Hey Jodiat,
I really appreciate all of your help! THis is good to know. I think I probably get enough protein from meat and fish and hopefully the MSM will cover my sulfur needs. It seems that calcium d-glucarate is a worthwhile supplement, though. I think I will invest in some in the future, but right now I just can't bring myself to buy any new supplements
My roomate says that my kitchen drawer looks like a medicine cabinet!
On another note, I was doing some reading (not sure about reliability of the source) and I guess there is some controversy over whether or not DIM can effectively remove xenoestrogens from the body. It will certainly create a more favorable ratio of good to bad estrogens, but it's not certain that it will remove xenoestrogens which could be another reason to supplement with CDG
On the other hand, if it's true that DIM doesn't remove xenoestrogens (and it might not be true, I only saw this in one place)...then maybe we shouldn't be expecting too many IB's with DIM? I don't know, what do you think?
bran88: For yourself I do believe youll be ok but thats not to say you will, I used a high ammount of flax lignans and got ill and broken out really bad, its similar to DIM and this is why im warning incase others have done what I did. LOL you remind me of myself as my house is likea drug store atm! Ive got an A4 size paper listed full of supplements I take lol and its costly but ah well worth it.
Exposure to xenoestrogen. When a female embryo develops in the womb, 500,000 to 800,000 follicles are created in the embryo, each enclosing an immature ovum. These fragile ovarian follicles are extremely sensitive to the toxicity of environmental pollutants. When the mother is exposed to toxic chemicals that resemble estrogen in its molecular structure, she may experience no apparent damage outwardly. However the baby is more vulnerable to these toxins that may damage its ovarian follicles and make them dysfunctional. This will not be apparent until the baby reaches puberty some 10 to 15 years later, when symptoms of incomplete ovulation or insufficient progesterone production can be noted.
Petrochemical compounds found in general consumer products such as creams, lotions, soaps, shampoos, perfume, hair spray and room deodorizers. Such compounds often have chemical structures similar to estrogen and indeed act like estrogen. Other sources of xenoestrogen include car exhaust, petrochemically derived pesticides, herbicides, and fungicides; solvents and adhesives such as that those found in nail polish, paint removers, and glues; dry-cleaning chemicals; practically all plastics, industrial waste such as PCBs and dioxins, synthetic estrogens from urine of women taking HRT and birth control pills that is flushed down the toilet and eventually found its way into the food chain and back into the body. They are fat soluble and non-biodegradable.
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Its my view that whats happening in the body and I might be wrong, but fromreading alot into it all here goes.
Estrogen and XenoEstrogen are very similar in their makeup, enough to the point the body thinks it is a natural Estrogen. These and body Estrogens now have an advantage over progesterone as they compete but need to be kept balanced! Now Estrogen wins by having larger numbers (even tho XenoEstrogen is unnatural but powerful). Whats happening is at hormone receptor sites in the body (and maybe more in the womb of females) the war between Progesterone and Estrogen +XenoEstrogen is taking place. What DIM is doing is coming along and giving Progesterone a helping hand. What Mr DIM does is act like an Estrogen. Now Mr DIM is weaker then Mr XenoEstrogen which is a good thing. The receptor sites now take up plenty of DIM instead of XenoEstrogen. (what yourdoing is replacing one evil with a less evil)*** Now XenoEstrogens are freely floating in the blood stream and end up at the liver.
IF the liver is congested then it cant deal effectivly with this excess increase in Hromones (not everyones liver is congested but could be congested enough if you alter hormones e.g.how some Bodybuilders who take steroids can get very bad acne is the same principle). If your liver cant deal with the excess hormones thrown at it, they will recycle them in the blood untill the livers less busy and can bind proteins and sulphur with them at a later date. Having dirty blood and blood filled with excess used hormones is why you might get IB with DIM and why you (like I have) might get ill if you increase DIM dose. (I was on 5grams of Flax lignans per day, being similar to DIM I got very ill and broken out like crazy...little did I know that DIM and flax are using the same methods and I didnt connect the dots untill the other day while reading about DIM)
*** Side Note: In Estrogen Dominance its progesterone cream thats the main method of attack. What this is doing is directly altering the hormone imbalance by giving the low amount of Progesterone a boost with natural progesterone (mainly in a cream form). This method isnt altering Estrogen directly like DIM but indirectly by increasing Progesterone. Whats happening here is as Estrogen and Progesterone are in a balancing war and increasing Progesterone will bash excess Estrogen of receptor sites. This is imo better then using DIM or Flax and gets staight to business by increasing whats needed, notsimply exchanging on for another (Unless DIM has other virtues, but DIM can increase progesterone levels too!)
**This is only important to people who have hormonal acne and is much more important for females then males. While male can and are ED its females who need to monitor this as their Mensas increase Estrogen monthly (and Progesterone) but this imbalance is one major reason for PMS.
You can have acne from candida, food allergens, poor blood sugar motbalism, stress and poor diet so dont jump into DIM and think itsa full cure. Its a nice piece of the puzzle but not the whole puzzle itself.
lolly: Very interesting link...bookmarked!
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