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[Dan]

For some reason I was not loving the diet yesterday. Maybe it's because I went out for my friend's birthday and everyone was having burgers and fries and I had to order two side salads, hold the blue cheese, hold the candied walnuts, hold the dressing and please bring me just some olive oil and a wedge of lemon. I added basalmic vinegar which was cheating a little, but I just can't eat another salad without dressing.

I am also potentially cheating a little with nuts. He says to use them sparingly, but sometimes I'll eat like 20 of them for a snack. There is only so much meat I can eat. It's starting to gross me out a little.

Other than the basalmic vinegar and nuts, I am staying the course. I cooked a leg of lamb and a squash in my crock pot yesterday. It wasn't very good though. I think I'm overcooking stuff in there.

I think I have come to the conclusion that I would much prefer to do the regimen than this diet, but that is just my feeling today. We'll see how my opinion changes in the coming days.

[answerme]

haha! i think cheating is inevitable!

[roots]

hmmm I dont understand something...
If you have a clear skin like is shown in the "how to apply BP/moisturize" movie etc, how can you test if a diet is helping or not?

[colorcoded]

Ugh I know what you mean. This diet is kind of starting to not be fun at ALL. lol.
I mean if it clears my skin then I think I will feel as though it's all worth it. But so far I just haven't noticed any change. Are you still doing the Regimen at night?
Hang in there!!

[Dan]

I am still doing the regimen religiously. I'm going to wean myself off of BP entirely at week 3 or so and see if this diet works on its own. I didn't want to go cold turkey from BP from the start because I don't want to break out. So I'm not probably the perfect specimen for doing this diet, but there are other people who are doing it without BP. I still think I'm going to provide good data though because every other time I stop the regimen I break out, at least for the past 10 years. I go off the regimen about once a year to see what happens.

[Dan]

Day 10: Venting (just to warn you): I am going to stick this diet out for 30 days, but I can't say it's been fun. Although I feel great and my mood is even, the act of eating is getting boring and frustrating. Take today at sushi. I love sushi. It's my favorite food in the world. But today, even thought my friend had a nice big bowl of sushi rice with her sashimi and dipped the sashimi in soy sauce, I had to order just plain sashimi (raw fish) with no rice. I had to try eating it with just lemon on it, and when that tasted not-so-good I wasn't aloud to cleanse my palate with the pickled ginger because it's pickled.

This is what every meal when I am out of the house is like. Dr. Cordain talks about how 70+% of our diet is stuff we shouldn't be eating, so that means pretty much everything when you're out.

Regardless, my skin is looking perfect. As in totally and completely perfect. I was clear already from the regimen, and I am still on the regimen mind you, but I feel like I can sense that my skin is almost bulletproof right now. It could be all in my head, but that's how it feels as of late. It'll be really interesting to see how my skin reacts when I go off of the regimen in a few weeks.

My diet is generally good. I cheat a tiny bit every day though. I have something with a little bit of salt in it every day and I usually have some nuts every day, which although we can eat them in moderation on this diet, it's still unclear as to whether nut lectins can be absorbed. I had a steak yesterday that was pre-marinated by the store. The marinade had sugar listed as an ingredient even though it showed up as 0g of carbs and 0g of sugar on the label. Still eating tons of veggies and ample fruit.

Oh, and I'm losing weight. Everyone says I look thinner in the face. But they also say I look really good. I guess someone can't help but look their best when you're eating this diet.

[Jonaas]

Dan, let's say this diet stops acne for you completely, are you going to keep doing it, or are you going back to the regimen?
I don't think I could ever eat like that for a long time, even if it cleared me up..

[rosiemarie]

i've always wanted to try a kind of cleansing diet like this one.
what kind of liquids are ok on this diet? i've never heard of this paleo diet.....are there links somewhere for this, with guidelines?

[=kat=]

I 'm not sure in the ingrediants allow totally so am stuglling to think of options all.

Have you thought about Stevia, or vegetable glycerin for sweetners? Also organic, vegan boullion which you can use to make soups, gravy, stew and flavouring I use this one I know rapunzel sp? in the U.S make a no added salt variety. I swear just mixing it with skinned tomatoes and whatever other vegetables you can find in a blender makes an awesome soup.

What are the limits on the vegetables or are there none? are you allowed things like chilli's, fennel, herbs etc to flavour foods? What about soy products? also cooking the vegetables if you roasted them with the juices of the meat in tinfoil i'm sure it would act as an oil to give you a better taste too. Butter buds? i'm sure synthetic butter wouldn't be allowed but better than the real thing?

[Fuman]

interesting hope it works

[Dan]

First an update, then I'll answer some questions. I went on a trip the last couple of days and it was hard to follow the diet, but I did. I ate salads everywhere mostly and I had to go to Mexican once and just ordered chicken with guacamole and salsa. It gets old to order this way at every restaurant, but I did it. I did cheat once or twice when there was no olive oil and lemon juice as a salad dressing option and went ahead and dressed my salad with some of their vinegarette. Sue me

Dan, let's say this diet stops acne for you completely, are you going to keep doing it, or are you going back to the regimen?

That's going to be a tough call. It is not fun eating like this, but maybe I'll get used to it. I do think I will incorporate much of this diet into regular eating if it does control my acne. So probably at least most meals.

what kind of liquids are ok on this diet? i've never heard of this paleo diet.....are there links somewhere for this, with guidelines?

Rosiemarie, PM me if you'd like to try the diet. http://thepaleodiet.com/articles/Final%20Acne%20Article.pdf is a good pdf version to learn about it. I may still have one key code left since they sent over a few extra when I asked. I may even have two if anyone else is interested.

Have you thought about Stevia, or vegetable glycerin for sweetners? Also organic, vegan boullion which you can use to make soups, gravy, stew and flavouring I use this one I know rapunzel sp? in the U.S make a no added salt variety. I swear just mixing it with skinned tomatoes and whatever other vegetables you can find in a blender makes an awesome soup.

I read about Stevia, but there were mixed answers regarding whether it can cause an insulin spike, so I'm just not using any artificial sweeteners anymore. I decided to just not use any. I have been using unsalted bullion to steam veggies from time to time, and it makes them slightly more tasty I guess.

What are the limits on the vegetables or are there none? are you allowed things like chilli's, fennel, herbs etc to flavour foods? What about soy products? also cooking the vegetables if you roasted them with the juices of the meat in tinfoil i'm sure it would act as an oil to give you a better taste too. Butter buds? i'm sure synthetic butter wouldn't be allowed but better than the real thing?

There are no limits on vegetables. I had two salads yesterday as I do almost every day, plus veggies for snacks and at every other meal except breakfast. You can use any herbs you want. Soy is a legume, so no soy. Butter buds, prolly not. But I haven't looked at their ingredients. Butter itself does not spike insulin as most other dairy can, and should not leach zinc as other dairy can, so hypothetically it's ok. I use it sparingly from time to time.

[=kat=]

Why don't you try tinfoil BBQ I cook almost everything like this. Put some fish any will do or chicken in with some lemon juice herbs and thinly cut vegetables, I like stuff like celery, broccoli and fennel personally but you can literally use anything you like in a tinfoil parcel seal it up tight so its steams itself under the grill. I often do this when i am on early shifts as i can't be bothered to make something when i get in and just have it ready in the fridge then put in the oven. Chicken with peppers, onions, chilli and tomatoes is also good have with some avocado and salad.

As for the boullion cook vegetables in tinned tomatoes with boullion and blend up and its a delicious soup.

Thats just what I would do anyway *runs off to cook food*

[Fuman]

Why don't you try tinfoil BBQ I cook almost everything like this. Put some fish any will do or chicken in with some lemon juice herbs and thinly cut vegetables, I like stuff like celery, broccoli and fennel personally but you can literally use anything you like in a tinfoil parcel seal it up tight so its steams itself under the grill. I often do this when i am on early shifts as i can't be bothered to make something when i get in and just have it ready in the fridge then put in the oven. Chicken with peppers, onions, chilli and tomatoes is also good have with some avocado and salad.

As for the boullion cook vegetables in tinned tomatoes with boullion and blend up and its a delicious soup.

Thats just what I would do anyway *runs off to cook food*

ur making me hungry

[miT]

Dan i would like to join you guys by doing this since i already eat very healthy. can you give me some general rules to follow, and also, i'm trying ot gain weight as well and i'm using Whey protein mixed with soy milk and fruits for my protein shakes. that's probably a no no right? i could cut out the soy milk if i had to and replace it with water...it tastes horrible but i can do it. that's it, i'm really curious about this diet and wanna join in seeing if it helps.

[=kat=]

Whey protein is a no no, it is made from whey which is a dairy product. The best way i think to get your protein is from an egg white blend protein powder and mix it with water, it will taste vile though. Also you would have to be incedibly careful as the vast majority of protein suppliments contain shit loads of sugar.

I'll check in the catalouge at wok tomorrow, i'm sure i've seen a Vegan suppliment before....

[Dipthong]

What's the difference between all of his books?

The Plaeo Diet, The Paleo Diet for Athletes, The Dietary Acne Cure...

are they all essentially the same?

[Wolfheart]

What's the difference between all of his books?

The Plaeo Diet, The Paleo Diet for Athletes, The Dietary Acne Cure...

are they all essentially the same?

I've just ordered the Paleo diet for Athletes, so I suppose there can be done a comparison.

If this is works it will rock my world since I'm both acne-sufferer and athlete

[Adam82]

What's the difference between all of his books?

The Plaeo Diet, The Paleo Diet for Athletes, The Dietary Acne Cure...

are they all essentially the same?

They are alittle different. I know Paleo Diet for Athletes allows some rice and carbs I believe centered around physical activity becasue you body is so depleted of glucose that the carbs won't spike insulin (I think that's the premise).

As far as the dietary resrictions go, I think after a month you can branch out and add in more foods one at a time. I don't think many people could stay on such a restrictive diet long term. This is where stuff like food combining comes in handy by adding fat and/or protein to a carb to lower the insulin impact. Most people personalize it to fit their needs.

Whey protein is a no no, it is made from whey which is a dairy product. The best way i think to get your protein is from an egg white blend protein powder and mix it with water, it will taste vile though. Also you would have to be incedibly careful as the vast majority of protein suppliments contain shit loads of sugar.

I'll check in the catalouge at wok tomorrow, i'm sure i've seen a Vegan suppliment before....

Yeah, you can get egg white protein powder (a good source is trueprotein.com...all custom made so you can get it without any sugar and have it sweetened with stevia0

If you want vegan you can try hemp or brown rice protein powder. They are a little pricey, though.

[Dan]

miT, if you'd like to join us, please PM me and I'll see if I can get some more key codes. I've given them all out so far. The diet is ONLY fish, seafood, lean meat, veggies, fruit, nuts and oils sparingly.

I have been sorta getting comfortable with this diet. It's 2 weeks as of today and I have not had a stitch of grains in 2 weeks. Nor legumes, nor starchy tubers. I have been remarkably good I must say. My skin is looking completely perfect and awesome, but then again I'm still on the regimen. I'm running into an issue because I want to go off the regimen, but I have to keep my skin really dry because I'm testing moisturizers, so I'm not sure what I'm going to do about that.

I made a roast yesterday in my toaster oven. It was tasty.

Still doing 50mg zinc, vitamin D when I'm not in the sun all day, and fish oil out the wazoo--probably 7-9 pills a day. I eat more nuts than I'm supposed to, so I supplement with fish oil each time I snack on nuts to even out the omega-3/6 ratio.

Still feeling generally good emotionally. Very even keeled, except for today on the golf course, but that's because I suck at golf to such a huge degree

[R.S.]

Hey Dan, sounds like you're doing good but if you have to use salt once in awhile, don't sweat it. Same with the vinagraitte, that stuff is really moreso pompous Paleo idealogy to avoid it rather then cold hard nutritional fact...

But yeah, I can guarentee you that stevia does not spike insulin, nor is it artificial...

I don't know if it's allowed on Paleo, but if you get bored with olive oil, seseame oil is a really good one too and traditionally used by Asian people, so it may be a Paleo food.

It'll be interesting to see what happens when you wean off the regimen.