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[seb_derm]

thanks Jennie1214...
wow this tersi foam thing does sound amazing it directly targets the malassezia yeast thus by reducing its population...wht dosage has the doc prescribed u, do u apply it twice or once a day and how often u apply it everyday or alternate day, is it safe to use this stuff for long term. when u applied this 1st time wht sensation did ur skin feel i mean was it itchy, cool, burning and...... wht was it?
well definately this stuff isnt available in India...
could plz... post up pics of ur problem would be much easier for me decide well u know wht i havent started treating my sd as yet if u mite have read my prev post on this topic u will know wht im goin thru, till now in these 5-6 mnths i have spent min $400 in finding the right doc and the right treatment im completely paranoid i dnt know wht to do?

[seb_derm]

Ihsahn
did u notice my recent pic which i posted wht do u think is my skin improving or not, my present concern is redness and oiliness on my nose in the evenings...well im waiting for my appt on 5th nov gettin ready to hear her shouting coz i havent started off with her given med and this is for the 4th time im goin to her like this without starting any med...

[Ihsahn]

yeah i saw ur recent pic and u look fine.As i mentioned before cutivate and prob flutivate will get rid of it for sure-redness.The thing with sd is it comes back unless u totally control but rite now u seem fine.See if ur gnna leave it hanging and just incase you get a bad flare up,you may recover with hypopigmentation (pih) which takes long time to get in the same surrounding skin tone an never will match up so be careful.I only see problems in ur nose ,rest of the face seems acne related but its v difficult to jugde sd through pics cause the flakes and redness can mainly be seen much better from up close. Good luck hope everything gets better.

[seb_derm]

hey Ihsahn im having an appt of a derm in 2days the one who has prescribed me elidel, mino, fucidin h cream im making a qs list in which i need ur help
1) elidel is it safe to use for long term despite of skin cancer chances
2) elidel along with acne antibiotic does it makes skin sun sensitive
3) fucidin h cream if used for a mild case of sd how many % chances are there it coming bck with a worst flare up
4) how diff is flutivate frm it wht is the mechanism of both on the skin ( i mean flutivate and fucidin h )
5) any natural products available for sd which is completely safe with no risk of side effects and equally effective like elidel and protopic
6) any otc treatments available for sd like light therapy, peels or sumthin...
plz... give sum inputs wht ever u feel like if u have any qs which u would like to ask plz be free and post it

[Ihsahn]

I think you got enough questions and the rite ones but beware your derm might get pissed,some derms like to control their patient & dont like the fact that patient knows so much hehe.

Eczema,Sd,dermatitis are all so easy to control (unless v severe/chronic),its unfo. that we experiment too much & dont use the med given prop or not guided by the doc prop.

In my opinion do not use elidel over 1 month even if your doc says so.Just when u clear up which should be within 7-10 days -if u only use elidel -apply it for another 2 weeks after complete clearance. I got totally clear from a terrible flare up where every part of my face was red like a tomato and every cm of my face peeling,it looked like teabags coming out of my face,compared to that you have nothing and all it took me was 7 days to be totally cleared up.All i did was use cutivate for 7 days and after clearance protopic for 20 days maintanence and thats the tradtional way to treat - now i look even better than how i looked before my flare up.

If fucidin h is hydrocrtisone its useless.Seriously i would use a class one steroid like Clobetasol propionate for 2 days and totally clear up than use this junk thinking hydro is safer- when its so mild how do ppl expect it to treat the prob. for long term.

And if flutivate is exactly as cutivate then its about 150 times more potent than hydro but very poorly absorbed by the skin compared to other steroids of same strength,they say its as poor as hydrocor. so skin thinning or atrophy is almost out of the question if used properly.

The only other way my face looks good is when i jog and sweat ,it gives me mild acne on occasions but my whole face just glows prob cause of the good blood flow.

Keep us posted on what your doctor says and good luck with ur app. and everything.Let us also know the treatment u choose .

[Jennie1214]

Hi, the tersi foam only comes in one strength... 2.5% selenium sulfide.

I dont have any pictures that would show you how bad my SD was. I never take pictures that up close. However, it was always red, inflamed, itchy and sometimes i would scratch it so bad that i'd have minor cuts and scratches on my face. The SD on my cheeks and nose would get really bad and you could literally see the build up of grease and dead skin. based on your picture, i would say you have a real mild case of SD compared to me.

anyhow, when you put on the tersi foam, there is no pain or stinging or any sensation at all. i noticed after a few days to a week that the peeling and itching sensation of my skin went away. also my skin got much thicker in a good way since it wasnt peeling any more. this drug definately built the natural barrier system of my skin and this is the only medication for SD that i used that helped me. if tersi is not available for you, maybe you can try something else with the same active ingredient of selenium sulfide.

to finish answering your questions, i used it straight for 2 weeks once a day.
once i noticed that i had no more scaling of the skin, i stopped using it. the SD on my cheeks went away completely but after a week of no medication, the skin on my nose starts building up. so i guess for now, i use it once a day, once or twice a week.

i'm hoping that this will cure my nose eventually. it did cure my cheeks!

[seb_derm]

thanks for ur reply Jennie1214
no there aint any products available in india tht has selenium sulfide in it...ive sent a mail to the quinnova and have asked them if they could ship tersi foam for me...

[seb_derm]

hey Ihsahn
i went for my derms appt, firstly she was very wild at me coz this was for the 4th time i was visiting her without starting any med, she had a close look at my face finally after discussing for abt 15-20 mins she told me to start with elidel and said i dnt need to use fucidin-h cream, prescribed me a antifungal tab (fluticasone), and minocycline 100 mg and requested me start with med and she even said tht she will congratulate me if i start with the medications...hopefully i am starting with the medications tonite...i need all the possible good luck i feel im starting a mission frm today...well i need to forget flutivate completely which the other derm had prescribed me...

[Ihsahn]

yeah you shouldnt wait on the med cause leaving it in the middle can cause you a big flare up.
Did she answer all your questions?.Antibiotics and antifungals together again sound v weird to me-but your doc knows best.From what i saw in your pics- elidel is enough to clear everything-if you have a flare up you will need to use a steroid first.Did you ask her about cancer and skin sensitivity from antibiotics and elidel together?.Your acne looks mild and can be controlled by any topical used properly.Anyway do what the doc says and hope everything goes great good luck.For elidel it may sting you and make you red after you apply to 2 hrs from application for the first 2-3 days-youll be fine in the morning.Dont give up you may itch like hell as well control yourself,if its extreme check with the doc you may be allergic .

[martie]

You were asking for possible natural remedies for SD and rosacea.
I just found a website with several of them, haven't tried them yet, but definately will.

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/rosacea.html OR
http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/seborrheic_dermatitis.html OR
http://www.rosacea-ltd.com/rosaceadiet.php3

Also, I imagine you'd have amazing ayurvedic doctors in India whom I'm sure would be able to help you. Especially rosacea seems to be an obivous pitta condition that any ayuvedic doctor should know how to alleviate...
Good luck!

[seb_derm]

yeah she answered almost all my qs,
antifungal is a single dose and after 3 days i have to start on minocycline (100) 1s a day, 'elidel' i asked her abt the cancer risk but she say i just have to use it for 15 days abt the skin sensitivity thing she told me to avoid sunlight as much as possible she has given me a sunscreen of her clinic incase i go out. no i havent asked her abt mino and elidel wht will the combination do she jus told me mino will help reduce redness and will control my mild pimples not coming to head. il do a patch test for elidel for 2-3 nights ok dude tell me when u started ur first application of elidel how long did u keep it on and while applying it on the face do u have to rub it in circular motion or just apply it downwards upwards motion...
ive got my next appt in 20 days...
thanks

[seb_derm]

hey martie
i have been to a ayurvedic doctor too, tht time my skin wasnt in a position for any treatments so he put me on sum tabs and sum tonic which i took for a mnth then i got bored of it wasnt even helping so i left it, he had asked me go for 1 treatment in which it cleanses ur body frm inside completely but after he saw my prev reports tht i had been treated for blood cancer he denied me frm availing the treatment.
ive been taking homeopathic medicines also but i dnt feel so its helping.

[Ihsahn]

it depends on how many times she gave you to use,i used to use it only once at night but for some people its morning and night.I had no particular way to put it on,just took a bit and rubbed it slightly on the places of sd,I used to put approx 2 hrs before sleeping then wash it in the morning so about 10-12 hrs.Usually you should apply it for 7-15 after complete clearance but for you i think 15 days is fine.Mino will make you senstive to sun be careful and get a good 30 plus spf sun protection.Good luck hope everything works out well.

[seb_derm]

thanks il be very careful, im advised to use elidel only 1s day bfore bed...

[Ihsahn]

Good luck,you will be amazed at how clear your face will be in a few days from anything related with SD.Just don't take any herbal medicine or anything else from your side while you are on this medication/s,not even aloe vera or a moisturizer unless your doc has told you to.All you need is sunprotection.Also just incase ,don't take orlistat/alli weight loss pills as long as you are using elidel,you prob aren't but just to let you know to be on the safe side.

[seb_derm]

im gonna start on amino acid powder and my protien supplement is it safe to take along with my med...i need to gain weight im jus 48kgs...

hows ur skin is elidel helping u????

[seb_derm]

do u know any nice mild gentle cleanser for sd not cetaphil it dint work for me presently im using a some soap it has olive oil, aloe vera, palm oil, coconut oil, glycerine and kokum butter in it.

[Ihsahn]

i wouldnt use any supplements while taking elidel even though there might be no probs but still just to be safe.If your doc hasn't given you any,you really don't need a cleanser just water is enough but still if you feel greasy etc you can use johnson baby soap 2wice a day but dont leave it on more than 20 seconds,use after sweating alot to,sweating really helps with sd. I havent used elidel in 5 years,i recently used protopic for 24 days which is similar to elidel,i was clear from cutivate anyway just to make sure it doesnt come back i had a bad flare up though.
When i used elidel back then i was totally clear.

[jagster]

hi all.ive suffered with sd for years now.its mainly on my nose and chin.my nose goes red especially when its greasy.ive controlled it i bit by using selsun shampoo on my hair for the dandruff.the selsun works good but its not really for regular use so lookin for another shampoo for in between uses?i use oc8 on my nose to stop the grease which makes the redness go away for a good few hours.am always lookin for somethin better.hopefully to make the redness go away permenant.im sure the redness is to do with how oily my nose and chin gets.was thinkin about goin to the docters and askin for this cutivate cream if this wud help?also was wondering what shampoo do you all use regulary for your sd? thanks.

[Ihsahn]

Hi jagstar.Unoft. dandruff in the scalp is almost impossible to treat completely ,its a sign that you prob have moderate Sd.Tar shampoos like Tgel can clear it but there is a risk if used for long term can cause your hair to become grey v quick.Anyway most shampoos help but when you stop they come back later on so there is no real way to treat it.You can try antifungal treatments like nizoral,sporanox etc. but even that may not help or be temporary.

The regimen i use helped me stay away from it the longest but it did come back,but after a long time and not like before.I used betadine skin/scalp cleanser as my shampoo 2 days a week and betnovate scalp application -the first 5 days i used it morning and night then the next 7 days once a day then the next few weeks twice a week.But betnovate is a steroid so you have to be a bit careful.But if you dont want to do this i find the ducray shampoo v good but as i said once stopped it will eventually come back.

Oc8 is the best oil reducing/acne product ive used,its fabulous no acne and normal non oily skin but while you have Sd its not wise to apply until pretty much clear.I doubt it will help the redness it will make you look better though,i feel the oil makes the redness look worse.

Cutivate will clear your redness peeling in 4-5 days but chances are it will come back later on but ch less,so you may also need elidel or protopic to make sure its totally in control for a long time.Your doc will know best what kind of treatment you will need specially since diff people have diff degree of SD.Hope everything goes well for you good luck.