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#21 LabGirl81

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 09:57 AM

QUOTE(paladinclub @ Sep 13 2006, 11:12 AM) View Post

Hey Labgirl,

Wow you're doing 80mg/day! Good luck with it ! I'll be following your progress as you started roundabout the same time as me(3 days earlier (A)).

All the Best!!:D



No...I'm only doing 20mg a day....did I say 80mg somewhere????

QUOTE(charchar @ Sep 13 2006, 11:11 AM) View Post

The dreaded IB!!! Be strong you power-lifter you! biggrin.gif



This delayed onset muscle sorness thing really sucks.....I cut my weight back that I use in my class, which uses low weight (relatively speaking) and high reps.....so instead of squatting 245lb a few times.....I squat 60lbs for six minutes without a break......I cut my weight back to 45lbs....and my ass is sooooo sore today.........I have no reason to be sore....I used way less weight then I normally do, and even when I max out I'm usually not remotely as sore as this the next day, since my muscles are pretty used to it by now........

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 10:01 AM

Hey LabGirl. Does your derm plan to increase your dose during your second month? My derm started me low in an attempt to avoid the IB and then increased my dose during the second month.

Also, my skin got more oily before drying up, so don't be discouraged by the oil.

Best of luck in your treatment!

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 10:30 AM

QUOTE(Arista @ Sep 13 2006, 12:01 PM) View Post

Hey LabGirl. Does your derm plan to increase your dose during your second month? My derm started me low in an attempt to avoid the IB and then increased my dose during the second month.

Also, my skin got more oily before drying up, so don't be discouraged by the oil.

Best of luck in your treatment!



I don't think so, but I'm going to try to convince him to. He gave me a Rx for 12 refiils on bloodwork.....but I don't want to be on 20mg for a year.......I want to be on 40-60mg for 5 months.........Hopefully I'll be smack dab in the middle of the IB.....and still be a bit oily when I see him Oct. 6th......if my bloodwork looks good I'm going to tell him to increse it to 40mg.....hopefully he'll comply.......

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 11:24 PM

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so instead of squatting 245lb a few times.....I squat 60lbs for six minutes without a break......I cut my weight back to 45lbs....and my ass is sooooo sore today.........I have no reason to be sore....I used way less weight then I normally do, and even when I max out I'm usually not remotely as sore as this the next day, since my muscles are pretty used to it by now........



You're sore because it's different. Squatting max or near-max weight a few times is very different than squatting lower weight but for a lot longer. In terms of volume, both are still high, but you're working your muscles in different ways. High weight + low reps=strength, power and mass building, low weight + high reps (or lots of time without break) = high endurance and strength. Two totally different animals. So don't be too worried it's accutane. As far as your body's concerned, it just did something WAAAY different than usual, even though you'd think it would be used to it because you've lifted a lot of weight.

And just so you know I'm not pulling this out of my ass, I have a degree in Kinesiology form McGill University, am a certified personal trainer (CanFitPro), am registered through CSEP (Candian Society of Exercise Physiologists) as a Certified Fitness Consultant, am STOTT-Pilates certified and BCRPA certified as a group exercise instructor. wacko.gif

I lifted all through my accutane course and didn't feel a stitch different while training on accutane than training without accutane. And I lift pretty heavy too. But everyone's differnt.

I'm so glad you finally got it! I don't see your posts as mucvh anymore-I hunt for them but they seem fewer and far between.

Now I have to ask you something (but don't get too technical on me or I'll get lost): Why is Curel so good? Is it non-comedogenic (evn though the tests dfon't mean much, I still like to see that on the label) and what kind do you get? The huge body-lotion bottle? For your face? I saw it today but didn't get it because I'm not sure...also, I;m in Canada so we might have different products. Thanks!


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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:26 AM

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so instead of squatting 245lb a few times.....I squat 60lbs for six minutes without a break......I cut my weight back to 45lbs....and my ass is sooooo sore today.........I have no reason to be sore....I used way less weight then I normally do, and even when I max out I'm usually not remotely as sore as this the next day, since my muscles are pretty used to it by now........



You're sore because it's different. Squatting max or near-max weight a few times is very different than squatting lower weight but for a lot longer. In terms of volume, both are still high, but you're working your muscles in different ways. High weight + low reps=strength, power and mass building, low weight + high reps (or lots of time without break) = high endurance and strength. Two totally different animals. So don't be too worried it's accutane. As far as your body's concerned, it just did something WAAAY different than usual, even though you'd think it would be used to it because you've lifted a lot of weight.

And just so you know I'm not pulling this out of my ass, I have a degree in Kinesiology form McGill University, am a certified personal trainer (CanFitPro), am registered through CSEP (Candian Society of Exercise Physiologists) as a Certified Fitness Consultant, am STOTT-Pilates certified and BCRPA certified as a group exercise instructor. wacko.gif

I lifted all through my accutane course and didn't feel a stitch different while training on accutane than training without accutane. And I lift pretty heavy too. But everyone's differnt.

I'm so glad you finally got it! I don't see your posts as mucvh anymore-I hunt for them but they seem fewer and far between.

Now I have to ask you something (but don't get too technical on me or I'll get lost): Why is Curel so good? Is it non-comedogenic (evn though the tests dfon't mean much, I still like to see that on the label) and what kind do you get? The huge body-lotion bottle? For your face? I saw it today but didn't get it because I'm not sure...also, I;m in Canada so we might have different products. Thanks!



Hey....thanks for coming to my log!!!!

I know what you mean about low weight/ high reps being different than high weight low reps. I always do a combination of both........One or two days a week I lift heavy, and one or two days a week I lift light (my favorite class at my gym). As long as I don't take a week or two off I'm never sore, unless I increase my weight.........

This was odd, because I was used to using 60bs at my class for the squat track without any delayed onset soreness, but Monday I cut back to 45 because I my knee was bothering me a little the week before, and wanted to take it easy........the track was way easier, but I was more sore then I've been in ages.......so sore that I couldn't go back to the class last night........

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 12:21 PM

LabGirl,

I'm glad you have finally started your course and I hope your results are as good as or better than mine! I've read some of your highly technical posts in the past and was very grateful for the information you provided, even though I couldn't decipher all of it! Thanks for being a great resource for us all!

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 01:06 PM

QUOTE(LabGirl81 @ Sep 13 2006, 04:57 PM) View Post

QUOTE(paladinclub @ Sep 13 2006, 11:12 AM) View Post

Hey Labgirl,

Wow you're doing 80mg/day! Good luck with it ! I'll be following your progress as you started roundabout the same time as me(3 days earlier (A)).

All the Best!!:D



No...I'm only doing 20mg a day....did I say 80mg somewhere????



Whoops! My bad! biggrin.gif 20mg/ day it is. 4 days into the tane and it's already getting to my brains lol good luck wit hit anyways I'll be following your progress!:D

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Posted 15 September 2006 - 10:58 AM

Day 9:



So I finally stopped being sore. I'm not really convinced it was the Accutane messing with my muscles (or healing of muscls) or if it was that I used lower weight. I thought the track was easy, but I realized I was probably squatting a little bit lower then I do with the higher weight.....and worked the muscles a little differently.....I'm going to stick with the lower weights for now.....obviously it's doing something........



So my skin sucks. I am getting an initial breakout. Right now it's not so bad, but I am getting cysts. I have two, plus one that ruptured on it's own in in my sleep leaving a bloody mess on my nice white 600 thread count pillow and sheet........



My nose is itchy and my throat hurts a little (maybe I'm getting a cold).......and my scalp is soooo itchy and flakey.....my face is just painful, super oily, and bumpy......the areas where I'm the oiliest (my T-zone) it really itchy and red.....so something is going on.........I'm not sure what though............



I noticed last night that my tattoos are swelling up and itchy.......they are actually raised like welts or something.....

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Posted 15 September 2006 - 01:58 PM

hey Labgirl, Sorry to hear about the IB. Don't worry it your skin will be much less oily soon. It took about two weeks for the oil to completely go away for me. the soreness you were feeling before probably does have to do with the Accutane at least some what. me as well as some other people on here who started around the same time got soreness during the first week, but it went away.
If I were you I would definitely ask the derm to up my dose if you don't have any bad side effects. I'd rather be on a high dose and knock the acne out in a shorter time.

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Posted 15 September 2006 - 05:44 PM

Just remember, LabGirl... if you're getting your IB, then the 'Tane is starting to work. Hang in there! You'll wake up one morning and be completely clear.

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Posted 15 September 2006 - 08:11 PM

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and my scalp is soooo itchy and flakey


Ugh...mine got so bad I freaked out and started to cry....but don't worry-it goes away soon after you stop and you hardly ever have to wash your hair! biggrin.gif

What about the Curel? Your workout regime sounds great BTW.

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 10:31 AM

hey Labgrl just dropping by to see how you are doing.I took my first pill last night.Im also on 20mg once a day.Hopefully your IB will clear soon.take care talk to you soon.

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 10:41 AM

yea IB sucks, but you get over it. I am starting to clear up finally which is awesome!!!! 20 mg seems a little low, do you know what your max dosage will be?

good luck,
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Posted 16 September 2006 - 12:25 PM

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and my scalp is soooo itchy and flakey


Ugh...mine got so bad I freaked out and started to cry....but don't worry-it goes away soon after you stop and you hardly ever have to wash your hair! biggrin.gif

What about the Curel? Your workout regime sounds great BTW.




I've noticed my hair is less oily then usual.....And this morning I woke up and my face wasn't covered in oil like it usually is.



Sorry I forgot about Curel.......Curel is just a really great formula. The pH is pretty low (about 5.5) and it uses cationic emulsifiers, which are mild, acidic, and antimicrobial so alot of preservatives aren't required......I don't use it on my face....it contains isopropyl myristate, which isn't the least comedogenic ingredient (although some of the varieties do claim that they won't clog pores), but it's great for the body.......I will be using it on my chest and upper back, which are prone to breakouts, but I have a feeling the Accutane will override the potential comedogenicity of the lotion.............I've never needed a body lotion ever.....my skin on my body is never dry (and even on tane it's not so far), but I don't want excema or xerosis later in my course.....I've heard a few very experienced formulators that rave about Curel's lotions....



QUOTE(Married2AGamer @ Sep 16 2006, 12:31 PM) View Post
hey Labgrl just dropping by to see how you are doing.I took my first pill last night.Im also on 20mg once a day.Hopefully your IB will clear soon.take care talk to you soon.




Congrats on finally starting.......Wasn't it a total pain in the ass to get.......



Thanks for stopping by.....Good luck with your course



QUOTE(Bob Smith @ Sep 16 2006, 12:41 PM) View Post
yea IB sucks, but you get over it. I am starting to clear up finally which is awesome!!!! 20 mg seems a little low, do you know what your max dosage will be?

good luck,
bob




Glad to hear it's working......Yeah 20mg is low....I should be on 40-60mg.....but my derm thinks otherwise.....manybe he'll increase it next month.........I don't care if I need an extra month or to but I want my cumulative dosage to be 120-150mg/kg.......



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Posted 16 September 2006 - 06:24 PM

QUOTE(LabGirl81 @ Sep 15 2006, 12:58 PM) View Post


My nose is itchy and my throat hurts a little (maybe I'm getting a cold).......and my scalp is soooo itchy and flakey.....my face is just painful, super oily, and bumpy......the areas where I'm the oiliest (my T-zone) it really itchy and red.....so something is going on.........I'm not sure what though............

I noticed last night that my tattoos are swelling up and itchy.......they are actually raised like welts or something.....



Hello LabGirl. Congrats on getting tane. It's a wonderful drug that clears you up but kicks your ass while doing it. lol.gif I went through the same thing with the itchy scalp (drove me crazy); extra oily face and bumpy skin. It'll pass just takes a little bit of time. Don't know what to say about the tats. Never noticed anything different with mine. Don't think I've seen anyone comment on them before. Anyway, good luck to ya.............

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 07:51 PM

Labgirl, best of luck on the 'tane! Hang on through the IB, it sucks but its worth it!

I will be starting my FIFTH course (yes fifth!) in a week. Can't wait smile.gif

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 07:27 AM

Day 12:

So this intial breakout is kinda playing games with me. It was getting bad, but then it cleared up. I can still feel the bumps, but they are tiny. The lesions I thought were cysts, were just angry pustules. All but one ruptured already........I'm getting a bunch of very small pustules all around my mouth......I never breakout here, so something's def. going on...........



My face is drier, but not totally devoid of sebum......and my lips are dry, but nothing a little Aquaphor can't fix.........I've also found that this raw material I have at works really helps......10-30 Cholesterol / Lanestearol Esters....



My tattoos stopped itching and swelling.......my fiance said that his sometimes do that, and he's never taken tane....so who knows...........











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Posted 19 September 2006 - 05:48 PM

Day 13:

My acne isn't clear yet, but it's not as bad as it's been recently. My inital breakout was just teasing me. I was expecting more of a flair up but I'm only on 20mgs, and it's early. My skin doesn't look great but it's not so bad really.....I have cysts/ nodules that come and go rapidly, and I'm not so shiney so all those whiteheads don't show up.....today I only had one big one on my cheek....it's a really deep nodule, quicly becomming a cyst.....

The nose itching sin't so bad anymore.....and my scalp calmed down and my hair looks awsome. I hadn't realized how oily my scalp was....my hair is a totally different color at the roots now.....it's really blonde.....and way lighter then my lowlights.....but darker then my highlights......and my curls are looser and my hair has so much more volume and body......I haven't washed it since Saturday.......and don't plan on washing tomorrow either........

My face as of today is devoid of sebum completely......


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Posted 19 September 2006 - 06:37 PM

Oooooooooooooooooo! Isn't it neat when you don't have to wash your hair? I was a once-a-dayer and went down to a twcie-a-weeker! Now I'm every other day to every day again-phooey.

Sound slike you're doing well!

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 06:47 PM

hi labgirl. glad to see your log! i only wash my hair once a week since on tane. glad your ib is calming and the cyst were not cysts. cyst are sad.gif i have one now ...oh well....




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