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Posted 26 December 2007 - 12:26 PM

It breaks down your skin!

ā€œSequencing the whole genome has revealed that the bacterium can actively degrade human skin tissue because of the massive presence of these enzymes, and also that there are specific immunogenic proteins which are present in this bacterium which trigger the immune response,” Brüggemann told New Scientist.

And they thought it was part of the human genome because of contamination!

The genome also reveals a P. acnes gene mistakenly annotated as a human gene in the international Genbank database. This raised the possibility that if human sequence stored there is contaminated with bacterial sequences, other human sequence data may be similarly affected.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6222

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Posted 26 December 2007 - 02:28 PM

I love science. It's the only thing that can help us.

But this is from 2004. We need more.

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Posted 26 December 2007 - 09:52 PM

So wer're doing the skin a favor by applying BP to our faces?

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Posted 01 January 2008 - 03:40 PM

QUOTE(notsobad @ Dec 26 2007, 02:28 PM)
I love science. It's the only thing that can help us.

But this is from 2004. We need more.


nope.

faith in jesus is the only thing that can help you, tithing is the way my brother, and god will return it ten fold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

its our dogmatic tendencies that will be our savior!!!!!
question nothing sacred, dont question the authority of god!!!!or the scriptures!!! or the church!!

HA!!! just had to poke fun and give science its due and expose the thinking that fueled the dark ages, which the age of enlightenment and reason and science eventually ended. no more burning people at the stakes, putting them on spikey chairs, impaling them or disemboweling them for heresy, come to think of it those must have been good times!!!all in the name of the church too!!!!!sweet.


question the existence of everything, believe in nothing that is false, avoid doubting anything that isnt proved to be untrue, and your mind will become one with the universe, your head will only know the world as it truly is.

making inferences on false premises will only lead to more false conlusions, you will be doomed to never know the nature of this world, and hold false knowledge.



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Posted 01 January 2008 - 05:09 PM

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AutonomousOne1980 date='Jan 1 2008, 04:40 PM'
avoid doubting anything that isnt proved to be untrue


So logically, you must believe in God? Sweet smile.gif


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If God is outside of nature, then science can neither prove nor disprove His existence.



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making inferences on false premises will only lead to more false conlusions, you will be doomed to never know the nature of this world, and hold false knowledge.


Well now look, I thought otherwise, but seeing this is a matter of opinion, I can't say for certain who is correct. I believe that as a Christian that I just can't put my trust into man's theories and knowledge. What can man do to me? Nothing. So I trust in the Lord.
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Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.


I guess I'm not too worried about getting to know the nature of this world...since it is only temporary, and Jesus chose us to leave the world behind.

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If the world hates you, realize that it hated me first.John 15:19 If you belonged to the world, the world would love its own; but because you do not belong to the world, and I have chosen you out of the world, the world hates you.



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Posted 02 January 2008 - 11:35 AM

QUOTE(AutonomousOne1980 @ Jan 1 2008, 05:40 PM)
QUOTE(notsobad @ Dec 26 2007, 02:28 PM)
I love science. It's the only thing that can help us.

But this is from 2004. We need more.


nope.

faith in jesus is the only thing that can help you, tithing is the way my brother, and god will return it ten fold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

its our dogmatic tendencies that will be our savior!!!!!
question nothing sacred, dont question the authority of god!!!!or the scriptures!!! or the church!!

HA!!! just had to poke fun and give science its due and expose the thinking that fueled the dark ages, which the age of enlightenment and reason and science eventually ended. no more burning people at the stakes, putting them on spikey chairs, impaling them or disemboweling them for heresy, come to think of it those must have been good times!!!all in the name of the church too!!!!!sweet.


question the existence of everything, believe in nothing that is false, avoid doubting anything that isnt proved to be untrue, and your mind will become one with the universe, your head will only know the world as it truly is.

making inferences on false premises will only lead to more false conlusions, you will be doomed to never know the nature of this world, and hold false knowledge.


You poor, poor man..

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 02:31 PM

QUOTE(AutonomousOne1980 @ Jan 1 2008, 04:40 PM)
QUOTE(notsobad @ Dec 26 2007, 02:28 PM)


question the existence of everything, believe in nothing that is false, avoid doubting anything that isnt proved to be untrue, and your mind will become one with the universe, your head will only know the world as it truly is.

making inferences on false premises will only lead to more false conlusions, you will be doomed to never know the nature of this world, and hold false knowledge.


wow, that was deep. eusa_think.gif

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 04:34 PM

QUOTE(AutonomousOne1980 @ Jan 1 2008, 09:40 PM)
QUOTE(notsobad @ Dec 26 2007, 02:28 PM)
I love science. It's the only thing that can help us.

But this is from 2004. We need more.


nope.

faith in jesus is the only thing that can help you, tithing is the way my brother, and god will return it ten fold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

its our dogmatic tendencies that will be our savior!!!!!
question nothing sacred, dont question the authority of god!!!!or the scriptures!!! or the church!!

HA!!! just had to poke fun and give science its due and expose the thinking that fueled the dark ages, which the age of enlightenment and reason and science eventually ended. no more burning people at the stakes, putting them on spikey chairs, impaling them or disemboweling them for heresy, come to think of it those must have been good times!!!all in the name of the church too!!!!!sweet.


question the existence of everything, believe in nothing that is false, avoid doubting anything that isnt proved to be untrue, and your mind will become one with the universe, your head will only know the world as it truly is.

making inferences on false premises will only lead to more false conlusions, you will be doomed to never know the nature of this world, and hold false knowledge.


Yeah man, zits in outer space.

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 05:48 PM

wow, alot haters out there. eusa_snooty.gif

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 10:20 PM

Science > God

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 10:24 PM

Science pwns God!

Science gave me pain relievers...
God expects me to pray and live with my pain!

God's love is a lie!

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 02:24 AM

QUOTE(Jess @ Jan 1 2008, 05:09 PM)
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AutonomousOne1980 date='Jan 1 2008, 04:40 PM'
avoid doubting anything that isnt proved to be untrue

So logically, you must believe in God? Sweet smile.gif


i dont believe 100% until there is conclusive evidence
i wont believe in its non existence until there is proof, so this way anything is possible but i ask, what is probable that we can bet on ?

so god could exist, if you could only define god that is.
proof of gods existence may lie in the very definition of god.

so what exactly are we looking for? an organizing intelligence? or an old man in the sky?
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I believe that as a Christian that I just can't put my trust into man's theories and knowledge. What can man do to me? Nothing. So I trust in the Lord.


then you can never drive a car again, nor operate a computer. science and mans inquisitiveness has ended more suffering on this earth then religion. Constant shame and guilt is suffering.

science and reason is a religion and a way of life, to me. you are probably more a part of this religion without being aware of it, then you are of the one you seem to be aware of. umm i think ha!! you are using a computer right now arent you? then you are realizing the fruits of science as a way to improve life and end suffering.


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Posted 03 January 2008 - 02:43 AM

QUOTE(Wolf @ Jan 2 2008, 11:35 AM)
QUOTE(AutonomousOne1980 @ Jan 1 2008, 05:40 PM)
QUOTE(notsobad @ Dec 26 2007, 02:28 PM)
I love science. It's the only thing that can help us.

But this is from 2004. We need more.


nope.

faith in jesus is the only thing that can help you, tithing is the way my brother, and god will return it ten fold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

its our dogmatic tendencies that will be our savior!!!!!
question nothing sacred, dont question the authority of god!!!!or the scriptures!!! or the church!!

HA!!! just had to poke fun and give science its due and expose the thinking that fueled the dark ages, which the age of enlightenment and reason and science eventually ended. no more burning people at the stakes, putting them on spikey chairs, impaling them or disemboweling them for heresy, come to think of it those must have been good times!!!all in the name of the church too!!!!!sweet.


question the existence of everything, believe in nothing that is false, avoid doubting anything that isnt proved to be untrue, and your mind will become one with the universe, your head will only know the world as it truly is.

making inferences on false premises will only lead to more false conlusions, you will be doomed to never know the nature of this world, and hold false knowledge.


You poor, poor man..


hey, i love all people, and perhaps more loving then most. you see my signature, i try to pass any information thats helped me on to other people, in hopes it will help them, expecting nothing in return because i realize i am part of a greater system them my little measely life, hopefully it will reach far out into the depths of the human race.
im one small man, whos small actions to create change will hopefully reverberate from one end of the earth to the next, and change the course of history.




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Posted 03 January 2008 - 12:31 PM

lol not another God vs Science debate...

Whenever these come up people show their intolerance for others. And intolerance is why humanity's not getting along.

Just let people believe (or not believe) what they want and you'll make the world a better place.

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 02:52 PM

I tend to put my faith in the bowl of mashed potatoes on the table, more than anything else.
Worrrd.

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 04:12 PM

QUOTE(AutonomousOne1980 @ Jan 3 2008, 02:24 AM)
QUOTE(Jess @ Jan 1 2008, 05:09 PM)
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AutonomousOne1980 date='Jan 1 2008, 04:40 PM'
avoid doubting anything that isnt proved to be untrue

So logically, you must believe in God? Sweet smile.gif


i dont believe 100% until there is conclusive evidence
i wont believe in its non existence until there is proof, so this way anything is possible but i ask, what is probable that we can bet on ?

so god could exist, if you could only define god that is.
proof of gods existence may lie in the very definition of god.

so what exactly are we looking for? an organizing intelligence? or an old man in the sky?
[indent=1]
QUOTE
I believe that as a Christian that I just can't put my trust into man's theories and knowledge. What can man do to me? Nothing. So I trust in the Lord.


then you can never drive a car again, nor operate a computer. science and mans inquisitiveness has ended more suffering on this earth then religion. Constant shame and guilt is suffering.

science and reason is a religion and a way of life, to me. you are probably more a part of this religion without being aware of it, then you are of the one you seem to be aware of. umm i think ha!! you are using a computer right now arent you? then you are realizing the fruits of science as a way to improve life and end suffering.



Can never drive a car again or operate a computer if you don't trust fully in science and accept it as a religion? I am so sick of this crap!

You can sit and take all the bad things bad religion has done and use it as a weapon to attack others, but know that people could also do the same thing to science. What about those who invented the atomic bomb or want to clone human beings for thier own selfish, vain endevors?

People do bad things, burning people at the stake and others as you have mentioned is not in the bible despite what some people may say.


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Posted 04 January 2008 - 02:09 AM

QUOTE(LC_Rock @ Jan 3 2008, 04:12 PM)
QUOTE(AutonomousOne1980 @ Jan 3 2008, 02:24 AM)
QUOTE(Jess @ Jan 1 2008, 05:09 PM)
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AutonomousOne1980 date='Jan 1 2008, 04:40 PM'
avoid doubting anything that isnt proved to be untrue

So logically, you must believe in God? Sweet smile.gif


i dont believe 100% until there is conclusive evidence
i wont believe in its non existence until there is proof, so this way anything is possible but i ask, what is probable that we can bet on ?

so god could exist, if you could only define god that is.
proof of gods existence may lie in the very definition of god.

so what exactly are we looking for? an organizing intelligence? or an old man in the sky?
[indent=1]
QUOTE
I believe that as a Christian that I just can't put my trust into man's theories and knowledge. What can man do to me? Nothing. So I trust in the Lord.


then you can never drive a car again, nor operate a computer. science and mans inquisitiveness has ended more suffering on this earth then religion. Constant shame and guilt is suffering.

science and reason is a religion and a way of life, to me. you are probably more a part of this religion without being aware of it, then you are of the one you seem to be aware of. umm i think ha!! you are using a computer right now arent you? then you are realizing the fruits of science as a way to improve life and end suffering.



Can never drive a car again or operate a computer if you don't trust fully in science and accept it as a religion? I am so sick of this crap!

You can sit and take all the bad things bad religion has done and use it as a weapon to attack others, but know that people could also do the same thing to science. What about those who invented the atomic bomb or want to clone human beings for thier own selfish, vain endevors?

People do bad things, burning people at the stake and others as you have mentioned is not in the bible despite what some people may say.



haha!! yes you are so right!!

i was thinking about that since i wrote this yesterday, many powerful things that are used for evil come from science i dont know why it didnt occur to me at the time!

but i dont know what you mean by trust in the lord over trusting in men then, and mans theories about the world, even though many theorys by men, are only to discover how"the lord" works, and has little to do with the man himself, nature reveals its true nature to humans that seek to find it, all we do is put the pieces together, the creator doesnt have a handbook to the way things work, we are writing it right now.

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 02:29 AM

i hope 1 day they will find a cure

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 05:47 AM

QUOTE (Mr.Envious @ Jan 3 2008, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Science pwns God!

Science gave me pain relievers...
God expects me to pray and live with my pain!

God's love is a lie!


wrong buddy

God gave us knowledge, knowledge lead to science, science then lead to pain relievers. God is out there but people who pray for an answer rather than using the knowledge God gave us are dreaming.


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Posted 09 January 2008 - 08:08 PM

Can you leave your off-topic delusions out of this thread?




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