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[treefeet]

I just did a quick search on low stomach acid and guess what I found:


Signs and Symptoms of Low Acidity

* Bloating, belching, and flatulence immediately after meals
* Indigestion, diarrhea, or constipation
* Soreness, burning or dryness of the mouth
* Heartburn
* Multiple food allergies
* Feeling nauseous after taking supplements
* Rectal itching
* Weak, peeling and cracked fingernails
* Redness or dilated blood vessels in the cheeks and nose
* Adult acne
* Hair loss in women
* Iron deficiency
* Undigested food in the stools
* Chronic yeast infections
* Low tolerance for dentures

Also look on that list, Multiple food allergies. The thing that brought me to lists like that one was I kept noticing people saying "This food breaks me out, this other food breaks me out, etc" and I thought that sounded a lot like food allergies. When I looked it up, up came hypochlorhydria, and in the symptoms list, acne. I've also noticed many people complain of digestive problems, which is also on that list. Also candida is a topic that comes up frequently here, and that's another symptom of low stomach acid. And I read that ACV improves stomach acidity, and I've also seen that talked about a lot on these forums. So to me it seemed like too many coincidences at once, and that's when I started the HCL. I'm so glad I did!
The list also says hair loss, which I think is interesting because my mom has that problem. So I'm wondering if low stomach acid is genetic.

I definitely think it is. My dad had bad acne as a teen, and he also has chronic heartburn, and redness/dilated blood vessels on his nose which I have as well.

[Leo21k]

would this acid supplement be ok?

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/ProductDisp...CatalogId=10051

Best deal I could find.

Lol, im actually excited about trying this theory out

[treefeet]

More on low stomach acid. Wow... does this stuff sound familiar?! I'm sure this isn't news to you LiliVG but I wanted to post it for others to see, a lot of common acne treatments/diet guidelines here.


Dietary recommendations for stomach acid imbalance include:

* Add raw, crushed garlic to your diet to benefit from the antimicrobial properties of allicin, since low stomach acid is associated with an increase in “bad” bacteria and fungi such as Candida.
* Add nutrient-dense and unprocessed foods such as sprouted nuts and seeds to your diet.
* Increase your fiber intake by adding ground flax seed to your diet to encourage healthy bowel movements.
* Add virgin coconut oil to your diet to benefit from its antimicrobial properties and saturated fat. Read more about good fats.
* Increase your omega-3 essential fatty acids by selecting ground flax seed, wild-caught salmon, minimal-mercury albacore tuna, fish oil, avocados, and sprouted walnuts.
* If you’re not allergic to dairy, eat plain, unsweetened, organic unpasteurized yogurt with live, active cultures (aka, probiotics).
* Drink a minimum of 8 to 10 glasses of purified water a day.

Foods to AVOID include:

* All simple or refined carbohydrates (white bread, pasta, cookies, cakes, crackers, etc.) – Read more about good carbs and bad carbs.
* All alcohol – It increases stomach acid production and can cause acid reflux. Alcohol relaxes the natural valve that keeps stomach acid out of the esophagus.7
* Nightshade vegetables – A small percentage of people experience a bad reaction to nightshade vegetables such as tomatoes, eggplants, potatoes, and peppers (chili, green, red). These may cause gastrointestinal upset such as heartburn and indigestion, or increased inflammation for arthritis sufferers. Avoid these foods if you have a bad reaction to them.8
* Wheat and gluten (a wheat protein) – These wreak havoc on the digestive system for those who have gluten and wheat intolerances, also known as celiac disease.
* Peanuts – They are actually legumes that may contain harmful mytotoxins (mold) that can cause a severe allergic reaction in some people.
* Bottom crawlers, such as oysters, clams, and lobster that may contain toxic levels of mercury
* Deep-sea fish such as tuna, mackerel, and swordfish that may contain toxic levels of mercury. Choose minimal-mercury albacore tuna instead.
* Farm-raised fish that contain PCBs and not enough omega-3 essential fatty acids, due to their land-based diets. Choose wild-caught salmon instead.
* Excessive caffeine intake – While moderate amounts of caffeine may be beneficial, excessive consumption can disrupt the body’s systems, causing insomnia and digestive irregularity (constipation or diarrhea).
* All refined sugars and artificial sweeteners such as aspartame, Splenda®, etc. – Sugar feeds Candida overgrowth. Choose a natural sweetener like Xylosweet instead.
* Sodium nitrite found in processed foods such as hot dogs, lunch meats, and bacon
* Monosodium glutamate (MSG) found in many foods as a flavor enhancer
* Hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils (trans fats) found in many processed foods, deep-fried foods, fast food, and junk food – Read more about good fats and bad fats.
* Carbonated soft drinks that alter blood pH levels9


Ironically, vitamin and mineral deficiencies can cause a vicious cycle of low stomach acid and malnutrition. vitamin B-1 are all needed for stomach acid production. If any of these are lacking in the diet, hypochlorhydria can develop. In turn, hypochlorhydria affects the body’s ability to absorb the vitamins and minerals it needs to produce the proper levels of HCl. The lack of proper nutrient absorption sets the stage for the vicious cycle of low stomach acid output and chronic nutrient deficiencies.2

[LiliVG]

Weird, there are posts missing, hmmm...


Anyways, yeah, that's a great post. It all does tie in together really well, I'm really thinking this low stomach acid thing is playing a major part in acne for many people.

My goal is to find supplements and foods that stimulate stomach acid on their own. Meat does that which is why I think the really high meat diets seem to be working for people. I also found capsaicin, the stuff that makes peppers spicy, strongly simulates natural HCL production. I'm going to get some supplements of that today and see if it works as well as HCL. I don't want my stomach to lower it's own acid production in an attempt to compensate for direct acid supplementation, so foods and supplements that trigger the stomach to produce it's own would be more reliable I think. I'll let everyone know how it goes.

[LiliVG]

would this acid supplement be ok?

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/ProductDisp...CatalogId=10051

Best deal I could find.

Lol, im actually excited about trying this theory out

That one seems fine

[Constantine]

So, any results on this theory?

I am interested on rying betaine, the theory certainly makes sense.

[sgxyo3man]

Just wanted to say that after I stopped the Rockstars, the HCL kicked right in. I'm supping with Taurine capsules (3 grams a day), Betaine HCL right at the end of my meal (two 648 mg caps), and a B-complex with about the same dosages as yours Lili. A question for the taurine though: can I take it right before my meal, or do I got to take it an hour before eating or two hours after as the minimum wait time? That's what the guy in the vitamin shop I went to said. Skins gotten a slot better after the damaging sweets in the past 2 weeks. Ugh, damn cookie dough.

[LiliVG]

Just wanted to say that after I stopped the Rockstars, the HCL kicked right in. I'm supping with Taurine capsules (3 grams a day), Betaine HCL right at the end of my meal (two 648 mg caps), and a B-complex with about the same dosages as yours Lili. A question for the taurine though: can I take it right before my meal, or do I got to take it an hour before eating or two hours after as the minimum wait time? That's what the guy in the vitamin shop I went to said. Skins gotten a slot better after the damaging sweets in the past 2 weeks. Ugh, damn cookie dough.

I'm not sure about the timing of taurine supplementation. Someone said that amino acid supplements cause insulin spikes on an empty stomach, and taurine is an amino acid, though not the same kind of amino acid as the others, so I'm not sure. I take mine with food though just to be sure. I figure the stomach acid probably helps it absorb better also. More often then not, I tend to take mine with food, and that seems to work ok. Maybe the vitamin guy knows something I don't, maybe it's better without meals. Did he say why to not take it with meals?

[LiliVG]

Update:

I've been taking the capsaicin (Cayenne powder, standardized to 40,000 HU) at the beginning of each meal for 2 days now. I definitely feel it increasing the acid in my stomach, it's undeniable! This morning my skin was super smooth, flakiness definitely going down.

One weird side effect of the HCL, which I definitely didn't mind, but was rather unexpected: No BO. I didn't even have to wear deodorant, it was so strange! The only smell that came off me ever was a slight hint of the smell of the HCL supplement. Anyways, just thought I'd share that, lol.

[ayron318]

So, why take your Physillium Husk 2 hours before or after other supplements? I been taking mine with every meal whenever I take my other vitamins. What has this been doing?

The other day I seen my big 150 B complex vitamin in my stool, could taking the Physillium Husk w/ my other supplements be the cause of this?

[sgxyo3man]

Yeah, the guy said something about it binding to proteins and not allowing them to take full effect. I have been following his directions with flawless results. It's clear that he may have something. My face feels absolutely amazing right now. The feeling I get from inflammation is undeniably damaging and now it's all gone! I just have a nice amount of red spots. Wish those would heal faster...

The BO issue is probably due to your food just being broken down faster and more efficiently. I know that if it sits in the bowels too long, it can definitely result in body odor. I noticed that during times of constipation (and stomach trouble in general), I would have some pretty bad ode de natural going on. Good find!

[LiliVG]

So, why take your Physillium Husk 2 hours before or after other supplements? I been taking mine with every meal whenever I take my other vitamins. What has this been doing?

The other day I seen my big 150 B complex vitamin in my stool, could taking the Physillium Husk w/ my other supplements be the cause of this?

That problem is really typical of tablets. Make sure your b complex is in the form of a capsule.
Psyllium husks bind up everything you ate into a gel, so it's basically unabsorbable. Don't take psyllium husks and supplements together, make sure there's at least 2 hours between them. Make sure to drink plenty of water with the psyllium husks or you could get constipation, it's no fun, and very bad for the skin.

Yeah, the guy said something about it binding to proteins and not allowing them to take full effect. I have been following his directions with flawless results. It's clear that he may have something. My face feels absolutely amazing right now. The feeling I get from inflammation is undeniably damaging and now it's all gone! I just have a nice amount of red spots. Wish those would heal faster...

The BO issue is probably due to your food just being broken down faster and more efficiently. I know that if it sits in the bowels too long, it can definitely result in body odor. I noticed that during times of constipation (and stomach trouble in general), I would have some pretty bad ode de natural going on. Good find!

Interesting. I can see how that would be an issue for body building. I think most people who supplement with taurine are body builders. I'll try keeping the taurine and meals separate and see if it makes a difference

[ayron318]

omg....this makes me so mad....i been doing this for the past 2 months since I started taking Physillium Husk!

[Leo21k]

How much water do you personally take with psyllium husks? I havent had to go to the restroom in 3 days since I started taking them with one glass of water (about 1/4 liter).

[DeAntonio]

That problem is really typical of tablets. Make sure your b complex is in the form of a capsule.
Psyllium husks bind up everything you ate into a gel, so it's basically unabsorbable. Don't take psyllium husks and supplements together, make sure there's at least 2 hours between them. Make sure to drink plenty of water with the psyllium husks or you could get constipation, it's no fun, and very bad for the skin.

when do you take the PH ?

with the foods + HCL or at a completely separate time ?

[LiliVG]

That problem is really typical of tablets. Make sure your b complex is in the form of a capsule.
Psyllium husks bind up everything you ate into a gel, so it's basically unabsorbable. Don't take psyllium husks and supplements together, make sure there's at least 2 hours between them. Make sure to drink plenty of water with the psyllium husks or you could get constipation, it's no fun, and very bad for the skin.

when do you take the PH ?

with the foods + HCL or at a completely separate time ?

By itself completely separate from everything else. I make a mix which is really yummy, it's 1 tsp of psyllium, 10-12 oz of rice milk, 1/2 tsp vanilla, 1/4 tsp cinnamon., and 1-2 Tbsp of xylitol. Super yummy! I usually have that between lunch and dinner.

[sgxyo3man]

Lili, I know you have the B-complex 50. Do you take 1 or two caps a day and when?

[LiliVG]

Lili, I know you have the B-complex 50. Do you take 1 or two caps a day and when?

Mine's actually a b complex 25. I take it once a day. I thinking it would probably be better if I could split it up throughout the day for better absorption, but for now, I take it once in the morning.

How much water do you personally take with psyllium husks? I havent had to go to the restroom in 3 days since I started taking them with one glass of water (about 1/4 liter).

How much psyllium are you taking at a time? The psyllium shouldn't be backing things up, in fact it should be the opposite.

[sgxyo3man]

Oh what the hell. They didn't even have the 25 when I went in yesterday. What would you do with a 50?

[LiliVG]

Oh what the hell. They didn't even have the 25 when I went in yesterday. What would you do with a 50?

You should probably be ok with 50 B vitamins are water soluble, so whatever your body doesn't use, gets sent out in the urine. Just don't use one higher than 50. B-6 at 100mg per day over time causes nerve damage. It's reversible, but I imagine not fun.
If you want, you can split it in half and take 1/2 per day. You can get empty capsules at the health food store, and so splitting them up is possible, but kind of a pain in the butt, lol.