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[v_singh]

yeah the lumps from the fat or just uneveness is one of the reasons why i dont want to get this done.

[icepickman]

Hello, This is a question to BRD

I have been reading throughout this post and I came across a doctor in my town that is offering something similar to what is being talked about (I think?) .. Is this similar and what type of lasting effects would this procedure give?? Here is an excerpt from his website.

The idea of ASCeS is not that new and the technology has been used in orthopedic and plastic surgery. Blood contains many growth factors which are indispensible for wound healing. Some of these compounds include platelet derived growth factor, vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) and transforming growth factor beta 1 (TGF-β1). These growth factors attract larger number of stem cells into the treated areas (chemotaxis) and at the same time triggers a cascade of events that leads to tissue repair although in reality no real injury has taken place. The stem cells can change into epidermal cells that are normally present in the outer layer of the skin, fibroblasts in the dermis (deep layer of the skin) or even pre-adipocytes which are cells with the ability to convert into fat cells, important in the face to maintain plumpness. At the same time, production of new extra-cellular matrix (the substance that ‘binds’ cells together) and microscopic blood vessels take place. Resident fibroblasts are among the cells that are activated by TGF-beta. When a fibroblast is activated it will undergo cell division and produce collagen. Collagen deposition is responsible for plumping the skin and reversing the visible signs of aging.Etc...

[askin77]

has anybody got any news on developement of CosmetaLife filler? struggle to find any updates

[coconut scar]

Hello, This is a question to BRD

I have been reading throughout this post and I came across a doctor in my town that is offering something similar to what is being talked about (I think?) .. Is this similar and what type of lasting effects would this procedure give?? Here is an excerpt from his website.

The idea of ASCeS is not that new and the technology has been used in orthopedic and plastic surgery. Blood contains many growth factors which are indispensible for wound healing. Some of these compounds include platelet derived growth factor, vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) and transforming growth factor beta 1 (TGF-β1). These growth factors attract larger number of stem cells into the treated areas (chemotaxis) and at the same time triggers a cascade of events that leads to tissue repair although in reality no real injury has taken place. The stem cells can change into epidermal cells that are normally present in the outer layer of the skin, fibroblasts in the dermis (deep layer of the skin) or even pre-adipocytes which are cells with the ability to convert into fat cells, important in the face to maintain plumpness. At the same time, production of new extra-cellular matrix (the substance that ‘binds’ cells together) and microscopic blood vessels take place. Resident fibroblasts are among the cells that are activated by TGF-beta. When a fibroblast is activated it will undergo cell division and produce collagen. Collagen deposition is responsible for plumping the skin and reversing the visible signs of aging.Etc...

Hello Icepick
where is this doctor ? This does sound like the way to go for some people

[waitingforacure]

Stem Cells Regenerate New Finger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_OI4TtzlDw

[John.]

this stem cell treatment that BRD is talking about seems amazing. I've been following this thread for a while now and reading about these stem cell treatments has brought e a lot of hope back into my life. At the same time I feel very frustrated. There is no clinic where you could hve this procedure done. I had lots of hope about the procedure that Dr Khan is doing ,but after reading that the reults will only last for 12 months, I got really sad. That's just really expnsive restylane, basically. Is this stem cell thing too god to be true or is there still hope? I would do anything to get the treatment that BRD is offering but it is impossible, since there is no clinic in the world that is offering it. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to be negative ,but it just seems like the day that we'll have access to a high quality, long lasting stem cell treatment, seems lightyears away.

[v_singh]

So this stem cell treamtment doesnt actually get rid of the scar tissue it just fills it in and raises the scar to the surrounding level. ?? you could just get fat injections then or some other filler.

[*unknown*]

This is a new/interesting article I read about French scientists creating skin. I wanted to share it with you guys. Here you go:

French scientists create skin fast from stem cells
Tue Dec 1, 2009 7:38am EST

PARIS (Reuters) - French scientists have found a way to create human skin rapidly from stem cells, a discovery that could save the lives of many burns victims who are vulnerable to infection and now wait weeks for a skin graft.

The scientists made the breakthrough by creating a patch of human skin on a mouse's back using stem cells -- cells which have the ability to develop into any human cell.

Skin grafts have traditionally been created from cell cultures taken from the patient -- a process that takes three weeks, too long for some patients suffering extensive burns.

The new method using stem cells allows hospitals to order human skin as soon as they take in a burns victim.

"What our findings can provide is a way to cover the burns during those three weeks with skin epidermis ... produced in that factory and sent to the physician at the moment they receive a severely burned patient," Marc Peschanski, research director at the institute I-Stem, told Reuters Television.

"They call the factory and then, immediately, they will get a square meter of epidermis which will be a temporary way to cover the burns," he added.

"We grafted cells on the back of a mouse on which we had created a wound, and we observed twelve weeks later that the epidermis had mended itself," said Xavier Nissan, who took part in the study by I-stem, which develops regeneration therapies using stem cells.

In France, 200 to 300 people a year risk dying from severe burns, said Peschanski, who hopes the new method will become a common therapeutic tool.

"So it is really a new hope for those people and really, any one of us could become a severe burns patient," he said. (Reporting by Reuters TV; writing by Sophie Taylor, editing by Tim Pearce)

© Thomson Reuters 2009 All rights reserved

Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews...E5B01MV20091201

[coconut scar]

All of this is very exciting.I have been following this post since the very beginning and it's so obvious that the stem cells are the answer to all of the problems discussed here. One thing that is bothersome is that scar sufferers are not taken seriously in the medical community.Our medical financial system is not intended for us to heal, that's the sad part. Many of us have been sold on laser and ended up worse than before but in the end they are still selling and pushing new lasers on people. It doesn't make sense to me to burn and melt & shrink wrap the largest organ of the body in order to make it heal. It sets up all kinds of other problems in the future. What is it going to take to bring the stem cells to the forefront so scar sufferers can be treated equally along with other deseases ? Wouldn't now be the right time for people to be heard ? not later. There's plenty of money to make it happen. There's an abundance all over the world. Heck, the treatment already exists ! This treatment needs to be available so that people don't have to travel half way around the globe. When is this going to become reality? Many people are tired of waiting. *** BRD has done a tremendous job in keeping people informed. It's time we form one voice to wake up the medical community that we wont buy their current products of foreign substance fillers, lasers etc. It is our right to use our cells as we please and .We want to use our own cells to heal
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God Bless all of you

[MellowFellow]

All of this is very exciting.I have been following this post since the very beginning and it's so obvious that the stem cells are the answer to all of the problems discussed here. One thing that is bothersome is that scar sufferers are not taken seriously in the medical community.Our medical financial system is not intended for us to heal, that's the sad part. Many of us have been sold on laser and ended up worse than before but in the end they are still selling and pushing new lasers on people. It doesn't make sense to me to burn and melt & shrink wrap the largest organ of the body in order to make it heal. It sets up all kinds of other problems in the future. What is it going to take to bring the stem cells to the forefront so scar sufferers can be treated equally along with other deseases ? Wouldn't now be the right time for people to be heard ? not later. There's plenty of money to make it happen. There's an abundance all over the world. Heck, the treatment already exists ! This treatment needs to be available so that people don't have to travel half way around the globe. When is this going to become reality? Many people are tired of waiting. *** BRD has done a tremendous job in keeping people informed. It's time we form one voice to wake up the medical community that we wont buy their current products of foreign substance fillers, lasers etc. It is our right to use our cells as we please and .We want to use our own cells to heal
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God Bless all of you

yeah probably the hardest thing about dealing with acne scars is dealing with all the scams and false claims from the cosmetic surgery community. Any other type of medical problem and we're dealt with seriously and doctors are intent on curing your problem but with acne scars, you got everybody trying to sell us on everything.

[coconut scar]

All of this is very exciting.I have been following this post since the very beginning and it's so obvious that the stem cells are the answer to all of the problems discussed here. One thing that is bothersome is that scar sufferers are not taken seriously in the medical community.Our medical financial system is not intended for us to heal, that's the sad part. Many of us have been sold on laser and ended up worse than before but in the end they are still selling and pushing new lasers on people. It doesn't make sense to me to burn and melt & shrink wrap the largest organ of the body in order to make it heal. It sets up all kinds of other problems in the future. What is it going to take to bring the stem cells to the forefront so scar sufferers can be treated equally along with other deseases ? Wouldn't now be the right time for people to be heard ? not later. There's plenty of money to make it happen. There's an abundance all over the world. Heck, the treatment already exists ! This treatment needs to be available so that people don't have to travel half way around the globe. When is this going to become reality? Many people are tired of waiting. *** BRD has done a tremendous job in keeping people informed. It's time we form one voice to wake up the medical community that we wont buy their current products of foreign substance fillers, lasers etc. It is our right to use our cells as we please and .We want to use our own cells to heal
*
God Bless all of you

yeah probably the hardest thing about dealing with acne scars is dealing with all the scams and false claims from the cosmetic surgery community. Any other type of medical problem and we're dealt with seriously and doctors are intent on curing your problem but with acne scars, you got everybody trying to sell us on everything.

[Sarah222]

All of this is very exciting.I have been following this post since the very beginning and it's so obvious that the stem cells are the answer to all of the problems discussed here. One thing that is bothersome is that scar sufferers are not taken seriously in the medical community.Our medical financial system is not intended for us to heal, that's the sad part. Many of us have been sold on laser and ended up worse than before but in the end they are still selling and pushing new lasers on people. It doesn't make sense to me to burn and melt & shrink wrap the largest organ of the body in order to make it heal. It sets up all kinds of other problems in the future. What is it going to take to bring the stem cells to the forefront so scar sufferers can be treated equally along with other deseases ? Wouldn't now be the right time for people to be heard ? not later. There's plenty of money to make it happen. There's an abundance all over the world. Heck, the treatment already exists ! This treatment needs to be available so that people don't have to travel half way around the globe. When is this going to become reality? Many people are tired of waiting. *** BRD has done a tremendous job in keeping people informed. It's time we form one voice to wake up the medical community that we wont buy their current products of foreign substance fillers, lasers etc. It is our right to use our cells as we please and .We want to use our own cells to heal
*
God Bless all of you

yeah probably the hardest thing about dealing with acne scars is dealing with all the scams and false claims from the cosmetic surgery community. Any other type of medical problem and we're dealt with seriously and doctors are intent on curing your problem but with acne scars, you got everybody trying to sell us on everything.

I second that. It's like awareness ribbons are needed...

I still feel the problem is people do not believe it is a reality. The see the potential of stem cells but still feel it's 10 to 20 years away.

Edited by Sarah222, 10 December 2009 - 08:52 AM.

[waitingforacure]

New Skin Stem Cells Surprisingly Similar to Those Found in Embryos

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/...91209121202.htm

[jaden]

BRD
did you ever find out what might help me to reduce fat grafting?

[michael24]

Any updates from people who have had the procedure done or improvements on the procedure itself? Also I do not know if it has been mentioned but how much can one expect to pay to have this done?

Edited by michael24, 14 December 2009 - 02:30 PM.

[elevate]

the cost in the UK is about 6000 pounds or roughly 10000 USD.

it appears some doctors in the US are starting to do similar procedures, however, i imagine it's a bit more expensive given the location in beverly hills.

http://hubpages.com/hub/beverlyhillsacnecure

again, i would welcome more result postings on this thread. if the results are good, and more of us take on this procedure, it will become more widespread, and perhaps demand will reduce the cost a little.

[wishful thinker]

hiya everyone,
sorry i hav,nt been on earlier than this but i,ve been recovering. Some of you may be aware that i,ve had 2 procedures done by dr khan. The first was done 5weeks ago where i got fat removed from my abdomen and cells injected into my face plus some subcision second treatment was done 2 weeks ago when i had skin removed from my neck and dermaroller then cells from the skin were injected and rubbed onto the skin to give me pigmentation. Results...... plumped out skin.... yes. scars.....still here but have improved.......pigmentation.......slight change. dr khan said it would take about 6 weeks for cells to kick in and skin would improve within 3-6 months - heres hoping! By the way hope u all have a MERRY X.MAS XX

[v_singh]

hiya everyone,
sorry i hav,nt been on earlier than this but i,ve been recovering. Some of you may be aware that i,ve had 2 procedures done by dr khan. The first was done 5weeks ago where i got fat removed from my abdomen and cells injected into my face plus some subcision second treatment was done 2 weeks ago when i had skin removed from my neck and dermaroller then cells from the skin were injected and rubbed onto the skin to give me pigmentation. Results...... plumped out skin.... yes. scars.....still here but have improved.......pigmentation.......slight change. dr khan said it would take about 6 weeks for cells to kick in and skin would improve within 3-6 months - heres hoping! By the way hope u all have a MERRY X.MAS XX

wishful thinker - you recomended i get the glyco serum to treat my large pores .... could you check what the main / active ingredient is and what percentage it is? i have a feeling its glycolic acid.

Thanks

[Bulgarian R.]

BRD
did you ever find out what might help me to reduce fat grafting?

Hi Jaden,

Please excuse my late reply.

I have been doing a bit of internet research regarding ultrasound massage skin therapy for the reduction of adipose tissue. I have primarily searched through online peer reviewed medical journals. Unfortunately I wasn't able to find any controlled studies regarding the use of 3-5 Mhz ultrasound massagers for facial contouring and fat reduction.

Facial tissues are very delicate and thus when performing any specific treatment one must evaluate procedural predictability, reliability and repeatability in order to properly construct a realistic benefits/risks ratio. That said, at the moment I am unable to assess the risks objectively. I don't have direct experience with this technology, nor do I know of anyone who has used it in the way I initially conjectured may be beneficial for your specific condition. Therefore it would be unethical of me to recommend it to you at this point of time.

I'll keep looking for solutions that may be of benefit to you. Please feel free to contact me anytime.

BRD

Edited by Bulgarian R. Dermatologist, 24 December 2009 - 06:41 AM.

[Franklins Tower]

Hi BRD,

I sent you an email several weeks back but I'm not sure if you received it.

All the best this holiday season.

FT