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[Veen]

See my flowchart. Any questions?

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[jodiat]

Did you make this Veen?

[rakbs]

The "Bad Diet; Poor Digestion" should probably be linked to "Nutritional Deficiencies."

Otherwise, great flow chart. Did you make it?

[NyamNyam]

See flowchart. Any questions?

That... avatar..... horror

[alternativista]

It's pretty good. But I'd move pro-inflammatory diet so you could link it to refined carbs as well.
And other foods are inflammatory as well.

And according to Perricone, inflammation makes cells inside pores not exfoliate properly and cause clogged pores.

[Tasha90]

If you made this, nice job!

See flowchart. Any questions?

That... avatar..... horror

Oh, come on, it's cute

[Veen]

Yeah, I made this. Gonna write a big long page out of it explaining all the variables. Wanted to see if I got most of it now.

I didnt link nutritional deficiencies to anything, because its relateed with alot of variables, that would get complicated.

Pro-inflammatory diet includes refined sugar.

[IFeelBroken]

If you wanted to avoid all those things you would have to live on a mountain far from civilization....

The chart is lovely.......

[Veen]

If you wanted to avoid all those things you would have to live on a mountain far from civilization....

The chart is lovely.......

Ya, thats what it looks like, but I think that when you fix the most important factors (gut dysbiosis, cell resistance and an overloaded liver), you build in a buffer and you're body will be able to handle more stressors without breaking out.

A factor I left out in the chart is that people with acne have genetically oversensitive hormone receptors. I think this is what seperates us from people who eat like crap etc and dont break out. But I didnt know a good place on the chart for that..

I dont believe that our livers have less capacity or something than other people. But our livers are defenitely overloaded, thats why some people get clear from liver cleansing. Maybe our livers focus on eliminating toxins and have gotten less efficient in eliminating used hormones..

[IFeelBroken]

If you wanted to avoid all those things you would have to live on a mountain far from civilization....

The chart is lovely.......

Ya, thats what it looks like, but I think that when you fix the most important factors (gut dysbiosis, cell resistance and an overloaded liver), you build in a buffer and you're body will be able to handle more stressors without breaking out.

A factor I left out in the chart is that people with acne have genetically oversensitive hormone receptors. I think this is what seperates us from people who eat like crap etc and dont break out. But I didnt know a good place on the chart for that..

I dont believe that our livers have less capacity or something than other people. But our livers are defenitely overloaded, thats why some people get clear from liver cleansing. Maybe our livers focus on eliminating toxins and have gotten less efficient in eliminating used hormones..

Great I am a mutated freak! lolz

I would love to live in the mountains away from reality but I'd miss my starbucks and my McDonalds....

[NdnRomeo]

That is amazing! May I use that in the future when showing people?

[alternativista]

Pro-inflammatory diet includes refined sugar.

I meant to say move it up so you could show a direct link without making the diagram any messier. But I left out the word up.

[chrisaus]

yep, i'm happy with that graph veen. I think you did a great job. I personally don't believe in the stress correlation but others do and I respect that so all in all very well done.

[Constantine]

The stress correlation is the strongest imo, apart from wheat

[Veen]

Ya stress is definitely a big factor.

That is amazing! May I use that in the future when showing people?

Yeah sure!

[alternativista]

The stress correlation is the strongest imo, apart from wheat

Not in my opinion. I don't have issues with either.

[Organic Gal]

Wow, that's an amazing chart. I am not sure I can get my head around it just yet though.

I do agree that stress plays a part. For example, my skin was looking the best it has looked in years, didn't change a thing with diet, etc... then this past week was stressful and BAM, a large spot on my chin.

I wonder if taking ACV internally can help with cleansing and even detoxifying (e.g. the liver)? I sure hope so because I just started adding it to my routine.

[chrisaus]

If you showed this chart to a derm they would literally think you are nuts. What is modern medicine when it is the community updating the doctors with information to help them do their job properly.
They are either really smart and deceptive or really ignorant and lazy. I'm still not sure which one.

[Organic Gal]

If you showed this chart to a derm they would literally think you are nuts. What is modern medicine when it is the community updating the doctors with information to help them do their job properly.
They are either really smart and deceptive or really ignorant and lazy. I'm still not sure which one.

I'd say derms are a little of both: some have so many drug companies in their back pockets that it is in their best interests to prescribe all these chemicals, antibiotics, etc... all of which only last temporarily. Also most know nothing about nutrition and trying to solve problems from the inside, out. Most are certainly shifty:

[GoBills]

If you wanted to avoid all those things you would have to live on a mountain far from civilization....

The chart is lovely.......

Ya, thats what it looks like, but I think that when you fix the most important factors (gut dysbiosis, cell resistance and an overloaded liver), you build in a buffer and you're body will be able to handle more stressors without breaking out.

A factor I left out in the chart is that people with acne have genetically oversensitive hormone receptors. I think this is what seperates us from people who eat like crap etc and dont break out. But I didnt know a good place on the chart for that..

I dont believe that our livers have less capacity or something than other people. But our livers are defenitely overloaded, thats why some people get clear from liver cleansing. Maybe our livers focus on eliminating toxins and have gotten less efficient in eliminating used hormones..

Wow nice work veen! I'll have to print it out and put it on my frige.

Maybe you could put the part about the acne sufferers oversenstive hormone receptors as an astrick at the bottom below the chart?