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(Last edited by Rossignol, 6th February 2006 - updating content and editing information)
(Last edited by Rossignol, 5th August 2004 - pinned thread and added information.)
(Last edited by Rossignol, 8th August 2004 - added links for top products.)
(Last edited by Rossignol, 12th November 2004 - moved thread to red marks forum - I feel it is more appropriate here, as the products are typically more effective on red marks than actual scars)
This Thread details the (mainly topical) products that members of the board have found most effective in helping to reduce their red marks and improve overall skin condition. The list is not exhaustive, but most of the people posting have tried a huge amount of products, therefore these have been tried and tested!!! To view people's actual product ratings, please look at the product rating section of acne.org - here is the link: http://www.acne.org/rate.phpTo sum up, here are brief summaries of the top 5 products mentioned:
1.Puredeming Intense gel - a serum that is applied daily for approx. 1 hour, contains high quality natural ingredients that will improve skin condition and help with healing, in particular alpha lipoic acid and DMAE which have been cited as helping to reduce red marks and very shallow scarring. Available here:
Puredeming Here is a thread containing info about the intense gel:
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/forums.html...topic=159372. Lactic acid peels - a relatively gentle form of AHA acid peel, which helps remove dead skin cells, thereby improving skin tone. They may, over time, help reduce very shallow scarring, and can be extremely effective on diminishing red marks. Available here
Puredeming, and, for stronger versions, here:
Logan wood skincareHere is a thread containing useful info:
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/forums.html...3. Copper peptides products - help with skin healing and promote collagen production. Especially useful when combined with a procedure such as skin needling or microdermabrasion. There are several different varieties that vary in intensity, although the more intense versions can be more likely to cause acne breakouts. Available here:
Skin BiologyHere is a thread containing more info:
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/forums.html...copper+peptides4= Emu oil - a natural oil extracted from the fat glands of emus that have been killed for their meat. It is, therefore a by product - emus are not killed to produce the oil. It contains high amounts of essential fatty acids and vitamin E and is therefore beneficial for skin healing. It is good as an overall moisturiser as it is very non-comedogenic. Has reduced redness in scars for some people. Also, it is a carrier oil and may increase efficiacy of other products such as BP and manuka oil when applied after these. - Available here:
EbayHere is a thread:
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/forums.html...topic=191814= Manuka Honey products - again, helps with skin healing and is very antibacterial and antifungal, therefore guarding against future breakouts. Manuka OIL is even more potent. Manuka honey and oil are both available in a variety of products but the one most highly recommended is Living nature's Manuka oil and honey gel. Available here:
Living Nature and here:
Comvita5= Smoothbeam - not technically a 'product', it is a form of non-ablative laser which many members have undergone with moderate to excellent success. There is more information in the FAQ.
5= jojoba oil - like emu oil, a non-comedogenic natural moisturiser derived from the liquid wax of the jojoba nut. Contains high amounts of vitamin E, thereby beneficial for skin healing. It may help with healing red marks, but has very little effect on scarring, however.
5= C+C blackhead clearing scrub - helps exfoliate skin thereby improving skin texture and red marks. May, over time, help reduce some very shallow scarring.
5= TCA complex products - a more intense form of acid peel, TCA peels come with a significant downtime, unlike lactic acid or glycolic acid peels. However, they can be much more effective on red marks and shallow scarring. For deeper scarring, the CROSS method of applying 100% TCA can be effective. However, it is recommended that this is performed by a doctor. More information is contained in the FAQ.
Anyone else, feel free to add your favourite products to the thread!
It is unlikely that these products will completely clear your scarring, but they may help improve your skin condition and your overall complexion, helping with skin healing, reduction of inflammation and minimization of light scarring./ EDIT
As the year draws to a close i thought we could type down what products we have found this year and rate the best ones.
Here's my small list:
1. PureDeming Intense Gel
2. Bio Oil. Here is some more info about this product:
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/forums.html...topic=191083. PEL Super Rich Moisturizer
4. Cetaphil cleansing wash
5. Calendulis Plus cream
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Post Inflammatory Hyperpigmentation(aka red marks, brown marks, purplish marks, macules, psuedo scars, fake scars, inflammatory pigmentation)
Disclaimer: The information below is provided as a courtesy to address general questions. As we are not medical professionals, we cannot be held responsible for the accuracy of this information. By reading this information, you agree not to hold us liable for any damages that may result in your use of this information. This information should not replace information that your Doctor, Dermatologist or Plastic Surgeon provides you. Q: Are red/brown/purple marks scars?No. Red marks left on the site of old acne lesions are usually temporary
(see picture below). Red marks are simply a normal remnant of the skin’s inflammatory process - Post Inflammatory Hyperpigmentation (PIH). Pigmented areas will fade unassisted, though they can take up to 2 years to disappear.
A quote from
SkincarePhysicians.comQUOTE
Before talking about scars, a word about spots that may look like scars but are not scars in the sense that a permanent change has occurred. Even though they are not true scars and disappear in time, they are visible and can cause embarrassment.
Macules or "pseudo-scars" are flat, red or reddish spots that are the final stage of most inflamed acne lesions. After an inflamed acne lesion flattens, a macule may remain to "mark the spot" for up to 6 months. When the macule eventually disappears, no trace of it will remain—unlike a scar.
Post-inflammatory pigmentation is discoloration of the skin at the site of a healed or healing inflamed acne lesion. It occurs more frequently in darker-skinned people, but occasionally is seen in people with white skin. Early treatment by a dermatologist may minimize the development of post-inflammatory pigmentation. Some post-inflammatory pigmentation may persist for up to 18 months, especially with excessive sun exposure. Chemical peeling may hasten the disappearance of post-inflammatory pigmentation.
(Please note - If treating acne scarring is of concern please also read FAQ on Scar Treatments)Q: What causes PIH?Inflammatory Acne lesions. Generally the deeper the original acne lesion or more prolonged the infection, the darker the resulting PIH. The darker the PIH the longer it will take to fade.
Q: What can I do to prevent PIH?Manage and prevent acne from forming. Do not touch or pick acne lesions as this can worsen infection and inflammation.
Q: What can I do to hasten the fading of PIH?With all topical and laser treatments for PIH there is a some risk of causing new outbreaks, new pigmentation problems and possibly even new scarring. Risk of these occurences will probably grow with increasing strength or invasiveness of topical or laser procedures. Some treatments are NOT suitable for people with active acne, sensitive skin or darker skin tones. You should investigate and weigh possible side effects against possible benefits. And discuss with your derm or doctor. There is no single treatment that works for everyone. The effectiveness of each treatments varies and treatments may have to be used in conjunction with each other.
If you are on Accutane you should not be using any topicals treatments except under the supervivion of your dermatologist.
Firstly - avoid sun exposure. Ultra Violet light can cause hyper-pigmented areas to darken further and thus prolong them. Use non-comedogenic facial moisturisers or facial sunscreens which contain a high SPF of at least 15+.
Topical Treatments for PIHTypically treatments for PIH bleach pigment OR block pigment formation OR accelerate the rate of exfoliation OR a combination.
Bleachs pigment OR block pigment formationHydroquinone - works by inhibiting the enzyme (tyrosinase) which causes tanning/pigmentation
Kojic Acid – i.e. Vita K for Blotchy skin
Topical Retinoids –
Tretinoin i.e: Retin A, Renova (It also stimulates faster cell proliferation and has been clinically proven to be an effective acne treatment)
Azeliac Acid (It also stimulates faster cell proliferation and has been clinically proven to be an effective acne treatment)
Accelerate the rate of exfoliation.The Tape Method of ExfoliationThe Vinegar Method of ExfoliationAlpha Hydroxy Acid (i.e. Lactic Acid, Malic Acid, Fruit Enzyme etc.)
TCA (Trichloroacetic acid)
Beta Hydroxy AcidMandelic Acid
Many new generation topical treatments combine several agents from the list above in a single topical preparation i.e. TriLuma, Paula's Choice Clearly Remarkable Skin Lightening.
A topical approach usually prescribed by dermatologists is a Retinoid (i.e. Retin-A) & Hydroquinone.
If you want to research other peoples opinions or recommendations about topical PIH treatments and suppliers you could try the following links
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/Recommended-Products-R-t14887.htmlhttp://www.acne.org/rate.phphttp://www.makeupalley.com (registration required.)
Non-topical Treatments for PIHSome non ablative lasers are being marketed specifically for treating pigmentation problems. These treatments may be unsuitable for people who suffer from active acne. Be aware that laser treatment is generally expensive and carries a risk of causing new acne, PIH and scarring. We recommed that you research options throughly and discuss with your Doctor or Dermatologist.
Here are examples and links to information about them:
· N-Lite:
http://www.wrinklereduction.com thread on acne.org:
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/forums.html...=9443· CoolTouch II:
http://www.cooltouch.com/products.html· IPL:
http://www.intensepulselight.com/equipment.htmlV Beam Pulse Dyed Dye Laser
http://www.candelalaser.com/vbeam/vb_home.aspQ: How long does it take to see results from treatment?Results and times will vary widely from one person to the next and from one treatment type to the next. As a very general guide for topical PIH treatments ....
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The treatment of PIH tends to be a difficult and prolonged process that often takes 6-12 months to achieve the desired results of depigmentation. Daily use of a broad-spectrum sunscreen (sun protection factor [SPF] 15 or greater) is an essential part of any therapeutic regimen.
From: Post Inflammatory Hyperpigmentation
http://www.emedicine.com/derm/topic876.htmIn the case of peels (i.e: lactic acid) visible improvement may occur within 4-6 applications (spaced at least a week apart).
Q: Who should be cautious about treating PIH?PIH and active acne?If you are on Accutane you should not be using any topicals treatments except under the supervision of your dermatologist.Preventing the formation of inflammatory acne will prevent the formation of PIH. Some topical treatments have attributes which mean they can help active acne AND PIH...particularly topical retinoids, Azelaic Acid, BHA (aka salicylic acid), and some ahas. There are some potential negative interactions between PIH treatments and other conventional Acne medications (e.g. Retinoids and Benzoyl Peroxide, Hydroquinone and Benzoyl Peroxide) Research otc topicals thoroughly and discuss your use/planned use of all prescription and otc topicals with your dermatologist or doctor. Generally invasive peels or procudures are NOT appropriate for people who still have active acne.
PIH and darker skin colours?People with darker skin tones have a greater prediposition to experience PIH. They are also at a greater risk of reacting adversely to agressive treatments with further pigmentation problems. Treatments typically sited by users and dermatologists as being well tolerated are Mandelic Acid, Lactic Acid, Hydroquinone, combination topicals like TriLuma.
PIH and sensitive skin?Some topicals for PIH can be irritating for people with sensitive skin typically those sited by users as causing irritation are Topical Retinoids, Glycolic acid, TCA.
Some topicals for PIH typically sited by users as less irritating are Lactic Acid, Salicylic Acid.
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Before posting a new thread, please go to the top of this page try doing a Board Search it is very possible information you want is already here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Useful LinksPost Inflammatory Hyperpigmentation
http://www.emedicine.com/derm/topic876.htm
Acne Scarring - (Overview which explains the differences of PIH and Acne scars)
http://www.skincarephysicians.com/acnenet/scarring.html
Treating PIH in darker skin tones
http://www.dermatologytimes.com/dermatolog...l.jsp?id=124881
http://www.freep.com/news/health/mcare5_20041005.htm
http://www.cosmeticsurgery-news.com/article2009.html
Understanding Exfoliants
http://www.cosmeticscop.com/learn/pf.asp?ID=27
Skin Lightening
http://www.emedicine.com/derm/topic528.htm
http://www.cosmeticscop.com/learn/pf.asp?ID=25
Lasers
http://www.emedicine.com/derm/topic517.htm
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Here are 20 reasons to add turmeric to your diet:
1. It is a natural antiseptic and antibacterial agent, useful in disinfecting cuts and burns.
2. When combined with cauliflower, it has shown to prevent prostate cancer and stop the growth of existing prostate cancer.
3. Prevented breast cancer from spreading to the lungs in mice.
4. May prevent melanoma and cause existing melanoma cells to commit suicide.
5. Reduces the risk of childhood leukemia.
6. Is a natural liver detoxifier.
7. May prevent and slow the progression of Alzheimer's disease by removing amyloyd plaque buildup in the brain.
8. May prevent metastases from occurring in many different forms of cancer.
9. It is a potent natural anti-inflammatory that works as well as many anti-inflammatory drugs but without the side effects.
10. Has shown promise in slowing the progression of multiple sclerosis in mice.
11. Is a natural painkiller and cox-2 inhibitor.
12. May aid in fat metabolism and help in weight management.
13. Has long been used in Chinese medicine as a treatment for depression.
14. Because of its anti-inflammatory properties, it is a natural treatment for arthritis and rheumatoid arthritis.
15. Boosts the effects of chemo drug paclitaxel and reduces its side effects.
16. Promising studies are underway on the effects of turmeric on pancreatic cancer.
17. Studies are ongoing in the positive effects of turmeric on multiple myeloma.
18. Has been shown to stop the growth of new blood vessels in tumors.
19. Speeds up wound healing and assists in remodeling of damaged skin.
20. May help in the treatment of psoriasis and other inflammatory skin conditions.
I have been going to alot pain about acne then scar from the past, I have spend all kind stuff try get rid of acne and scar chemica peel,skin lighting,skin bleaching,acne cream u name it. It cost me alot money not only it not helping but it geting worse Post Inflammatory Hyperpigmentation and more acne. Here why chemical peel it not safe and it not going work if u leave it to long it will burn your skin and get more Hyperpigmentation tca,lactic,glycolic,jessen, U have to stay in door for a month and wear sunscreen and u have to repeat treatment to see the result. Skin bleaching u have to use it 3 month to see result but without 1 day sunscreen that 3 month it useless. Acne cream makeing your acne worse because it will dry your skin out more it got bad chemical in it and it will cost u more acne. Stop going to the sun and get a tan that make your red mark even more Hyperpigmentation pop of waiting until it heal. Do not try peel at home Why because u don't know how your skin feel if even leave for extra minute it burn u will get more Hyperpigmentation and make it more worse.
Here a cure for all acne people suffer from red mark,scar,Hyperpigmentation.
Turmeric powder or the root from it. It only cost u a few dollar to buy at a asian market With a few dollar will last u a month and help u fade all kind acne,scar,red mark,Hyperpigmentation on your face in a month u will see life agian, and u don't have to waste thousand dollar or go to the pain of that nasty peel,skin bleaching or use harsh chemical that don't work. I know how it feel to i have past all those pain, it hurt so bad each day but once day u will see that it only the past and don't look back.
Why american does not know Turmeric because Turmeric it only in asia. This stuff it cure people with acne,scar, Hyperpigmentation within a month no matter how bad your scar or stunborn red mark or Hyperpigmentation it will cure or make it fade in a month. Turmeric It a natural root or powder that u can only buy in asian market by put into the skin will turn to yellow stain but that just a color it will fade if u use baby towel wipe or washing it of. It like a magic waste a few dollar then waste hunder dollar on harsh chemical that make it don't work and make it more worse.
I am here for just help and tell my story. MY english it bad i just come to american 1 year. Pm me if u want know more information. I know alot asian here know Turmeric but no one have post here to help.
While many of us are aware of the numerous benefits of this deep, exotic yellow spice, few incorporate turmeric in our daily use, other than sprinkling a little of it in our daal and subzi. Turmeric, a member of the ginger family, has been used for healing by Ayurvedic means, since time immemorial. Turmeric has anti-inflammatory properties, and is an excellent antiseptic. In addition, it is great for the skin. So before investing in an expensive beauty product, take a look in your kitchen.
The turmeric you get in packets is not the pure form, which is why it is best that you try and find someone who supplies pure turmeric powder, or use the root and make your own paste.
Here are just a few of the various benefits of turmeric:
Reduces Pigmentation
Plagued with pigmentation? Turmeric can help even out your skin tone and colour. Simply apply a little turmeric mixed with cucumber juice or lemon to the affected area. Leave on for fifteen minutes or more, and wash off. Do this everyday, and gradually you will notice your skin colour returning to normal.
Strengthens Bones
Drink a quarter glass turmeric juice every night, with milk. The best way to have this is to take a ½ inch piece of turmeric and boil it with half a glass of milk. Once the milk has turned yellow, remove from fire, let it cool slightly, and sip this. This will cure numerous ailments. Women especially should drink this every night, as it strengthens bones and reduces the risk of developing osteoporosis.
Softens the Body
Turmeric is a wonderful body scrub, which is why Indian brides apply a turmeric and gram flour (besan) mix to their entire body, the morning of the wedding. It leaves your skin soft, smooth and glowing. Of course, a single application will not really make that much of a difference. Do this regularly, and watch your skin change for the better - much better.
Makes the Skin Supple
If you are planning a pregnancy, apply a mixture of turmeric and malai or turmeric and curd to your stomach and waist before going for a bath. Leave it on for fifteen minutes, and wash off. If desired, you could even apply this mixture after bathing. After you have washed off the soap, apply the malai and haldi mixture, leave it on for five minutes, and wash off only with water. Gently, wipe your stomach with the towel. The sooner you start this routine, the more supple and elastic your skin will become, and after giving birth, you will not be left with unsightly stretch marks.
Inhibits Cell Damage
Turmeric is an excellent anti-oxidant, which essentially means that it stabilizes unstable oxygen molecules. These are known as free radicals, and are what cause damage to cells, leading to ageing and various other diseases such as cancer.
Fights Diarrhoea
Turmeric fights the bacteria that causes diarrhoea, so the next time your stomach starts 'running', reach for some haldi. German health authorities have officially declared turmeric herbal tea to be a cure for loose stools.
All around the world you can now avail of turmeric in the form of teas, capsules, tinctures, lotions, ointments and powder. However, here, you have access to turmeric in its purest form, so make the most use of it.
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I guess this question is for those of you who are up to date with your PIH research, i've been using this product and am a bit confused if it has worked or not, one thing it has done is to limit the amount of breakouts which i guess is the papaya enzyme due to its exfoliating effect.
Has anyone of you guys used this soap commonly reffered to as Diana Stalder Kojic & Papaya soap.. tho if you can see on ebay sellers sell OEM a non branded version of Diana Stalders soap which normally comes in a see thru plastic wrap and the block of soap is a bright orange colour.
For those who have or currently using it your comments/opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Many Thanks
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Please share...Pleassssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeee....I am really desperate...
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i'm not as concerned about my scars as i am with my skin discoloration. it's friggen BAD! pictures just don't portray what you see with the naked eye. the scars i can take care of later... but the hoard of brown marks is what's killing me right now.
any suggestions on what i should do to get my skin color back to one tone (if possible). i just want my skin color to even out.
i've had acne since 13... i'm now 24. it's very moderate and i've had severe cases in the past. i still do get acne ughhh... when will this crap end!?!?!?!?
here are pictures of my brown-blotched face plus scars and redmarks... *cries*
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Currently I just apply ACV on my face before I go to bed.
I've read that Extra Virgin Olive Oil is good for red marks too, but didn't want to Swap ACV for it, Seeing as its working ok at the moment.
I was wondering If it wouldn't irritate my skin or anything If I use EVOO in the mornings, and wash it off and put on ACV before I go to bed.
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I've read conflicting opinions about this product so thought I'd start a poll to help anyone considering trying it.
Please only answer if you gave it a fair chance (eg over a couple of weeks).
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I finally found something that works and want to let everyone know about it so hopefully I can help others.
I've suffered with acne since I was 13. And like every acne sufferer I touched, squeezed the pimples and know 5 years later I suffer from red marks/acne scars.
I've tried SO many things. Expensive Proactive stuff, and almost anything else. I heard about using lemon juice a few days ago so I tried that and it actually made my face worse. Applying it directly to my face that is.
I then decided to try olive oil. 3 times a day I pour some olive oil (store bought) onto a cotton ball and rub it into the red/scar marks. It works SO good. In just 2 days I have seen so much improvement.
During this time (I always drink a lot of water) but have been applying a little lemon juice to every glass (heard this is good for you). I'm not sure if it is helping or it's all the olive oil but w/e it is is working.
So for any sufferers out there I strongly suggest trying the olive oil treatment. It really does work!
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My mom bought this stuff for her nose when she had some cancerous cells removed and it left a noticeable scar. I thought why not try and use it on any scars or red marks.
I am impressed. Completely and totally impressed. I just use the smallest little bit on the tip of my finger and then rub it into whatever marks or scars until it's pretty much dry. After only a few days use, my red marks are already turning pink and any slightly bumpy scars seem a little less noticeable. It might be my new regimen all together in combo with this stuff but I am so happy. It's a tad expensive at $19 for a 2oz jar but you use so incredibly little it'll last you a good 6 months or more. Plus I found a pretty good price at
www.folica.com Here are the ingredients:
Purified Water, Onion Extract (Allicin), Glycerin, Allantoin, DL-Panthenol, Carbormer-940, Citricidal®, TEA, Phenoxyethanol, Fragrant Oils.
I'll update with any future progress or possible problems.
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Is Ipl the best treatment for red marks? i had 2 nlite sessions months ago and it did nothing i have since heard that nlite is for acne whereas ipl is for pigmentation problems, is this true? My red marks are extremely mild on one side of my face but the other side probably mildly moderate due to me having some harshers scars on that side of my face will IPL get rid of the redness? Also i like to have some stubble as it masks alot of the redness but would it be better to shave before a IPL sesion or would the laser get through the hair anyway? Thanks.
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I think the user was delna and I was reading it today. So this is here advise in HER OWN WORDS. I will add up the link to the forum later...
But from many people I heard, it works very well. I have yet to try it...but I might if my acne gets out of hand.
my aesthetician is just AWESOME!!! I had gone in for my second Silk Peel and we were talking abt various skin care mistakes for acne-prone skin... she told me that all u need for those red marks to go away is follow these simple rules.
morning...
1) cleanse with a mild cleanser for sensitive skin.
she says the concept of oily skin and using oily skin products for acne is wrong! oily skin products are best tolerated by ppl who have oily skin but free from breakouts. anyone who is doing ANY treatment for acne will have sensitive skin. so hypoallergenic and sensitive skin products are the best bet for them! this is because oily skin products strips of all the oils on skin..so the skin counter-reacts by producing more oil and hence more acne. those with breakout free oily skin...mm...the lucky few..r the only ones to tolerate this..P.Acne bacterium..why do u hate some ppl and leave the others alone??? WHY??? eusa_boohoo.gif
2) exfoliate
avoid all scrubs..no matter how mild they claim to be. but how do we exfoliate, do u ask??? oh thats easy...and DIRT CHEAP too!!! 2 WORDS- BAKING SODA!
she says that she has not come across any acne-prone patients who has benefitted from scrubs. it may work for a while in some...lead to initial happiness..yeah, and then lead to final gloom when breakouts appear from everywhere...even the areas where it was break-out free in the beginning! SO NO SCRUBS PPL eusa_naughty.gif .use baking soda instead... just make a paste out of baking soda and water...and massage very gently. wash immediately. u have to do this after cleansing. u may be able to extract some ripe or loose blackheads afterward. hey and never try to squeeze a blackhead if its not ready to come out...u will regret it!
3) tone to balance pH
now that baking soda is basic in nature..something acidic is needed to balance the ph. ANSWER? APPLE CIDER VINEGAR!
use a 1:8 (vinegar:water) solution first and then gradually increase to 1:1 ..never apply it neat. BALANCED pH = BEAUTIFUL SKIN! wash off after 10 mins. dont leave it on.
4) apply ur acne cream..i use the Proactiv BP lotion. i use the amt Dan suggests for beginners...( edit: i switched to Neutrogena on-the-spot now). U can use ANY acne cream which suits ur skin. Dont skip this step.
4) Moisturise with SPF containing moisturiser. I use Cetaphil and it does not break me out. Look for the words sensitive skin, hypoallergenic & non-comedogenic WITH SUN PROTECTION FACTOR when u buy any moisturiser.
5) And for those who apply make-up, use non-acnegenic products containing titanium dioxide or zinc oxide. they r good for the skin too!
evening..
6) cleanse ur face ..( use baking soda and acv only once a day..morning or evening as ur preference)
7) apply a mild protein mask....till date..ive never found a mask that gives as good results as this mask..this is my aesthetician's favourite mask (btw..she has absolutely gorgeous baby-smooth skin and she told me that she had acne in her teens! hard to believe..!)
1 tablespoon of egg-white whipped up + a squeeze of lemon (dont put too much). smooth it over ur face..avoid eye area... wash off in 10 minutes....and look at a NEW REJUVENATED YOU!! eusa_dance.gif
i tried this mask every day for 5 days....its AMAZING...my skin looks so refreshed! And bonus point is that done everyday...this will make the red-spots VANISH!!!
8) Apply ur acne cream before bed.
THATS IT!! JUST 8 STEPS FOR A HUGE BOOST IN YOUR CONFIDENCE!!
I am not kidding...there is a HUGE difference in my red-spots after just 5 days of this routine. I am going to stick to this routine. U guys ABSOLUTELY MUST TRY THIS.....
i will be glad to answer any questions regarding this....
TAKE CARE ALL OF YOU!!
The posts and responses are seen here:
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/OMG-GUYS-...+lotion+johnson
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ok so i have a ton of red marks left from pimples before the accutane.......i just started a diet..only water veggies fruits and green tea......im on day 2 and i feel kinda better but i dont know if they diet will actually clear my redness/marks on my face....what do u think???
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5th January 2009 09:19 PM
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After following Dan's regimen for a few months, my skin is mostly clear now...all thats left is annoying red marks. After reading around on here, I was interested in the mother of pearl anti-scar cream. It seems to have worked well for people who have tried it, so I ordered a jar to give it a shot.
This site has some info on it:
http://perlop.com/product3.php Now, I have a couple of questions and I hope that someone out there has tried it and can help me out.
I'm a little hesitant because it calls itself a "bleaching cream" and even though the ingredients seem all natural, the term 'bleach' has always sort of put me off. So, I was wondering if I should apply this all over my face, or just to the red spots. I don't want my skin tone to get all uneven or anything from 'bleach'.
Second, I'm a bit confused about where in my regimen to use this cream.
The site recommends leaving it on for 30mins-1 hour and then washing it off...so should I use it before applying BP and all that?
Finally...I guess Im just looking for more opinions on how this stuff works. I'm really hopeful since most people seemed really happy with their results...but Id still like to hear more (good or bad) about it.
Thanks!
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5th January 2009 08:17 PM
Last post by: accutanejourney22 |
my aesthetician is just AWESOME!!! I had gone in for my second Silk Peel and we were talking abt various skin care mistakes for acne-prone skin... she told me that all u need for those red marks to go away is follow these simple rules.
morning...
1) cleanse with a mild cleanser for sensitive skin.
she says the concept of oily skin and using oily skin products for acne is wrong! oily skin products are best tolerated by ppl who have oily skin but free from breakouts. anyone who is doing ANY treatment for acne will have sensitive skin. so hypoallergenic and sensitive skin products are the best bet for them! this is because oily skin products strips of all the oils on skin..so the skin counter-reacts by producing more oil and hence more acne. those with breakout free oily skin...mm...the lucky few..r the only ones to tolerate this..P.Acne bacterium..why do u hate some ppl and leave the others alone??? WHY???
2) exfoliate
avoid all scrubs..no matter how mild they claim to be. but how do we exfoliate, do u ask??? oh thats easy...and DIRT CHEAP too!!! 2 WORDS- BAKING SODA!
she says that she has not come across any acne-prone patients who has benefitted from scrubs. it may work for a while in some...lead to initial happiness..yeah, and then lead to final gloom when breakouts appear from everywhere...even the areas where it was break-out free in the beginning! SO NO SCRUBS PPL
.use baking soda instead... just make a paste out of baking soda and water...and massage very gently. wash immediately. u have to do this after cleansing. u may be able to extract some ripe or loose blackheads afterward. hey and never try to squeeze a blackhead if its not ready to come out...u will regret it!
3) tone to balance pH
now that baking soda is basic in nature..something acidic is needed to balance the ph. ANSWER? APPLE CIDER VINEGAR!
use a 1:8 (vinegar:water) solution first and then gradually increase to 1:1 ..never apply it neat. BALANCED pH = BEAUTIFUL SKIN! wash off after 10 mins. dont leave it on.
4) apply ur acne cream..i use the Proactiv BP lotion. i use the amt Dan suggests for beginners...( edit: i switched to Neutrogena on-the-spot now). U can use ANY acne cream which suits ur skin. Dont skip this step.
4) Moisturise with SPF containing moisturiser. I use Cetaphil and it does not break me out. Look for the words sensitive skin, hypoallergenic & non-comedogenic WITH SUN PROTECTION FACTOR when u buy any moisturiser.
5) And for those who apply make-up, use non-acnegenic products containing titanium dioxide or zinc oxide. they r good for the skin too!
evening..
6) cleanse ur face ..( use baking soda and acv only once a day..morning or evening as ur preference)
7) apply a mild protein mask....till date..ive never found a mask that gives as good results as this mask..this is my aesthetician's favourite mask (btw..she has absolutely gorgeous baby-smooth skin and she told me that she had acne in her teens! hard to believe..!)
1 tablespoon of egg-white whipped up + a squeeze of lemon (dont put too much). smooth it over ur face..avoid eye area... wash off in 10 minutes....and look at a NEW REJUVENATED YOU!!
i tried this mask every day for 5 days....its AMAZING...my skin looks so refreshed! And bonus point is that done everyday...this will make the red-spots VANISH!!!
8) Apply ur acne cream before bed.
THATS IT!! JUST 8 STEPS FOR A HUGE BOOST IN YOUR CONFIDENCE!!
I am not kidding...there is a HUGE difference in my red-spots after just 5 days of this routine. I am going to stick to this routine. U guys ABSOLUTELY MUST TRY THIS.....
i will be glad to answer any questions regarding this....
TAKE CARE ALL OF YOU!!
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5th January 2009 07:53 PM
Last post by: frogskinshoelace |
My PiH is pretty bad. I used to get acne when I was younger, but I pretty much wiped it out with BP. Well, after the fact, I left tons of little red marks all over my face. Its so horrible, and it does not go away. Ive tried so so many things, here what I can remember trying...
-Acne Free Pock Mark Filler Pens (No results)
-All natural blend from a website (Forget the name, no results)
-Acne Free Peel (No results)
-Eucerin Redness Relief System (Little Results)
-A Regimen I found on this board while lurking. It is green tea mixed with powdered vitimin c. (No results, though Ive only been using it for a few weeks, still using it)
-Take 1000 grams of vitimin c each day. (Just sounded like a good idea.)
So, I followed each of these solutions very closely for a few months and my PiH is still what I would consider severe. There has to be something out there that can help this gtfo right? It doesn't seem like it should be this hard. Roughly 3 years of this is just too much. Any suggestions? Ill try almost anything. And no, I don't have acne anymore, an occasional small breakout that will last only a day or 2 is it.
EDIT: I have also heard good things about Glycolic Acid. Can somebody point me in the direction of a good place to get it online? Im not too concerned with money, Id pay a million dollars to get rid of this crap at this point.
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5th January 2009 01:02 PM
Last post by: hope711 |
hello everyone!
im 23 iv had acne for 6 years now! it got really severe lately i ccannot believe it.
just Like everyone else iv tried everything. my most recent: iv been seeing a chinese herbalist for about 3-4 months she said that i have lots of heat in my body and that this is the cause for my acne. she gave me strong herbal pills and said that it would remove the internal heat from my body and balance it at the same time. at the beginning my tounge had a heavy coat of yellow on it always! i could brush it off but it never was naturally pink.! a month went by adn nothing changed so i took a month of strong herbal tea the strongest of all! i have now gon back onto the herbal pills taking then regualry as she says. my tounge is now pink with no yellow coat on and no major spots are erupting on my face. ild liek to say and think that at the moment figner
s crossd its actually working and im sticking with the regime and i will forever more take these pills haha they dont seem to be doing me any mental herbally damage at the moment!
the problem is is that the red marks are still here and they are just awfull my skin feels all soft and smooth but when you look at it its all open poured holey with these bright red marks that just dont seem to get bettter! it looks like i have major acne and i havnt! they seem to be getting redder and redder and to top that off the spots are now popping up all over my back I CANT BELIEVE IT ITS LIKE THEY HAVE TO POP UP SUMWHERE SO IF ITS NOT ON MY FACE THEY COVER THE HOLE OF MY BACK. ild rather them be on my back then my face. but i just dont get it at all!
ANYONE HELP MEEE!!!!! ALSO WHATS WITH THIS REGIME OF DANS ON HERE??? I WAS THINKING OF GIVING IT AGO BUT IV TRIED SO MANY HYPED UP THINGS AND THEYV LET ME DOWN. SURELY IF IT ACTUALLY WORKD THEN WERED ALL BE OFF OF HERE AND WE WOULDNT ALL BE TRYING ALL THESE SHITEY OTHER METHODS TO REMOVE OUR AWFUL SKIN CONDITION
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BOOOOHOOOO
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5th January 2009 07:58 AM
Last post by: superhands |
hey ive been suffering with these burdening red marks for the last five months and i really have no idea what they are i got them from picking at spots and now i have a slighty raised mark on my chin (which was flat for the first three months?!) a red mark where i picked at a spot and left a humongous red patch on my cheek and two little circle shaped red marks on either side of my nose
any ideas on what these are and what i can do to treat them so far ive tried microdermabrasion, chemical peel and all kinds of ointments and none of them seem to have done much but the marks do seem to be fading over time im just worried theyl never fully go away !?!?
and also has anyone got any tips to prevent breakouts and marks, ever since i had the micro and the chemical peel my skins not been able to tolerate benzoyl peroxide which kept my skin amazingly clear but now my skin goes red everytime i use it ! can you give me any advice on this and other things that have kept you clear this is really bothering me cos now i have lots of tiny spots and red marks and blackheads and its disgusting never happened before !!!!!!
help anyone
will be mucho apreciato
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hodget17 |
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5th January 2009 07:55 AM
Last post by: hodget17 |
ive been using differin and AHA for a while (in tandem), and recently my skin started to flake a bit. so, i put up with the dryness, but everytime skin came off, the pigmentation underneath seemed just as dark as before.
so, i was wondering if anyone has used treatments that make their skin flake/peel off, and how long since the start of the flaking it took to see improvement??
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4th January 2009 11:02 PM
Last post by: trex8692 |
i have 2 cocoa butter products, one in a cream/lotion and the other in a jar with a consistency similar to vaseline.
from what ive experieced the latter is rather pore clogging but fades some marks rather quickly
the former is not AS pore clogging (it still does though) but it will also fade marks, although not as fast
i really want the benefits of fading marks, but i dont want to have any pore clogging stuff on my face. should i go ahead and stick it through or no?
also i have hydroquinone in the form of Acne Scar Fade and Erase and it works pretty well but it is rather drying, should i use that instead?
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4th January 2009 10:51 PM
Last post by: panther1 |
hi, i need help, after bactrim septra and ziana i have been clear from acne for 3 weeks, i now have hyperpigmentation spots all over my cheecks, the problem is that i have a red/pink tint on my checks. it seems that oridinarily when someone have PIH the sourounding skin is the same normal skin tone. my face is really dry tooo ... someone help, i know th spots will fade but the red tint of my face is unbearable(its not rosascea or any skin disorder)
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4th January 2009 01:49 PM
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3rd January 2009 10:05 PM
Last post by: accutanejourney22 |
i was wondering... is it possible for my red marks to have gotten REDDER or more visible like darker because i swear to god it was lighter earlier but now it got darker/redder (im on the 4th month of accutane) this is really bothering me
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3rd January 2009 03:54 PM
Last post by: blacktanhead |
Has Anybody tried using Hiruscar to return the color of their natural skin??? I recently saw a new add in an Asian magazine claiming it helps lighten scars and I was wondering has Anyone tried out this product?
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3rd January 2009 02:56 PM
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3rd January 2009 09:39 AM
Last post by: shar26 |
i just wanted to know if the redmarks are broken capillaries...im very depressed because i have no money for laser treatment sory for my english..im from philippines eusa_sick.gif
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3rd January 2009 01:59 AM
Last post by: JFerreira23 |
So I went to my little store, and looked at all the products for AHA, rarely any had any. And if they did they also had BHA's. Anyway I found a really good site while doing research, unfortunately I lost the link, however it taught me about how scientists have ruined certain AHA's by trying to concentrate them to make it work faster. They are called BHA's and in the long run are actually bad for you. Anyway, it told me to not use a prodcut higher than 10% in AHA, and no less than a ph of 3.5. So watch out. Anyway though I came across this lotion called pro age by Dove, and it looks really good. It only has 5SPF but it also has 5% AHA and 13% Glycerin, and 1% Olive Oil, all 3 which I've heard good things about, but low in content for beginning usage. I'll let you know how it all turns out.
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2nd January 2009 10:21 PM
Last post by: Giselle23 |
Hi. My acne is not that bad and I usually can spot treat it really well with benzamycin. The only problem is that every time I get a pimple it leaves behind a red mark. So now for 1 and a half years I have accumulated a ton of red marks on my chin, which looks a lot worse than my actual acne. So I was wondering if there was any product out there I could use to treat both acne and red marks at the same time? Or anything I could use to treat my red marks while still applying the benzamycin? Thank you so much!
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