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[SubState]

Hi,

I've looked around a lot the last couple of days because I was very interested if a pattern could be found since there's a complete lack of scientific articles about this subject.

It seems to be that in most cases the hairloss starts when the b5-intake is stopped, this made me think again,

- it could be, like I said, due to a biotin deficiency and the interaction with b5 completely uses up the biotin. This leads to hairloss in some cases.

- As many experts believe that b5 can be used for hairgrowth it could also be that somehow your body gets dependent to b5 (or numb, as you can put it), so while you're on b5 your hair grows fine, since enough b5 is supplemented. As soon as you get off b5 the supplement is gone but your body is still "numb". Maybe to not experience hairloss you should very slowly build your b5 intake down to zero?

Heck, it could be something completely different. Although I'm still quite sure there is a correlation between b5 and hairloss.

Could future posters on this thread that experience(d) hairloss please state the duration of their treatment, the time after you noticed it (was it 4 months after you started or a couple of weeks after you stopped using it (if you did)) and the supplements taken with b5..

Cheers,

Substate

[pam_B]

I was megadosing b5 (20 a day) for a whole year up untill march.I started noticing hair loss and dryer skin after i stopped taking them which was about 3 or 4 months later,june/july time.I took no other supplements with b5

[ShirleyB]

I wonder if people taking a lower dose like 1-3g a day would see much less or even zero side effects and yet still get the desire clear skin...

[Butch_]

anyways, this didn't work. and it apparently fucked up my liver too. after about a week +- and a couple days, i went to the derm/doctor and had a urine and blood test done. anyways, after i visited the derm/doctor a couple months after the test, everything was in order, but the doc noted some issue w/ my liver, not sure how.

in any case, i figured it was the b5 megadose. that shit didn't work for me, so =/.

[stm1975]

I'm going to start to ween down from my 6g of B5, after only a couple of days I noticed my hair was more easily falling out. I'm going to start taking biotin now, and go back down to 4.5g a day. I hope to see less hair falling out.

[stm1975]

Hey all,,

I am actually down to 1.5-2g a day, and my face is looking much better. PROBLEM, The hairloss, I definitely noticed some extra hair in the shower drain, and I'm starting to worry a bit. I started taking biotin a couple days ago, I'm now taking 2 pills a day.

Has anyone ever tried pantethine, I heard it's a more natural form, maybe this would cause less hairloss? Any advice or experiences would be great.

[stm1975]

Done with B5,,, works great, but too much hair loss.

I'm going to stop today, if and when my hair goes back to normal I might try Pantethine.

back to the drawing board

[pam_B]

Hi stm1975 you might find that your hair loss doesnt stop or even gets worse after you stop taking b5 because i wasnt suffering hair loss while taking them and once id stopped it started falling out rapidly in clumps and its still continuing now but ive been reading up about TE and appparently that only lasts for several months so im hoping thats what im suffering with and hopefully you will too which means it will just be temporaliry and should slow down before completely stopping after several months.Maybe you will be more fortunate and maybe your hair loss could stop as soon as you stop taking b5 but the majority of people who ive spoke to have said it gets worse or starts once they stop supplementing.Good luck anyway

[stm1975]

Hi Pam, Thanks for the info,

I'm hoping since I was only taking B5 for a month, and the highest dose I got to was 6g, for a few days, it's not going to be long before my hair turns back to the way it was. But atleast I can prepare for the worst. I am male, thank god, and can go with a buzz cut, I have in the past.

What is TE?

Have you ever tried straight Pantethine?

[pam_B]

Hi stm1975

TE=Telogen effluvium is a form of nonscarring alopecia characterized by diffuse hair shedding, often with an acute onset. A chronic form with a more insidious onset and a longer duration also exists.1,2 Telogen effluvium is a reactive process caused by a metabolic or hormonal stress or by medications. Generally, recovery is spontaneous and occurs within 6 months.Telogen effluvium is the name for temporary hair loss due to shedding of resting or telogen hair after some shock to the system. New hair continues to grow. Telogen hair has a bulb or club-shaped tip.

You can look this up in google if you want to know more.

I havent tried pantethine no but ive heard alot about it so i cant really help you there,sorry.

Im not going to take anymore supplements whatsoever im just going to let my hair normalise by itself which am hopeful will happen especially if i have TE which does sound alot like what i have

You might be more lucky then me as you was only taking them for a short period so you should recover quickly whereas i was taking them for over a year so i will most probably recover more slowly

You are also alot luckier aswel as your a male and you guys can disguise you hair loss as most of you have short hair anyway or have no hair at all

Anyway good luck and it would be good to know how you get on

[stm1975]

Thanks Pam,,,

I'll update on my situation in a week or so,,, Hopefully by then the B5 will be out of my system.

[mbbento]

I have been taking 10 grams/day for about 1 month now. However, I hope to have surgery sometime this winter. Anyone know if it is wise to stop taking the mega dose beforehand, and if so, how soon before going under the knife? I am kinda worried it will inhibit my healing and lead to more scar formation? Thanks!

[.JacktheLad.]

http://www.acnetohealth.com/b5-supplements-for-acne.html

interesting read! your thoughts?

[wibble]

http://www.acnetohealth.com/b5-supplements-for-acne.html

interesting read! your thoughts?

Interesting in as far as the site tries to unprove the theory with absence of proof, it will never be a winner. Its one of the many garbage sites in reality. B5 works (sure it may not work for everyone, but as a concept it works). Thats the first simple fact. If the site proceeded to find out how it worked, but alert people as to why its a bad choice (as there are definite dangers and side effects!), I'd be positive about it.

To try and remove one "possible" solution for many who are emotionally scarred for years, without proper enquiry is bordering on negligent and damaging for me. To warn people about the dangers of it in itself is fine. To try and make money from a site along those lines, especially products that then include B5 without "proof", is a rip.

Link should be removed by mods.

Edited by wibble, 12 October 2009 - 02:00 PM.

[micheleyy]

So, if we need to take a B-50 complex with our B-5 vitamins, do we take equal amounts of each?

[stm1975]

Hey all,,

Update on STOPPING B5, I was experiencing some hair loss with the high amounts of B5. I only got up to 6g, not the 10 recommended. After about 2 weeks of no B5, my hair is slowly starting to return to normal.

I started taking broccoli pills as some people had some success with that. Not sure if it's the B5 still in my system, or the broccoli pills, but I've been pretty clear. It also could be the candida diet I've been on for about 4 months. Who knows?

I said I would try Pantethine after my hair turned to normal, I'm staying fairly clear, so for now I will stay with my program now until I see some more breakouts.

[nutsytmom]

Has anyone with non-oily skin tried b5? 20 years old, my skin is not oily at all, although unfortunately I do have quite a few pimples and blackheads. Been trying b5 for about 2 weeks, from 5g the first three days to 10g the rest, taken 4 times a day at 2.5g each time. Have not seen any positive results at all.

The only effect I have seen so far is that my lips have been very chapped, and occasionally some bad bowel movements.

Edited by nutsytmom, 21 October 2009 - 10:02 PM.

[lakers4life]

So ive been on pantothenic acid for almost a year now. I had pretty bad acne, and this was the only thing that has ever worked. I used to take 12g a day. and now im at 8g. I want to lower it to 6g but everytime i do, i start to break out and then i go back to 8g and everything is fine.

As for the side effects, I havent experienced hair loss. only thing i really experienced is I have to use number 2 a lot when i go to the bathroom.

Anyone who went through b5 and has stayed cleared after lowering or stopped using the dosage can help me?

[pam_B]

Hi Lakers4life i was megadosing b5 for a whole year taking 20 a day up until march this year.Ive been off em for almost 9 months now and im still totally clear but i have dry skin in replace.I didnt lower my dose i just completely stopped which probably wasnt so good but im still clear anyway.I dont know for how much longer though

[ShirleyB]

Hi Lakers4life i was megadosing b5 for a whole year taking 20 a day up until march this year.Ive been off em for almost 9 months now and im still totally clear but i have dry skin in replace.I didnt lower my dose i just completely stopped which probably wasnt so good but im still clear anyway.I dont know for how much longer though

Hey Pam_B, how was your acne before you took B5, were they moderate? Also how long did it take to get clear?