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[templefromwithin]

(skip to the bottom if you are not interested in the background info)

I have been through terrible acne, large cysts, pimples, pus, pain, red marks, everything. I had acne for over 3 years. I have tried all the useless carbon copy treatments, over the counter and Rx, with no avail.Someone of them worked temporary, but did not solve the underlying problem. This lead me to a final revelation that would mark the end of acne as I know it. I sat down and researched EVERYTHING about acne. I read EVERYTHING, articles, reports, clinical studies, textbooks, got opinions from doctors.
I applied my knowledge from the variety of sources and sat down and saught to answer the question: 'what causes acne' Yes, we all know oil, clogged pores, androgens, are the facts blah blah But this is not what we are concerned about, it is what doctors are. What we are interested in is unearthing how to STOP the PRECURSORS of acne. How do we FIX our skin from not being able to slough off dead skin cells?How do we STOP our body from producing these bad acne causing hormones? By answering these questions I crafted a solution, a working, logical, real solution, that had cleared me completely.

PROS: It works.

CONS: Can be Pricey.

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THE TREATMENT

Acne must be address ON ALL FRONTS, thats just how it has be to treated- This means internally and externally. This is my
treatment.



EXTERNAL: Clearing existing acne infected skin BY ADDRESSING THE 3 PROBLEMS


1. FIGHT DEAD SKIN CELLS/ CLOGGED PORES

- Use a Cleanser with AHA (to slough off dead skin cell and reveal newer skin) and Salysilic Acid 2.0% to kill off and existing bacteria and also aid in exfoliation.

- I used ZIRH CLEAN. http://www.zirh.com/product.aspx?f=6


2. FIGHT PIMPLES

-Use BP. BP introduces oxygen which acts as a catalyst to dissolve pimples. Simple as that. Dan is right about 2.5%, works good.

- I used 10% PANOXYL, you will obviously adjust % by the type sensitivity of your skin


3. STOP INFLAMMATION and IRRITATION

- MOISTURIZE with a PROPER moisturizer. Although the BP will treat the pimples, using a moisturizer effectively reduces inflammation and irritation from dryness and and exposure to bacteria and sunlight.

- I used ZIRH PROTECT. Great, light moisturizer, non visible non codomeogenic, and contains AHA (alpha hydroxy acid) to help exfoliate. Amazing product, smells good too. http://www.zirh.com/product.aspx?f=8

- You MUST use a good moisturizer. DO NOT SKIP THIS.IF you really think you can skip it then you will just find your self frustrated with slow healing, and new developing acne. IF you really hate the look try it at night first to get used to it, then you'll be hooked.

4. DO NOT POP
one thing to say about this. When I popped, I would notice more acne in the area. When I sucked it up and said 1-2 days of white caps is better than weeks more of acne in the same spot I noticed instant results. I do agree the caps look bad but when left along they dissapear while popping leaves a large red inflamed mark that eventually just spreads everywhere else.

Touching is fine, ONLY if you are using a 'good' moisturizer.



INTERNAL: Solve the 3 INTERNAL problems.



1. STOP HIGH OIL(SEBUM) PRODUCTION [ IMPORTANT]

- We must shut it down. Our acne prone bodies cannot do it on its on. you MUST use pantothenic acid, or (b5). I wont o into the science of how it works but It basically SHUTS DOWN oil production internally. High does are required for full effectivness but b5 is so safe, and its water soluble (you pee out extra).

- I take NOW Panthenic Acid. 4 simple 500mg pills, twice daily, its really not bad at all. You will also find, delightfully that b5 provides GREAT sleep, and increases energy during the day.

I have always been using b5 ( for 2 years to 'control' acne but it wasnt until i added these other layers of treatment for me to be fully clear. This being said over the course of 2 ears I have notice NO adverese effects from b5 usage.

The best and cheapest brand is NOW Pantothenic Acid, available on bodybuilding.com.Comes in 250 bottles of 500mg. ITs good to have a pill organizer, makes this process easier.


2. DETOXIFY/REGULATE HORMONES [IMPORTANT]

- DRINK ACV. Pour BRAGG ORGANIC AC VINEGAR into a shot glass and take it down. tastes like shit but I along with hundred other can swear by it. I believe this with the fish oil and B5 truly cleared my skin. drinking it is like taking a shot of jack daniels, onces is over its all good. I chase with gatorade and works good!.

I do not understand the scence behind ACV, but all i know is when instlled into my regimine during development, it bascially sealed the deal. It works orally, not topically,if topically, results are only marginal. I tried it last year. Smells like garbage too. DRINK IT!

- Used Bragg Organic Apple Cider Vinegar as mentioned. 1 shot glass daily ( 1 ounce). Drink it like booze and shoot it down. You could dilute it too, but that just drags it out. Its your choice.


3. REPLACE BAD OIL PRODUCTION

-Take fish oil, omega 3 twice daily. We all know the benefits of Omega 3. Just Make sure you use a brand that is not sketchy. Fish oil is a such a delicate thing, think of it, it gets squished out of a fish. Make sure your source is from healthy fish flesh, not the eyes or brains. Make sure contains massive amounts of EFA and DHA (the omega 3 acids) this reflects the quality of the fish oil.

- I use Nutra sea High potency fish oil, 2 caps , twice daily. http://www.ascentahealth.com/products/huma...hp-120-softgels


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Thats it, do this everyday and you will be clear. This regimine cleared me in 1 week, with early signs of results in 1 day.


please ask me questions.

MY SUPPLY SUMMARY LIST

Cleanser: ZIRH Clean (AHA, SA) http://www.zirh.com/product.aspx?f=6
Pimples: PanOxyl 10% BP, Doesnt have to be 10% though. http://www.stiefel.ca/products_acne.php
Protection: ZIRH Protect (AHA, SPF, Moisturizer) http://www.zirh.com/product.aspx?f=8

Oil: NOW B5 Pantothenic Acid, 250caps, 500mg. http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/pan.html
Toxins: Bragg Organic Apple Cider Vinegar http://bragg.com/products/acv.html
Inflammation: Nutrasea Fish Oil. High potency.http://www.ascentahealth.com/products

[lucky8573]

When you take the b5 pills do you take 8 total per day? and also will flax oil work as well instead of fish oil?

[Jonima]

WOW! i am so tired of acne, and i am tired of people saying "acne takes time." It doesnt have to apparently! i was on accutane and got clear in 3 moths, thats proof acne doesnt take time for every scenario. but it came back . i have had acne totaling 4 years now, so i have done research. if i had never had acne, i wouldnt know so much about health and the integumentary and endocrine systems haha!

so this is basically everything i already know about, but i never thought about combining them. everyone on here says and knows that not everybody skin is the same, so this might not work the same for me as it did for you. (read HERE FOR MY STORY or just check out my profile to read all my posts.

this sounds like it will work, hopfeully. next chance i get, i will buy all of the materials needed that i don't already have. except for that specific brand of face wash and moisturizer. i never was a fan of moisturizer...(but i will still use some offbrand one)

i have moderate acne plus a few cysts on my jawline. so what did you have so that i may compare.

and where can i buy B5 in that much of a potent form of pill. i have the super b complex pill that only includes 5 mg per pill.... 1% of what you're taking.

and i will address the other issues/myths. What do you think of:
a.touching the face?
b.water consumption?
1.how much?
2.importance?
c.diet
1.what to eat/not to eat (i never really noticed a difference)
2.natural nutrient importance
d.exercise



I am 17, so i know this is mainly puberty, what was your case?







yay for templefromwithin's patented TREATMENT!

[steve.n]

This is just my experience with this kind of regimen. I've been using tman's regimen for a while now which is pretty similar to this regimen. Even in his regimen he split up the routine into two parts like you (Internally and Externally). Basically tman's regimen was using salicylic acid cleanser to wash and using AHA lotion to moisturize after, then taking supplements such as Fish Oil, Vitamins, things like that to take care of the problem internally. Also he recommended taking psyllium husk as well. Right now the only thing I'm having problems with are the dark marks >.<. As for acne itself, I barely get them, even if I do it's never a big one anymore. I've been using it for almost a month (before I couldn't get all the supplies needed >.<), and it's working great.

O I forgot to mention, I had moderate-severe acne before using this regimen, so speaking from my experience this regimen can help those with moderate or maybe even severe acne.

[JBguy]

I am very interested in the ACV treatment, but I honestly dont htink I can stomach that shit.
The smell alone makes me gag

[Jonima]

O I forgot to mention, I had moderate-severe acne before using this regimen, so speaking from my experience this regimen can help those with moderate or maybe even severe acne.

Thank goodness!

[Jonima]

i have a bunch more questions.
-Will OXY pads be a good substitute for a cleanser with salicylic acid and the AHA. It contains 2% Salicylic Acid and i guess it exfoliates because of its raised circles on the wipe. And then i could use soap of a mild cleanser for a face wash in addition to the OXY. ??
-How much of the ACV should i drink in one day? And is the amount if drink directly proportional to the results of clear skin (i.e. more oz. of ACV, more clear skin...visa versa)? Is it okay to mix the ACV with other stuff to reduce the taste?
-You said to do the Treatment everyday, and take the Fish oil twice a day...What about everything else?

[DeAntonio]

Im finally gonna try the b5 & see if it helps... seriously at this point Im lost, I'll have streaks where I have great improvement but then I'll break out awfully with no change in diet or lifestyle for the most part, nothing dramatic enough at least that I can see


For people who are megadosing (8-12 grams a day) how do you usually break that down

4 grams 3 times a day, 6 grams twice a day or what?

I am very interested in the ACV treatment, but I honestly dont htink I can stomach that shit.
The smell alone makes me gag

honestly it isnt that bad

either heavily dilute it or just kill a shot mixed with something that tastes good... I take a shot & chase it with water & Im fine

[AltaPGT]

Bump

[templefromwithin]

Hey u guys sorry for the leap of absences.. I have been going out 24/7, basically living the dream with clear skin haha. Its been 2 weeks since i started this regimine and i am still 100% clear and my red marks are dissapearing like no tommorow. Still got some red marks on the back tho.

Anyways Ill address all your questions!



Take 8 B5 Pills per day (4 and 4). Seriously, b5 is insanely harmless, all it does it stop oil production. If your find 4 and 4 isnt enough (everyone produces difference amount of sebum), switch to 6 and 6, and that should do the job, then you can widdle down to maintenance (4 and 4)
B5 USE IS KEY!

Flax seed oil is no where near as good as a (high quality) fish oil This is because of the DHA EPA concentrations (he omega-3 factor). Fish oil is inherently higher in omega-3 making it much more effective,


a.touching the face:
cant help you, but with your face moisturized, its totally fine.

b.water consumption:
Drink a decent amount, I dont get these poeple that drink 4000 L per day. you dont need that much, just simply make sure your not dehydrated. I drink about 2L of pure water a day.

2.importance?
I beleive diet is not a factor. through my acne stuggle I have altered mny foods. No difference. IF there are oil inducing foods, b5 use will quell any of it from getting to your skin.

1.what to eat/not to eat (i never really noticed a difference)
no difference

2.natural nutrient importance
useless, eat whatever you want. Were ae human beings, we can handle chemicals...organic is just a waste of money and wont benefit anyone in the short or long run.

d.exercise
Definatley helps, sweat is good, but make sure you wash it off right after.


ACV: CHASE IT! Really, the shot is absolutley disgusting, but if you hold ur breath, pound it back then chase it with a ton of gatorade (or juice) then itll be fine. ALWAYS Brush after!




-Will OXY pads be a good substitute for a cleanser with salicylic acid and the AHA. It contains 2% Salicylic Acid and i guess it exfoliates because of its raised circles on the wipe. And then i could use soap of a mild cleanser for a face wash in addition to the OXY. ??

If its got SA- OXY PADS work, everything else is filler.

-How much of the ACV should i drink in one day? And is the amount if drink directly proportional to the results of clear skin (i.e. more oz. of ACV, more clear skin...visa versa)? Is it okay to mix the ACV with other stuff to reduce the taste?

I used 1 ounce a day. ( A shot glass). I am decently big dude 5'11 215, so it did the trick.

-You said to do the Treatment everyday, and take the Fish oil twice a day...What about everything else?

I take everything everyday, This is what it takes to kill acne.

[templefromwithin]

AS for moisturizers...


Everyone hates these, Its understandable why. Their gooey, make your face shiny, usally stink and make your acne appear more 'present'.

HOWEVER, A GOOD, PROPER, moisturizer is completly different. When you apply the right amount of a good moisutrizer, its feels light, makes ur skin feel awesome at the end of the day and reduces and prevents pimples.

What i mean by a good, and proper moisturizer is:

non codeomgenic

light

you want it to contain AHA's, this is key. This means it works at exfoilating our skin all day long, constantly sloughing off dead skin cells.

good scent

Anti Oxidants

Again, I feel this is the best moisturizer on the market. No it is not overrated and no it is not all marketing hype. its awesome, it works.
http://www.zirh.com/product.aspx?f=8

Dan's AHA is also equally acceptable!

[tabmire]

what do you think of Dan's AHA moisturizer? would it be a suitable substitute?

[templefromwithin]

Totally. Dans AHA seems great, I just dont want a box that says ''acne'' arriving on my door for all to see haha.

[templefromwithin]

WOW! i am so tired of acne, and i am tired of people saying "acne takes time." It doesnt have to apparently! i was on accutane and got clear in 3 moths, thats proof acne doesnt take time for every scenario. but it came back . i have had acne totaling 4 years now, so i have done research. if i had never had acne, i wouldnt know so much about health and the integumentary and endocrine systems haha!

so this is basically everything i already know about, but i never thought about combining them. everyone on here says and knows that not everybody skin is the same, so this might not work the same for me as it did for you. (read HERE FOR MY STORY or just check out my profile to read all my posts.

this sounds like it will work, hopfeully. next chance i get, i will buy all of the materials needed that i don't already have. except for that specific brand of face wash and moisturizer. i never was a fan of moisturizer...(but i will still use some offbrand one)

i have moderate acne plus a few cysts on my jawline. so what did you have so that i may compare.

and where can i buy B5 in that much of a potent form of pill. i have the super b complex pill that only includes 5 mg per pill.... 1% of what you're taking.

and i will address the other issues/myths. What do you think of:
a.touching the face?
b.water consumption?
1.how much?
2.importance?
c.diet
1.what to eat/not to eat (i never really noticed a difference)
2.natural nutrient importance
d.exercise



I am 17, so i know this is mainly puberty, what was your case?







yay for templefromwithin's patented TREATMENT!

H forgot to mention. The concentration of my acne was my chin, and nearby jaw area, aas well as on my temples.

for some reason my forehead never received a pimple in my 3 years.

I am 19. No sure about how puberty factors in first got acne at 16 and it never got better untill this.

[AltaPGT]

Do you think you will have to keep up the topical regimen permanently or now that you are getting ur body fixed internally might you be able to reduce some topicals soon?

[templefromwithin]

Yeah certainly, I mean this is the first time Ive been clear, but I plan on reducing the intensity of my topical treatment in the next few weeks.

I already stopped using BP a week ago on the last pimple.

[I hate redspots]

2.natural nutrient importance
useless, eat whatever you want. Were ae human beings, we can handle chemicals...organic is just a waste of money and wont benefit anyone in the short or long run.

Please get a clue before you post this kind of thing?
Half of the reason for organic products is to reduce the environmental impact just as much as a health impact.

[ayla]

2.natural nutrient importance
useless, eat whatever you want. Were ae human beings, we can handle chemicals...organic is just a waste of money and wont benefit anyone in the short or long run.

Please get a clue before you post this kind of thing?
Half of the reason for organic products is to reduce the environmental impact just as much as a health impact.

seconded.

[Jonima]

2.natural nutrient importance
useless, eat whatever you want. Were ae human beings, we can handle chemicals...organic is just a waste of money and wont benefit anyone in the short or long run.

Please get a clue before you post this kind of thing?
Half of the reason for organic products is to reduce the environmental impact just as much as a health impact.

seconded.

I think what he meant was beneficial for our bodies internally, not the environment.

[jdub45]

The B5 thing is true. Ill take that in the morning, at lunch, and then around bedtime.

I do 8 in the morning, 8 at lunch, and 4 before bed.

Take a little cup of orange juice and then put a few tble spoons of ACV in, its a tangy drink but will not sting your throat as much as it would alone!