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#41 radikal

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 05:39 AM

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Incidence of acne in Western Countries
Adolescents: 79% to 95%
Older than 25: 40% to 54%
Middle aged: 3% to 12%
Incidence of acne in underdeveloped countries: often 0%
Cordain L. Acne vulgaris: a disease of Western civilization. Arch Dermatol. 2002 Dec;138(12):1584-90.


For those of you interested in how to change the keratin process, try looking at underdeveloped countries for an answer. McDougall writes a very interesting article, though old, it cites many sources. His article is titled "Acne Has Nothing to Do with Diet = Wrong!": http://www.nealhendrickson.com/mcdougall/031100puacne.htm

Michael Russell offers us with some insight:
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Acne vulgaris is a skin disease that affects between 79% and 95% of the population in America and Europe. Even adult men and women, between 40% and 54% of them, have some kind of acne. After the age of 45, 12% of women and 3% of men still suffer from this affliction.

In the United States there are about 50 million individuals affected by this skin disease. There it is not only present in adolescents, but in children and adults alike. Of those adults older than 25 years 54% of women and 40% of men complain about some kind of acne. About 10% of them battle until late middle age with this problem. These statistics are about the same as those found in studies carried out 20 years ago.

Statistics vary considerably when dealing with children between 10 and 12.Some studies put the number of children suffering from acne in this age group at 30%, whereas other researchers say that it is up to 60%. There is less discrepancy however when dealing with adolescents who are between 16 and 18 years old. Studies agree that the percentage there lies between 79% to 95%.

In Caucasian populations even a significant number of children between 4 and 7 years of age are in medical treatment because of acne. It is therefore clear that acne is a widespread disease in light-skinned societies, where it not only affects young children and adolescents, but a significant portion of people 25 years and older.

In African and Asian societies there are far less people, adolescents or adults alike, that have some kind of facial acne: only 2%. This is not so only because of hereditary factors. The generally more polluted environments in America and Europe play an important role in the far higher incidence of facial acne in Western societies.

Even though there are only a few studies that deal with acne in underdeveloped societies the results in this research show that acne is far more prevalent in industrialized nations. This is most likely due to dietary habits. People in the West are very fond of dairy products, of alcohol, coffee and tea, products rich in fat like margarine and cooking oils, cereals and sugar, all of which are detrimental to health when eaten in excess. People in Africa or South America, for example, eat far more fruit and vegetables, have a lower fat intake and eat more food with a higher percentage of carbohydrates.

Studies carried out in South Africa, for example, showed that the incidence of acne was far lower in the Bantu population than among whites. Both ethnic groups reside in the area of Pretoria. Only 16% of Bantu adolescents suffered from acne whereas 45% of the white teenagers were afflicted with it. Taking into consideration all age groups in this sample, only 2% of the natives had acne, compared to 10% of the whites. Among other tribes it was suggested that acne as a widespread problem only surfaced when those people left their rural villages and moved closer to urbanized areas or cities.

Since the early 1980s a lot of evidence has been gathered that demonstrates that native populations getting in contact with Western civilization usually suffer from an overall health perspective and this is definitely true in the case of skin diseases such as acne.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Acne-in-Underdev...s&id=234666


Perhaps the "peculiar change" in the lining of our pores have to do with diet. None the less I still want to find ways to deal with this peculiar change topically. So, my search for information continues...



same old same old bs. Countering a flawed old study with equally flawed and selective data (which is not even a study, but half-assed data points).
How is not equally or more probable that "Western" generally means Caucasian, and there is a genetic root cause that first sprung in Caucasian populations; while "under-developed" generally means non-Caucasian?
Is that a too politically incorrect thing for health practitioners to even reason about?

Not to say that diet doesn't influence one's HEALTH. Of course it does; just not acne.

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 05:36 AM

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I think the cell turnover problem has to be addressed from start to end, meaning you can't let it start and then try to remove it because you'll never be totally cleared. i don't think aha can really get into the pores very far if a plug is already there. And from what I've read, the plug becomes almost glue-like in that it's very difficult to dissolve once it's formed. You've got to make your skin keratinize properly from the start so no plug gets a chance to form in the first place. I read somewhere that the making of a pimple can be 5 months or more in the making, starting with the tiny almost invisible plug of cells, and it's all downhill from there. If your skin increases it's own cell turnover, those little plugs will be pushed out on their own naturally. AHA mostly just removes the dead skin cells that are already there, but if your cell turnover process isn't working right, it won't induce the proper cell turnover necessary to clear your skin.


I knew it! That's why all acne treatments take so damn long to work and why you get those evil initial outbreaks. Anyone know what supplements work best to normalize keratinization? I tried taking high doses of fish oil/evening primrose oil/flax/cod liver oil for about 3 months with no effect on the number of clogged pores...

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 04:15 AM

QUOTE (radikal @ Jul 26 2008, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
same old same old bs. Countering a flawed old study with equally flawed and selective data (which is not even a study, but half-assed data points).
How is not equally or more probable that "Western" generally means Caucasian, and there is a genetic root cause that first sprung in Caucasian populations; while "under-developed" generally means non-Caucasian?
Is that a too politically incorrect thing for health practitioners to even reason about?

Not to say that diet doesn't influence one's HEALTH. Of course it does; just not acne.


I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here but I don't think the article was making a commentary on caucasian genetics as much as it was making a commentary on the food processing industry more prevalent in westernized nations (IE: refined sugars, etc...)
I believe the term "Western" is designated to mean a Tertiary society with processed and packaged foods being the norm as opposed to fresh foods picked off a farm, fished out of a river... etc.

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 11:42 AM

What do you guys think is the main cause of over keratinization?

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 11:03 AM

From Wikipedia
Hyperkeratinization is a disorder of the cells lining the inside of a hair follicle. It is the normal function of these cells to detach or slough off (desquamate) from the skin lining at normal intervals. The dead cells are then forced out of the follicle (primarily by the growing hair). However, in hyperkeratinization, this process is interrupted and a number of these dead skin cells do not leave the follicle because of an excess of keratin, a natural protein found in the skin. This excess of keratin, which is influenced by genetics, results in an increased adherence/bonding of dead skin cells together. This cohesion of cells will block or "cap" the hair follicle (leading to keratosis pilaris) or clog the sebaceous/oil duct (leading to acne).

Acne develops as a result of blockages in follicles. Hyperkeratinization and formation of a plug of keratin and sebum (a microcomedo) is the earliest change.

This may explain connection between genetics and acne
And the first stage of acne






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