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[tricia]

Alot of scar tissue is shiny, mine is too a little. I doubt the silicone caused it to be shiny, it just pushed the tissue up to the surface so you noticed it more. Scar tissue is damaged skin so it won't have a normal appearance. However, I have had some shiny scars get better with time, I bet something like a retinoid or maybe needling could help it. Otherwise, play around with a yellow concealer underneath your makeup, maybe just use mineral makeup on top, it won't sink into the skin as much to disturb the concealer!

[Marko_MNE]

I have contacted doctor Channing Barnett , as I saw some tremendeous results on her website , and here is the answer I got:

Marko,

Thank you for your contacting us and for your interest in our acne scar treatments. Depending on what type of acne scars you have and how severe they are, there are different ways to treat them to significantly improve them. In our office, the technique we use most often and which most other doctors do not perform, is that of filling the scars with liquid injectable silicone, which provides excellent, natural-looking results. There are some types of acne scars which require other treatment modalities as well, such as what we call light electrodessication (light burning of the ridges of the scars to flatten them out) and chemical peeling treatments. Some doctors use lasers for acne scarring but I do not feel there is much improvement with lasers.

Summer time is an absolutely fine time to have treatments. However, if the scars are severe, usually patients need a few treatments, with the treatments spaced about 3-4 weeks apart. However, we can usually achieve significant improvement with 1-2 treatments. In the case of liquid injectable silicone, there is no downtime and therefore no recovery time.
If you havent already, please take a look at our photos of acne scar treatments on our website:

http://www.barnettdermatology.com/treatments

Click on "ACNE SCARS" on the left column under "LIQUID INJECTABLE SILICONE"

Channing Barnett

And one more special qute from her 2nd email:

As I mentioned, 99% of doctors worldwide do not use liquid injectable silicone, which in my opinion is a mistake. It is the ideal treatment for certain type of acne scars and is precise and PERMANENT.

I must really say that I'm very incouraged by this attitude and her professionalism and fast answers. I really consider going to NY during summer college break to do this procedure now.

[Adam128]

The pictures look really great, but she does not use Microdroplet Silicone technique! Only 1-2 treatments? While Dr. lam does 3-5 treatments via MDS technique. So, the long term results does not look very safe in her hands. And this Dr. Channing looks really young. Not only that, shes only a derm, not a PS! That matters to me a lot, because when shit goes wrong, can you expect a derm to fix their shit? Nope. Just leave it to the PS's.

Thus, I'm with Dr. lam all the way. Regardless of the pictures on his website. Look at our boy Dave here, awesome results but not on Lam's website! Imagine how many more success stories not even posted.

Note: Some of Dr. Channing's pictures are not just silicone itself, but they are combined with other treatments like lasers. You can see there is some skin tightening and a bit of swelling, a little burning left after a typical laser. Her after pictures were taken minutes after the treatments, lol. Why do we want to see that, right? When Dr. lam posts his pictures, there's no bs. If he says 3 rounds of silicone, it means only 3 rounds of silicone. Nothing else, no laser, no tca, after a certain amount of time, and most importantly no swelling! Everyone here should reconsider Dr. Lam's picture standards.

[Marko_MNE]

can you tell me what is the difference between the 2 treatments, one offered by Dr Lam and one offered by Dr Channing.

btw, I have received e-brochure with info on treatment aswell as with pictures 15-30 years post treatment....this looks promissing...if it is to be judged on before/afters.

[easymoney]

dr lam seems like a caring and well respected dr. but people who have went to him and had tca or silicone , said they seemed rushed. just a thought but he might be wanting to do more rounds of silicone , to make more money , where dr channing does the same work in 1 or 2 rounds. i dont know if here before and after are doctored., but they do look 1000 percent better than dr lams. has anybody went to dr channing and received the results anywhere near the photos.

[Marko_MNE]

i am really considering on visiting her this summer, will probably do it...as I see, the only nice results i saw are hers , and it seems like a most logically treatment of acne scarring....

[Big-B]

I have had four sessions of microdroplet silicone with Doctor Sam Lam In Plano within the past six months to correct mild-to-moderate acne scarring on both cheeks and one deep acne scar high on my left cheek. I have had a steady improvement to all of my scars with the most significant improvement on the deep scar and with very good results on the remaining scars. I plan to Doctor Lam at least one-to-two more time to see if further correction can be provided for the deep scar.

I have tried many treatments for acne scarring and all were either very temporary (collagen injections) or made no noticeable difference (fraxel). Nine months ago I had no knowledge of microdroplet silicone and the permanent correction it provides. So I owe a great deal of thanks to those who have posted on this thread (especially ColdDave and drewboy) and shared their experience with microdroplet silicone. Your comments helped me to decide to give microdroplet silicone a try with Doctor Lam.

Doctor Lam is a great doc who tells it like it is, sets reasonable expectations and does not over-promise. I am very pleased with my results.

[kingziggy]

Really hoping to get this treatment. Didn't know about shiny scars but i guess thats better than rolling and icepick ones? visit me at lifewithacnescars dot blogspot if you want.

you should post some pictures from your scarring. lots of us have gone through scar revisions and can point you in good directions.

Here are some of my pictures, the scarring are almost gone, I had craters before but now the shiny scarring really bother me a lot. Like I said in certain light the shiny scars are more obvious.In this pictures arent 2 obvious but you can tell that I have shiny scarring in the cheek area.
BTW with makeup the shiny are more obvious, dont know why?? because the dr told me to try to covered with makeup but not even with dermablend I can cover it wich is the best fundation for scarring and hypermentation!

Need help for shiny scars!!!

badkitty,

how deep were your two scars because i have 2 scars on my forehead that dr. lam said were too shallow to do the silicone and basically told me that it wouldn't work. doesn't look like yours were to deep to begin with either do you think your dr. can help me?

if i can get the improvement you got i would be ecstatic. please any info. would be very helpful

kingziggy

[Adam128]

I have had four sessions of microdroplet silicone with Doctor Sam Lam In Plano within the past six months to correct mild-to-moderate acne scarring on both cheeks and one deep acne scar high on my left cheek. I have had a steady improvement to all of my scars with the most significant improvement on the deep scar and with very good results on the remaining scars. I plan to Doctor Lam at least one-to-two more time to see if further correction can be provided for the deep scar.

I have tried many treatments for acne scarring and all were either very temporary (collagen injections) or made no noticeable difference (fraxel). Nine months ago I had no knowledge of microdroplet silicone and the permanent correction it provides. So I owe a great deal of thanks to those who have posted on this thread (especially ColdDave and drewboy) and shared their experience with microdroplet silicone. Your comments helped me to decide to give microdroplet silicone a try with Doctor Lam.

Doctor Lam is a great doc who tells it like it is, sets reasonable expectations and does not over-promise. I am very pleased with my results.

How much results, if any, did you see after your first treatment? And how many treatments did Dr. Lam originally recommend you when you had your first consult? I am flying down to Texas in March!!!! I am so excited!

[kingziggy]

I have had four sessions of microdroplet silicone with Doctor Sam Lam In Plano within the past six months to correct mild-to-moderate acne scarring on both cheeks and one deep acne scar high on my left cheek. I have had a steady improvement to all of my scars with the most significant improvement on the deep scar and with very good results on the remaining scars. I plan to Doctor Lam at least one-to-two more time to see if further correction can be provided for the deep scar.

I have tried many treatments for acne scarring and all were either very temporary (collagen injections) or made no noticeable difference (fraxel). Nine months ago I had no knowledge of microdroplet silicone and the permanent correction it provides. So I owe a great deal of thanks to those who have posted on this thread (especially ColdDave and drewboy) and shared their experience with microdroplet silicone. Your comments helped me to decide to give microdroplet silicone a try with Doctor Lam.

Doctor Lam is a great doc who tells it like it is, sets reasonable expectations and does not over-promise. I am very pleased with my results.

How much results, if any, did you see after your first treatment? And how many treatments did Dr. Lam originally recommend you when you had your first consult? I am flying down to Texas in March!!!! I am so excited!

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[Big-B]

I have had four sessions of microdroplet silicone with Doctor Sam Lam In Plano within the past six months to correct mild-to-moderate acne scarring on both cheeks and one deep acne scar high on my left cheek. I have had a steady improvement to all of my scars with the most significant improvement on the deep scar and with very good results on the remaining scars. I plan to Doctor Lam at least one-to-two more time to see if further correction can be provided for the deep scar.

I have tried many treatments for acne scarring and all were either very temporary (collagen injections) or made no noticeable difference (fraxel). Nine months ago I had no knowledge of microdroplet silicone and the permanent correction it provides. So I owe a great deal of thanks to those who have posted on this thread (especially ColdDave and drewboy) and shared their experience with microdroplet silicone. Your comments helped me to decide to give microdroplet silicone a try with Doctor Lam.

Doctor Lam is a great doc who tells it like it is, sets reasonable expectations and does not over-promise. I am very pleased with my results.

How much results, if any, did you see after your first treatment? And how many treatments did Dr. Lam originally recommend you when you had your first consult? I am flying down to Texas in March!!!! I am so excited!

Adam128,
Dr. Lam estimated that I would need 3-4 treatments at the start. He explained that more might be possible but each treatment produces less incremental benefit. In my case. I saw pretty substantial benefit form the first two treatments with the 2nd treatment providng more benefit than the first. The third and fourth treatments have produced less incremental benefit than the first two. As I mentioned I have an appointment (early March) to see Doctor Lam for a possible 5th treatment. He will examine my skin let me know whether it can be done. Doctor Lam has told me that the goal is to build the underlying acne scar as close as possible to the level of the good skin aroiund it but not to overfill (the results are permanent so you don't want a permanent bump due to overfilling).

The first three treatments were done in Jun, Jul, and Aug 2009. Doctor Lam recommeneded delaying Treatment 4 until October (as I recall, this delay was to allow the collagen to fully develop arround the silicone droplets) and Treatment 5 if it happens will be about five months after Treatment 4. (While Doctor Lam thought this delay was good it was also my preference to avoid travelling into Dallas during the peak winter months).

Each of my treatments has been $700.

All of the best to you. I think you have made a great decision to see Doctor Lam

[badkitty]

Hello everybody!
Sorry for the delay on replying back, I been kinda hectic lately
H8rtbrokn; ylem; kingziggy:

I put some pictures from before I haved the silikon injection procedure. I haved before 4 rolling scar very deep the biggest scar was almost 5mm length and very deep in my right cheek and 3 the other 3 was around 3mm length and just a lil less deep than the biggest one in the right cheek. I haved also 3 icepick and 2 box scar. But I have many others procedure before silikon injections such as 2 dermabration, tca cross, a few subcision, 3 plasma laser portrait just 2 mention a few. The only treatment that helped me the most are the silikon injections that has level up the scarring with the rest of the skin.

Kingziggy
If you dont live in Fl then I suggest you to send an email to dr. Barry I. Resnik and ask before you go.


Tricia
Thanks for the advice with the yellow concealer it help me for the smaller scarring, the biggest scarring still shining a lot but help me somewhat in the biggest.I think the biggest scar shine more because as you said the lacking of tissue and the more deep the scars are more obvious when get push the tissue up to the surface is more noticeble. Im gona keep using reting a I just bought maximun strength pure retinol 1.0% because I been using .1% for 2 years so my skin get use to it. I heard silikon sheet help not shure about it I also started to use it a week ago I use it every night.

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[myskin_2008]

Your skin looks amazing now! Congratulation

Hello everybody!
Sorry for the delay on replying back, I been kinda hectic lately
H8rtbrokn; ylem; kingziggy:

I put some pictures from before I haved the silikon injection procedure. I haved before 4 rolling scar very deep the biggest scar was almost 5mm length and very deep in my right cheek and 3 the other 3 was around 3mm length and just a lil less deep than the biggest one in the right cheek. I haved also 3 icepick and 2 box scar. But I have many others procedure before silikon injections such as 2 dermabration, tca cross, a few subcision, 3 plasma laser portrait just 2 mention a few. The only treatment that helped me the most are the silikon injections that has level up the scarring with the rest of the skin.

Kingziggy
If you dont live in Fl then I suggest you to send an email to dr. Barry I. Resnik and ask before you go.


Tricia
Thanks for the advice with the yellow concealer it help me for the smaller scarring, the biggest scarring still shining a lot but help me somewhat in the biggest.I think the biggest scar shine more because as you said the lacking of tissue and the more deep the scars are more obvious when get push the tissue up to the surface is more noticeble. Im gona keep using reting a I just bought maximun strength pure retinol 1.0% because I been using .1% for 2 years so my skin get use to it. I heard silikon sheet help not shure about it I also started to use it a week ago I use it every night.

[Marko_MNE]

this is real encouragment badkitty, thanx for posting this. now I am even more determined to have this procedure done.

[coconutz82]

I don't normally post on here but decided to reply when I saw this topic. I've been researching this technique for awhile and am interested in seeing Dr. Channing Barnett. If all goes well, I hope to see her for a consultation in the next few weeks...I'd like to get these scars taken care of ASAP before summer begins.

If I decide to proceed, I'll be sure to post some before pics and document my progress (fingers crossed). At this point, even a 50% improvement in my scars would have me ecstatic!

[Adam128]

I don't normally post on here but decided to reply when I saw this topic. I've been researching this technique for awhile and am interested in seeing Dr. Channing Barnett. If all goes well, I hope to see her for a consultation in the next few weeks...I'd like to get these scars taken care of ASAP before summer begins.

If I decide to proceed, I'll be sure to post some before pics and document my progress (fingers crossed). At this point, even a 50% improvement in my scars would have me ecstatic!

What technique? She does not use the Microdroplet Silicone technique! It looks like she just fills in as much silicone as possible, and that is very risky for long term IMO. Please do your research. This thread is about the MDS technique performed by Dr. Lam. And all of Dr. Channing's patient photos look like they are still in the swelling stage after a typical laser.

[Marko_MNE]

I don't normally post on here but decided to reply when I saw this topic. I've been researching this technique for awhile and am interested in seeing Dr. Channing Barnett. If all goes well, I hope to see her for a consultation in the next few weeks...I'd like to get these scars taken care of ASAP before summer begins.

If I decide to proceed, I'll be sure to post some before pics and document my progress (fingers crossed). At this point, even a 50% improvement in my scars would have me ecstatic!

What technique? She does not use the Microdroplet Silicone technique! It looks like she just fills in as much silicone as possible, and that is very risky for long term IMO. Please do your research. This thread is about the MDS technique performed by Dr. Lam. And all of Dr. Channing's patient photos look like they are still in the swelling stage after a typical laser.

mate , I asked you above to please tell difference between microdoplet and micro injections that dr Channing uses. I am not trying to defend her or anything, i just say that her 30 year after photos look great, without any side effects. and they are pioneers in this technique (she and her father), so why doubt them?

[ROTY01]

I don't normally post on here but decided to reply when I saw this topic. I've been researching this technique for awhile and am interested in seeing Dr. Channing Barnett. If all goes well, I hope to see her for a consultation in the next few weeks...I'd like to get these scars taken care of ASAP before summer begins.

If I decide to proceed, I'll be sure to post some before pics and document my progress (fingers crossed). At this point, even a 50% improvement in my scars would have me ecstatic!

What technique? She does not use the Microdroplet Silicone technique! It looks like she just fills in as much silicone as possible, and that is very risky for long term IMO. Please do your research. This thread is about the MDS technique performed by Dr. Lam. And all of Dr. Channing's patient photos look like they are still in the swelling stage after a typical laser.

From what I have heard Dr. Barnett is a pioneer in micro silicone injections, and even my derm in a different state mentioned them when I visited. This thread isn't only about Dr. Lam, it's about the procedure in general. I highly doubt they fill in scars with as much silicone as possible, no professional is that ignorant. And they even say on their site that they use micro injections and patients don't get desired results after 1 treatment. Anyways I looked at the photos and they look nothing like swelling from laser treatment. Most of those photos were final results and one was immediately after the injections which typically does cause slight swelling for several days but nothing like lasers where you can't go out in public. So maybe you are the one who should do your research before answering other peoples questions.

[Adam128]

I don't normally post on here but decided to reply when I saw this topic. I've been researching this technique for awhile and am interested in seeing Dr. Channing Barnett. If all goes well, I hope to see her for a consultation in the next few weeks...I'd like to get these scars taken care of ASAP before summer begins.

If I decide to proceed, I'll be sure to post some before pics and document my progress (fingers crossed). At this point, even a 50% improvement in my scars would have me ecstatic!

What technique? She does not use the Microdroplet Silicone technique! It looks like she just fills in as much silicone as possible, and that is very risky for long term IMO. Please do your research. This thread is about the MDS technique performed by Dr. Lam. And all of Dr. Channing's patient photos look like they are still in the swelling stage after a typical laser.

From what I have heard Dr. Barnett is a pioneer in micro silicone injections, and even my derm in a different state mentioned them when I visited. This thread isn't only about Dr. Lam, it's about the procedure in general. I highly doubt they fill in scars with as much silicone as possible, no professional is that ignorant. And they even say on their site that they use micro injections and patients don't get desired results after 1 treatment. Anyways I looked at the photos and they look nothing like swelling from laser treatment. Most of those photos were final results and one was immediately after the injections which typically does cause slight swelling for several days but nothing like lasers where you can't go out in public. So maybe you are the one who should do your research before answering other peoples questions.

Oh sorry, I didn’t bother looking at the rest of her website after looking at those trashy photos. Are you saying that silicone itself was responsible for all 6 of those results as you see on the acne scar page, and without any help from any other treatment? *caugh* Laser. I didn’t know that silicone can burn your skin like that in the 6th photo, or make your skin plastic-like in the 4th, or even completely turn your face red in the first. Excuse my ignorance.

[hiclub2]

did any one try Dr. Mitchel P Goldman for the injection? in SD

Edited by hiclub2, 02 March 2010 - 01:08 AM.