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Posted 10 October 2006 - 01:04 AM

i keep getting pimples around my mouth and its mostly just small bumps that dont look like cold sores but are about the same size and sometimes a bigger one will come out i dont know why at all. if its my chapstick? anyone know what can get rid of the problem???

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 01:25 AM

QUOTE(pacsmalls @ Oct 10 2006, 12:04 AM)

i keep getting pimples around my mouth and its mostly just small bumps that dont look like cold sores but are about the same size and sometimes a bigger one will come out i dont know why at all. if its my chapstick? anyone know what can get rid of the problem???


It could be the flouride in your toothpaste, which can trigger breakouts. Talk to your dentist if you suspect that's true for you.

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 08:06 AM

i posted this before somewhere else...

that acne or rashes around the mouth (Peri-Oral Contact Dermatitis) may be caused by halogens. switching to flavor and fluoride free toothpaste helped me clear up my chin.

The appearance of Acne or Rashes around the mouth is called "Peri-Oral Contact Dermatitis" and is commonly caused by chemicals known as "Halogens" in your diet, in medicines you take, or in products you use.

Halogens are common chemicals that cause Acne:

· Bromides: Found in Cough Syrups, Asthma Medication, Sleeping Pills, Chocolate.
· Chlorides: Found in Mouthwashes and Swimming Pool Water.
· Fluorides: Found in Toothpastes and some Oral Care products.
· Iodides: Found in Salt, Seafood, B12 Vitamins, Processed Foods.

If most of your Acne is around the mouth area:

1. Check if you are ingesting or using any of the items listed above. If so, stop or lessen your exposure to or your intake of these items.
2. Switch to Oral Hygiene products without Fluoride, Chloride, Dyes or Flavours, such as VMV's Essence Skin-Saving, Simple-Gentle Toothpaste.
You can also use Elation Natural Skin Spa Skin-Sensitive Toothpaste with Natural Peppermint. Please note that we recommend Essence Skin-Saving Toothpaste for very sensitive or acne-prone skin around the mouth


source: Ask VMV

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 01:23 PM

I also have realy mild acne around my mouth and on the chin. I find it hard to believe that it is from my toothpaste though. Im going to try the cetaphil cleanser, OTS 2.5%, and the cetaphil mosturizer. Hopefully this will get rid of the minimal acne on my forehead as well.

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 01:48 PM

!!! thanks for info, i just found out what caused my last breakout on my chin

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 02:05 PM

Since I stopped eating salt I can give a 100% positive that acne round my jawline has slowed alot.

Definitely worth looking into.

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 08:19 PM

QUOTE(pacsmalls @ Oct 10 2006, 12:04 AM)

i keep getting pimples around my mouth and its mostly just small bumps that dont look like cold sores but are about the same size and sometimes a bigger one will come out i dont know why at all. if its my chapstick? anyone know what can get rid of the problem???


I read this thing about "chaptick acne" just yesterday, but now I can't find it.

QUOTE(answerme @ Oct 10 2006, 07:06 AM)

i posted this before somewhere else...

that acne or rashes around the mouth (Peri-Oral Contact Dermatitis) may be caused by halogens. switching to flavor and fluoride free toothpaste helped me clear up my chin.

The appearance of Acne or Rashes around the mouth is called "Peri-Oral Contact Dermatitis" and is commonly caused by chemicals known as "Halogens" in your diet, in medicines you take, or in products you use.

Halogens are common chemicals that cause Acne:

· Bromides: Found in Cough Syrups, Asthma Medication, Sleeping Pills, Chocolate.
· Chlorides: Found in Mouthwashes and Swimming Pool Water.
· Fluorides: Found in Toothpastes and some Oral Care products.
· Iodides: Found in Salt, Seafood, B12 Vitamins, Processed Foods.

If most of your Acne is around the mouth area:

1. Check if you are ingesting or using any of the items listed above. If so, stop or lessen your exposure to or your intake of these items.
2. Switch to Oral Hygiene products without Fluoride, Chloride, Dyes or Flavours, such as VMV's Essence Skin-Saving, Simple-Gentle Toothpaste.
You can also use Elation Natural Skin Spa Skin-Sensitive Toothpaste with Natural Peppermint. Please note that we recommend Essence Skin-Saving Toothpaste for very sensitive or acne-prone skin around the mouth


source: Ask VMV


What sorts of sleeping pills? Hypnotics? Antihistamines? What?

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 12:30 AM

QUOTE(Kitty_Collins @ Oct 11 2006, 10:19 AM)

QUOTE(pacsmalls @ Oct 10 2006, 12:04 AM)

i keep getting pimples around my mouth and its mostly just small bumps that dont look like cold sores but are about the same size and sometimes a bigger one will come out i dont know why at all. if its my chapstick? anyone know what can get rid of the problem???


I read this thing about "chaptick acne" just yesterday, but now I can't find it.

QUOTE(answerme @ Oct 10 2006, 07:06 AM)

i posted this before somewhere else...

that acne or rashes around the mouth (Peri-Oral Contact Dermatitis) may be caused by halogens. switching to flavor and fluoride free toothpaste helped me clear up my chin.

The appearance of Acne or Rashes around the mouth is called "Peri-Oral Contact Dermatitis" and is commonly caused by chemicals known as "Halogens" in your diet, in medicines you take, or in products you use.

Halogens are common chemicals that cause Acne:

· Bromides: Found in Cough Syrups, Asthma Medication, Sleeping Pills, Chocolate.
· Chlorides: Found in Mouthwashes and Swimming Pool Water.
· Fluorides: Found in Toothpastes and some Oral Care products.
· Iodides: Found in Salt, Seafood, B12 Vitamins, Processed Foods.

If most of your Acne is around the mouth area:

1. Check if you are ingesting or using any of the items listed above. If so, stop or lessen your exposure to or your intake of these items.
2. Switch to Oral Hygiene products without Fluoride, Chloride, Dyes or Flavours, such as VMV's Essence Skin-Saving, Simple-Gentle Toothpaste.
You can also use Elation Natural Skin Spa Skin-Sensitive Toothpaste with Natural Peppermint. Please note that we recommend Essence Skin-Saving Toothpaste for very sensitive or acne-prone skin around the mouth


source: Ask VMV


What sorts of sleeping pills? Hypnotics? Antihistamines? What?


VMV stated in reply to that question that studies in dermatology have shown that halogens can cause acne or rashes around the mouth and bromide, a common ingredient in some sleeping pills, is a halogen.

They suggest that you examine the ingredients of your sleeping pills for bromides.

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 06:58 AM

flouride has the almost the same toxicity as lead.

just google...flouride toothepaste, acne.

you will find a few interesting reads

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 02:14 PM

Yep, its the toothpaste. clered me up

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 01:15 PM

I found this article on the internet, it's interesting, I'm going to use herbal toothpaste for a while and see what happens:

ARCHIVES of DERMATOLOGY
1975; Volume 111; Pages 793

Fluoride Toothpaste: A Cause of Acne-like Eruptions

To the Editor - I feel that I should share with my colleagues in dermatology an observation relative to the treatment of problem acne. All of us have the adult female acne patient who has closed comedonal or papular acne extending from the corner of the mouth to the chin area, sometimes in a slightly fan-like distribution from the corner of the mouth to the chin area and the proximal area of the cheek. This type of acne has often been recalcitrant to standard methods of therapy, and many of us have been under the impression that it is caused either by chemicals from cosmetics, such as lipsticks (as per Dr. Kligman), or hand-to-face activity in this area.

Having accumulated a number of such patients ranging in age from the early 20's to the 40's, all of whom were adamant in their denial of hand-to-face activity, and many of whom willingly abstained from the use of lipsticks and cosmetics on a relatively long basis without effect, I have had to reevaluate my thinking and interview the patients thoroughly, with an eye to determine a common denominator. My hypothesis was that either the saliva of these particular individuals, or some chemical carried in the saliva, could, during sleep, drain on the areas involved, enter the follicles, and cause a process resembling acne. The only common denominator I was able to elicit from all of these patients (approximately 65 in number) was that they all used toothpastes containing fluoride. This brought to mind a fact that has recently been elucidated: fluoridated steroids applied to the faces of women resulted in a perioral erythema-type eruption resembling acne. Industrial halogen fumes may also cause an acne-like eruption generally referred to as chloracne.

Recognizing the fact that fluoride toothpastes are the prevalent type of dentrifice and that my findings could be a mere coincidence, I requested, nevertheless, that these patients switch, on a trial basis, from their fluoride toothpastes to a nonfluoride-containing toothpaste. Within a period varying from two to four weeks, approximately one half of the patients thus observed cleared of their previously persistent acne-like eruption. The condition of the other 50% tended to persist without change. No other variation in the therapy of these patients was undertaken during this test period. On the basis that at this time I had at least circumstantial evidence that the hypothesis might be true, I asked the remaining patients who had not responded to switch from their present dentrifice, which contained brightening and flavoring agents and other unknown chemicals, to baking soda and a commercially available mouthwash (Scope) as a mouth freshener after brushing. The results of this maneuver were remarkably successful in that nearly all of the patients thus treated had considerable improvement and an almost complete clearing of their acne-like eruptions.

Several of the patients, who were concerned about the dental health factors relative to fluoride and its exclusion, requested to resume use of a fluoride toothpaste despite assurances that fluoride in water and dental treatments should be sufficient for good dental health and protection. These patients were then allowed to resume use of a fluoride toothpaste. Without exception, each developed the same distribution of acne-like eruption that had previously occurred.

I note again that all of these patients had been treated for some time with standard acne therapy consisting of special washing agents, dietary control, tetracycline in varying dosages, and lotions of various types and strengths. But no patient during the treatment period had any variations of his therapy other than the dentrifice.

It was also interesting to note that the patients who were able to recall uniformly that the side on which they had the greatest involvement was the side on which they generally slept, thus giving further credence to the hypothesis of noctunal salivary drainage of chemicals onto the involved areas of skin.

I am hopeful that this observation will be of help to my colleagues in dermatology and that perhaps it might be worthy of a more scientifically controlled and statistically evaluated study.

MILTON A. SAUNDERS, Jr., MD
Virginia Beach, Va





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Posted 12 October 2006 - 10:57 PM

So if I use Scope mouth wash after brushing my teeth it'll be okay to use toothpaste, not cause break outs?

I thought about this:

Everynight I sleep on my right side in the pillow. I drool(hehe) and then I repostion, and prolly lay my cheek over that saliva(where there's prolly particles of the tooth paste in it!)...I get acne erruptions on my lower cheek area, jawline, corner of my lips. Is this maybe why I could be getting erruptions?

Maybe this is what causes my friends too...She gets it only around the chin, mouth area.

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 11:34 PM

QUOTE(Rache @ Oct 12 2006, 08:57 PM)

So if I use Scope mouth wash after brushing my teeth it'll be okay to use toothpaste, not cause break outs?

I thought about this:

Everynight I sleep on my right side in the pillow. I drool(hehe) and then I repostion, and prolly lay my cheek over that saliva(where there's prolly particles of the tooth paste in it!)...I get acne erruptions on my lower cheek area, jawline, corner of my lips. Is this maybe why I could be getting erruptions?

Maybe this is what causes my friends too...She gets it only around the chin, mouth area.



i always use the listerine whitening mouthwash but im gonna try the flouride free toothpaste because that really is the last thing i thought that was causing it because i get them in the corners of my mouth too and i knew they werent cold sores. Then i already wash my sheets and pillowcases once a week sometimes twice but im trying to figure if my chapstick has anything to do with it and if i should stop using that whitening mouthwash. but at least i have some kind of an idea of what is causing it!!

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 08:47 AM

QUOTE(Rache @ Oct 13 2006, 12:57 PM)

So if I use Scope mouth wash after brushing my teeth it'll be okay to use toothpaste, not cause break outs?

I thought about this:

Everynight I sleep on my right side in the pillow. I drool(hehe) and then I repostion, and prolly lay my cheek over that saliva(where there's prolly particles of the tooth paste in it!)...I get acne erruptions on my lower cheek area, jawline, corner of my lips. Is this maybe why I could be getting erruptions?

Maybe this is what causes my friends too...She gets it only around the chin, mouth area.


LOL! drooling caused me breakouts on my chin/lower cheeks too!

i agree with pacsmalls about changing the pillowcase more often. i used to do that before with my old dirty pillows. i noticed it lessened new breakouts.

QUOTE(pacsmalls @ Oct 13 2006, 01:34 PM)

but im trying to figure if my chapstick has anything to do with it and if i should stop using that whitening mouthwash. but at least i have some kind of an idea of what is causing it!!


vaseline lip balm caused me zits on my chin. i avoided using any lip balm before going to bed ever since. i find body shop born lippy, however, safe (i use it only during the day though).

check for chlorides in moutwashes. it's a halogen.




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