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#41 maribella

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Posted 24 February 2008 - 10:15 PM

QUOTE (Dotty1 @ Feb 15 2008, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is a potent anti-androgen called DIM whih is having really good results here in this forum. It clears in under 2 weeks... and it balances the hormones. It is about $8.

DIM (Diindolylmethane) is isolated veggies.

Just wanted to tell all of you!

Note: You should not take this product if you can become or are pregnant. Anti-androgens change the formation of the reproduction organs of the baby.


**Note: I edited this post so that people wouldnt rush out and buy Genistein without thoroughly reading about its link to Leukemia. So, I'm posting about DIM instead.



Hello , can i take DIM even though I am on Birth control *ortho????

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Posted 24 February 2008 - 10:36 PM

QUOTE (maribella @ Feb 24 2008, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Dotty1 @ Feb 15 2008, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is a potent anti-androgen called DIM whih is having really good results here in this forum. It clears in under 2 weeks... and it balances the hormones. It is about $8.

DIM (Diindolylmethane) is isolated veggies.

Just wanted to tell all of you!

Note: You should not take this product if you can become or are pregnant. Anti-androgens change the formation of the reproduction organs of the baby.


**Note: I edited this post so that people wouldnt rush out and buy Genistein without thoroughly reading about its link to Leukemia. So, I'm posting about DIM instead.



Hello , can i take DIM even though I am on Birth control *ortho????


I received a book on DIM w/ my order and here is what it says:

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The use of DIM with birth control is a good combination in theory. However, some caution is in order because possible interactions have not been studied directly. Until studies are performed confirming the effectiveness of birth control pills as preventing pregnancy during DIM use, this combination is not recommended.


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Posted 24 February 2008 - 10:51 PM

QUOTE (LiliVG @ Feb 24 2008, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
B5 gave me a Horrible initial break out, I don't think it would be worth it if DIM would clear acne in a week.


I would have to agree. What's the point of taking b5 if dim is going to work and vise versa. The best thing you can do is to see if dim works then move on to b5 if it doesn't.

And another update for me....I know for a fact this is working now, I had a burger last night and pizza today and I've still not seen a new pimple since I started dim 2 days ago. More blackheads are surfacing and falling right out and my face is starting to look very smooth. I can't wait till later on in the week to see if I'm completely clear. This will truly be a miracle if it works...I keep a close eye on my face and haven't been without at least 4 pimples at a given time in more than a year. If and when I'm completely clear In a week I'll start testing to see if while on the dim I'm unaffected by different foods I'd normally break out from. It's funny too cause when I first saw this thread I completely ignored it for a few days thinking it was strictly for girls.

THANK YOU DOTTY AND MURMUR FOR SHARING YOUR SUCCESS STORY WITH US biggrin.gif

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Posted 24 February 2008 - 11:38 PM

Man, I can't wait til my DIM comes in the mail. I wish it was sold locally somewhere.

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 12:03 AM

I'd also like to mention something else to let you know the severity of my acne state before these 3 days on dim. When I say I have 4 pimples at a minimum at all times i don't just mean 4 little bumps. 4 painfull ones at a time along with lots of little tiny bumps (some red some flesh colored) that up until today I had thought to be a part of my skin permanently. Also my forehead is always bumpy, I thought it was just a terrible skin texture but it's almost completely smooth after these 3 days! Only about 10 more blackheads barely visible compared to my cheeks and forehead and temples being covered before. Today my girlfriend said to me "Dan, are you feeling alright? you look really pale, this is the first time I've seen your face the same color as your neck in a really long time." I couldn't help but laugh but then I realized that my face is always red and irritated looking. I don't know what this stuff did to help the overall color of my face but it's working and it's working fast. I feel kinda like I'm bragging on here but I'm really damn excited and this is the only place I can really relate with people about acne.

And one more thing...sorry if I'm dragging this out but I thought this was really important. The last time my face looked like this was when I visited my friend in NYC last year. It boggled my mind because I couldn't understand why it was 100% clear when I went over there. I went over every possibility in my head and figured the water down there must have helped my skin so I ordered a water filter 2 weeks ago. I like the filter but it didn't change my skin too much. What I realized today might sound crazy but I think it's what cleared my face in the city. I ate tofu...I was looking on some stuff about genistein today online and I came across a site that said genistein is found in tofu, I immediately put 2 and 2 together and my jaw dropped. I then looked on a few more sites and saw the same thing. I know this sounds nuts but if you saw my face during that weekend without a single pimple then saw it any other time you'd definitely ponder this possibility.

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 12:11 AM

Sweet man, totally happy for you.

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 12:16 AM

Ok Shoppers Drug Mart doesnt sell DIM!!! I was so angry, the pharmacist didnt even know what it was. I said it was an estrogen pill but it was no use.

Can anyone tell me where I should buy it off the net, and which one I should get? I want to buy off a reliable site, cuz I ordered B5 2 months ago from swanson vitamins and now I may sue cuz they havnt sent the items, and keep saying they will resend etc.

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 12:18 AM


just a quick note vitamin shoppe sells DIM only 10-30 bucks , everything i find online is usually at the stores so here
http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/search/en/que...;intsource=main

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 03:40 AM

This is looking like promising stuff, does anywhere know where to order it from in the UK?

Edit: The only one i can find in the UK is this one http://bestherbalsolutions.co.uk/html/dim.html
Does this look okay?

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 07:27 AM

QUOTE (valo_123 @ Feb 25 2008, 06:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (LiliVG @ Feb 24 2008, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
B5 gave me a Horrible initial break out, I don't think it would be worth it if DIM would clear acne in a week.


I would have to agree. What's the point of taking b5 if dim is going to work and vise versa. The best thing you can do is to see if dim works then move on to b5 if it doesn't.

And another update for me....I know for a fact this is working now, I had a burger last night and pizza today and I've still not seen a new pimple since I started dim 2 days ago. More blackheads are surfacing and falling right out and my face is starting to look very smooth. I can't wait till later on in the week to see if I'm completely clear. This will truly be a miracle if it works...I keep a close eye on my face and haven't been without at least 4 pimples at a given time in more than a year. If and when I'm completely clear In a week I'll start testing to see if while on the dim I'm unaffected by different foods I'd normally break out from. It's funny too cause when I first saw this thread I completely ignored it for a few days thinking it was strictly for girls.

THANK YOU DOTTY AND MURMUR FOR SHARING YOUR SUCCESS STORY WITH US biggrin.gif


Blackheads falling out on their own in such a short amount of time is really impressive. I've heard of such a thing happening before and can't imagine what its like. Will you be doing before/during/after pictures? (not pushing; just asking)

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 07:45 AM

What's everyone's thoughts on just eating the cruciferous veg?

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 10:30 AM

QUOTE (Mech @ Feb 25 2008, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sweet man, totally happy for you.


Thanks, I really appreciate it. I really don't know what to do with myself, so much of my time was dedicated to finding a cure for my acne and I just stumbled upon this and WA LA..it's kinda strange but amazing none the less. My hair starting thinning when I was 16, since then it's stopped mostly but if this stuff helps that too I'll be sure to let everyone know.

Sie, I took before pictures about a month ago but got frustrated and deleted them. The only thing I have to take them on is my phone but I'll do my best to take clear ones and try to upload them via sprint's website. I'll post them in another day as I'm sure I'll be 100% clear by then biggrin.gif

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 08:25 PM

QUOTE (valo_123 @ Feb 25 2008, 08:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Mech @ Feb 25 2008, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sweet man, totally happy for you.


Thanks, I really appreciate it. I really don't know what to do with myself, so much of my time was dedicated to finding a cure for my acne and I just stumbled upon this and WA LA..it's kinda strange but amazing none the less. My hair starting thinning when I was 16, since then it's stopped mostly but if this stuff helps that too I'll be sure to let everyone know.

Sie, I took before pictures about a month ago but got frustrated and deleted them. The only thing I have to take them on is my phone but I'll do my best to take clear ones and try to upload them via sprint's website. I'll post them in another day as I'm sure I'll be 100% clear by then biggrin.gif


Are the pics in your recycle bin? Often I forget I can restore things I've deleted.

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 08:33 PM

It says that it comes from Brassica veggies, so eating lotsa broccoli and cauliflower is the same? =K
And what exactly are the risks and dosages and is it available in pharmacies?

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 08:42 PM

P.S. this is very exciting smile.gif


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Posted 25 February 2008 - 08:48 PM

Junebug... one DIM pill is equal to 2-4 pounds of veggies per day. They say that very few
ppl can comfortably eat that much. smile.gif

I buy my DIM from froogle.com ... Buy from a site like Vitamin Shoppe.

Valo --- it doesnt seem like you are bragging at all! This is the place where EVERYONE understaqnds what it is like to finally see your face clear after many years. Its like removing a grusome mask after many years of wear.

Most of the time, people ask me, "What happened to you? Do you have chicken pox?" Because my skin looks so bad... Some people think I've been stung by bees (the pockets f oil swell SO large).

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 10:06 PM

lol Dotty...

er...so it isn't sold in actual vitamin shoppe stores? because I really hate ordering and then waiting a million years to get it...really bursts my bubble.

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 10:52 PM

How do you think this relates to sugar causing pimple, or certain food hypersensitivities causing acne?

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 09:58 AM

QUOTE (LiliVG @ Feb 25 2008, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (valo_123 @ Feb 25 2008, 08:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Mech @ Feb 25 2008, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sweet man, totally happy for you.


Thanks, I really appreciate it. I really don't know what to do with myself, so much of my time was dedicated to finding a cure for my acne and I just stumbled upon this and WA LA..it's kinda strange but amazing none the less. My hair starting thinning when I was 16, since then it's stopped mostly but if this stuff helps that too I'll be sure to let everyone know.

Sie, I took before pictures about a month ago but got frustrated and deleted them. The only thing I have to take them on is my phone but I'll do my best to take clear ones and try to upload them via sprint's website. I'll post them in another day as I'm sure I'll be 100% clear by then biggrin.gif


Are the pics in your recycle bin? Often I forget I can restore things I've deleted.


No, unfortunately I took them on my phone :/. I'll upload them later on or tomorrow when I get some time to mess around with it.

Dotty, thanks I appreciate that. So many times I've wished it were as easy as taking off your face to reveal one with perfect skin underneath, unfortunately it's not that easy sad.gif .

The connection I've made with sugars is this...First I'd like to stress the fact that sugars have (before I started taking dim) wreaked havoc on my face. Carbs also break me out but not to the extent of sweets like cookies,cakes,candy,etc. I tested the food connection so many times there's no disputing it with me. Because I saw such dramatic results from dim the first day and a half my confidence boosted and i started eating stuff like bread and pastries, It was scary as I didn't no what to expect. Normally after finishing a meal with high sugar content I can literally see a difference in my skin's texture and about 2-3 hours later pimples start to come up all over the place. Now I noticed the first time I consumed white bread that I noticed no difference in my face. I'll get on to the point though...after 3 days nothing, not a single new pimple has risen and I've eaten worse than I have since christmas. things just keep improving.

What I think is this, I think the blood sugar spike you get from sweets doesn't directly effect your oil glands like I thought it did. I'm pretty sure that the spike effects your hormones which in turn effect your glands. This would fully explain why you can keep your oil production/acne under control to a certain extent by limiting your carb/sugar intake, this would also suggest that diet change is no more than another way to keep the pimples away temporarily or for as long as the diet permits. Dim, for me at least, has targeted the true cause of acne and over oil production, which seems to be my hormones. So I think when your hormones are already unbalanced you are more susceptible to the effect sugar has on your hormones.

If dim doesn't work for you then It might be a sign that your acne is caused by something other than a hormonal imbalance. Perhaps dietary imbalance is a completely different disease with the same symptoms as hormonal imbalance.

This is in no way supporting the ridiculous idea that acne and diet don't have a connection, it's actually supporting the fact that it does. For me it had a huge effect on my acne so long as my hormones were imbalanced. Acne creams and antibiotics simply peck away at the symptoms of a bigger problem, dietary changes actually take it to the next level by being more direct in your approach at treating the causes of the symptoms.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 10:00 AM

As soon as my DIM arrives, I want to start researching what is causing the androgen flare-ups (or estrogen flare-ups) in the first place. There must be something that I am doing everyday that is causing the problem. I need to start researching again =P.

It could be an environmental toxin like PVC (PolyVinyl Chloride). Its soooooo toxic, but as scientists say, "America could not function without it because its in everything."). There are hundreds of warning websites about it. It might mess up the hormones. PVC is in everything: Its a plastic. Its used for bottles, jugs, plastic pipes, plastic hairbrushes, chair pieces, desk pieces, anything plasticy, heating pads, children's toys....

The good news is that PVC is so toxic that the US plans to phase it out because it is known to cause birth defects and cancers. (I just googled it and found the FDA has just issued a warning about PVC...saying not to have it in around you).




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