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#1 ladyhaze

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 08:53 AM

Okay, so I'm new to this whole vitamin stuff.

I'm currently just taking vitamin A. 8,000 IU

All day yesterday and today I've been reading up and down on the forum about what vitamins to take to help control acne.

I'm confused. sad.gif

So far this is what I've come up with.. correct me if need be.

Would it be alright to take...

Vitamin b5
Vitamin B complex
Vitamin C
Vitamin E
Vitamin A
Zinc
Magnesium

Are all those vitamins okay to take all at the same time? Are all those vitamins even necessary to take? How about Probiotic? Selenium? Biotin?... Broccoli? -Sighs- SOOOOOOOO FREAKIN MANY! sad.gif Okay okay.. so what's basically necessary? And what isn't? And how much of each? I'll be off to the Vitaminshoppe as soon as I get answers so... por favor? smile.gif THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 09:50 AM

Why don't you use a food analysis software life fitday of what vitamins and minerals your intake is inadequate?
So you would know what you need to supplement
Zinc is a good idea because it's a nutrient a proper intake of is lacking in average mainstream diets
So is Vitamin B complex (I would take both vitamin B5 and B complex together, if you take B complex you don't need B5) vitamins and minerals are one of those cases where more is not necessarily better

Vitamin E supplement can be toxic at small doses so why don't you dress your food with extra virgin olive oil instad and would have all the vitamin E you need
Magnesium if you eat enough greens and vegetables you may have enough and a supplement may not be necessary

Just my two cents

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 10:36 AM

Where can I find this "software"? Never heard of it.

I don't eat enough greens.. that's my problem. sad.gif So I guess a supplement, in my case, is necessary.

About the b5, I don't plan on taking a million pills all in one day so should I really just get the b complex? Woud it still be as effective? I guessing that's the reason why people taking the b5 with the b complex aren't just taking the b complex alone cause they want more b5 than all the other b's. Hee.

So how's this? B complex, zinc, magnesium, vitamin E.. cause i KNow I probably won't add the olive oil to my food, though it's a good idea.

So it's not necessary to take Vitamin C? or A? And the pro biotic? How about a pill combining oils... flax oil, evening prim rose oil, etc. Lol. Sorry. I'm getting there. Thanks.








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Posted 28 June 2006 - 11:41 AM

QUOTE(ladyhaze @ Jun 28 2006, 05:36 PM)

I don't eat enough greens.. that's my problem


The words "wood" and "trees" spring to mind eusa_wall.gif

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 12:52 PM

I don't think these are all necessary. Sure they may help your skin a little, but in the end is it wroth all that money?

I suggest you go one at a time, see which one works for you best, and stick to that!

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 09:09 PM

QUOTE(ladyhaze @ Jun 28 2006, 10:36 AM)

Where can I find this "software"? Never heard of it.


www.fitday.com/

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 09:29 PM

I really don't recommend spending your time or money on supplements. Supplements are not needed if your diet is in order.

And you definitely don't need supplements to clear your skin. I use no supplements at all.

If you'd like some tips on a good diet, check out my article about How to Cure Your Acne - Diet

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 09:33 PM

QUOTE(HealthDude @ Jun 28 2006, 09:29 PM)

I really don't recommend spending your time or money on supplements. Supplements are not needed if your diet is in order.

And you definitely don't need supplements to clear your skin. I use no supplements at all.

If you'd like some tips on a good diet, check out my article about How to Cure Your Acne - Diet


But organic is so expensive !! sad.gif

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 10:06 PM

QUOTE(Danny89 @ Jun 28 2006, 08:33 PM)

But organic is so expensive !! sad.gif

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You can actually eat organic fairly cheaply. Check out this article: Your Family Could be Eating Organic Food for the Same Price as Processed Foods - or Less

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Posted 29 June 2006 - 05:30 PM

Wow, thanks for sharing your success story. How long were you taking the broccoli supplements for before you noticed a difference?


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Posted 29 June 2006 - 05:39 PM

QUOTE(Hopefully Optimistic @ Jun 30 2006, 12:30 AM)

Wow, thanks for sharing your success story. How long were you taking the broccoli supplements for before you noticed a difference?


lol i think the word your looking for is oops!

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Posted 30 June 2006 - 08:36 AM

b vitamins are always healthy

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Posted 30 June 2006 - 10:16 AM

Hi! I work in a natural vitamin and health store (not GNC) and have been a dealing with acne for about 12 years. I'll try to answer some of the questions you raised.

Supplements are necessary if you are not getting a complete diet, which almost all of America is lacking. Taking a good Multi-Vitamin is essential for the body. One thing to note about vitamin supplements is the RDA value. This value has not changed in over 40 years! This causes much confusion about what to take and what is actually an overdose.

If you can afford to spend a bit more, Whole Food vitamins are really the best. Mega Foods makes an extensive line of vitamins which are entirely Whole Food and processed by Cold Fusion, meaning the supplements are not heated during processing, which helps to keep the natural proteins active in the supplement. Taking a Whole Food (or partially Whole Food) supplement is in my opinion the best because the vitamins and minerals are found proportionally, like they would be in food.Studies have shown that the protein-bound vitamins which are found in whole food supplements are absorbed, utilized, and retained better than supplements that are not protein-bound (synthetics).

If funds are lacking, take a "budget-friendly" vitamin that is NOT synthetic, such as those by NOW Foods. Synthetic vitamins have been produced in labs from isolated chemicals that mirror the natural counterparts. Natural vitamins are derived from food sources. If taking a non Whole Food vitamin supplement, take it with food. It will help your body absorb and transport the vitamins.

As far as B vitamins go, a good complex is essential especially if you don't take a Multi-Vitamin or your Multi doesn't have a good balance as far as B vitamins go. If you have a specific ammount of Vitamin B5 that you are trying to get, I would recommend trying to get that ammount in a complex. The NOW Foods brand makes two inexpensive B Complexes(regular and high potency). If you want more of a particular B, such as B5, a B complex should still always be taken because the B vitamins work together in the body. Take about 2 to 3 times more of B5. Also note that B3 in the form of Niacinamide NOT NIACIN helps improve blood flow to the face. B vitamins are relatively inexpensive, some as little as 8 dollars for a 3 month supply.

Other supplements (and approximate prices):
Vitamin A is suggested because it helps to strengthen the epithelial skin tissue. For people with acne, 25,000 IU is suggested daily until healed, with 5,000 IU for maintenance. (IF pregnant, take no more than 10,000 IU). Price is about 4.50 for Now Foods Vitamin A 25,000 IU (3 month supply)
Vitamin C is used to promote immune function and reduce inflammation. It also helps with collagen repair of the skin tissue. 1,000 mg 3 times daily is suggested. Approximately 10 dollars for 3000 total mg/day supply (1 month).
Vitamin D promotes healing and tissue repair; 400 IU daily. Approximately 5 dollars for a 4 month supply.
Vitamin E is an antioxidant that enhances healing and tissue repair. Use the d-alpha-tocopherol form. 400 IU daily. Approximately 6 dollars for 2 months.
Potassium deficiency has been associated with acne. If you would like to supplement with this, 99 mg daily is ideal. Approximately 4 dollars for a 3 month supply.
Zinc helps to to heal tissue and prevent scaring. It also functions in the oil producing glands of the skin. Take 30 to 80 mg daily (total from all supplements). Don't take more than 100 mg. Approximately 6 dollars for 3 months.
Oils - Essential fatty acids are used to keep the skin smooth and soft, repair tissues, and dissolve fatty deposits that block pores. They also aid in healing. Good sources are flaxseed oil and primrose oil. Take them as directed on the label. A supplement combining the oils is a really good idea, especially one that contains the Omega 3, 6, and 9 oils. Ultra Omega 3/6/9 by Nature's Plus is a really good supplement that contains borage, fish, and flax oils. It is about 20 dollars for a 3 month supply.
Probiotics are healthy bacteria which live in the intestinal tract. Lactobacilli and Bifidobacteria make up a majority of the bacterial cells. The small intestine contains mostly Lactobacilli, while the large intestine contains mostly bifidobacteria. Other bacterias which may be contained are also important, but these two are prevalent. Probiotics help promote a healthy immune system, vitamin manufacturing, detoxification, use of nutrients, and also help create an environment which can defeat harmful bacteria and yeast. Candida related acne sufferers should definitely take probiotics, as should those taking antibiotics, which kill both good and bad bacteria. Eating a cup of yogurt won't cut it. Probiotic supplements are also known as Flora supplements. A cost friendly formula is the Now foods 8 Billion Acidophilus & Bifidus formula. It is about 10 dollars for a 60 day supply.

Whew! That was a lot of typing. smile.gif

To sum that all up, I'd recommend taking a good Multi-Vitamin if you can't afford anything else. I know the world of supplements is overwhelming, trust me I deal with it every day. I hope I helped answer some of your questions.

SOURCES -
My job.
My boss who has been in the supplement business for 30 years.
Nutritional Healing by Phyllis A. Balch, CNC and James F. Balch, M.D. (LOTS of info, great read for any ailment or general information).




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