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[treefeet]

Animal foods- Don't remove the fat from meat, don't remove the yolks from eggs, don't remove the fat from milk. Get unpasteurized, non-homogenized milk if you can. Don't limit yourself to only muscle meats, the organ meats are by far the most nutritious part of the animal. Eat wild game if you can, if not try to find grass-fed, pasture raised meat. Don't avoid saturated fat and cholesterol, our bodies have been consuming these substances for millions of years and we are well adapted to them.

Vegetables- tubers, roots, leafy greens; the more the merrier. Many vegetables are more easily absorbed by the body when they have been cooked and had fat added to them. Raw veggies aren't necessarily better for you, they are the hardest for the body to digest and absorb.

Fruit - Eat it sparingly as it would have been consumed throughout human evolution. Small tart fruit like berries, crabapples, etc. would have been the norm. Huge Fuji apples and other sugary fruits are not in their natural state, they have been bread and genetically modified to look the way they do today.

Grains- don't eat them. They must be processed and refined to be edible. If you ate a grain in it's natural state you would be eating a seed. Grains have only made up a significant part of our diet for the last 10,000 years, which is "coincidentally" when all diseases of civilization began to arise (including acne). Our bodies are not equipped to handle this amount of starch, not to mention the gluten and anti-nutrients.

Vegetable oils- avoid them like the plague. They are toxic to our systems. Polyunsaturated oils are very susceptible to oxidation in the body. Saturated fats on the other hand are very stable and do not oxidize inside the body.

More important than your macro nutrient ratio, is the quality of the food you are eating. Choose food that would have been consumed thousands, if not millions of years ago. Don't eat food that sits in a colorful box on a shelf.

I see people here all the time asking "what can I eat"? I'm hoping this will help some people. It doesn't have to be complicated and restrictive. Real food tastes delicious.

Just my 2c

[I am Snow]

Animal foods- Don't remove the fat from meat, don't remove the yolks from eggs, don't remove the fat from milk. Get unpasteurized, non-homogenized milk if you can. Don't limit yourself to only muscle meats, the organ meats are by far the most nutritious part of the animal. Eat wild game if you can, if not try to find grassed, pasture raised meat. Don't avoid saturated fat and cholesterol, our bodies have been consuming these substances for millions of years and we are well adapted to them.

Vegetables- tubers, roots, leafy greens; the more the merrier. Many vegetables are more easily absorbed by the body when they have been cooked and had fat added to them. Raw veggies aren't necessarily better for you, they are the hardest for the body to digest and absorb.

Fruit - Eat it sparingly as it would have been consumed throughout human evolution. Small tart fruit like berries, crabapples, etc. would have been the norm. Huge Fuji apples and other sugary fruits are not in their natural state, they have been bread and genetically modified to look the way they do today.

Grains- don't eat them. They must be processed and refined to be edible. If you ate a grain in it's natural state you would be eating a seed. Grains have only made up a significant part of our diet for the last 10,000 years, which is "coincidentally" when all diseases of civilization began to arise. Our bodies are not equipped to handle this amount of starch, not to mention the gluten and anti-nutrients.

Vegetable oils- avoid them like the plague. They are toxic to our systems. Polyunsaturated oils are very susceptible to oxidation in the body. Saturated fats on the other hand are very stable and do not oxidize inside the body.

More important than your macro nutrient ratio, is the quality of the food you are eating. Choose food that would have been consumed thousands, if not millions of years ago. Don't eat food that sits in a colorful box on a shelf.

I see people here all the time asking "what can I eat"? I'm hoping this will help some people. It doesn't have to be complicated and restrictive. Real food tastes delicious.

Just my 2c

What a great 2 cents man.

Great post.

[EddieE]

Animal foods- Don't remove the fat from meat, don't remove the yolks from eggs, don't remove the fat from milk. Get unpasteurized, non-homogenized milk if you can. Don't limit yourself to only muscle meats, the organ meats are by far the most nutritious part of the animal. Eat wild game if you can, if not try to find grassed, pasture raised meat. Don't avoid saturated fat and cholesterol, our bodies have been consuming these substances for millions of years and we are well adapted to them.

Vegetables- tubers, roots, leafy greens; the more the merrier. Many vegetables are more easily absorbed by the body when they have been cooked and had fat added to them. Raw veggies aren't necessarily better for you, they are the hardest for the body to digest and absorb.

Fruit - Eat it sparingly as it would have been consumed throughout human evolution. Small tart fruit like berries, crabapples, etc. would have been the norm. Huge Fuji apples and other sugary fruits are not in their natural state, they have been bread and genetically modified to look the way they do today.

Grains- don't eat them. They must be processed and refined to be edible. If you ate a grain in it's natural state you would be eating a seed. Grains have only made up a significant part of our diet for the last 10,000 years, which is "coincidentally" when all diseases of civilization began to arise. Our bodies are not equipped to handle this amount of starch, not to mention the gluten and anti-nutrients.

Vegetable oils- avoid them like the plague. They are toxic to our systems. Polyunsaturated oils are very susceptible to oxidation in the body. Saturated fats on the other hand are very stable and do not oxidize inside the body.

More important than your macro nutrient ratio, is the quality of the food you are eating. Choose food that would have been consumed thousands, if not millions of years ago. Don't eat food that sits in a colorful box on a shelf.

I see people here all the time asking "what can I eat"? I'm hoping this will help some people. It doesn't have to be complicated and restrictive. Real food tastes delicious.

Just my 2c

What a great 2 cents man.


Great post.

Thx I decided to add more foods in my diet

Like cows milk ( a good brand ) might get organic.

red meats gonna have to order a grass fed red meat... can't find it here.

Gonna buy more healthy foods

Brown rice with beans is good riight

[jbrown]

Animal foods- Don't remove the fat from meat, don't remove the yolks from eggs, don't remove the fat from milk. Get unpasteurized, non-homogenized milk if you can. Don't limit yourself to only muscle meats, the organ meats are by far the most nutritious part of the animal. Eat wild game if you can, if not try to find grass-fed, pasture raised meat. Don't avoid saturated fat and cholesterol, our bodies have been consuming these substances for millions of years and we are well adapted to them.

Vegetables- tubers, roots, leafy greens; the more the merrier. Many vegetables are more easily absorbed by the body when they have been cooked and had fat added to them. Raw veggies aren't necessarily better for you, they are the hardest for the body to digest and absorb.

Fruit - Eat it sparingly as it would have been consumed throughout human evolution. Small tart fruit like berries, crabapples, etc. would have been the norm. Huge Fuji apples and other sugary fruits are not in their natural state, they have been bread and genetically modified to look the way they do today.

Grains- don't eat them. They must be processed and refined to be edible. If you ate a grain in it's natural state you would be eating a seed. Grains have only made up a significant part of our diet for the last 10,000 years, which is "coincidentally" when all diseases of civilization began to arise. Our bodies are not equipped to handle this amount of starch, not to mention the gluten and anti-nutrients.

Vegetable oils- avoid them like the plague. They are toxic to our systems. Polyunsaturated oils are very susceptible to oxidation in the body. Saturated fats on the other hand are very stable and do not oxidize inside the body.

More important than your macro nutrient ratio, is the quality of the food you are eating. Choose food that would have been consumed thousands, if not millions of years ago. Don't eat food that sits in a colorful box on a shelf.

I see people here all the time asking "what can I eat"? I'm hoping this will help some people. It doesn't have to be complicated and restrictive. Real food tastes delicious.

Just my 2c

great post, i agree.

Animal foods- Don't remove the fat from meat, don't remove the yolks from eggs, don't remove the fat from milk. Get unpasteurized, non-homogenized milk if you can. Don't limit yourself to only muscle meats, the organ meats are by far the most nutritious part of the animal. Eat wild game if you can, if not try to find grassed, pasture raised meat. Don't avoid saturated fat and cholesterol, our bodies have been consuming these substances for millions of years and we are well adapted to them.

Vegetables- tubers, roots, leafy greens; the more the merrier. Many vegetables are more easily absorbed by the body when they have been cooked and had fat added to them. Raw veggies aren't necessarily better for you, they are the hardest for the body to digest and absorb.

Fruit - Eat it sparingly as it would have been consumed throughout human evolution. Small tart fruit like berries, crabapples, etc. would have been the norm. Huge Fuji apples and other sugary fruits are not in their natural state, they have been bread and genetically modified to look the way they do today.

Grains- don't eat them. They must be processed and refined to be edible. If you ate a grain in it's natural state you would be eating a seed. Grains have only made up a significant part of our diet for the last 10,000 years, which is "coincidentally" when all diseases of civilization began to arise. Our bodies are not equipped to handle this amount of starch, not to mention the gluten and anti-nutrients.

Vegetable oils- avoid them like the plague. They are toxic to our systems. Polyunsaturated oils are very susceptible to oxidation in the body. Saturated fats on the other hand are very stable and do not oxidize inside the body.

More important than your macro nutrient ratio, is the quality of the food you are eating. Choose food that would have been consumed thousands, if not millions of years ago. Don't eat food that sits in a colorful box on a shelf.

I see people here all the time asking "what can I eat"? I'm hoping this will help some people. It doesn't have to be complicated and restrictive. Real food tastes delicious.

Just my 2c

What a great 2 cents man.


Great post.

Thx I decided to add more foods in my diet

Like cows milk ( a good brand ) might get organic.

red meats gonna have to order a grass fed red meat... can't find it here.

Gonna buy more healthy foods

Brown rice with beans is good riight

Brown rice is good, but not too much. Be careful. Same with beans, legumes. Moderated accordingly.

[EddieE]

Animal foods- Don't remove the fat from meat, don't remove the yolks from eggs, don't remove the fat from milk. Get unpasteurized, non-homogenized milk if you can. Don't limit yourself to only muscle meats, the organ meats are by far the most nutritious part of the animal. Eat wild game if you can, if not try to find grass-fed, pasture raised meat. Don't avoid saturated fat and cholesterol, our bodies have been consuming these substances for millions of years and we are well adapted to them.

Vegetables- tubers, roots, leafy greens; the more the merrier. Many vegetables are more easily absorbed by the body when they have been cooked and had fat added to them. Raw veggies aren't necessarily better for you, they are the hardest for the body to digest and absorb.

Fruit - Eat it sparingly as it would have been consumed throughout human evolution. Small tart fruit like berries, crabapples, etc. would have been the norm. Huge Fuji apples and other sugary fruits are not in their natural state, they have been bread and genetically modified to look the way they do today.

Grains- don't eat them. They must be processed and refined to be edible. If you ate a grain in it's natural state you would be eating a seed. Grains have only made up a significant part of our diet for the last 10,000 years, which is "coincidentally" when all diseases of civilization began to arise. Our bodies are not equipped to handle this amount of starch, not to mention the gluten and anti-nutrients.

Vegetable oils- avoid them like the plague. They are toxic to our systems. Polyunsaturated oils are very susceptible to oxidation in the body. Saturated fats on the other hand are very stable and do not oxidize inside the body.

More important than your macro nutrient ratio, is the quality of the food you are eating. Choose food that would have been consumed thousands, if not millions of years ago. Don't eat food that sits in a colorful box on a shelf.

I see people here all the time asking "what can I eat"? I'm hoping this will help some people. It doesn't have to be complicated and restrictive. Real food tastes delicious.

Just my 2c

great post, i agree.

Animal foods- Don't remove the fat from meat, don't remove the yolks from eggs, don't remove the fat from milk. Get unpasteurized, non-homogenized milk if you can. Don't limit yourself to only muscle meats, the organ meats are by far the most nutritious part of the animal. Eat wild game if you can, if not try to find grassed, pasture raised meat. Don't avoid saturated fat and cholesterol, our bodies have been consuming these substances for millions of years and we are well adapted to them.

Vegetables- tubers, roots, leafy greens; the more the merrier. Many vegetables are more easily absorbed by the body when they have been cooked and had fat added to them. Raw veggies aren't necessarily better for you, they are the hardest for the body to digest and absorb.

Fruit - Eat it sparingly as it would have been consumed throughout human evolution. Small tart fruit like berries, crabapples, etc. would have been the norm. Huge Fuji apples and other sugary fruits are not in their natural state, they have been bread and genetically modified to look the way they do today.

Grains- don't eat them. They must be processed and refined to be edible. If you ate a grain in it's natural state you would be eating a seed. Grains have only made up a significant part of our diet for the last 10,000 years, which is "coincidentally" when all diseases of civilization began to arise. Our bodies are not equipped to handle this amount of starch, not to mention the gluten and anti-nutrients.

Vegetable oils- avoid them like the plague. They are toxic to our systems. Polyunsaturated oils are very susceptible to oxidation in the body. Saturated fats on the other hand are very stable and do not oxidize inside the body.

More important than your macro nutrient ratio, is the quality of the food you are eating. Choose food that would have been consumed thousands, if not millions of years ago. Don't eat food that sits in a colorful box on a shelf.

I see people here all the time asking "what can I eat"? I'm hoping this will help some people. It doesn't have to be complicated and restrictive. Real food tastes delicious.

Just my 2c

What a great 2 cents man.


Great post.

Thx I decided to add more foods in my diet

Like cows milk ( a good brand ) might get organic.

red meats gonna have to order a grass fed red meat... can't find it here.

Gonna buy more healthy foods

Brown rice with beans is good riight

Brown rice is good, but not too much. Be careful. Same with beans, legumes. Moderated accordingly.

K thx gonna wait a bit. cause dang i was SO clear for 2 weeks.. now acne are back
if still always breaking out. will eat brown rice!@ ^^

[cleanse2008]

This is an excellent post, and I agree totally. I especially liked this part, and I think it is key in establishing a diet:

"More important than your macro nutrient ratio, is the quality of the food you are eating. Choose food that would have been consumed thousands, if not millions of years ago. Don't eat food that sits in a colorful box on a shelf. "

[lollypolly]

The title of your post is misleading

If you were indeed 'Eat[ing] real food in it's natural state'

Why cook the meat?
Why cook the veg?

That is altering it's natural state.

You refer to "choose food that would have been consumed thousands, if not millions of years ago" - Fair enough but thousands and yes indeedy millions of years ago there weren't no cookers so it would've been raw baby!

I agree with other bits, coloured boxes and such like although I sprout grains and they are tasterrific

[valo_123]

Yeah, I'd like to meet the person that can't appreciate a big raw piece of chicken or fish.

[lollypolly]

Yeah, I'd like to meet the person that can't appreciate a big raw piece of chicken or fish.

Yeah I would too I'm guessing there isn't a meat eater on this site with the balls to pick up a chicken, slit its throat and start munching the way nature intended lol yuk

These people a thousand, oh no, a million years ago would be pissing themselves laughing

[r3m3dy]

fire has always been around...

[cleanse2008]

"but thousands and yes indeedy millions of years ago there weren't no cookers so it would've been raw baby! "

Actually, Lollypolly, the above statement is not entirely true, although there was not cookers in the modern sense, humans have been, reportedly, cooking their food for around 500,000 to 800, 000 years ago. Some say approximately, 1.9 million years ago :http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/08/990810064914.htm

I think that's what the original poster was referring to. Also in terms of food in its natural state. I take the rule of preferring cooked chicken (roasted/grilled etc) rather than processed chicken nuggets. I will eat cooked sweet potatoes, rather than potato chips. Trying to eat food as close to their natural state as possible.

On another note, with regards to grains and legumes, I occassionally eat small portion of whole grain brown or red rice, and have yet to experience the negative effects of white refined rice. Is whole grain rice really considered processed food? it has not been through the milling process that removes the husk and valuable nutrients, its nutritional properties are intact and unrefined. So, I do eat this in small quantities, occassionally.

I think when you say this:

"Grains- don't eat them. They must be processed and refined to be edible. If you ate a grain in it's natural state you would be eating a seed. Grains have only made up a significant part of our diet for the last 10,000 years, which is "coincidentally" when all diseases of civilization began to arise. Our bodies are not equipped to handle this amount of starch, not to mention the gluten and anti-nutrients."

That mainly applies to refined, white-rusk which has been through the milling process. However, I don't think wholegrains fit this category. Nonetheless, I still eat it in moderation.

[I hate redspots]

The title of your post is misleading

If you were indeed 'Eat[ing] real food in it's natural state'

Why cook the meat?
Why cook the veg?

That is altering it's natural state.

You refer to "choose food that would have been consumed thousands, if not millions of years ago" - Fair enough but thousands and yes indeedy millions of years ago there weren't no cookers so it would've been raw baby!

I agree with other bits, coloured boxes and such like although I sprout grains and they are tasterrific

Oh ffs there were no cookers of course but there were these miracles called FIRES.

People have cooked for millenia. Why do you think our guts cannot cope with large amounts of raw meats? We have evolved away from that. There is nothing 'unnatural' about cooking OR WE WOULDNT FUCKING DO IT.

Peoples diets millions of years ago are completely irrelevant to now. So we started eating grains 10000 years ago. Have you any idea how many generations that is? Our digestion system has no doubt evolved during that time. It doesn't take millions of years for a change like some people seem to think. And people live longer now than the cavemen did. Why people obsess about these cavemen diets is beyond me.

[fiddler]

Eating real food (when you mean non-processed) is the best food there is, but instead of looking at a caveman diet i'd rather take a bodybuilders diet and cut some things out cuz they eat waaaay to much for my appetite.

Most bodybuilders eat a lot of cooked chicken and beef, also eggwhites are great. Rice is excellent for breakfast (together with some more things) it will provide you with quick carbohydrates.

But nowadays unless you have some chicken in ur garden which u kill everyday it's pretty damn hard to find REAL food. Did you know a chicken that had a free life takes about one hour and a half to cook! When you buy one in the supermarket youre done within 10 minutes. So REAL food is a little unreal nowadays.

[lollypolly]

The title of your post is misleading

If you were indeed 'Eat[ing] real food in it's natural state'

Why cook the meat?
Why cook the veg?

That is altering it's natural state.

You refer to "choose food that would have been consumed thousands, if not millions of years ago" - Fair enough but thousands and yes indeedy millions of years ago there weren't no cookers so it would've been raw baby!

I agree with other bits, coloured boxes and such like although I sprout grains and they are tasterrific

Oh ffs there were no cookers of course but there were these miracles called FIRES.

People have cooked for millenia. Why do you think our guts cannot cope with large amounts of raw meats? We have evolved away from that. There is nothing 'unnatural' about cooking OR WE WOULDNT FUCKING DO IT.

How do you know that fire was used to cook meat and not just to keep warm?

"Why do you think our guts cannot cope with large amounts of raw meats?" - er, cos we're not supposed to eat it in the first place??

ffs - love it!

[Glass Danse]

The title of your post is misleading

If you were indeed 'Eat[ing] real food in it's natural state'

Why cook the meat?
Why cook the veg?

That is altering it's natural state.

You refer to "choose food that would have been consumed thousands, if not millions of years ago" - Fair enough but thousands and yes indeedy millions of years ago there weren't no cookers so it would've been raw baby!

I agree with other bits, coloured boxes and such like although I sprout grains and they are tasterrific

Oh ffs there were no cookers of course but there were these miracles called FIRES.

People have cooked for millenia. Why do you think our guts cannot cope with large amounts of raw meats? We have evolved away from that. There is nothing 'unnatural' about cooking OR WE WOULDNT FUCKING DO IT.

How do you know that fire was used to cook meat and not just to keep warm?

"Why do you think our guts cannot cope with large amounts of raw meats?" - er, cos we're not supposed to eat it in the first place??

ffs - love it!

Are you serious...

[OneLoveLetsGetTogether]

Grains- don't eat them. They must be processed and refined to be edible. If you ate a grain in it's natural state you would be eating a seed. Grains have only made up a significant part of our diet for the last 10,000 years, which is "coincidentally" when all diseases of civilization began to arise (including acne). Our bodies are not equipped to handle this amount of starch, not to mention the gluten and anti-nutrients.

Theres no real evidence of when acne actually started..come on now. Personally I can eat wheat stuff and get no breakouts (lucky I suppose). I dont think things like Brown Rice/Millet/Quinoa are as harmful as things like white bread or etc.

But great post I'm sure it will help a lot of people.

[OneLoveLetsGetTogether]

Seeds btw are healthy to eat. Seeds/nuts all that stuff..I didnt see that mentioned just thought I'd throw it in

[OneLoveLetsGetTogether]

Oh ffs there were no cookers of course but there were these miracles called FIRES.

People have cooked for millenia. Why do you think our guts cannot cope with large amounts of raw meats? We have evolved away from that. There is nothing 'unnatural' about cooking OR WE WOULDNT FUCKING DO IT.

Peoples diets millions of years ago are completely irrelevant to now. So we started eating grains 10000 years ago. Have you any idea how many generations that is? Our digestion system has no doubt evolved during that time. It doesn't take millions of years for a change like some people seem to think. And people live longer now than the cavemen did. Why people obsess about these cavemen diets is beyond me.

10000 is nowhere near long enough for natural selection to take place especially in a species like humans which have actually helped the weak throughout history. But because we have eaten it for so long I'm sure we have adapted somewhat its not like we're completely new to it.

When people talk about evolution btw they are talking about natural selection which is basically survival of the fittest. In a nutshell it is like saying a species is weeded out over not just a few hundred generations but millions of generations due to the slightest of slight differences which give them the slightest advantages. It does take as long (if not longer) than people seem to think.

Adaption however, does not take as long.

[JacJack]

Oh ffs there were no cookers of course but there were these miracles called FIRES.

People have cooked for millenia. Why do you think our guts cannot cope with large amounts of raw meats? We have evolved away from that. There is nothing 'unnatural' about cooking OR WE WOULDNT FUCKING DO IT.

Peoples diets millions of years ago are completely irrelevant to now. So we started eating grains 10000 years ago. Have you any idea how many generations that is? Our digestion system has no doubt evolved during that time. It doesn't take millions of years for a change like some people seem to think. And people live longer now than the cavemen did. Why people obsess about these cavemen diets is beyond me.

10000 is nowhere near long enough for natural selection to take place especially in a species like humans which have actually helped the weak throughout history. But because we have eaten it for so long I'm sure we have adapted somewhat its not like we're completely new to it.

When people talk about evolution btw they are talking about natural selection which is basically survival of the fittest. In a nutshell it is like saying a species is weeded out over not just a few hundred generations but millions of generations due to the slightest of slight differences which give them the slightest advantages. It does take as long (if not longer) than people seem to think.

Adaption however, does not take as long.

that's why we are supposed to sprout the grains before we eat it
RAW grains, seeds and nuts arent meant to be digested
simply put enough warm water to cover whatever raw grain/seed/nut u want to eat the day before cooking it
or even sprout the grain/seed for up to 4 days in the fudge and rinse them a few times daily
( though after u sprout them...u can eat them straight ahead without cooking )

[ryudoadema]

I agree completely with treefeet. Just cut the tubers and root veges and you got yourself a perfect candida diet as well. This site goes with everything you said and much more. You should check it out...