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[Krg]

i don't know if this has been said before but... you get enough B5 from food.  taking B5 is useless in most cases. no matter what you r eating.. a hamburger or vetarian stuff it won't make a difference.

my doctor even said i should avoid taking too much vitamin B because it can cause eczema. i had that eczema on my neck so i know what i am talking about  :wink:

Whether 100% RDA is enough or not, it's a fact that a high dose of B5 has a good effect on acne in a lot of people.

Yes, there's a risk for side effects (unless it's used topically), but people should already know that if they read info about B5 for acne.

[Krg]

I figured I was thankful to read evryones posts when I started B5 so I feel I should leave one too.

I started taking B5 about a month ago. I havent seen a single side effect accept flourescent yellow pee, that looks like red bull.

Anyways I am very happy with it so far. I have seen a dramatic change for the better and Im hoping to see even more. Its not even that big of a deal taking 10 grams a day. Its alot of pills to swallow but who cares, its worth it. I have taken them with and without food, drunk, before I work out, it doesnt matter, after you take them there isnt a single side effect that even makes you remember you took them.

And to the people that knock it I wouldnt even listen to them. What the hell do they know?

Yellow pee is usually caused by taking a B-complex (which you should take while on a megadose of B5). It's normal.

The risk for side effects differ from person-to-person, how good they follow a good regimen, and it takes time.

When someone takes 10gr B5 without extra good supplements (like B-complex etc). I think that those have a high risk for sideeffects when taking that for example 2 years long. I know that my (healthy) body would not take it.

[Doppleganger]

sorry if this has been asked many times, but are there any short and long-term side effects that i should worry about when taking B5 that could come bite me in the ass later in life :unsure:

[Ryan Valmont]

20 pills a day?!....wtf!!!

I'd rather live with my acne thx

[vxnova]

Its not as bad as you think.

[shriek]

Hi, Can I take megadoes of B5 whilst taking Accutane? Is it a bit risky to do so?
I just cannot wait to try any mean that has potential to diminish my spots which i hate sooooo much. Acctuane works for me, but it seems it does not works as fast as i expected. I still got some non-cysts on my forehead.

[The Tom]

A little while ago in this thread I talked about what fantastic benefits B5 was bringing to me. And I stand by that... it did clear me up brilliantly.

But then I ran out, and had to stop taking it for four days whilst I waited for another delivery.

In between that time, I think my skin took the opportunity to go wild, and break out a whole lot.

But I have started back on the b5 now, and bizarrely I haven't actually noticed its benefits again. It doesn't seem to be doing anything.

Has anyone else experienced this?

[avron]

I decided to quit taking B5 after noticing messed up liver enzymes and the fact that it could cause brittle hair.

[Krg]

I decided to quit taking B5 after noticing messed up liver enzymes and the fact that it could cause brittle hair.

Interesting. Could you provide us some more details? For example:
-How did you found out that B5 messed up your liver enzymes? A bloodtest?
-Did you experienced hair problems while on B5 or other side effects?
-Were the enzymes levels raised/elevated in your blood?
-Which enzymes? Alanine aminotransferase (ALT) and/or aspartate aminotransferase (AST)?
-Did you took other supplements while on B5?

[Exocet]

A little while ago in this thread I talked about what fantastic benefits B5 was bringing to me. And I stand by that... it did clear me up brilliantly.

But then I ran out, and had to stop taking it for four days whilst I waited for another delivery.

In between that time, I think my skin took the opportunity to go wild, and break out a whole lot.

But I have started back on the b5 now, and bizarrely I haven't actually noticed its benefits again. It doesn't seem to be doing anything.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Yes, that unfortunate thing happened to me exactly as you descibe it!
I haven't got a clue what the cuase is, but it sucks big time. So then I decided to give pantethine a try, but no luck with that either...
What are you trying at the moment ?

[The Tom]

A little while ago in this thread I talked about what fantastic benefits B5 was bringing to me. And I stand by that... it did clear me up brilliantly.

But then I ran out, and had to stop taking it for four days whilst I waited for another delivery.

In between that time, I think my skin took the opportunity to go wild, and break out a whole lot.

But I have started back on the b5 now, and bizarrely I haven't actually noticed its benefits again. It doesn't seem to be doing anything.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Yes, that unfortunate thing happened to me exactly as you descibe it!
I haven't got a clue what the cuase is, but it sucks big time. So then I decided to give pantethine a try, but no luck with that either...
What are you trying at the moment ?

I'm still sticking with the 20 tablets a day... but it doesn't seem to be doing anything at all. If anything, it's making my skin worse.

It doesn't really make sense, does it.

It's almost as if you only get one go with it, and if you slightly mess it up - just by stopping for a few days - then tough luck, it won't work again. Bizarre... and really disappointing.

I am going to continue with it until I run out of the B5 I have at the moment -- i still have three more tubs to go through, so...!

I don't know whether it might be a good idea to just carry on with it and hope after a month or so it might work again, or whether to come off it completely for a few weeks and get it out of my system, then start again.

I know the research on B5 is still sketchy. But it's hard to find an explanation for why this would happen.

[Exocet]

Well, I really hate to disappoint you, but it's been easily over a month now since I had a 'timeout' and my skin started getting worse again, and I'm still not through my pantothenic acid, only the pantethine has run out.
For a while I also kept taking the high dosage, but it didn't really matter to my skin condition. Now I'm going through the remaining pills on about 3-5 gram a day, to 'slowly build it off'.

And like you're saying, I would consider myself one of the people more familiar with the underlying metabolic pathways involving CoA and so forth, but I can't come up with anything (not even with a big 'woowoo' factor ) to explain this sudden decrease in effectivity.

I'm also experimenting a bit with particular foods now, and some tea tree/manuka oil, but so far that hasn't caused any big improvement.

[The Tom]

It's really annoying! :wall:

I can't decide whether to come off the B5 for, say, a month and then go back on it... because surely by then it will have to have got out of my system and will start working again?

Or whether I should just carry on with the B5 in the hope that if I give it enough time then It'll kick in. But as you say, you've not had much luck with that.

I think I'll go through another tub of B5 and if it's not any better after that, then i'll take a break from it and start over.

We are all guineapigs, I guess... there really needs to be some more organised trials of it.

[droog]

Potency of B5 megadosing has a lot to do with the brand of B5, After taking Evolution X for 20 days not seeing any improvement I have almost certainly decided this is an inferior product. I will continue to finish the 2nd bottle but I would say acne miracle powder was superior. Ive just seen they do a new form of B5 which is punch flavoured and has a load of extra stuff in it. I will be trying that ASAP but its sold out. Ive been taking B5 for almost 2 years and I'm in my early 20s, if anyones got any questions about anything I will do my best to help.

[Bostonian]

Does anyone else's stomach growl whilst on B5? How do you stop that? An if you take something will it counter the positive effects of B5?

[Giuseppe]

When I first started B5 over a year ago, at 10g Acnemiracle powder per day, my acne was virtually gone in a month, mostly clear in just weeks. After six months of taking 10g/day religiously along with a B-100 complex and multivitamin, the acne slowly but surely returned, eventually to slightly worse than it originally was. I tried stopping not only B5 but all vitamin supplements for a few months, then went back on them, without luck. It's as if B5 totally lost its effectiveness with me. I will note, although, back a year ago I had just quit my second Accutane session after six months of Accutane not working, then switched right over to B5 and watched my acne vanish. Today, after a second try of months again taking AcneMiracle B5 powder 10g/day along with my potent multivitamin I have quit B5 rendering it obsolete. Now I'm trying every other supplement under the sun that's been mentioned on various acne forums in hope of finding _something_ that works.

There must be a reason why B5 first works so miraculously then suddenly quits its effectiveness. There's got to be some kind of solution.

Ive just seen they do a new form of B5 which is punch flavoured and has a load of extra stuff in it.

Thanks for the info. I'd love to hear about how B5Complete works with others (especially others that have taken B5 in the past who have at first succeeded with it then eventually failed like I described above.) That taste was always nasty as well, had to drink the stuff with iced tea all the time.

Does anyone else's stomach growl whilst on B5? How do you stop that? An if you take something will it counter the positive effects of B5?

Yes, especially at first. It never totally went away while I took it, but it was worse at the beginning.

[droog]

Brother I would like to add that you should maybe try borage oil, its also called starflower oil. It regulates hormones which is why people actually get acne in the first place, the hormones are flaring up producing oil and creating acne. People dont seem to understand that hormones are the cause of acne, this is why stress, getting Ill and stuff seems to make it worse. Women in most cases can take a birth control pill to regulate hormones and this usually clears their acne, us guys on the other hand have no alternative to this.

Peace be with you

[Giuseppe]

Thanks for the info. I've read a lot about how hormones affect acne, but just as much as diet, genes, and toxicity. I've tried covering all fronts, from cutting out oily foods and dairy, to taking EFAs, and taking NAC and ALA among others. The EFAs seemed to have little, if any, effect on me, and it seems the borage oil's effectiveness is due to the omega-6 GLA. I am very open if this has helped you or anyone else, but that B5Complete stuff still interests me as well, just for the sake that it contains Pantethine which I haven't tried yet. I think everything else in that formula I have either taken as a multivitamin in similar dosage or individually. I'm currently trying Beta Sitosterol, the ingredient in Saw Palmetto that supposedly has the most potent hormonal effect. No luck yet.

I'll also note though that the first time I took Accutane, about four years ago or so, it rid my acne in a month. In reading, I've found Accutane works highly on hormones (and insulin as well) so that's probably the link. My second session of Accutane, although, was ineffective. Likewise, my first time taking B5 10g totally cleared me for about six months, and my second time going on B5 was also ineffective. Very mind boggling.

Thanks for your time.

[pooratbest]

Pantothenic Acid tablets are so expensive, i would i see a benefit if say i used half the recommended dosage(5g/day)? Also do i need to buy a Multi B vit tablet too? Many thanks...PAB

[The Tom]

I guess that after a while the body just gets used to a high quantity of B5... even after many months without megadoses, it may still not respond to it.

At some level, it must adapt itself to suit these higher levels of B5, treating them as almost 'normal', if you like, thus returning to its original acne-prone state.

I don't know - I'm not a doctor - but there definately needs to be more research.

I am only in my late teens, so am really hopeful that this is just 'one of those things' at my time of life. To that end, I am fortunate. But I seem to suffer more seriously than others my age. Wouldn't be on here if I didn't!

Personally, over the past week (this next week marking, I think, a month since my re-starting of B5 after my 'timeout') I have improved a fair bit. Most existing spots are drying out and I have just one new one that's coming through but it's been there a while. Hard to tell whether this is B5 working again. I remember being quite bad just a week before I noticed B5 working -- then suddenly, in the space of a few days, I was totally clear. Probably had something to do with my parents leaving the country!!

I'll let you know how I get on. I'm still pretty hopeful that B5 will do something, even after my break from it. If not, back to the Doc :blink: