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[Swits]

i just started taking l-taurine supplments. 2000mg a day. so far i noticed i havent been breaking out from eating bad food. i can go to mcdonalds and eat ice cream without breaking out the next day. im going to up the dosage after im finished with the rest of my fish oil tablets

[40hereIcome]

This is slightly off topic but I suffer acne and hairloss. I've been
researching Taurine and it seems to helps with hairloss. Just wondered
if anyone using it has noticed any improvements in hair growth.

[LiliVG]

This is slightly off topic but I suffer acne and hairloss. I've been
researching Taurine and it seems to helps with hairloss. Just wondered
if anyone using it has noticed any improvements in hair growth.

I've seen a couple people mention that taurine helped their hairloss on this site. Taurine is a common ingredient in hairloss supplements I believe, it certainly can't hurt.

[EddieE]

Note: When I refer to Fructose I am for the most part referring to the fructose in refined sugars, not fruit. I know most people mostly associate fructose with fruit, but the western diet's main source of fructose is in the form of refined sugars by far, not fruit. There aren't many people in the western world that can be accused of eating too much fruit, in fact it's usually the opposite. However, some have found that eating a lot of fruit can break them out, so try to eat fruit in moderation.

I eat lots of fruits , doesn't gimme acne...

maybe some people eat WAY to much...

I eat 3-5 red apples ( gala ) a day..

some grapes , and 1-2 banana.. ( on smoothies only with spinach )

and 1 kiwi sometime..

not sure if this is to much but it helps me


I avoided eggs , meats.. I eat 100% healthy .

I never feel sick , never get tired while working ,... etc

Oh and I am getting clear. ,

when i notice losing to much weight gonna buy nuts , meats... ;/
arghhhh

[Megan Courtney]

lilivg,

since you are taking out alot of foods from your diet,
what do you eat?, i am trying to cut down from sugars and other food,
but what is your daily meals?

i am not sure if someone asked this already.

[LiliVG]

lilivg,

since you are taking out alot of foods from your diet,
what do you eat?, i am trying to cut down from sugars and other food,
but what is your daily meals?

i am not sure if someone asked this already.

Meat and frozen vegetables for main meals.
The key to making it not be incredibly boring is spices, sauces and gravies.

a good breakfast would be eggs, sausage, and a piece of whole wheat organic toast with butter, and some rice milk to drink. I try to make sure to get a good high protein breakfast.

I also like simple open faced sandwiches, like hard boiled eggs sliced on whole wheat bread and mayonnaise.

Some recipes I use (All of these are usually served with a side of heated frozen veggies with salt, pepper and butter, or sometimes topped with grated cheddar cheese or parmesan) The number of people each of these recipes serves varies a bit:


Ginger garlic lemon sauce I make for chicken or fish over brown rice:

4 frozen chicken tenderloins
3 cloves of garlic,
1 inch chunk of fresh ginger
1 tablespoon tapioca flour (or rice flour if you prefer)
1 fresh lemon
1 teaspoon salt,
1/2 tsp pepper
water
2-3 tablespoons butter
1-2 tablespoons of capers (optional)

Cook about 1 cup brown rice, usual way, nothing special. Do this first because brown rice takes about 45 minutes to cook. 1 cup brown rice + 2 cups water, simmer for 45 minutes with lid on. Don't stir it while it cooks or it'll turn to mush. Add salt and butter if you'd like. While this is cooking, you can cook everything else.

Get your frozen chicken tenderloins, and put them in a pan with about an inch of water, and let it simmer until the tenderloins aren't frozen anymore. You'll probably have to turn them over once during that process. Next, take 3 cloves of garlic, cut off a piece of fresh ginger about an inch long, about 1/2 cup of water and 1 tablespoon of tapioca flour, and mix it in a blender until it's a mostly smooth liquid. Add this liquid to the still simmering chicken tenderloins with 2-3 tbsps of butter, making sure to keep the liquid moving so the tapioca doesn't all gel at the bottom of the pan instead of thickening your sauce, and mixing in the melting butter. When the sauce has thickened, it will go from being white to being almost clear but kind of foggy. At this point, turn off the heat, remove pan from the stove, and add the juice from 1 whole lemon, and mix it in with the sauce. Add your capers at this point if you like. Serve the chicken over the rice and pour some sauce over it.


Steak:

1 steak
water
garlic powder
onion powder
salt
pepper
thyme powder
2-3 tablespoons butter

Sear the steak on both sides to brown it, and then after it's nicely browned on the outside on both sides, add water, butter, salt, pepper, garlic, onion and thyme (I have all these spices as dry powder spices in my cabinet so it's really fast to put together - a dash here, a dash there and you're done) with the steak, cover the pan with a lid and let it simmer until the steak is cooked through to your preference. Remove the steak, and add tapioca or rice flour and heat until thickened, and then pour this gravy over your steak.


Simple hypoallergenic pesto recipe:

1-2 cups of rice noodles by Tinkyada (the only brand I've found that doesn't fall apart)
4 oz of Extra virgin olive oil
4 oz of fresh basil leaves
1 tsp salt
1/2 tsp pepper
3 cloves of garlic
add some water if you like to stretch it out.

Boil noodles according to package directions: add noodles to water, set on high and boil for 15 minutes, then drain.

In a food processor, mix basil, garlic, olive oil, salt, and pepper and blend until smooth. Pour this sauce over your noodles, and add Parmesan cheese if you like. I usually like to add some meat this this dish too, like chicken or sliced steak.


Chicken Marinara:

4 frozen Chicken tenderloins
1 jar of marinara sauce
grated cheese
fresh basil leaves, chopped

served over noodles or rice

cook some frozen chicken tenderloins or thighs in a couple inches of water until thawed, but not cooked through.
Add the jar of marinara sauce to the chicken, and let it simmer until the chicken is cooked through. Chop a small handful of fresh basil leaves and mix it into the sauce, and let it simmer for 1 minute. Make a bed of rice or noodles on a plate,place the chicken on top, and pour the sauce over it. Top with grated cheddar or Parmesan cheese.


Spinach egg scramble:

2 cups of frozen chopped spinach
4 eggs
2-3 cloves of fresh garlic
1/2 cup of grated Parmesan
salt and pepper to taste

Heat the frozen spinach in a pan until thawed and heated through, and let the extra water boil off (but be careful not to let the spinach burn). Add the 4 eggs, 3 cloves of fresh chopped garlic, salt and pepper, and mix continuously as it cooks. When the eggs are cooked to your preference, add the Parmesan and mix loosely. Enjoy!

[Greeneyes987]

Hi Lili..

I'm taking six 500mg Taurines a day so..3grams of it a day! Is that enough to have an effect? Also..I buy it from my local health food store and they only have it in their own brand, plus it's pretty expensive ($11 for 100 capsules). So, do you think it's as good as a grocery store brand or something less costly? Recommendations are much appreciated..

[LiliVG]

Hi Lili..

I'm taking six 500mg Taurines a day so..3grams of it a day! Is that enough to have an effect? Also..I buy it from my local health food store and they only have it in their own brand, plus it's pretty expensive ($11 for 100 capsules). So, do you think it's as good as a grocery store brand or something less costly? Recommendations are much appreciated..

You can definitely get it for less than that. The one I get is by Now Foods, 1000mg capsules 100 caps.

You can check average prices on Amazon, that's where I buy supplements if I can't find them at my health food store:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&am...p;creative=9325

[rakbs]

I just read through this incredible page that talks about magnesium and taurine: http://george-eby-research.com/html/depression-anxiety.html

I suggest just Ctrl+F'ing.

It doesn't talk about acne as far as I know, but it's useful nonetheless.

[LiliVG]

I think I linked to that page at some point a while back in the thread. LOTS of info there!

[clpersonal]

Not sure if this has been posted yet. But I wonder if taurine bromamine topicals are available on the market yet?

TAURINE BROMAMINE FOR INHIBITING PATHOGENIC BACTERIA AND FUNGI GROWTH AS WELL AS IN A MICROBICIDAL COMPOSITION
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?IA=PL2...mp;DISPLAY=DESC
METHOD FOR INHIBITING PATHOGENIC BACTERIA AND FUNGI GROWTH AND MICROBICIDAL COMPOSITION TECHNICAL FIELD The present invention relates to a method for inhibiting pathogenic bacteria and fungi growth and a microbicidal composition to be applied in the treatment of dermal diseases and associated diseases attributable, among others causative factors to propionibacterium types, particularly in the treatment of common acne (Acne vulgaris) as well as a composition comprising taurine, and its uses in filed of cosmetics and/or pharmacology, especially dermatology.


BEST MODE FOR CARRYING OUT THE INVENTION It is known that taurine chloramine [TauCI] (N-chloro taurine) has bactericidal properties. Its effect has been described in Hyg. Med. 18,330-326, 1992. During the studies, it has been found, unexpectedly, that taurine bromamine [TauBr] (N-bromo taurine), which shows much stronger bactericidal activity than taurine chloramine [TauCI], produces a bactericidal effect on bacteria of Propionibacterium types, which are one of etiological factors of common acne (Acne vulgaris). Moreover, it turned out that taurine bromamine does not destroy the whole bacterial flora but acts selectively in certain conditions.

[janus]

I think I linked to that page at some point a while back in the thread. LOTS of info there!

Ive just stated takeing bromelain and taurine 2x500 bromelain and about 1 grams taurine
2x a day. I have only been on it for a small week, and haven't noticed any real improvement yet
I buy the NOW Foods tauine powder and NOW Foods bromelain 500mg its dirt cheap, so its definitely wort a try. will report back how it turns out, good ore bad
5% discount code for iherb
KIX143

ps: Taurine capsules are a total rip off, just buy a big cane and it will last you a long time

[LiliVG]

I think I linked to that page at some point a while back in the thread. LOTS of info there!

Ive just stated takeing bromelain and taurine 2x500 bromelain and about 1 grams taurine
2x a day. I have only been on it for a small week, and haven't noticed any real improvement yet
I buy the NOW Foods tauine powder and NOW Foods bromelain 500mg its dirt cheap, so its definitely wort a try. will report back how it turns out, good ore bad
5% discount code for iherb
KIX143

ps: Taurine capsules are a total rip off, just buy a big cane and it will last you a long time

Some people have noticed that a magnesium supplement will make them break out. I noticed that myself too. It's possible you're negating the benefits of the taurine with the magnesium.

Powder is definitely cheaper than capsules. I have both powder and capsules so I can take some with me when I go out, but I use the powder when I'm at home.

[janus]

I think I linked to that page at some point a while back in the thread. LOTS of info there!

Ive just stated takeing bromelain and taurine 2x500 bromelain and about 1 grams taurine
2x a day. I have only been on it for a small week, and haven't noticed any real improvement yet
I buy the NOW Foods tauine powder and NOW Foods bromelain 500mg its dirt cheap, so its definitely wort a try. will report back how it turns out, good ore bad
5% discount code for iherb
KIX143

ps: Taurine capsules are a total rip off, just buy a big cane and it will last you a long time

Some people have noticed that a magnesium supplement will make them break out. I noticed that myself too. It's possible you're negating the benefits of the taurine with the magnesium.

Powder is definitely cheaper than capsules. I have both powder and capsules so I can take some with me when I go out, but I use the powder when I'm at home.

yea I do take magnesium, but only a few days a week together whit zink, but you could be right
But I think its much much to early for me to make any conclusion

[EaZy]

I heard that 1 in 3 people have a fructose intolerance

3 out of 4 have a dairy intolerance

1 in 7 have gluten intolerance

1 in 3 have candida (yeast intolerance)

[dubnobass]

Hello. I am new here.
I would like to ask some questions to the people, especially LilliVG, who have successfully tried the taurine-cure. With successfull, I mean a 75 to 100% improvement since taking the taurine.

My questions are: what are the essentials? Ofcourse the taurine itself and a vit.b-complex. (Concerning this b-complex I wonder of brewer's yeast suffices?)

What about the vitamine D? Is this essential to the cure? I noticed how the I.U. are very high; is this still safe? Wouldn't you need to supplement with Calcium and Magnesium also? (quite important I think, when taking such high doses of vit.D). Would a considerably lower supplement of vit.D also work? Because indeed, this vitamine has certain properties which could be of considerable help to an acne-sufferer.

Also, what about the Glucomannan? Is this essential to the cure? Is this a replacement of the psyllium husks which I also read about on this forum? Does is have the same disadvantages (i.e. binding with minerals, nutrients...)?

And the HCl? And Cayenne? Are both needed, or is just taking the Cayenne also enough?

I am sorry for this high number of questions. I would already like to say I respect your knowledge and research.

Specifically to LilliVG: at this time, after your experience, what are the necessary supplements for the cure? There is a difference between the supplements listed in your signature and at the beginning of this thread.

Thanks in any case.

[LiliVG]

Hello. I am new here.
I would like to ask some questions to the people, especially LillyV, who have successfully tried the taurine-cure. With successfull, I mean a 75 to 100% improvement since taking the taurine.

My questions are: what are the essentials? Ofcourse the taurine itself and a vit.b-complex. (Concerning this b-complex I wonder of brewer's yeast suffices?)

What about the vitamine D? Is this essential to the cure? I noticed how the I.U. are very high; is this still safe? Wouldn't you need to supplement with Calcium and Magnesium also? (quite important I think, when taking such high doses of vit.D). Would a considerably lower supplement of vit.D also work? Because indeed, this vitamine has certain properties which could be of considerable help to an acne-sufferer.

Also, what about the Glucomannan? Is this essential to the cure? Is this a replacement of the psyllium husks which I also read about on this forum? Does is have the same disadvantages (i.e. binding with minerals, nutrients...)?

And the HCl? And Cayenne? Are both needed, or is just taking the Cayenne also enough?

I am sorry for this high number of questions. I would already like to say I respect your knowledge and research.

Specifically to LillyV: at this time, after your experience, what are the necessary supplements for the cure? There is a difference between the supplements listed in your signature and at the beginning of this thread.

Thanks in any case.

I have found that brewers yeast in fact does work better than a b-complex, BUT, you have to eat several tablespoons of it every single day to see results. So for convenience-sake, and likelihood of people actually implementing it, I recommended a b complex. It's just so much easier to take that way, it's much more likely people will actually do it, and stick with it long enough to see a result. Besides that, some people avoid yeast or have an allergy to it, so a b-complex is more available to more people.

Glucomannan is better than psyllium because it doesn't bind to minerals the way psyllium does. Glucomannan doesn't contain phytic acid, which is the guilty party in that process. Also, psyllium speeds up how fast the food you eat passes through your system thereby reducing nutrient absorption. Glucomannan does the opposite. It slows everything down, so that the food you eat is absorbed more slowly and evenly over a longer period of time. This also slows and steadies the rate that sugar enters your blood stream, which prevents insulin spikes, which then prevents the whole hormone chain of events associated with that.

As for HCL, Cayenne, etc. I have replaced that with salt. Salt improves digestion like the other two do, but salt is also a natural antihistamine so it reduces inflammation, and salt is necessary for proper glucose metabolism. Studies have shown that a reduced sodium diet impairs glucose metabolism, and makes insulin resistance worse. In the ER, when a patient comes in with sky high blood glucose levels, they will put them on a sodium chloride IV drip to bring it back down to normal. I've noticed the majority of people on this forum believe that salt is unhealthy in general because of all the media about it in relation to hypertension. But if you don't have hypertension, there's no reason to avoid salt. In fact, another study found that those on a very low sodium diet were 4 times more likely to die of a stroke than those on a normal sodium level diet.

Vitamin D was added in later, it's not "essential" in a sense, but the research on it is so good, I put it in there. There's no doubt that there is a widespread vitamin D deficiency happening in the developed world, and Vitamin D has been shown to reduce hyper proliferation and improve insulin resistance, which is a key factor in the development of acne. The reason for the high levels of vitamin D is that recent study reviews strongly suggest that 400IU is not even close to enough to meet the daily needs of vitamin D. One study showed that 90% of mothers who took a prenatal vitamin with 400IU of vitamin D gave birth to vitamin d deficient babies. Another study found that the minimum supplement needed of vitamin D in order to bring vitamin D levels to the normal range was at minimum 1000-2000IU per day for an adult, and 400IU per day for a newborn. I've never found vitamin D to cure acne on it's own though. It's more of a "booster" than anything else. As for taking a calcium magnesium supplement, I don't necessarily recommend that because supplementing minerals is very tricky as there is a very precise balance of electrolytes in your system, and it can be upset easily, and that's not healthy at all. I've never had good result from taking mineral supplements. Vitamin D will naturally make you absorb more calcium anyway, so you definitely won't need to supplement that. Magnesium competes with blood sodium levels, so I don't recommend supplementing that, since it would neutralize the salt increase. Several people have made threads about how they started taking magnesium and they broke out. I've also experienced that.

The common theme through all of these is improved glucose metabolism, they all attack this problem from different directions.

So overall the regimen is this:

Taurine
b-complex (Or several tablespoons of brewer's yeast if you prefer)
increase salt intake
glucomannan with meals
vitamin d

[dubnobass]

Many thanks for your fast and very interesting reply.

Being curious as I am, I still have several questions.

Did the Cayenne not work out for you or other people, or did u simply decide salt to be easier to supplement? (I read another topic where you were very enthousiastic about the Cayenne, and I read several good things about it myself, so am interested in supplementing it).

Since it's all about controlling the insulin-levels, have you read about the properties that e.g. Chromium and Cinnamon have in that regard? These are two famous supplements that can treat, or atleast stabilize, diabetesII. Interesting is that Chromium is quite present in (quality) brewer's yeast. I am therefore thinking of keeping on taking my moderate yeast-intake for the chromium, and supplementing with a b-complex for the B's, that way not having to eat loads and loads of yeast..

When do U advice to take all these supplements? Glucomannan before each meal? I have read some discussions about when to take taurine, has there come a consensus since?

And finally: what kind of pills are you taking for the vit.D? Soft-gels (oil) or capsules (powder)?

[LiliVG]

Many thanks for your fast and very interesting reply.

Being curious as I am, I still have several questions.

Did the Cayenne not work out for you or other people, or did u simply decide salt to be easier to supplement? (I read another topic where you were very enthousiastic about the Cayenne, and I read several good things about it myself, so am interested in supplementing it).

Since it's all about controlling the insulin-levels, have you read about the properties that e.g. Chromium and Cinnamon have in that regard? These are two famous supplements that can treat, or atleast stabilize, diabetesII. Interesting is that Chromium is quite present in (quality) brewer's yeast. I am therefore thinking of keeping on taking my moderate yeast-intake for the chromium, and supplementing with a b-complex for the B's, that way not having to eat loads and loads of yeast..

When do U advice to take all these supplements? Glucomannan before each meal? I have read some discussions about when to take taurine, has there come a consensus since?

And finally: what kind of pills are you taking for the vit.D? Soft-gels (oil) or capsules (powder)?

Cayenne is good, it's just that some people stopped taking it because it was a bit much for their stomach to handle. For me it sometimes gave me a stomach ache if I didn't drink enough water. I just found that salt does what the cayenne was intended to do, which is stimulate stomach acid production, but also comes with a host of other benefits as well, such as being a natural antihistamine, and improving glucose metabolism, neither of which cayenne can do. I did find that the chronic lower abdominal pain I've had a problem with the last few years went away when I was taking cayenne, and came right back when I stopped taking it. But the stomach aches could be pretty intense, so it's a trade there for me.

Chromium has a solid record for helping with glucose metabolism, so much so that even doctors don't recommend mixing diabetic medication and chromium supplementation since it can be too effective, giving a diabetic a whole new set of problems. I don't think anyone on this board has cleared themselves with chromium alone that I can recall, but I've seen plenty of people say that it has helped them.

Cinnamon has helped people with their acne, but the problem with cinnamon is that it is a strong allergy-inducer. A high percentage of people who are exposed to cinnamon over an extended period develop an immune reaction to it. For me, it eventually gave me eczema. If you think acne is bad alone, try having acne AND eczema at the same time. I didn't leave the house for a month, lol. Primarily I think the way cinnamon works is that it is a natural antibiotic. But the component in cinnamon that makes it antibiotic is cinnamaldehyde, a polyphenol, which can cause liver damage and scarring over time. As far as cinnamon as glucose metabolism, the connection is disputed by some because it was shown to work in some studies, and shown to not work in others, so it's inconclusive at this point I believe. But given the risks with cinnamon supplementation, I don't think it's an ideal way to go.

The Glucomannan can be taken with your meals, since it dissolves and gels immediately. There's no need to take it 1/2 hour prior to your meal like with other fiber supplements.

There is no real consensus on when it's best to take taurine, with or between meals. I've heard both, so I'm not sure. I wish I could be more helpful, but I've heard equal arguments on both sides.

I've always taken vitamin D in oil capsules. I have never taken a tablet form of vitamin D, and I don't know what the benefit of doing so would be. I just found that the oil supplement was cheaper, and didn't have all the fillers that tablets had.

[dubnobass]

Thanks once again for your reply. I think I'll buy the Cayenne anyway to see how I handle it.

Also I am interested in the Glucomannan, but it's confusing: when you take the supplements with your food, it could be they are not digested properly because of the glucomannan? That would ofcouse be a shame

As I read in this thread, an important part of this taurine-regimen is not to eat sweets (candy, cookies, all that). And you can still eat fruit, only with some moderation? It's strange that fructose is the culprit, because I allways thought glucose to have a much higher impact on the bloodsugarlevels.

Anyway, as I see it, this low-sugar diet + taurine (+ vit B) - diet can potentially get you clear, but when you divert from the diet, you need glucomannan? Or is the glucomannan also an essential part of the regimen?

Sorry for the many questions. As probably many here I suffer acne for many years now and recently stumbled across this thread because of my zillionth google search for help. This thread appealed instantly.

Anyway, right now I eat quite healthy (have been doing so for years), been recently taking the yeast and even more recently taurine (1,5 g building it up to 3). Also some cod liver-pills (but they only contain a fraction of the Vit.D-amount you recommend). My type of acne is very rare by the way, I might start a thread on that, to see someone out there has the same type (havent met anyone sofar, neither have the doctors).