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[myspip]

Just check here to see which ingredients are good or bad: http://www.zerozits.com/Articles/acne_detective/article6.htm

[daria]

do you know if all eucerin products are good to use on acne-prone skin?

[User15978]

Hey Snow Queen. Well I bought the Simple cleanser. I think the ingredients varies just a little bit from the Australian site to the ingredients printed on the bottle. So here are the ingredients taken from the bottle:

Aqua, Sodium laureth sulphate, cocomide-DEA, Glycerin, PEG-7 Glyceryl Cocoate, Panthenol, Cocoamidopropyl Betaine, Bis-PEG/PPG-20/20 Dimethicone, Sodium Methylparaben, Citric Acid, Sodium Chloride, Tocopheryl Acetate, Dipropylene Glycol, 2-Bromo-2-Nitropropane-1, 3-Diol, Chamomile oil, and pelargonium graveolens oil.

Are these ingredients okay? Thank-you

[leilakim]

wow i learned a lot from this thread. now i knoe some things that i never knew before.

[Rache]

I was wondering would these ingredient dry, irritate my skin?..By the way, my skin is fine to SA(for some odd reason..it doesn't irritate it).

I want to change my cleanser..and this one seemed promising.
And as lame as this sounds..I am scared to use Dove foaming cleanser(because people I know have broken out..from it with hard pimples around there jaws..)

By the way I have combination skin(dry certain areas for a bit..then gets a little oily, but still theres the dry spots on my face). Its also senstive(redness is an issue, and I get rashes if I am to harsh if my face)

Ingredients:
Water (aqua), Stearic Acid, Decyl Glucoside, Cetyl Alcohol, Glycerin, Polyquaternium 37, Propylene Glycol Dicaprylate/Dicaprate, PPG 1 Trideceth 6, Jojoba Esters, Glycol Stearate, Divinyldimethicone/Dimethicone Copolymer, C12-13 Pareth 23, C12-13 Pareth 3, Laureth 23, Salicylic Acid, Melaleuca Alternifolia Leaf Extract (tea tree), Polysorbate 20, Propylene Glycol, Prunus Armeniaca Fruit Extract (apricot), Zea Mays Kernel Meal (corn), Sambucus Nigra Flower Extract, Primula Veris Extract, Helianthus Annuus Extract (sunflower), Chamomilla Recutita Flower Extract (matricaria), Petrolatum, Dimethicone, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Tocopheryl Acetate, Sodium PCA, Betaine, Sorbitol, Glycine, Alanine, Proline, Serine, Threonine, Arginine, Lysine, Glutamic Acid, Silica, Urea, Niacinamide, Ascorbic Acid, Triethanolamine, Menthyl Lactate, Disodium EDTA, DMDM Hydantoin, Methlparaben, Fragrance (parfum), Mica (CI 77019), Titanium Dioxide (CI 77891), Red 30 Lake (CI 73360), Yellow 5 Lake (CI 19140)

Thanks luv

[The_Snow_Queen]

I was wondering would these ingredient dry, irritate my skin?..By the way, my skin is fine to SA(for some odd reason..it doesn't irritate it).

I want to change my cleanser..and this one seemed promising.
And as lame as this sounds..I am scared to use Dove foaming cleanser(because people I know have broken out..from it with hard pimples around there jaws..)

By the way I have combination skin(dry certain areas for a bit..then gets a little oily, but still theres the dry spots on my face). Its also senstive(redness is an issue, and I get rashes if I am to harsh if my face)

Ingredients:
Water (aqua), Stearic Acid, Decyl Glucoside, Cetyl Alcohol, Glycerin, Polyquaternium 37, Propylene Glycol Dicaprylate/Dicaprate, PPG 1 Trideceth 6, Jojoba Esters, Glycol Stearate, Divinyldimethicone/Dimethicone Copolymer, C12-13 Pareth 23, C12-13 Pareth 3, Laureth 23, Salicylic Acid, Melaleuca Alternifolia Leaf Extract (tea tree), Polysorbate 20, Propylene Glycol, Prunus Armeniaca Fruit Extract (apricot), Zea Mays Kernel Meal (corn), Sambucus Nigra Flower Extract, Primula Veris Extract, Helianthus Annuus Extract (sunflower), Chamomilla Recutita Flower Extract (matricaria), Petrolatum, Dimethicone, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Tocopheryl Acetate, Sodium PCA, Betaine, Sorbitol, Glycine, Alanine, Proline, Serine, Threonine, Arginine, Lysine, Glutamic Acid, Silica, Urea, Niacinamide, Ascorbic Acid, Triethanolamine, Menthyl Lactate, Disodium EDTA, DMDM Hydantoin, Methlparaben, Fragrance (parfum), Mica (CI 77019), Titanium Dioxide (CI 77891), Red 30 Lake (CI 73360), Yellow 5 Lake (CI 19140)

Thanks luv

The cleanser has fragrance and colorings which could be irritating, but not in any significant ammounts. Other than that, it looks OK.

I'm surprised St. Ives included petrolatum in the product's formulation given that most oily and combination skin types avoid that ingredient for fear of clogged pores. Personally, I've found that cleansers using petrolatum don't rinse cleanly, but even so they don't seem to complicate my breakouts. However, everyone's different. If you do get this cleanser, I recommend using a gentle toner like Nivea Visage Moisturizing Toner to help remove any residue that may be left behind.

The cleanser does contain salicylic acid (exfoliant) and tea tree oil (disinfectant), but such medications are usually wasted in cleansers. Salicylic acid acts as an exfolliant in products having pH's of 4 or lower. Almost all cleansers have pH's of 5 or higher. Even if this cleanser were the exception, the salicylic acid would be washed away before it could do too much, and the same comment applies to the tea tree oil. If you let the cleanser sit on your skin in hopes that the medication would have time to penetrate, then the surfectants (detergent cleansing agents that include decyl glucoside and sodium laureth sulfate) would have time to irritate the skin.

Also, breakouts can take two weeks to develop, so if the people you know that used the Dove cleanser broke out within the first week of trying it, chances are it was coincidence. If they had been using it for a few weeks and still broke out, were they using any other new products around the same time?

[The_Snow_Queen]

Hey Snow Queen. Well I bought the Simple cleanser. I think the ingredients varies just a little bit from the Australian site to the ingredients printed on the bottle. So here are the ingredients taken from the bottle:

Aqua, Sodium laureth sulphate, cocomide-DEA, Glycerin, PEG-7 Glyceryl Cocoate, Panthenol, Cocoamidopropyl Betaine, Bis-PEG/PPG-20/20 Dimethicone, Sodium Methylparaben, Citric Acid, Sodium Chloride, Tocopheryl Acetate, Dipropylene Glycol, 2-Bromo-2-Nitropropane-1, 3-Diol, Chamomile oil, and pelargonium graveolens oil.

Are these ingredients okay? Thank-you

That cleanser looks fine. Like the other formulation, it does have fragrance (in the form of pelargonium graveolens oil), but not in any significant amount.

The only differences I can see in this slightly different formulation are the use of a different thickener and the exclusion of one of the preservatives.

[The_Snow_Queen]

do you know if all eucerin products are good to use on acne-prone skin?

As in any line, not all the Eucerin products are necessarily appropriate for acne-prone skin. The only Eucerin products I recommend for acne-prone skin are Baby Aquaphor Gentle Wash, Gentle Hydrating Cleanser, and Redness Relief Soothing Cleanser. Most of the other Eucerin products are too greasy, contain potentially pore-clogging ingredients, or have irritants.

PS I searched drugstore.com for Eucerin products and overviewed all their ingredients, so I probably didn't see them all since drugstore.com doesn't necessarily carry all the Eucerin products available.

[The_Snow_Queen]

Just check here to see which ingredients are good or bad: http://www.zerozits.com/Articles/acne_detective/article6.htm

I disagree with some ingredients that website considers good or bad. Also, I have no way of knowing where the infomation comes from.

[Rache]

Dove cleanser broke out within the first week of trying it, chances are it was coincidence. If they had been using it for a few weeks and still broke out, were they using any other new products around the same time?

I know that 3 outta the 5 broke out. And they used it for a month or more. Then again...they were using Clean and Clear astringents. The one for senstive skin *stung my face!*. And the other two..never really get acne. So thats prolly why, they didn't break out. Luckies!

But I decided not to get the product..Its useless. Besides I am sure there's something better out there that can exfoliate my skin a couple times a week. Do you have any recommendations?

Thanks luv.

[daria]

snow queen, thanks for the response. i'm currently using eucerin redness relief daily perfecting lotion w/ spf15, it seems to reduce redness and it moisterizes but do you think this might clog my pores?

[The_Snow_Queen]

snow queen, thanks for the response. i'm currently using eucerin redness relief daily perfecting lotion w/ spf15, it seems to reduce redness and it moisterizes but do you think this might clog my pores?

It uses titanium dioxide as a sunscreen ingredient, which does clog pores in some people. However, it is not purely titanium dioxide-based like some sunscreens. The product also uses certain thickeners that might contribute to clogged pores, but so do many products. If you've been using it for a few weeks and haven't noticed any worsening of your breakouts, you are probably OK.

I tried this product a while ago and found it to be greasy yet at the same time not moisturizing enough. The green blended in well, but I know some people seem to have trouble getting it to look natural.

One thing I don't like about this product's formulation is the inclusion of alcohol denat. The amount of that ingredient is not in a particularly high concentration, but it is still high enough that it might cause a problem for those with particularly sensitive skin (like the rosacea patients this line is targeting). It has a lot more alcohol than licohalcone.

Anyway, if you bought this product in hopes that it would visibly reduce your redness overtime, you'll be dissapointed. If your redness hasn't faded overtime while using gentle products, chances are a dermatologist would have to perform a laser treatment to get rid of it. Dove, Neutrogena, and Olay offer better moisturizers (day or night) with higher concentrations of ingredients that promote the appearance of healthy skin.

[The_Snow_Queen]

Dove cleanser broke out within the first week of trying it, chances are it was coincidence. If they had been using it for a few weeks and still broke out, were they using any other new products around the same time?

I know that 3 outta the 5 broke out. And they used it for a month or more. Then again...they were using Clean and Clear astringents. The one for senstive skin *stung my face!*. And the other two..never really get acne. So thats prolly why, they didn't break out. Luckies!

But I decided not to get the product..Its useless. Besides I am sure there's something better out there that can exfoliate my skin a couple times a week. Do you have any recommendations?

Thanks luv.

I noticed in your signature that you cannot use chemical exfoliants because they are too harsh. Which products did you try? Many contain alcohol and/or other irritants, like the Clean and Clear astringents supposedly designed for sensitive skin. There are only a small handful of truly gentle and pH correct salicylic acid products available on the market, though there are many more alpha hydroxy acid products.

Don't expect your cleanser to do anything other than eliminate dead skin cells, excess sebum, and debris from the skin's surface. As I have discussed previously, medicated cleansers are generally ineffective and cleanser/scrubs don't actually exfoliate within the pore like many people think. The St. Ives cleansers use walnut particles to exfoliate, which are too abrasive to the skin.

Neutrogena's At-Home MicroDermabrasion Kit is a great way to manually exfoliate your skin a few times a week and should noticeably improve your skin's overall appearance. It is probably the most effective manual exfoliant sold at the drugstore. You can use it and other srub-type treatments on non-inflammatory breakouts that involve blackheads and whiteheads, but don't use it over inflammatory breakouts (involving anything red and swollen).

[Veryverydesperate]

Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser has Sodium Lauryl Sulfate.

Should I not be using the cleanser?

Ingredients:
Water
Cetyl Alcohol
Propylene Glycol
Sodium Lauryl Sulfate
Stearyl Alcohol
Methylparaben
Propylparaben
Butylparaben

[daria]

snow queen, thanks for the response. i'm currently using eucerin redness relief daily perfecting lotion w/ spf15, it seems to reduce redness and it moisterizes but do you think this might clog my pores?

It uses titanium dioxide as a sunscreen ingredient, which does clog pores in some people. However, it is not purely titanium dioxide-based like some sunscreens. The product also uses certain thickeners that might contribute to clogged pores, but so do many products. If you've been using it for a few weeks and haven't noticed any worsening of your breakouts, you are probably OK.

I tried this product a while ago and found it to be greasy yet at the same time not moisturizing enough. The green blended in well, but I know some people seem to have trouble getting it to look natural.

One thing I don't like about this product's formulation is the inclusion of alcohol denat. The amount of that ingredient is not in a particularly high concentration, but it is still high enough that it might cause a problem for those with particularly sensitive skin (like the rosacea patients this line is targeting). It has a lot more alcohol than licohalcone.

Anyway, if you bought this product in hopes that it would visibly reduce your redness overtime, you'll be dissapointed. If your redness hasn't faded overtime while using gentle products, chances are a dermatologist would have to perform a laser treatment to get rid of it. Dove, Neutrogena, and Olay offer better moisturizers (day or night) with higher concentrations of ingredients that promote the appearance of healthy skin.

i have been using this for about 2 months now...i think i'll discontinue using this and try another moisterizer. can you recommend me one that has an spf of atleast 15? (i'm about to take accutane) thanks!

also how are these ingredients?
Acitve Ingredients: Octinoxate. Octisalate,Titanium Dioxide. Inactive Ingredients: Water, Octyl Stearate, Aloe Barbadensis Gel, Glycerin, Gylceryl Stearate, Squalane, Stearic Acid, Cetyl Alcohol, Phenoxyethanol, Tocopheryl Acetate, Fragrance, Alumina, Sorbitan Oleate, Triethanolamine, Methylparaben, Acrylates/C10-30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer, Sodium Polyacrylate, Silica, Xanthan Gum, Disodium EDTA, Butylparaben, Carbomer, Ethylbaraben, Sodium Methylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Propylparaben.

Water, Cyclopentasiloxane, Glycerin, Caprylic/CapricTriglyceride, Cetearyl Alcohol, Ammonium Acryloyldimethyltaurate/VPCopolymer, Pentylene Glycol, Stearic Acid, Cholesterol, Bisabolol, Sodium PCA, Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E Acetate), Dimethicone, Linoleic Acid, Ceramide 3, Ceramide 6 II, Ceramide 1, Phytosphingosine, Isohexadecane, Saccharide Isomerate, Coriandrum Sativum (Coriander) Seed Oil, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Avena Sativa (Oat) Kernel Extract, Stearyl Glycyrrhetinate,Linoleamidopropyl BG-Dimonium Chloride Phosphate, Sodium Lactate, Sodium Citrate, Citric Acid, PEG-4 Laurate, Disodium EDTA, DMDM Hydantoin, Biosaccharide Gum-1, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Titanium Dioxide (CI 77891).

sorry for requesting a lot...thanks

[Rache]

I noticed in your signature that you cannot use chemical exfoliants because they are too harsh. Which products did you try? Many contain alcohol and/or other irritants, like the Clean and Clear astringents supposedly designed for sensitive skin. There are only a small handful of truly gentle and pH correct salicylic acid products available on the market, though there are many more alpha hydroxy acid products.

Don't expect your cleanser to do anything other than eliminate dead skin cells, excess sebum, and debris from the skin's surface. As I have discussed previously, medicated cleansers are generally ineffective and cleanser/scrubs don't actually exfoliate within the pore like many people think. The St. Ives cleansers use walnut particles to exfoliate, which are too abrasive to the skin.

Neutrogena's At-Home MicroDermabrasion Kit is a great way to manually exfoliate your skin a few times a week and should noticeably improve your skin's overall appearance. It is probably the most effective manual exfoliant sold at the drugstore. You can use it and other srub-type treatments on non-inflammatory breakouts that involve blackheads and whiteheads, but don't use it over inflammatory breakouts (involving anything red and swollen).

I honestly can't recall the name of it..My derm prescribed it. It was a serum that I would put on after cleansing at nightime. immediatley I felt it burn my face!(And the cleanser before..was a gentle one, so it wasn't that..)..Yeah the Clean and Clear astringents is crap..The Clarifying toner they had was good for my skin though, Black Head Astrigent. But thats when I was younger(15)..and 5 yrs apparently makes a diffrence. My skin is senstive, more so dry on average..I have been having no luck with a good cleanser for break outs, but yet keep my skin non-irritated, dry.. I was on the search for the senstive skin Nivea Men cleanser...but I couldn't find it anywhere..So..I am lost, really lost..And yeah..I haven't been using St. Ives for a while now..I know its expensive, but I think I'll consider that Neutrogena At-Home MicroDermabrasion kit. I'll use it twice a week, that should be sufficent enough for me.

But yeah..do you have another suggestion for senstive yet combination/break out skin??
Something that doesn't contain Sodium Lauryl Sulfate...I am allergic to it.

Sorry I keep bugging you with my questions..
But I really appericate your advice

Thanks<3

[sandia]

I've been reading this thread for quite a while, and to be honest, it made me try to find my own regimen... I've been dealing with acne for years, I've tried a couple of things, but just gave up on trying to find a way to control it... lol, so I have never been cleared up. anyways, this thread gave me some ideas to try.

This is my problem, I am trying to find a facial moisturizer with SPF 15 which doesn't feel oily. I am quite confused with all the moisturizers with SPF and sunblocks. Is there a major difference between the both? I mean, don't sunblocks moisturize as well?

I've found sunblocks to be too creamy for my taste. So which moisturizer with SPF 15 (or more?) would anyone recommend that has any of titanium dioxide, zinc oxide, or avobenzone? The cheaper the better... lol. Well, at least a good one that doesn't feel greasy.

[HeatherD]

Man, I really need to get to the library and get Paula Begoun's cosmetics book! I've already read her hair products book. But in the meantime, if I could be so bold... These are the products I'm using, I'm sure they've got several things wrong with them, judging by your list...

http://www.olay.com/boutique/complete/prod...6?tab=ingrelist For day moisturizing

http://www.pgbeautyscience.com/en_UK/pdf/O...id_Oil_Free.pdf Till recently for night moisturizing

Just recently switched to the oil-free aloe 5% AHA Kiss My Face moisturizer, but no list of ingredients on the web page... It's a bunch of "natural stuff" around some chemicals, as far as I can see. I'll have to check it against your irritant list.

http://www.olay.com/products/ge1015?tab=ingrelist This very rarely at night if I'm getting really dry and flaky. (it's a cream, oh nooo!)

So go ahead and tell me all of those are wrong, cause I get the strong feeling they are, and desperately so

[HeatherD]

This is interesting, it seems to rate a bunch of products on harmful ingredients and such. http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-b...nds&alpha=O

[The_Snow_Queen]

Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser has Sodium Lauryl Sulfate.

Should I not be using the cleanser?

Ingredients:
Water
Cetyl Alcohol
Propylene Glycol
Sodium Lauryl Sulfate
Stearyl Alcohol
Methylparaben
Propylparaben
Butylparaben

Paula Begoun (who is my skin care idol) says that the Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser is OK to use; I'm guessing because the amount of sodium lauryl sulfate used is not particularly significant.