Finally after 10 years with acne, I am 100% clear with diet! Regimen included.
#181
Posted 18 May 2008 - 02:42 PM
#182
Posted 18 May 2008 - 07:21 PM
other than that, im uncertain about taking the other supplements, cause i really dont want a bad breakout. so im just sticking with olive & fish oil. and im pretty confident enough i get the right amount of nutrients, although maybe excessive amount of a certain vitamin might be doing the trick for you.
#183
Posted 18 May 2008 - 11:21 PM
Not at all
other than that, im uncertain about taking the other supplements, cause i really dont want a bad breakout. so im just sticking with olive & fish oil. and im pretty confident enough i get the right amount of nutrients, although maybe excessive amount of a certain vitamin might be doing the trick for you.
I can't gaurantee anything without the rest of the supplements, remember, this is a very important system. Especially the cod liver oil and zinc. Please take the cod liver oil, retinol is an absolute must. I really sincerely say that from experience. Retinol+zinc especially.
#184
Posted 18 May 2008 - 11:34 PM
Importance of Vitamin E Overview
Vitamin E deficiency relating to Zinc deficiency.
Vitamin E's importance for regulating vitamin A's efficiency.
Lack of Vitamin A's negative effect on Omega 3 supplements
Lack of Vitamin E's effect on curbing the oxidation process due to a lack of Vitamin A
Vitamin E's effect on restoring Vitamin A levels
Vitamin E's role in skin renewal for scars and blemishes
Vitamin E's role in preventing Arachidonic Acid's (bad omega 6 which fish oil helps to offset) effect in oxidation
Vitamin E's role in enhancing moisture level in the skin and prevention in aging
Research
Vitamin E protects cell membrane from damage. It helps to maintain healthy skin by eliminating harmful free radicals generated during cellular metabolism, with its antioxidant properties. Studies have shown that vitamin E may help skin recover from acne scarring and reduce the appearance of scars left by acne.
Vitamin E regulates the retinol level in humans. retinol, or commonly known as vitamin A, is essential for healthy skin, mucous membranes and proper vision. Decreases in retinol levels cause the oxidation of unsaturated fatty acids in the cell, which causes toxic effects in the cell. Vitamin E curbs this oxidation process and restores normal levels of retinal. The acne in both men and women improve with vitamin E treatment.
http://www.acne-resource.org/acne-skin-care/vitamin-e.html
Findings suggest that an inadequate intake of vitamin E results in a decreased absorption of omega-3.
http://www.stanford.edu/group/hopes/treatm...ntinflm/i5.html
Blood levels of vitamin E may also be decreased with zinc deficiency [11]
http://www.ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamine.asp#h2
Effects of inhibitors of arachidonic acid metabolism and vitamin E on oxygen radical-induced sister chromatid exchanges
Alan B. Weitberg
Division of Hematology/Oncology, Roger Williams Cancer Center 825 Chalkstone Avenue, Providence, RI 02908, USA
Oxidative damage to membranes initiates lipid peroxidation chain reactions and stimulation of the arachidonic acid cascade. The products of these reactions may mediate the genetic toxicity of oxygen radicals. Arachidonic acid alone induced sister chromatid exchange (SCE) formation and significantly augmented the genetic damage observed with an oxygen radical-generating system. The number of SCEs was reduced significantly in oxygen radical-treated Chinese hamster ovary cells incubated wtih inhibitors of the cyclo-oxygenase and lipoxygenase pathways. Vitamin E, when combined with inhibitors of arachidonic acid metabolism, protected target cells completely from oxygen radical-induced genotoxicity. These data support the hypothesis that lipid peroxidation intermediates may be involved in the genesis of radical-generated genetic lesions.
http://carcin.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/conte...tract/8/11/1619
Vitamin E is also a great anti-ageing source. As you age, your skin starts losing moisture and elasticity. Vitamin E fights these ageing effects and restores moisture in your skin.
It has also got sun-protective properties and prevents acne and scars
http://www.indiwo.com/india/features/diet-...lthy-you/7552/0
The saying, 'Vitamin E Zinc Acne' refers to the role of vitamin E and Zinc in the treatment or prevention of acne. These two are very beneficial in the prevention of acne. One thing to know about vitamin E is that, its deficiency does not cause any disease in the body, and its presence helps in maintaining healthy skin by eliminating the harmful free radicals, generated during cellular metabolism. It also helps in skin recovery from acne scarring. It reduces the appearance of scars due to Acne, as well. Retinol levels in the body are regulated by vitamin E, which is essential for healthy skin, mucous membrane and proper vision.
Vitamin E is related to vitamin A, as deficiency of vitamin E would lead to low levels of vitamin A in your body, as well. Also, vitamin E is essential for its interactions with Selenium, which is an important antioxidant trace mineral. So, acne can be diminished by the proper supplementation of vitamin E and Selenium in your diet.
http://www.acnetalks.com/pimple/Acne-Skinc...E-Zinc-Acne.htm
#185
Posted 18 May 2008 - 11:46 PM
http://healing.about.com/od/acne/a/acnevitamins.htm
Zinc works with the several proteins that are located throughout your body in order to create a support system for your body. Zinc is needed for cell division, in the growth and maintenance of muscles, for controlling oil glands, and is also required for the synthesis of protein and collagen - which is great for wound healing and a healthy skin.
http://blog.worldvillage.com/health/zinc_for_hair_loss.html
Zinc, necessary for vitamin E and vitamin A utilization
Zinc regulates proper levels of vitamin E in your blood and is essential for the absorption of vitamin A. It is required for protein synthesis and collagen (skin) formation. It promotes healing of wounds and boosts the immune system (so important when fighting off acne bacteria, especially cystic acne). Some evidence suggests it is also a powerful anti-oxidant (protects EFAs). It is also said to help regulate the activity of the skin's oil glands. Needless to say, it is very important in the prevention and elimination of acne.
Not only that, zinc is essential for proper growth, sexual maturation, involved in the action of insulin, growth hormone, testosterone, and estrogen (key nutrient in hormonal balance and utilization). It is also involved in more that 300 enzymatic reactions.
Zinc, Testosterone and Men's Health
Zinc is necessary to maintain normal serum testosterone. Inadequate zinc levels prevent the pituitary gland from releasing luteinizing and follicle stimulating hormones, which stimulate testosterone production.
Zinc also inhibits the aromatase enzyme that converts testosterone into excess estrogen. The testosterone to estrogen ratio in men declines with aging from a high of about 50:1 to half of that, or even a low of 10:1. Higher estrogen activity results in increasd risk of heart disease, weight gain, and obesity.
http://www.advance-health.com/zinc.html
Dietary supplements can help general prostate health. Make sure you get sufficient amounts of zinc and B vitamins. These nutrients regulate the enzyme that coverts testosterone to DHT.
http://www.aim4health.com/meworry.htm
Excess estrogen blocks testosterone
receptors and DHT becomes dominant. Fatty
tissue is loaded with aromatase enzymes that
convert testosterone to estrogen. The best
approach to combat estrogen dominance in
both men and women is to exercise, improve
diet and take nutritional supplements that
decrease estrogen production
zinc seems to exhibit the same properties and actions in one’s body. They both inhibit the 5-alpha reductase enzyme that converts testosterone into DHT (dihydrotestosterone).
http://www.sawpalmettofacts.com/saw-palmetto-and-zinc/
Hormone receptors in normal skin and acne.
Schmidt JB, Spona J.
Estrogen and androgen receptors were investigated in 55 male and 11 female volunteer patients with acne, the samples of efflorescence bearing skin and of normal skin being biopsied and kept frozen in liquid nitrogen until assayed. For the determination of androgen and estrogen receptors the saturation analysis was used. The level of testosterone and estradiol in blood was measured in the same patients with the aid of radioimmunoassay. As a control a skin of the same age was used. Of the male acne patients 52% were estrogen-receptor positive in the acne-lesions and 51% positive in their normal skin, while only 18% of the normal male controls were positive. Of the female acne patients 25% and 66% were estrogen receptor positive in their efflorescences and normal skin, respectively. Of the female normal controls 33% were estrogen receptor positive. No correlation could be demonstrated between the steroid receptor concentration and the hormone serum levels. The determination of androgen receptors showed a positive result in 50% of the male patients in the lesions and 60% in the normal skin. Normal male controls were androgen receptor positive in 27%. Of the female acne patients 25% were androgen receptor positive in the lesions and 17% in their normal skin. Of the female controls 23% were androgen receptor positive in the skin. It was concluded that the whole skin of acne patients has a higher target organ sensitivity than the skin of normal controls of same age. The missing correlation between hormone serum levels and receptor levels suggests an independent hormone-metabolism of the skin. The meaning of the occurrence of estrogen receptors in acne lesions and normal skin has to be further investigated.
PMID: 6224674 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?c...pt=AbstractPlus
No estrogen receptors could be found in the normal skin. Of the male and female acne patients 93 and 78%, respectively, were estrogen receptor-positive, and their levels were between 11 and 275 fmol/mg cytosol protein. On the other hand, 31 and 48%, respectively, of the male and female acne patients were androgen receptor-positive, and their receptor levels were between 35 and 213 fmol/mg cytosol protein.
PMID: 6448587 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
The results of the present investigation suggest that androgen receptor levels play an important role in acne patients with normal testosterone serum levels. In addition, the presence of estrogen receptor levels in acne patients indicates a possible therapy by anti-estrogens or estrogens.
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/s...ad.php?p=107290
If you're confused about the DHT thing, don't worry, it has to do with androgens and sebum production. It's a long discussion, but know that it's very complex and these supplements are necessary in more ways than you will ever know.
#186
Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:04 AM
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/1...journalCode=bjd
Zinc is important in the treatment of acne. It is involved in local hormone activation, retinol binding protein formation, wound healing, immune system activity, and tissue regeneration.
http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C288814.html
zinc stimulates cell division, healing, proper connective tissue formation, and increases the transport of Vitamin A from the liver to the skin, helping to protect body tissue from damage and repair any damage present.
http://www.advance-health.com/zinc.html#Zinc%20Deficiency
There are two sources of dietary vitamin A. Active forms, which are immediately available to the body are obtained from animal products. These are known as retinoids and include retinal and retinol. Precursors, also known as provitamins, which must be converted to active forms by the body, are obtained from fruits and vegetables containing yellow, orange and dark green pigments, known as carotenoids, the most well-known being beta-carotene. For this reason, amounts of vitamin A are measured in Retinal Equivalents (RE). One RE is equivalent to 0.001mg of retinal, or 0.006mg of beta-carotene, or 3.3 International Units of vitamin A.
In the intestine, vitamin A is protected from being chemically changed by vitamin E. Vitamin A is fat-soluble and can be stored in the body. Most of the vitamin A you eat is stored in the liver. When required by a particular part of the body, the liver releases some vitamin A, which is carried by the blood and delivered to the target cells and tissues
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retinol
“Vitamin A treatments, such as Retinol, have proved to be as effective as the original clinical tests showed. These actually renew the skin, by getting it to form collagen, thereby not only leading to a more youthful appearance, but also to the partial restoration of acne-scarred skin tissue,” according to Marais.
http://www.health24.com/medical/Condition_...-1529,12391.asp
Zinc
Zinc deficiency is thought to interfere with vitamin A metabolism in several ways: 1) Zinc deficiency results in decreased synthesis of retinol binding protein (RBP), which transports retinol through the circulation to tissues (e.g., the retina). 2) Zinc deficiency results in decreased activity of the enzyme that releases retinol from its storage form, retinyl palmitate, in the liver. 3) Zinc is required for the enzyme that converts retinol into retinal (8, 9). At present, the health consequences of zinc deficiency on vitamin A nutritional status in humans are unclear (10).
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminA/
Vitamin A (with carotenoids)
Vitamin A strengthens the protective tissue of the skin and prevents acne. It helps reduce sebum production. This vitamin is essential for the maintenance and repair of the tissue which the skin and mucous membranes are made of. Vitamin A is also a powerful antioxidant needed to rid your body of toxins. Did you know that a deficiency in vitamin A can actually cause acne? Recommended dosage to fight acne: 10,000 IU If you are pregnant, do not take more than 5000 IU.
http://healing.about.com/od/acne/a/acnevitamins.htm
#187
Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:24 AM
Cliffnotes:
Youth (puberty) = more androgens = more insulin = less SHBG = more acne.
Also talks about IGF-1 levels relating to Acne and how that affects your hormones. IGF-1 levels raised through dairy and insulin etc.
In case you don't know, this term will come a lot through the research. It's called hyperkeratinization. Basically during acne, there are two things produced in excess, kertain and sebum. Keratin is a sticky substance which hair made out of. Too much and it blocks sebum from coming out of the hair follicle where the sebum gland is. So keratin is that excess sticky substance and hyperkeratinization is the condition when too much keratin is produced, the first stage of acne.
http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C312465.html
Low levels (of SHBG) are often found in cases of acne vulgaris.
http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C655233.html
The way your body controls testosterone is quite complex, but involves a protein called Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG), and some testosterone present in the blood is 'free' and some is 'bound'. SHBG regulates the amount of testosterone which attaches to the androgen receptor of the cell
Lesson: More SHBG = Less test acting on androgen receptors = less sebum/acne/etc
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/newsletter-0507.aspx
It has been reported that women with high levels of sex hormone binding globulin - which reduces the activity of the sex hormones - were at decreased risk of breast cancer. The same study reported that women with the highest levels of estrogen and/or testosterone were twice as likely to develop breast cancer as those with the lowest levels. [Journal of the National Cancer Institute, 17th April 2002]
As the active component of glucose tolerance factor(GTF), chromium plays a fundamental role in controlling blood sugar levels. The primary function of GTF is to increase the action of insulin. Insulin is the hormone responsible for carrying sugar (glucose) into the cells where it can be used for energy.
After a meal, blood glucose levels begin to rise, and, in response, the pancreas secretes insulin. Insulin lowers blood glucose levels by increasing the rate in which glucose enters the cells. To accomplish this, insulin must be able to attach to receptors on the surface of cells. GTF is believed to initiate the attachment of insulin to the insulin receptors.
http://whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutri...=51#foodsources
There is also a stronger correlation in women between acne lesions and IGF-1 compared to androgens.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/537367_4
http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&...mp;#entry137492
As acne has been called ''skin diabetes,'' avoiding all sugars (even fake ones) can help. Grains and milk products can raise insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1), which raises both androgens and insulin, plus stimulates sebum and keratin. Special foods to use will be high in real vitamin A (eggs, organ meats, shell and other fish), vitamins C and E, plus the minerals selenium and zinc (the ''ACESZs''). I would add folate, niacinamide and chromium rich foods too.
Insulin to hormone to acne connection
Cordain et al (Archives of Dermatology 2002; 138: 1584-1590) have recently published a papers which hypothesises that a high Glycaemic Index (GI) diet combined with a high Glucose Load (GL) (as a result of a large serve of refined carbohydrates) may be linked to pimples and acne.
Pimples/acne is caused by the following sequence of events:
1. hyperkeratinization of the skin
2. obstruction of sebaceous (oil producing) follicles in the skin caused by an abnormal build-up of follicular cells
3. Increased sebum (oil) production
4. Colonization of the follicle by bacteria which thrive on the sebum and in turn cause inflammation
Diets with a high GL may result in acute or chronically elevated insulin levels which:
1. aggravate hyperkeratinization and build up of follicular cells by elevating levels of the insulin-like growth factor IGF-1 and by reducing levels of the insulin-like growth factor binding protein IGFBP-3.
2. activate a hormone sequence that increases the synthesis of androgens in the ovaries or testes. Higher levels of insulin, IGF-1 and androgens may then increase sebum production .
http://www.healthyeatingclub.com/info/arti...kin/pimples.htm
According to the lead researcher of a study conducted regarding the link between diet and acne, these foods result in acne breakouts due to an increase in insulin levels and insulin-like growth factor, or IGF-1. As a result of these rising hormones, referred to as a “hormonal cascade,” larger amounts of the male hormone testosterone are produced within the body. Like a domino effect, the overproduction of testosterone then leads to an overproduction of sebum within the body. Sebum has associated with the cause of acne for a number of years, as it blocks pores and then triggers acne.
http://www.absoluteacneinfo.com/diet/glycemic.html
"Sex hormone levels in men change during aging. These changes may be associated with insulin sensitivity and the metabolic syndrome."
http://www.newsrx.com/newsletters/Diabetes...05333117DW.html
In conclusion, these results indicate that in vivo, insulin is capable of stimulating testosterone production and, simultaneously, of inhibiting SHBG concentrations in both normal weight and obese men.
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/80/2/654
Chromium is an essential mineral that appears to have a beneficial role in the regulation of insulin action and its effects on carbohydrate, protein and lipid metabolism.
Chromium picolinate, specifically, has been shown to reduce insulin resistance
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?c...p;dopt=Citation
While your body makes insulin naturally, the mineral chromium is required to enable insulin and blood sugar to work its best.
What Happens if Your Insulin and Blood Sugar Gets Out of Whack?
If you aren’t getting enough chromium—one of the minerals that helps regulate insulin function—the results may be exhausting, literally. If your insulin isn’t performing as effectively as it should be, blood sugar that normally would’ve been burned by your cells remains in your bloodstream,
http://www.chromax.com/content/chromax_how.aspx
Chromium deficiency is another story, however, with an estimated 25‚50 percent of the U.S. population deficient in chromium. The United States has a greater incidence of deficiency than any other country, because of very low soil levels of chromium and the loss of this mineral from refined foods, especially sugar and flours. Deficiencies are more common in both the elderly and the young, especially teenagers on poor diets.
High milk intake has been shown to increase blood levels of insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1). High IGF-1 levels are believed to promote acne through hyperkeratinization, a multiplication of skin cells associated with acne.
http://www.ovarian-cysts-pcos.com/news15-pcos-acne.html
insulin is responsible for hyperkeratinization in the skin's epithelial layers in the flexor surfaces.
http://nurse-practitioners.advanceweb.com/...p;AD=08-01-2004
High IGF-1 increases levels of comedogenic androgens and promotes growth of all tissues, including the follicle. It is hypothesized that follicular stimulation by IGF-1 may lead to acne by increasing hyperkeratinization and epidermal hyperplasia. Moreover, some patients with adult acne have high serum IGF-1 levels in addition to elevated androgen levels.
http://www.skinandaging.com/article/7575
#188
Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:33 AM
You'll notice one theme, they are all tied together, all the vitamins and minerals and oils.
And finally you'll notice, how so many things, or the lack of, cause sebum production to go insane!
#189
Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:52 AM
Yea im on the cod liver, never gonna give that up
#190
Posted 19 May 2008 - 10:05 AM
Can't stand the taste of EVOO, but I'll have to deal with it by plugging my nose!
I've been on it a couple of days, and when I start exercising my skin starts to feel different, like if it's moisturizing itself. It's hard to explain.
Accutane has caused me not to sweat believe it or not, so hopefully I'll be able to soon.
#191
Posted 19 May 2008 - 10:50 AM
The title of the thread say, "Finally after 10 years with acne..." But the first sentence in your post says, "Here's to 10 years without acne". Are you saying you've been without acne for 10 years? If so, why has it taken you this long to post your regimen, considering you are a senior member?? Or do you mean, "Here's to 10 MORE years without acne"???? Sorry if it sounds like I'm questioning your credibility as a former acne sufferer, but both statement seem contradictory.
Also, I couldn't find any liquid fish oil for the life of me. I went to both Wal Greens and WalMart, and neither had it. So I got it in gel capsule form. The brand is Nature's Bounty, 1200 mg, contains omega 3 and 6. Is this acceptable??
#192
Posted 19 May 2008 - 10:50 AM
#193
Posted 19 May 2008 - 10:54 AM
#194
Posted 19 May 2008 - 10:56 AM
#195
Posted 19 May 2008 - 11:05 AM
I just started, so we'll see what happens in the course of a week. Good luck
#196
Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:01 PM
The title of the thread say, "Finally after 10 years with acne..." But the first sentence in your post says, "Here's to 10 years without acne". Are you saying you've been without acne for 10 years? If so, why has it taken you this long to post your regimen, considering you are a senior member?? Or do you mean, "Here's to 10 MORE years without acne"???? Sorry if it sounds like I'm questioning your credibility as a former acne sufferer, but both statement seem contradictory.
Also, I couldn't find any liquid fish oil for the life of me. I went to both Wal Greens and WalMart, and neither had it. So I got it in gel capsule form. The brand is Nature's Bounty, 1200 mg, contains omega 3 and 6. Is this acceptable??
My first sentence says "Here's to 10 years of acne gone! " not "here's to 10 years without acne" lol
The liquids are either found at whole foods or vitamin shoppe, the vitamins and minerals are found at walgereens and cvs. If you can, I would strongly recommend getting the liquids because you will have to get cod liver oil anyway =)
Can't stand the taste of EVOO, but I'll have to deal with it by plugging my nose!
I've been on it a couple of days, and when I start exercising my skin starts to feel different, like if it's moisturizing itself. It's hard to explain.
Accutane has caused me not to sweat believe it or not, so hopefully I'll be able to soon.
Yup. At the moment I noticed that 5 ml of CLO has only 92% of retinol, not 100, so I am currently taking a serving and a half of CLO and just half a serving of Fish Oil in the morning and seeing if that will make any difference. It should be pretty much the same though.
Yes, that's what is supposed to happen
Haha yeah I use that for my dip. I put in the balsamic vinegar, with some basil, pepper, and it's great.
Yeah, I would say 3 weeks is a good start, keep at it, your skin will slowly improve. I wish the skin cycle itself was a bit faster, you'll notice skin at that point begin to get better in texture etc.
#197
Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:29 PM
#198
Posted 19 May 2008 - 01:03 PM
#199
Posted 19 May 2008 - 01:11 PM
#200
Posted 19 May 2008 - 01:28 PM
In the fish liver oil I would imagine.
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