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[ayla]

[ayla]

Ok - so today (day 3) my skin is oilier, but it's a different kind of oiliness. Normally my skin is oily AND dehydrated. If you have ever felt tea tree or lavender oil, that's the way the oil on my face normally feels. Kind of a dry oil, not moisturizing, just shiny Today, my skin looks.. plumper? Less dehydrated, oily - but not dry. Additionally - my eyes don't itch (they usually do), and my hands aren't dry and flaky - they usually are. Interesting...

you are dead on target.

i think we ate fish alot more then previously thought, we couldnt have relied on spearhunting and bowhunting, that is soooooo hard to do, ask any bowhunter.

and to get close enough to something to spear it???? even harder to do, but how hard is it to catch a fish, or even start your own fish pond, fuckin simple.

all you had to do was get a couple fish to mate with each other and keep em in a pond so they can multiply and guess what you are creating your own food source that you can rely on for the rest of your life. A secure food source.

*nods* exactly!

xxndnromeoxx & AutonomousOne1980 -

Something off topic - Have you guys read The Clan of the Cave Bear? Fictional, but very well researched, hell of a read. I think you guys would like it. The movie does not count!

[bber]

from my calculations i believe the natural ratio of omega 6/3 is more like 1:14

i just estimated if my main protein intake was all salmon say 150 grams of protein from salmon that would be around 15 grams of o3 in a day

plus veggies say like potatoes and ate four large potatoes a day 320 gms carbs would barely give evenme a gram of omega 6

this would be 2015 total calories which is about average for an adult.

if this is how most of our ancestors ate the ratio would be more like 1:14 omega 6/3.

I got the info from nutrition data.com.

are my calculations realistic? what do you think?

Looks good, except 150g of protein is a lot of protein. You have to eat pretty selectively to get in that much protein without supplementation. Not that it can't be done, as I get in around 200g without counting supplementation but its a pain in the ass to do. If you're getting in that much protein from meals, chances are your diet would have to be considerably higher than 2015 cals.

i easily get at least 120 grams of protein in my meals, if i dont i will never feel satiated and will gorge on carbs, well at least back in the day thats how i used to be, carbs never fill me up, they are like empty i used to be able to eat a whole bag of snyders buttermilk ranch pretzel pieces in one sitting that was probably 1000 calories right there. but now i fill up on cooked veggies and meat and stuff myself so full it feels so good and its still low carb. well potatoes arent exactly low carb but i also eat alot of cooked carrots.

I see what you're saying, and now that i look at unfarmed salmon it would seem 1/2kg is all you would need for 150g of protein. Of course that leaves your diet at around 1400 cals, if all you eat is salmon. The other 600cal would come from vegetables?

[AutonomousOne1980]

ive started to use fish oil topically.

just so you all know.


even though after only seven days of achieving a 1:1 ratio, my skin is on a slow upward spiral, i still have some large pores and some blackheads left which are going away fairly quickly but i really would like to speed it up as fast as i can. and plenty of scars which are fading very nicely. i dont expect the scars to be gone for at least 4 more weeks though. I would like to add that i took about two capsules per day for about a week before attempting to achive a 1:1 ratio which now requires i take any where from eight to ten capsules a day.

To describe some of the changes ive noticed in the past week i would say the best thing is that the skin on my face is becoming creamy and smooth and no irritation or dryness at all, which is not quite like bbrs experiance(he had a nice halt of oil production) but maybe my skin will get more dry as i progress which it seems to be doing anyhow.My sebum is alot thinner and not as thick.

I also stopped using bp as it is known to age skin and contribute to tumor production. dont want that on my face anymore.

the only thing i still use is retinoic acid at night because its pretty effective and makes sense as a treatment.

by my estimates my acne is improving at a rate of about 3% per day and a consistent three percent, i have not had one new pimple since starting this, they just all started to fade noticably after the second day.

I expect to have no signs of acne(except pitted scars) in about 30-45 days.

i really hate counting my eggs before they hatch but after only a week of doing this, i feel hella confident.
yet i still dont want this thread to be over hyped. so we will wait and see what the next two-three weeks has instore.

and also judge according to other peoples experiances as well.

well last night i applied fish oil topically for maybe 4 hours before i went to bed and noticed one little white head and a small but not inflamed cyst forming which doesnt even hurt but from this i will conclude that maybe putting fish oil on my skin isnt the best for it, ill just let my body decides what goes ono my skin.

but i stll think if they could purify fish oil to the point as to extract only epa , that would be a really good topical to compare to retinoic acid.

the skin on my are alot softer when usually they are really rough dry and scaly.

and for my second week im upping my fish oil to 15 pills a day.

face is still getting creamier.

[Jeremy David]

i used to have really oily skin until i started taking omega 3's as well. i started out with flax and have switched to fish oil since

should I replace flax oil with fish oil? Everyone seems to be praising fish oil. I am following Bob's regime.

I follow his regimen too, except I researched that borage and evening primrose are high in omega 6, so I just take omega 3 (fish oil) for my EFAs

WHat brand of fish oil do you buy, because i only found kind that has borage and flaxseed and i want to get off of that.

[Jeremy David]

They all just put us on drugs or topicals. It's just a big business and I'm sick of it. There IS a cure, and the cure is not profitable, hence it's not as mainstream as people want.

I want to do something about this and make my own website or something and pretty much sum up all this, in terms of exactly what to do for external and internal purposes to stop this nonsense for mild to moderate acne sufferers. Because the dan kern regimen itself isn't enough to stop future acne, it just treats existing ones (and not too good )

My skin is so non oily right now that I feel like I am on accutane, it's literally weird. I don't even have excess saliva anymore, I keep drinking water, and I already drink 10-16 glasses daily naturally. I don't even have excess oil on my body anymore, it's crystal clean and no oil slicks or anything nasty either, all from a few easy steps

Hey go for it, the website, more power to the people. The problem is its so hard to find and sort out the good honest acne sites from one that are just disguised to try selling some shit product. I'm curious though on your exact current regime that's working for you if you wish to share!

Do you happen to know anyone who would help out with making a website? I am a graphic designer, although I am not a website designer (I can't code nor host a site etc).

Maybe by making a blog with a link to another forum perhaps?

It won't be filled with any advertises or crap people have to buy that's for sure. Just plain information, free for all.

Actually yes, i know someone who would probably make a website for you, you should Instant message me or give me your email address, and send you my phone number = ]

[NdnRomeo]

Ok - so today (day 3) my skin is oilier, but it's a different kind of oiliness. Normally my skin is oily AND dehydrated. If you have ever felt tea tree or lavender oil, that's the way the oil on my face normally feels. Kind of a dry oil, not moisturizing, just shiny Today, my skin looks.. plumper? Less dehydrated, oily - but not dry. Additionally - my eyes don't itch (they usually do), and my hands aren't dry and flaky - they usually are. Interesting...

you are dead on target.

i think we ate fish alot more then previously thought, we couldnt have relied on spearhunting and bowhunting, that is soooooo hard to do, ask any bowhunter.

and to get close enough to something to spear it???? even harder to do, but how hard is it to catch a fish, or even start your own fish pond, fuckin simple.

all you had to do was get a couple fish to mate with each other and keep em in a pond so they can multiply and guess what you are creating your own food source that you can rely on for the rest of your life. A secure food source.

*nods* exactly!

xxndnromeoxx & AutonomousOne1980 -

Something off topic - Have you guys read The Clan of the Cave Bear? Fictional, but very well researched, hell of a read. I think you guys would like it. The movie does not count!

That is exactly what had happened to me on day 3, I felt a bit different. My oil secretions were the same yet didn't feel heavy on my face as if I even wanted to take it off with my oil absorbing sheets.

I cannot wait till you get to day 7 to 8. Right now, my entire body is oil free, and my face, I've only had to dab once after 3 hours. After those three hours, I still had virtually nothing on my face! And it felt just like the skin on my arm, very soft, yet not oily and not dry. It's almost getting there.

This is very exciting. I was sitting in class today taking my midterm, I couldn't even focus because I was so happy with what had happened. Imagining getting what you wanted, after searching 7 years. I felt that today, for once. It's in sight and it's happening. I start shaking because I was so happy that it's finally here. All because of this. I can now live a normal life. It's just time before my red marks dissapear, as my skin goes through the cycle, and till I am clear as day. I can then start doing what I've always wanted without worrying about acne.


Also, I haven't read the book, but read the summary just now, sounds like what we're discovering isn't it? Did you just finish reading it right now?

[NdnRomeo]

i used to have really oily skin until i started taking omega 3's as well. i started out with flax and have switched to fish oil since

should I replace flax oil with fish oil? Everyone seems to be praising fish oil. I am following Bob's regime.

I follow his regimen too, except I researched that borage and evening primrose are high in omega 6, so I just take omega 3 (fish oil) for my EFAs

WHat brand of fish oil do you buy, because i only found kind that has borage and flaxseed and i want to get off of that.

I get mine from Sam's. There's a brand called members mark. It works, and it's very cheap. I'm sure costco also has a version. They usually sell it for cheap.

[AndOceans109]

Ok - so today (day 3) my skin is oilier, but it's a different kind of oiliness. Normally my skin is oily AND dehydrated. If you have ever felt tea tree or lavender oil, that's the way the oil on my face normally feels. Kind of a dry oil, not moisturizing, just shiny Today, my skin looks.. plumper? Less dehydrated, oily - but not dry. Additionally - my eyes don't itch (they usually do), and my hands aren't dry and flaky - they usually are. Interesting...

you are dead on target.

i think we ate fish alot more then previously thought, we couldnt have relied on spearhunting and bowhunting, that is soooooo hard to do, ask any bowhunter.

and to get close enough to something to spear it???? even harder to do, but how hard is it to catch a fish, or even start your own fish pond, fuckin simple.

all you had to do was get a couple fish to mate with each other and keep em in a pond so they can multiply and guess what you are creating your own food source that you can rely on for the rest of your life. A secure food source.

*nods* exactly!

xxndnromeoxx & AutonomousOne1980 -

Something off topic - Have you guys read The Clan of the Cave Bear? Fictional, but very well researched, hell of a read. I think you guys would like it. The movie does not count!

That is exactly what had happened to me on day 3, I felt a bit different. My oil secretions were the same yet didn't feel heavy on my face as if I even wanted to take it off with my oil absorbing sheets.

I cannot wait till you get to day 7 to 8. Right now, my entire body is oil free, and my face, I've only had to dab once after 3 hours. After those three hours, I still had virtually nothing on my face! And it felt just like the skin on my arm, very soft, yet not oily and not dry. It's almost getting there.

This is very exciting. I was sitting in class today taking my midterm, I couldn't even focus because I was so happy with what had happened. Imagining getting what you wanted, after searching 7 years. I felt that today, for once. It's in sight and it's happening. I start shaking because I was so happy that it's finally here. All because of this. I can now live a normal life. It's just time before my red marks dissapear, as my skin goes through the cycle, and till I am clear as day. I can then start doing what I've always wanted without worrying about acne.


Also, I haven't read the book, but read the summary just now, sounds like what we're discovering isn't it? Did you just finish reading it right now?

me too today! such a good mood.. where i usually break out, it's so much clearer. where i usually dont, has erupted a little, but i feel it's a very good sign that something is going on for the better

[NdnRomeo]

me too today! such a good mood.. where i usually break out, it's so much clearer. where i usually dont, has erupted a little, but i feel it's a very good sign that something is going on for the better

How long have you been on fish oil, how many do you take a day?

Also, do you use oil absorbing sheets? Those are so vital! Without those, I'd break out for sure. It saved me so much trouble!

[AndOceans109]

me too today! such a good mood.. where i usually break out, it's so much clearer. where i usually dont, has erupted a little, but i feel it's a very good sign that something is going on for the better

How long have you been on fish oil, how many do you take a day?

Also, do you use oil absorbing sheets? Those are so vital! Without those, I'd break out for sure. It saved me so much trouble!

taking 6-8 1g fish oil capsules a day along with some other stuff..i'm pretty sure it's the fish oil that's doing it..nop i don't use any absorbing sheets. few times a day i rub my hand (opposite of palm) slightly across my forehead and wherever quick, no biggie with that for me..but it's wierd. around my mouth, under eyes and cheeks is where i normally break out, and it's way clearer. forehead usually isnt bad at all, but now theres a lot of little red bumps and a couple small whiteheads, esp in the middle of my lower forehead and right above my eyebrows. hopefully that will get better

[NdnRomeo]

me too today! such a good mood.. where i usually break out, it's so much clearer. where i usually dont, has erupted a little, but i feel it's a very good sign that something is going on for the better

How long have you been on fish oil, how many do you take a day?

Also, do you use oil absorbing sheets? Those are so vital! Without those, I'd break out for sure. It saved me so much trouble!

taking 6-8 1g fish oil capsules a day along with some other stuff..i'm pretty sure it's the fish oil that's doing it..nop i don't use any absorbing sheets. few times a day i rub my hand (opposite of palm) slightly across my forehead and wherever quick, no biggie with that for me..but it's wierd. around my mouth, under eyes and cheeks is where i normally break out, and it's way clearer. forehead usually isnt bad at all, but now theres a lot of little red bumps and a couple small whiteheads, esp in the middle of my lower forehead and right above my eyebrows. hopefully that will get better

Nice! How many days have you been on it?

If you add in some daily manual exfoliation with the baby hair brush and oil absorbing sheets, you'll be clear in no time definitely. Since both of those are also inexpensive, it should be no problem!

[BcdG36]

I'm just wondering. For those of you who are taking fish
oil and seeing results, how oily is your skin usually?

[NdnRomeo]

I'm just wondering. For those of you who are taking fish
oil and seeing results, how oily is your skin usually?

I don't even want to think about it, ick. To the point where in a few hours you could see a shine on my nose or you could smell it or feel it on you. So nasty! I never realized how thick it was too. I'm glad the viscosity changed too.

In comparison, it's gone down by 50% already, and it's only been a week.

[BcdG36]

Yeah, my face is incredibly oily too. I hope this works.
I broke out horribly more than a year ago when I decided
to cut off all medication and that decision ruined my life
for the past year (my face was that horrible). Hopefully
fish oil will control my oil production.

[bber]

I'm just wondering. For those of you who are taking fish
oil and seeing results, how oily is your skin usually?

Really oily. Whenever i touched my face my hands were greasy enough to warrant washing. Kinda like I had just been holding a big mac or something. And this was all the time, during the day and specially at night. At night I got this sensation where you have something heavy coating your face, it was annoying as hell and I don't give a great deal of attention to my skin since its basically severe acne when im not on antibiotics but it was just that annoying. Now I've been off the meds for a while and seem to be keeping things under control. My face acne is none-existent, I only have a small cyst on my left cheek now and for me thats amazing progress. Now I must say while my body is clearing slowly, the progress there hasnt been as dramatic. I assume because my body wasnt oily to begin with.

[ayla]

I cannot wait till you get to day 7 to 8. Right now, my entire body is oil free, and my face, I've only had to dab once after 3 hours. After those three hours, I still had virtually nothing on my face! And it felt just like the skin on my arm, very soft, yet not oily and not dry. It's almost getting there.

This is very exciting. I was sitting in class today taking my midterm, I couldn't even focus because I was so happy with what had happened. Imagining getting what you wanted, after searching 7 years. I felt that today, for once. It's in sight and it's happening. I start shaking because I was so happy that it's finally here. All because of this. I can now live a normal life. It's just time before my red marks dissapear, as my skin goes through the cycle, and till I am clear as day. I can then start doing what I've always wanted without worrying about acne.


Also, I haven't read the book, but read the summary just now, sounds like what we're discovering isn't it? Did you just finish reading it right now?

Me either! I actually went to the health food store today and bought a higher quality oil. It's Carlson Super Omega 3 Fish Oil Concentrate. 1000 mg single softgel, 300 mg EPA, 200 mg DHA. No afterburps It's a pharmaceutical quality oil, really thorough screening, guaranteed potency.... blah, blah, blah. At any rate, I researched for a couple of hours this morning, reading opinions and epinions of customers on various oils, this one had very high marks. We shall see!

The book! Gosh no, I've probably read it 5 or 6 times I LOVE it. I've learned a quite a bit from them (it's actually a series).

I'm just wondering. For those of you who are taking fish
oil and seeing results, how oily is your skin usually?

Not really oily, but enough that 5 hours after washing my face, I can definitely SEE oil. It's also dehydrated, lined/flakey under the oil It feels less dehydrated today

[BcdG36]

Just one more question. There are a variety of fish oils and I was
wondering whether it would be better to get the ones with more
EPA and DHA?

[anony.]

Just one more question. There are a variety of fish oils and I was
wondering whether it would be better to get the ones with more
EPA and DHA?

yes more EPA/DHA is better. however, pills that contain more EPA/DHA are usually more expensive. here are the ones i use:
http://www.vitacost.com/Jarrow-Formulas-EPA-DHA-Balance

[NdnRomeo]

I am such a moron.

Assuming my oil decreased, after 4 pm I decided not to use an oil absorbing sheet. At 9 oclock when I went to wash, guess what happened? 3 zits. But it isn't the type that will form a white head, it's just a red small bump.

I guess that teaches me a lesson. I still need oil absorbing sheets otherwise it will clog.

Gr. Pushing back further.