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[morpho]

The results after ONE day? Shocking.
I looked in the mirror when I had the chance tonight and was amazed. The bumps are still there but they have no color! They're normally bright red and sore to the touch. Not only are they not sore, it's like the color's been flushed out of them. The only places where it's even noticeable is where I've picked them ( ), leaving several scabs. But I have to admit, after one night there's at least a 50-60% improvement. It doesn’t even look like bacne anymore. It's the best my back's looked in about two years...after only one night! I'll definitely keep using this idea and I'll keep updating my improvement.

i'm having this same result that the acne that was there faded in color almost immediately, except for the worst places in the middle of my back where i had picked/popped. i'm going to try the acne free scar eraser all over my back, once i'm confident that i'm clear, to try to clear up the red/brown marks.

[Purified]

I tried it last night and put it on both body and face. It was much too strong for my face... it burns and is very tight and slightly itchy. But my back isn't reacting badly to it... but even though it's hurting my face it definitely took away the redness OVERNIGHT. I'm excited to see the results on my back after a few uses.



EDIT UPDATE:

It've noticed that the colorless small bumps on my forehead and shoulders are now gone!!! I'm amazed! I only used H&S once!

But still be careful with the H&S on your face... the skin gets real irritated from it. Recommended only for body acne. But feel free to use it on your face if you don't mind feeling like you have sunburn on your face for a few hours.

[morpho]

i've just finished my bottle of head and shoulder (i'm using an intensive care version for oily hair that has 2% zinc) and am definitely getting another one! there is such a difference in my back since starting it...my skin just FEELS smooth and soft, as well as less oily. i have a few pimples in the middle of my back but haven't been breaking out at all the way i have for, oh, over 15 years! i think if i didn't have scars/red and brown marks and hypertrophic macules (little pocket things of whitish skin), it would look like i have really good skin
just hoping to find a way for the scars to clear up...

[pana1]

ive passed three weeks now using h&s twice a day Bp gel at night.

heres what im seeing: my back has gone from pretty awful to almost perfect but its really dry (im guessing from my overuse of h&s). when i stopped using bp this weekend, i wound up getting a few more pimples on my back (but nothing even romotely close to the size before I started with h&s). once i started back on the bp, they went away

im gonna start doing h&s once a day... then maybe once every two days.. plus some moisurizer.. right now though my back is so much better then it was before. i can take my shirt off without being embarassed. my advice so far: start off with the twice a day h&s application... like to really attack the acne. then slowly back off from it when you see results

i think someone asked how much to put on. i put on maybe less than half a handful if that helps... my main goal is to get a good lather going and leave it for a few minutes to penetrate.

[Purified]

Yeah... so I would suggest not to put a lot on... and maybe even to wash it off instead of leaving it on. Even though it got rid of all my acne, my skin is now horribly, painfully dry.

[Rotated]

maybe even to wash it off instead of leaving it on

Leavin it on

Haven't tried that yet, isn't that going to itch?

[Wahey]

It gives me a rash, try it once to see, you might be uncomfortable for a few days. Oh and dont get it on your nipples

[G0DLIK3]

Guys just came back, haven't had acne for a while (been tanning hardcore). I need help though. So whats with the H&S? I have a bottle right now. TAke a shower, leave it on for a few minutes rinse it off. And put some on and wear it through out the day?

[xaaronx]

I started using the h&s technique today, I used the classic clean one, but was just wondering how much do you put on your back?

Do you put alot on and lather it up?

[answerme]

Shampoo can be drying though... didn't it cause you to itch? Why not just buy a cream with zinc in it? Or a sunscreen with zinc in it? Zinc is the same as zinc oxide right?

zinc pyrithione

Zinc pyrithione (abbreviated ZnP and also known as pyrithione zinc) is an antifungal agent best known for its use in treating dandruff and seborrheic dermatitis. It also has antibacterial properties and is effective against many pathogens from the streptococcus and staphylococcus class. Other medical uses involve treatment of psoriasis, eczema, ringworm, fungus, athletes foot, dry skin, atypical dermatitis, tinea, vitiligo, etc. It is the key active ingredient in Head & Shoulders shampoo.

Due to its low solubility in water (8 ppm at neutral pH), it is commonly used in outdoor paints and other products that need protection from mildew and algae. It is an effective algaecide. As it is an excellent chelating agent, it can not be used in paints relying on metal carboxalate catalysts to cure. When used in latex paints and the water contains high amount of iron, a sequestering agent that will preferentially bind the iron ions is needed. Its decomposition by ultraviolet light is slow and gradual, providing years of protection even on direct sunlight.

Its antifungal effect most likely lies in inhibition of membrane transport, probably via intracellular inhibition of the proton pump energizing the transport mechanism by an un-ionized pyrithione molecule. Fungi are capable of inactivating pyrithione in low concentrations.

It is known under trade name zinc OMADINE.

It was first synthesized in 1930s.

The chemical name is zinc 2-pyridinethiol-n-oxide, or also bis(1-hydroxy-2(1H)-pyridineselonato-O,S) zinc, and the summary formula is C10H8N2O2S2Zn (two organic molecules forming a complex with their oxygen and sulfur atoms around the zinc atom).

source:
http://www.answers.com/topic/zinc-pyrithione


zinc oxide

zinc oxide, chemical compound, ZnO, that is nearly insoluble in water but soluble in acids or alkalies. It occurs as white hexagonal crystals or a white powder commonly known as zinc white. Zinc white is used as a pigment in paints; less opaque than lithopone, it remains white when exposed to hydrogen sulfide or ultraviolet light. It is also used as a filler for rubber goods and in coatings for paper. Chinese white is a special grade of zinc white used in artists' pigments. Because it absorbs ultraviolet light, zinc oxide can be used in ointments, creams, and lotions to protect against sunburn. Crystalline zinc oxide exhibits the piezoelectric effect, is luminescent, and is light sensitive. Zinc oxide occurs in nature as the mineral zincite. Zinc peroxide, ZnO2·1/2H2O, is a white to yellow powder used in antiseptic ointments.

source:
http://www.answers.com/zinc%20oxide

Does anyone know if the type of H&S recommended (there are so many of them now) is available in America? If so, can you list where you purchased it? I noticed those who purchased the exact product listed initially, are from the UK. I would love to give this a try, but I don't want to substitute. Products can seem virtually the same, but not have the same effects.

walgreens & rite aid has the H&S classic clean.

I started the H&S routine a few weeks ago and I've been getting lots of small red bumps onm y body. THey don't turn into whiteheads or anything like that but they are annoying. I remember reading about H&S possibly clogging pores (if it doesn't work for your bacne).. Could this be the case with me? I'm planning to stick it out for another week or so before switching methods..

Edit: I'm pretty sure the bumps I've started getting are Pityrosporum Folliculitis. I thought H&S was supposed to help PF. Instead it just have me a breakout of PF which I didn't really get before H&S.... Any suggestions?

you might want to look into this one for PF.

http://www.vmvhypoallergenics.com/askvmv/i...d=24&c=root

[Purified]

maybe even to wash it off instead of leaving it on

Leavin it on

Haven't tried that yet, isn't that going to itch?

Yes, horribly for two weeks... if your skin is sensitive, like mine. I was told to leave it on but that was a mistake and I'm just going for the wash method now.

It's funny... because on your skin, H&S does the opposite of what it is supposed to do, and CREATES dandruff!!!

[dog20]

i've been doing this for a week with H&S Classic Clean shampoo and I definately see improvement!! thanks a lot.

[webstar]

Does anyone know if the type of H&S recommended (there are so many of them now) is available in America? If so, can you list where you purchased it? I noticed those who purchased the exact product listed initially, are from the UK. I would love to give this a try, but I don't want to substitute. Products can seem virtually the same, but not have the same effects.

walgreens & rite aid has the H&S classic clean.

Thank you.

I actually found a travel size of the Classic Clean that I had in my drawer and used it... it worked much better than another type that I had of the larger size and was testing out. So I figured that was the one to buy.

But thank you for answering my question... it was very sweet of you.

It's funny... because on your skin, H&S does the opposite of what it is supposed to do, and CREATES dandruff!!!

Could you elaborate on this? I'm curious to know what you mean exactly.

So far, this regimen has worked (and I never left it on to dry, always washed it off from the very beginning). There is the one side effect that I'm experiencing of really dry skin, but I'm sure it's nothing that lotion wouldn't cure. I'm just waiting a couple more weeks to start applying lotion... don't want to break out before I see if this is going to keep me totally clear.

Like someone else mentioned though, I wish I had known about this method a long time ago - I'd have way less scarring. The thing is, I actually read that it cleared up bacne on a grocery website under some reviews around a year ago - I just didn't know how to use it. The guy said that when he washed his hair, it would trickle down his back on its own - glad someone posted an actual way of doing this.

[justinian]

H and S really worked for me. But after a week it dried my skin a lot. So now I use the H and S with Aloe Vera (for dry hair), which is more mild. Works fine! I've also seen a product by Dermadoctor called Born to Be Mild with 2% Zinc Pyrithione (the active ingredient in H and S), which is meant to be mild and able to be used for face as well as body. Anyone tried it?

[answerme]

H and S really worked for me. But after a week it dried my skin a lot. So now I use the H and S with Aloe Vera (for dry hair), which is more mild. Works fine! I've also seen a product by Dermadoctor called Born to Be Mild with 2% Zinc Pyrithione (the active ingredient in H and S), which is meant to be mild and able to be used for face as well as body. Anyone tried it?

not me. but ive heard dermadoctor products are good. i find them quite expensive though. let us know if you're gonna try it.

[the chronic]

i think this stuff is working, ive been on it 3 days and i havent really had any new acne develop. i have about 3 pimples on my body now. but i have a lot of red marks. i dont really know what these are. they're not white/black heads, not cysts, not tender bumps, not bunps at all. just small flat marks. what are these? scars? remains of acne?

[nloo]

apply Certain Dri anti perspirant to back that will do the trick!

[webstar]

i think this stuff is working, ive been on it 3 days and i havent really had any new acne develop. i have about 3 pimples on my body now. but i have a lot of red marks. i dont really know what these are. they're not white/black heads, not cysts, not tender bumps, not bunps at all. just small flat marks. what are these? scars? remains of acne?

Unfortunately, yes, they are scars.

But don't be discouraged, that is a good thing - it means your acne is clearing up which means if you stick with it, you won't get anymore red marks, and the ones you do have... will eventually fade with time.

[webstar]

H and S really worked for me. But after a week it dried my skin a lot. So now I use the H and S with Aloe Vera (for dry hair), which is more mild. Works fine! I've also seen a product by Dermadoctor called Born to Be Mild with 2% Zinc Pyrithione (the active ingredient in H and S), which is meant to be mild and able to be used for face as well as body. Anyone tried it?

Interesting...

I was using the one with Aloe Vera (I use it as my regular shampoo) and found that it didn't quite clear me up as much as the sample bottle of the Classic Clean that I had - and it was drying my skin as well - so I just bought a large bottle of the other.

The ingredients are basically the same except for the Aloe and I believe, two other ingredients, but I'm guessing that it might have been those 2-3 ingredients that were keeping me from becoming totally clear.

[the chronic]

well i woke up today and the red marks had faded considerably in color, from bright red to a very pale red. this stuff fucking works miracles. still no acne on my body. fuck all that other bullshit of cutting out dairy, red meat, and wheat. putting benzyol peroxide and having to only wear white. fuck that. the cure for body acne is shampoo