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Posted 14 June 2006 - 02:03 AM

http://www.rawpower.com.au/classaustralia.html

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Confessions of a Raw Food Addict Down Under

Hi, my name is Anand and I live a passionate raw food life style. Since going
100% raw I feel like I am growing younger even though my body is now 44.
Many aches and pains I experienced have just vanished and ailments such as
eczema, poor digestion and bad breathe have simply disappeared. I have
been told I have had hepatitus C for 20 years, though I have absolutely no
symptoms and my liver function tests have come back normal for the past
year and half. My energy levels are through the roof and I have dropped 2
hours sleep a night so I get an extra month or more of living every year!
Apart from the physical benefits, I am happier and more at ease with my
self and this trend is continuing to grow. Another thing is I frequently
get told how well I look: that I am glowing and clear “and must be doing
something right:� The radiance which comes from eating living foods is
unmistakeable.

Being totally turned on to living foods and sharing the amazing benefits
on a fairly constant basis through our classes and retreats I am
frequently asked questions like “what do you actually eat during the
course of a day?� or “how do you get your protein?� or “how do you find the
time to create amazing food like this?�

To tell you the truth I don’t really follow a formula and it is really an
ongoing, never-ending experiment, which is why it is so much fun. Also,
what I eat won’t necessarily suit the next person though from my
experience I have discovered that eating a high percentage of organic raw
foods and juices (100% in my case) will cause dramatic change (for the
positive) for nearly anyone who tries it. Not only am I healthier, free of
disease and more alive than ever before, I am happier and more in tune with my
nature (both inner and outer). The benefits just go on and on and are too many to list here
– I am eternally grateful to have discovered an alternative to my
conditioned way of eating and thinking which really makes a difference.


So, how does my day look?

Lately my day begins at 6am. I do an active meditation like Osho’s Dynamic
from 6.30 to 7.30am - We then prepare a large green juice with lots of
celery, lettuce, cucumber and then adding other veges like parsley, red
peppers, kale or any thing else green and leafy and in season. We
sometimes also add some fresh wheatgrass into the mix. We then blend 1
tablespoon of spirulina, 4 capsules of AFA blue green algae from lake Klamath, ½ a lid of
TJ Clarke’s colloidal minerals and a heaped teaspoon of In-liven probiotic
powder in a little water and then add it to the juice. It’s such an
awesome hit of energy – my cells literally dance in gratitude after I
drink my first big glass and I love the way it froths up like a bright
green cappuccino.

I usually then drink another 500ml of green juice (without the spirulina
and other goodies) during the morning and I find I have no urge to eat
until around 12 noon when I may have a piece of fruit like an apple, mango
or peach. It seems to really work for me at the moment to give my
digestive tract a long rest from solid food. If I have been doing a lot of
computer work (as I often do) I then do around 25 minutes of Chi Gung
(deep breathing with coordinated movements) at 1pm which totally chills
me out and prepares me for lunch.

Lunch varies quite a bit – the constant is salad. My farourite of late is
to add chilli peppers and raisins to a mix of leafy greens (rocket, cos
lettuce plus cucumber, red peppers etc) and add a simple dressing made
from virgin coconut oil and lemon juice. To add a bit of flavour and
saltiness I sprinkle my meal with dulse flakes and kelp powder (both
seaweeds with incredibly high levels of minerals) and a few pepita’s
(pumpkin seeds) Accompanying the salad I may have some flax seed crackers,
living pizza or other dehydrator delights or even some raw hummus or
brazil nut butter. The choices are too numerous to list here.

Later in the afternoon I usually have a superfood snack with bee pollen,
raw cacao (chocolate), Peruvian maca powder, pepitas, Brazil nuts and some
fruit like a banana or mango – I mix it all together with coconut oil –
it’s an amazing energy boost and very tasty as well.

In summer, I usually go surfing for a couple of hours after work with one
of my best friends Prem . Prem who is 18 is also raw and I have no trouble
keeping up with him out in the waves. Surfing is such a blast!! I only really
discovered it around 10 months ago and despite my raw diet I have gained 3
kilograms and bulked out nicely from the workout in the water.

We usually get back from surfing around 8pm and have a light meal –
similar to lunch and maybe more green juice if there is any left in the
fridge. Later on I may indulge in a raw desert or cake. I then often meet
with my friends and business partners, Prem & Anshu to dream and plan or
sit down and write as I am now. I also love to lose myself in dance and
often DJ at local dance events until the early hours. I rarely get to bed
before midnight. Life is to much fun to sleep!

http://www.rawpower.com.au/confessions.html



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Posted 14 June 2006 - 02:10 AM

dam, im starting to fall in love with sushi too.... no way raw food can be bad for you..

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 02:12 AM

Should We Eat Living Foods or Dead Foods?

by T.C. Fry

Why should this question arise?

Because the peoples of America and the world suffer grievously from widespread disease. Recent research has revealed that the quality of nutrients we put into out bodies determines the quality of our lives. We are all aware that engines perform well or poorly, depending upon the quality of the fuel used. Few of us realize that food quality directly determines our physical and mental performance abilities.

I frequently receive phone calls and letters that go like this: Is it okay to eat corn? Potatoes? Oats? Bread? Prepared cereals? Beans? Tofu? And many other substances which must be cooked in order to be eaten.

When I facetiously say that it's not okay by me, I get the inevitable "why?" Then I tell them we are all our brothers' keepers and if you lose your health, it's an imposition upon me and millions of other people whose lives your condition directly and indirectly affects.

What questioners really meant was why aren't these foods okay? I must then tell them of the many evils and curses that result from the eating of foods that have been heat deranged I tell them: "If you can't relish It in the fresh raw state, you shouldn't be eating It at all." To save myself a lot of letters and communications, I will, in this article, spell out many of the salient reasons why "dead" foods should never enter the human mouth.

The First thing I do with writers and callers is present the benefits of the living food enormous diet. For instance I might say:

Live food eaters feel better and are often in a state of euphoria.

Live food eaters have more energy and stamina.

Then I get the inevitable "why" which is a way of saying "prove it."

I respond: "Just bear with me." I proceed to heighten their curiosity with further statements like:

Those who subsist on living foods are better rested and better slept in less time.

Those who eat most living foods are more alert, think clearer, sharper and more logically.

Those who undertake the eating of live foods, especially in conjunction with an exercise regime, experience drastic weight loss. This is great for those people who need to lose weight.

Going on a living food diet sets of body cleansing which, at times, can be very intense. Body detoxification may entail some unpleasant symptoms.

Those who rely upon living foods become more active and precise in their motions and actions as well as their thoughts. Hence they perform much better and with more competence.

Living food eaters are less subject to stresses and nervous tensions than conventional eaters. Moreover, if an exercise regime of 15 to 30 minutes a day is followed, they are even less subject to stress.

Best of all, live food eaters become virtually sickness-free!

Of course a great deal of skepticism is often expressed- -after all, they need dispensation as well as justification for their love affairs with pizza, bread, potatoes and so on.

They may even tell me that this is all just anecdotal, that is, just like old wives tales.

I then tell them: "Why not try it yourself and experience the wonderful results. Then you can tell your own experiences anecdotally just as you are now anecdotally expressing your skepticism." Then I proceed to start putting the clinchers on my case as follows:

In nature all animals eat living foods as yielded up by nature. Only humans cook their foods and only humans suffer widespread sicknesses and ailments.

Only humans regularly and consistently suffer premature death. Natural death in humans is so rare that it isn't even listed as a cause of death in our almanacs or statistics.

Then the question often arises: "What's so terrible about cooking foods? Everybody does it."

To which I respond: "Just about everybody has cavities, poor eyesight that requires glasses, colds and other sicknesses, don't they?" Then I answer further with some statements and citations that are obviously true:

Cooking is a process of food destruction from the moment heat is applied to the foodstuff. Long before dry ashes result, food values are totally destroyed. If you put your hand for just a moment into boiling water, or on a hot stove, that should forever persuade you just how destructive temperatures for perhaps half an hour or more are! What was living substance becomes totally dead very rapidly with exposure to heat!

Proteins begin coagulating and delaminating, as may be plainly seen in the case of eggs and cheese when their temperature reaches only 118 degrees. At temperatures commonly applied in cooking, they are completely devoid of nutritive values. Worse yet...

Cooked proteins are readily putrefied by bacteria in the digestive tract and give rise to some very potent poisons such as ptomaine's, leukomaines, mercaptans, indoles, skatoles, ammonias, hydrogen sulfide, putrescine, cadaverine and yet more. These are absorbed into the portal blood and cause myriad's of disease conditions.

Cooking renders foods toxic! The toxicity of the deranged debris of cooking is confirmed by the doubling and tripling of the white blood cells after the eating of a cooked food meal. The white blood cells are a first line of defense and are, collectively, popularly called "the immune system."

As confirmed by hundred of researches cited in the prestigious National Academy of Science's National Research Council's book, "Diet, Nutrition and Cancer," all cooking quickly generates mutagens and carcinogens in foods. When you eat cooked carbohydrates, proteins and fats you are eating numerous mutagenic (carcinogenic) products caused by cooking.

Vitamins are rather quickly destroyed by cooking.

Minerals quickly lose their organic context and are returned to their native state as they occur in soil, sea water, rocks, metals and so on. In such a state they are unusable and the body often shunts them aside where they may combine with saturated fats and cholesterol in the circulatory system, thus clogging it up with their cement-like plaque. Over 90% of Americans have plaque in their arteries! Worse yet, inorganic minerals are highly toxic. As an example we know iodine to be an essential nutrient. Yet, in its inorganic state, it bears the skull and crossbones. Take iron as an example. Essential as it is, if taken in the inorganic state it causes hepatitis and hemochromatosis.

Heated fats are especially damaging because they are altered to form acroleins, free radicals, other mutagens and carcinogens as confirmed in the aforementioned publication, "Diet, Nutrition and Cancer. "

Cooked foods not only take longer to digest but often prove to be indigestible and unassailable as in the case of heated proteins. Cooked foods quickly ferment and putrefy in the intestinal tract while living foods are almost totally absorbed before they're oxidized enough for yeast and bacterial ferments and putrefaction.

This evidenced by the fact that the average conventional eater has about two pounds of intestinal bacteria whereas living food eaters have only a few ounces. About 20% of the feces of cooked food eaters is dead bacteria whereas living food eaters give off only a fraction as much dead bacteria.

If you cook a potato and put it on the counter alongside a raw one, the raw potato will last for weeks and even sprout whereas the cooked potato will ferment in one or two days. This gives you some idea about what happens to cooked foods in the intestinal tract where fermentation and putrefaction that may take place in a day or two in the open occurs in an hour or two in the intestinal tract. Again, indigestion is an indication that fermentation and/or putrefaction is talking place.

When a registered dietitian took Harvey Diamond to task and in effect called him an ignoramus and liar he discombobulated and made her statements obviously wrong with a single question: "Lady, did you ever vomit?"

Thus you can see that dead foods make dull, diseased and sooner dead people.

You don't have to take my word for It! Get yourself some guinea pigs, white mice or white rats. What humans take years to exhibit, they manifest within weeks. Feed a control group their regular diet in a raw condition. Feed the other control group the same foods but cooked!

Better yet, you can go on a raw food or living foods diet and see the wonderful results enumerated herein for yourself! Of course you may have to go through discomforts when the body, with better foods, begins purifying itself.

I think this rather nicely sums up the most salient reasons why you should shun cooked foods--why you should, if you treasure health and happiness, eat only living foods!

http://www.rawfoods.com/articles/livingfoods.html


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Posted 14 June 2006 - 04:15 AM

For those living in Melbourne you can get organic food home delivered here

http://www.thegreenline.com.au/
http://www.choice.com.au/viewArticle.aspx?...goes+mainstream
http://www.nutritionaustralia.org/Food_Fac...c_Foods_faq.asp

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 02:02 PM

I'm getting a lot of gas when I drink olive oil with fruit/salad. Is it going to go away soon?

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 02:30 PM

I think the reason raw foods diets are healing is because they're so high in fruits and vegetables. I'm having good results eating a diet high in fruits and vegetables now with exactly the same benefits of what raw foodists purport their diet gives, yet I don't really worry whether so and so food has been heated above 118F, or whether I'm losing a fractional amount of nutrients when I steam my broccoli, etc.

Is tea banned from raw food diets? You have to heat it up to about 150F... See, that'd be kind of dumb if it was, because the benefits of green / white tea are very documented.

Like someone else said, certain foods like tomatoes are enhanced by cooking.

Cultures noted for their longevity like the Hunzas eat cooked animal proteins (weekly instead of daily like many Americans).

The enzymes of raw foods are not relevent except in the form of digestive enzymes like papain and bromelain, which can help digestion as well as being anti inflammatory. But that is just to say make sure you eat raw pineapples and raw papayas.. This isn't to say that there are undiscovered phytochemicals that we won't hear about for 10-20 years that may be destroyed in cooking, though. But the whole enzyme theory had one scientist backing it in the 40's and nobody after, I believe. It's just not relevent today...

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 04:23 PM

QUOTE(Femina_Mala_Est @ Jun 14 2006, 12:10 AM)

Yep. Aint it amazing how every schmuck with little to no education in evolutionary biology is able to speak with authority on evolution? I don't understand why these people don't speak out about general relativity, statistical mechanics, self-catalyzing chaotic systems, non-linear dynamics, or other mere "theories" that are even more counterintuitive than evolution and that they are equally well-equipped to intelligently comment on.


I'm trying to understand the blatant disrespect and insults that are thrown around on this board for some of the most benign subjects -- especially one that didn't have anything to do with the original subject in the first place. So I'm one of those "schmucks with little to no education" for saying that I think there is more scientific evidence for evolution that alien creation of the human race? LOL. I'm hardly a "fanatic evolutionist" who thinks that is the only plausibe explanation. Hey, I liked the Xfiles just as much as any other scifi geek. So I guess your saying that 'general relativity, statistical mechanics, self-catalyzing chaotic systems, non-linear dynamics, or other mere "theories"' are the only explanation for the human race? Cool. Please explain in full detail so this schmuck can understand. I have an open mind. Go for it. But do me a favor and refrain from the direct and indiret insults -- it's counterproductive. Also, realizing that this is a discussion board where there will be more than one opinion on any given subject, accept that there may not be any all right or all wrong OPINIONS.

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 07:16 PM

oh man, all I've been doing today is eating and shopping for food. Spending huge amounts of money on fruit. I'll keep going for a while, but it looks like I'm breaking out from all the bananas I'm eating, despite the olive oil.

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 07:24 PM

QUOTE(T∑PLØ @ Jun 14 2006, 05:16 PM)

oh man, all I've been doing today is eating and shopping for food. Spending huge amounts of money on fruit. I'll keep going for a while, but it looks like I'm breaking out from all the bananas I'm eating, despite the olive oil.


Bananas are high GI not very good for acne and I think they are mainly carbs. Try mixed fruits and very small portion of bananas.

For you gas problem try abdominal crunch (sit -ups) exercises. Do at least 50 -100


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Posted 14 June 2006 - 07:29 PM

but Wai says I can eat ANY fruit I want, and any amount of it, as long as I eat it with a lot of olive oil. So theoretically, it shouldn't matter that I eat babanas.

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 07:33 PM

I got some dried blueberries (organic) at Trader Joe's (a grocery store that carries a lot of natural and organic foods) and they are delicious!!
Blueberries are loaded with antioxidents, too.
I noticed they had a lot of different dried fruits to try and, after eating these delicious blueberries, I think I'll give them a go. Tasty and healthy is a great combination, in my book.
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(Of course, I have no doubt someone will come here and tell me that drying blueberries takes away their nutritional value, don't qualify as raw, and that I'm stupid for thinking they are high in antioxidents -- for which I'll find research to support my claims, that will either be A) ignored outright, or B) refuted and told that I'm uneducated.)

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 07:34 PM

QUOTE(T∑PLØ @ Jun 14 2006, 05:29 PM)

but Wai says I can eat ANY fruit I want, and any amount of it, as long as I eat it with a lot of olive oil. So theoretically, it shouldn't matter that I eat babanas.


No Wai is not God.

Use your common sense and do what works for you.

I speak the truth my friend.

Eat balanced diets.

Most of us get gas and abdominal crunch releases it.

Yes you fart but at least it is not trapped within your stomach.



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Posted 14 June 2006 - 07:39 PM

the fruits I've been eating are: strawberries, blueberries, grapes, bananas.

I feel damn hungry and keep eating, but my stomach is poofy like those kids in Africa.

QUOTE(MelbourneBloke @ Jun 14 2006, 07:34 PM)

No Wai is not God.

Use your common sense and do what works for you.


what works for me is small amounts of "bad" food throughout the day, rather than large amounts of "good" food. When I was in France, I ate ham and cheese sandwiches a few times per day, and my skin was good.

But now I'm trying to see if Wai's diet works, so I gotta follow her directions.

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 07:40 PM

QUOTE(T∑PLØ @ Jun 14 2006, 06:39 PM)

the fruits I've been eating are: strawberries, blueberries, grapes, bananas.

I feel damn hungry and keep eating, but my stomach is poofy like those kids in Africa.



Did I miss something? Are you severely malnourished or was the kids in Africa comment a joke?

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 07:43 PM

oh, I know what I'll do: I'll get nuts in the shell, and I'll crack them by hand. I think that's legal in Wai's eyes.

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QUOTE(T∑PLØ @ Jun 14 2006, 06:39 PM)

the fruits I've been eating are: strawberries, blueberries, grapes, bananas.

I feel damn hungry and keep eating, but my stomach is poofy like those kids in Africa.



Did I miss something? Are you severely malnourished or was the kids in Africa comment a joke?


I've been eating so much fiber that my stomach got poofy as hell, and I feel like I'm about to explode, so I'm gonna lay down for a while to digest all this damn fruit.

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 07:53 PM

Ah. I know that you're trying to go all natural but perhaps a Gas-X or a Beano would help? I hate the bloating from digestion issues -- it's painful. Drinking a lot of water can help, too.

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 08:13 PM

I think one of the things that causes my acne is when there's too much stuff inside my stomach and the toxins build up. Maybe I'll start drinking fruit juice instead, and combining it with olive oil.

I don't have time to make my own juice. Is Naked brand juice good enough?

oh damn.. I guess not.. Naked pasturizes their juice with UV or something...

so... I need a juicer then huh? how about a cheese cloth or something?

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 08:31 PM

http://www.livingright.com/

Good site for juicers.

http://wheatgrassjuicers.livingright.com/i...nual-mj445.html

I bought this one. It's manual but it's a lot cheaper then the other models, built like a tank and really easy to clean.

My uncle let me burrow his fancy 300 dollar one before I got that one, it made juice effortlessly but cleaning the god damn thing was a 20 minute chore. Biggest pain in the ass ever...

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 08:36 PM

is it just for wheat grass?

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 08:38 PM

QUOTE(T∑PLØ @ Jun 14 2006, 05:39 PM)

the fruits I've been eating are: strawberries, blueberries, grapes, bananas.

I feel damn hungry and keep eating, but my stomach is poofy like those kids in Africa.

QUOTE(MelbourneBloke @ Jun 14 2006, 07:34 PM)

No Wai is not God.

Use your common sense and do what works for you.


what works for me is small amounts of "bad" food throughout the day, rather than large amounts of "good" food. When I was in France, I ate ham and cheese sandwiches a few times per day, and my skin was good.

But now I'm trying to see if Wai's diet works, so I gotta follow her directions.


My advise is to follow your body's instructions.

Your body will tell you when things are not right.

Also a little hints from Wai, GI type diets, Gluten, soy and common allergen elimination diets may help you.

I drink 100% fruit juice with every meal like sipping a glass of water. Apple and blackcurrant juice, orange juice, guava juice, orange/mango juice, tropical juice, cherry juice etc.

My meal is normally basmati rice with fish or lean meat and vegies like brocolli.




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