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#1 Demorph

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 04:35 AM


hey there!

there's currently one question that makes me ponder.
i'm eating a lot of fats lately leaving the amount of consumed carbs at around 100g per day.
Furthermore, i think that i maintain my calorie intake which is around 2000 calories a day but
the problem is, that i'm losing weight.

does anybody have a clue why that might be?

my skin is actually a little better if i cut back on carbs bot too much fat makes it as bad as too many carbs. the treshold is just higher with fats.

any ideas?

thanks

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 08:39 AM

I'm in the same boat that you're in - "too much fat makes it as bad as too many carbs".

I've lowered both my carb and fat intake. Basically, i've lowered my daily caloric intake and it's working out for me.

Instead of consuming 2000 calories a day, try lowering it little by little everyday. Obviously, though, don't lower it past your comfort level.

When you exercise, make sure you do some anaerobic exercises/resistance training to maintain some weight.

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 09:26 AM

Your body needs fat. In the past, people thought that eating fat was bad and would cause you to gain weight. Now studies are showing that this is wrong. Eating good kinds of fat can actually help you lose weight. But if you eat bad fats (trans fats, etc.) you will gain weight. Eat only good kinds of fats like those found in Coconut Oil.

If you don't want to lose weight, perhaps add some protein? I am not really sure how to keep/gain weight since I have never had to deal with that.

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 09:37 AM

Thats one of the hardest questions out there. I eat a lot of carbs, because I am a vegan. I also eat a lot of beans, grains, soy, veggies and fruit. I take in little fat, BUT a lot of carbs. I have gained no weight though, actually I have lost about 5 pounds, but that was goal I had set.


I would have the agree with the protein intake. My boyfriend eats whatever he wants- but takes that whey protein and works out and he has for sure gotten much more muscle weight on him.


GOOD LUCK.

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 12:55 PM

Oh wait, you wanna gain weight, Demorph? Do you workout at all?

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 02:01 PM

The fat you eat doesn't equal body fat, just like cholesterol in food doesn't equal cholesterol in blood.

Simple carbs is probably the best recipe for a belly.



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Posted 08 January 2009 - 11:10 PM

Well I am on the edge of underweight for my height and my doctor told me that if I want to gain weight I should eat healthy and eat a lot of whole dairy like yogurt.
Does the way you gain weight have anything to do you your body type/metabolism (endomorph, ectomorph, mesomorph)?
I'm pretty clueless with that but if you figure out what type you are there are different kinds of diets to gain weight for the different body types.
haha I hope I don't sound like an ignorant person feeding you useless info.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectomorphic
http://health.learninginfo.org/body-types.htm


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Posted 10 January 2009 - 08:56 AM

I think we are not losing "weight"
but what were actually losing is muscle weight not fatty weight.
so when you eat alot of fatty food and don't exercise you simply lose those muscle weight. eg from your thighs/arms/stomach (those are the main areas)

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 10:42 AM

QUOTE (jksl @ Jan 8 2009, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh wait, you wanna gain weight, Demorph? Do you workout at all?


yes, i'd like to put on a few pounds for i weigh in at 137lbs. being 5'11.

i do work out enough to have an athletic body frame, tough thin.

i know that i could put on weight eating alot of carbs, but then my skin would get out of control.

also, i put on fat mainly in the belly area and i want it to be distributed evenly throughout my body...

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 11:15 AM

QUOTE (Face Mask @ Jan 10 2009, 09:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so when you eat alot of fatty food and don't exercise you simply lose those muscle weight. eg from your thighs/arms/stomach (those are the main areas)


Where are you getting this b.s. from? Sounds like you think fat is bad and are attributing all bad things to it.
I've been eating a LOT of fatty foods (at least 60% per day from fat), and have not lifted in about a month, and have barely lost any muscle...

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 12:15 PM

eating fatty foods decreases ur appetite because you are eating fewer carbs. eating alot of carbs causes surges in insulin, which increases appetite and stimulates your body to store more body fat.

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 12:32 PM

QUOTE (Demorph @ Jan 10 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes, i'd like to put on a few pounds for i weigh in at 137lbs. being 5'11.

i do work out enough to have an athletic body frame, tough thin.

i know that i could put on weight eating alot of carbs, but then my skin would get out of control.

also, i put on fat mainly in the belly area and i want it to be distributed evenly throughout my body...


Well, all i can suggest is kick up the anaerobic exercises/weight training and maybe cut down (but, don't abandon) the aerobic exercises/cardio. That'll help you cut down on weight from body fat and you'll get cumulative gains in muscle weight. Over time, you'll gain over 137 lbs. while reducing fat at the same time.

I understand you wanna gain weight and avoid bad skin at the same time. Seeing that your skin behaves the same way as mine (too much of either carbs or fat being bad for skin), cut down on both. Gaining weight while reducing calories may seem counter-intuitive, but it's not impossible. It might just take longer.

I primarily eat (lean cut) meat cooked on a foreman-like grill, veggies, and seafood. I use a little sesame oil for cooking sometimes for the vitamin E, as well as sea salt and herbs and spices. I avoid fruits and nuts. I'll have some rice every now and then. Rice is the only grain i would touch.

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 02:33 PM

"Unfortunately eating too much fat predisposes you to insulin resistance. Fat prevents insulin from doing its job. Pancreas has to compensate by releasing more insulin. More insulin means more acne causing hormones. "

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6494802/Acne-and-Carbs

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 02:41 PM

QUOTE (acnejean @ Jan 10 2009, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Unfortunately eating too much fat predisposes you to insulin resistance. Fat prevents insulin from doing its job. Pancreas has to compensate by releasing more insulin. More insulin means more acne causing hormones. "

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6494802/Acne-and-Carbs


So what would this link have you do? Eat low fat (because, according to this, fat means more insulin is produced), low carb (because this will lead to blood sugar spikes and more insulin being released), and high protein (cause that is all that is left)? I'm not buying it.

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 03:29 PM

QUOTE (acnejean @ Jan 10 2009, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Unfortunately eating too much fat predisposes you to insulin resistance. Fat prevents insulin from doing its job. Pancreas has to compensate by releasing more insulin. More insulin means more acne causing hormones. "

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6494802/Acne-and-Carbs


I can't take that link seriously, as it doesn't cite any sources and it makes some sweeping claims. Find a clinical study that found that fat increased insulin resistance, and that eating not as much fat decreased it.

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 04:16 PM

focus in protein and balance fats/carbs

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 04:36 PM

thanks to jksl. i'll try to.

didn't danny once say the same thing? that too much fat increases insulin resistance?





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