily, actually. Here is how it works. If we overdry our skin with washing, scrubbing and using acne products, then the skin feels that it needs to make more oil to overcompensate for the dryness and thus tends to produce more oil than necessary. Thus, we need to moisturize to keep the skin as balanced as possible if we do choose to use drying cleansers and lotions.

HUH??? Didn't you even bother to ask the dermatologist (the one that you mentioned in your first paragraph above) if there was any truth to the idea that having dry skin causes it to produce more oil?? Several times over the years, I've explained the scientific evidence that refutes that simple notion. Why didn't you talk to your dermatologist about that same issue?