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Golthie
post Oct 27 2009, 06:41 PM
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Hopefully someone can answer my questions:

Thursday will be the end of my 4th week using Dan's regimen. I started slowly with the b.p. and am using a full finger (from the tube) once daily. Even this makes my skin very flakey and pink. So does this mean it's going to take longer to see some clearing/improvement? Because right now I am not seeing it. I expected SOMETHING by now. Will I need to be using the b.p. morning and night for awhile before I actually start to clear up? (Am using Aveeno calming face wash and Cetaphil moisturizer) TIA smile.gif
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post Oct 27 2009, 07:06 PM
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hey im over 3 months into the regimen and i am still not seeing results. One can only hope and pray.
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post Oct 28 2009, 12:20 AM
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try with jojoba oil as well, might help biggrin.gif
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post Oct 28 2009, 01:56 AM
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yea, i dont know why people say they are doing the regimen when they are not. The "regimen" is using 2 full pumps of Bp TWICE a day. only cleanser, bp and moisturizer (and aha maybe). if your not using two full pumps, if your not using the reg twice a day, your doing your own regimen, not Dan's....just read a little please/ Jesus. Its so ridiculous how many people have comments about how bad the regimen is and it turns out they wash the bp after 10 min, or only use once a day, or only use half a pump of bp. If these things work thats awesome, but its not THE regimen...pleaseeee read the "start here" page and not bitch about the regimen not working...pleaseeee it really stresses me out
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post Oct 28 2009, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE (Maximus0 @ Oct 28 2009, 01:56 AM) *
yea, i dont know why people say they are doing the regimen when they are not. The "regimen" is using 2 full pumps of Bp TWICE a day. only cleanser, bp and moisturizer (and aha maybe). if your not using two full pumps, if your not using the reg twice a day, your doing your own regimen, not Dan's....just read a little please/ Jesus. Its so ridiculous how many people have comments about how bad the regimen is and it turns out they wash the bp after 10 min, or only use once a day, or only use half a pump of bp. If these things work thats awesome, but its not THE regimen...pleaseeee read the "start here" page and not bitch about the regimen not working...pleaseeee it really stresses me out


You're rude. I am not doing "my own regimen." I didn't say the regimen is bad. Everyone's skin is different, reacts differently to different treatments. I am just seeking some constructive advice from experienced regimen users for my particular situation. Please don't post unless you can be helpful.
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post Oct 28 2009, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE (Golthie @ Oct 27 2009, 04:41 PM) *
Hopefully someone can answer my questions:

Thursday will be the end of my 4th week using Dan's regimen. I started slowly with the b.p. and am using a full finger (from the tube) once daily. Even this makes my skin very flakey and pink. So does this mean it's going to take longer to see some clearing/improvement? Because right now I am not seeing it. I expected SOMETHING by now. Will I need to be using the b.p. morning and night for awhile before I actually start to clear up? (Am using Aveeno calming face wash and Cetaphil moisturizer) TIA smile.gif


A finger full is the correct amount, but yes, you should be using it twice daily. That's one thing that is stressed, not using enough BP (or using too much in the beginning, which doesn't apply since you're in week four)

vipertong is right. Try jojoba oil for the flakiness. I'm not sure if you have done so yet, but check out the pinned topic "problems with dryness or flaking?". Also, a moisturizer with zinc oxide is supposed to help with redness. If you're in a pinch, Burt's Bees diaper ointment has both zinc oxide and jojoba oil. Just check out the other ingredients to make sure they'll agree with your skin.
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/Zinc-Oxide-t26836.html

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post Oct 28 2009, 01:35 PM
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i was being helpful. Im trying to tell you that using BP once daily is probably the problem, you should use it twice. Your skin will adjust eventually.
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post Oct 28 2009, 02:17 PM
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I'm pretty sure the negative portion of that post was referring to ratsoff or w/e. and yea jojoba oil and the olay spf moisturizer should help out a lot. it did for me.
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post Oct 28 2009, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE (ijpinilla @ Oct 28 2009, 12:59 PM) *
A finger full is the correct amount, but yes, you should be using it twice daily. That's one thing that is stressed, not using enough BP (or using too much in the beginning, which doesn't apply since you're in week four)

vipertong is right. Try jojoba oil for the flakiness. I'm not sure if you have done so yet, but check out the pinned topic "problems with dryness or flaking?". Also, a moisturizer with zinc oxide is supposed to help with redness. If you're in a pinch, Burt's Bees diaper ointment has both zinc oxide and jojoba oil. Just check out the other ingredients to make sure they'll agree with your skin.
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/Zinc-Oxide-t26836.html

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post Oct 28 2009, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (Golthie @ Oct 28 2009, 01:30 PM) *
QUOTE (ijpinilla @ Oct 28 2009, 12:59 PM) *
A finger full is the correct amount, but yes, you should be using it twice daily. That's one thing that is stressed, not using enough BP (or using too much in the beginning, which doesn't apply since you're in week four)

vipertong is right. Try jojoba oil for the flakiness. I'm not sure if you have done so yet, but check out the pinned topic "problems with dryness or flaking?". Also, a moisturizer with zinc oxide is supposed to help with redness. If you're in a pinch, Burt's Bees diaper ointment has both zinc oxide and jojoba oil. Just check out the other ingredients to make sure they'll agree with your skin.
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/Zinc-Oxide-t26836.html

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No problem, and hopefully I'm not spamming now, but I'm kinda going through this as well. My skin is just on the verge from being a dry, flaky mess. I can feel it. So I found some promising user submitted reviews here on calamine, and I dunno why I didn't think of it to begin with since it makes sense for redness. But have you tried calamine lotion? (Of course, it'd probably be a night application since going around a pink, chalky mess is only cool if you have the chicken pox wink.gif )
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post Oct 29 2009, 10:19 AM
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We always used calamine as kids on mosquito bites and such, but I've never thought to put it on my face. It may take out the redness but wouldn't it make your skin even drier? I really want to stick to Dan's regimen, so I may just try jojoba oil since he recommends it.
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post Oct 29 2009, 11:17 AM
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Agreed that you should use it twice daily, or at this point, start working to twice daily. I understand though that it's hard when you're a big flaky mess! I'm a little over 2 weeks on the regimen and I'm only using half a fingers length, once a day. I'm hoping by Sunday I can get to a full finger. Then after I feel my skin has adjusted to that I'll start slowly adding some in the mornings.

Jojoba oil is great for flakes!! I use it at night mixed with Dan's moisturizer, but only add a couple drops. It leaves me feeling really moisturized...too bad I can't use it in the mornings though...I have to have an oil free moisturizer for my makeup (which I know is my own problem, but I have to have my makeup!! nod.gif )

Good luck with whatever you find to work for you, just try to stick with it and hopefully you'll see some results soon!!

Also, have you possibly thought of using Dan's cleanser and moisturizer in place of what you are using (or at least his face wash)? I know it's expensive with shipping, but I've found that since I've been using his stuff, as recommended - really gently, the redness is almost non existent other than where all my pimples and scars are! Maybe what you're using is a little too harsh?

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post Oct 29 2009, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE (Golthie @ Oct 29 2009, 10:19 AM) *
We always used calamine as kids on mosquito bites and such, but I've never thought to put it on my face. It may take out the redness but wouldn't it make your skin even drier? I really want to stick to Dan's regimen, so I may just try jojoba oil since he recommends it.



Yeahh i think i agree with you because it does make any skin drier..and too dry skin..is NEVER good for Acne....in order to clear up skin has to be mouisurized ..just right so that ur not really flaking but your not all greasy(however at night i moiusturize more because no one can see you and skin repairs at night)....

OH YEAH AND ABOUT THE JOJOBA...OIL..I like it alot!! barely started using it three days ago..but skin feels much better ...i really like it

ohh yeah and about ur question Golthie..try adding 1/3 of finger in the morning of Bp to your current regimen..

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Dan's BP(full finger yes im bold its not drying out my skin yay!)
Dan's Mousturizer(Full Pump Mixed w/4 drops of JOJoba Oil)
SPOT TREAT IF NEEDED WITH AHA+

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have 3 tiny pimples in my chin but they havnt grown into monsters...rest of face is 85% clear...all that is needed to battle is the whiteheads and blackheads but even they are diminishing...THANK YOU DAN!
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post Oct 30 2009, 11:46 AM
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Maybe that was my problem...I started with only applying b.p. at night and worked my way up to a full finger when I should've used small amounts morning and evening instead. It's so hard to figure out what your skin needs! Thank you both for the suggestions. I started using a little b.p. in the a.m. a couple days ago so I hope my skin doesn't freak out smile.gif

Sushikam, what moisturizer do you use under makeup? I cannot go out without it either! the Cetaphil is just so heavy feeling for a.m. use.
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post Oct 30 2009, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE (Golthie @ Oct 30 2009, 11:46 AM) *
Maybe that was my problem...I started with only applying b.p. at night and worked my way up to a full finger when I should've used small amounts morning and evening instead. It's so hard to figure out what your skin needs! Thank you both for the suggestions. I started using a little b.p. in the a.m. a couple days ago so I hope my skin doesn't freak out smile.gif

Sushikam, what moisturizer do you use under makeup? I cannot go out without it either! the Cetaphil is just so heavy feeling for a.m. use.


Well up until this morning I've been using Aveeno Clear Complexion moisturizer...but I have been wanting to stop using it because the ingredients are weird and it contains salycic acid which I should avoid while on the regimen. I since ordered some Complex 15 Theraputic Moisturizer. It is one recommended or used often by other users of this website. Not one Dan recommends, but it's got good ratings. I used it for the first this morning and it felt really nice! Has the same consistency as Dan's moisturizer (if you've used it before) but doesn't have oil in it so my mineral makeup can go over it. I find that it doesn't moisturize quite well enough (for me my problem dry areas are around my chin)...but if you maybe just apply your cetaphil on your driest areas in addition to such a moisturizer as this, then you could solve the flakes problem.

I hope that this moisturizer doesn't break me out, but with the ingredients being what they are, I doubt I will. It feels much better going on too, kind of cooling rather than giving me a burning sensation like Dan's or my Aveeno sometimes did. I hope to soon start using a little BP in the mornings myself, and hopefully this moisturizer will go over the BP well.

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Getting haircut, hoping that will make me feel better!
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post Nov 2 2009, 09:39 AM
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I have used Complex 15 before. It was a little too expensive for me so I bought the knock-off Cetaphil, but I really do prefer the consistency of Complex 15. It didn't break me out either. I was hoping to find a really good SPF moisturizer. Something hydrating but not greasy of course smile.gif
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Hi...i'm just entering my fourth week on the regimen as well and my breakouts never ceased and I finally came to the conclusion that it was the make-up I was using causing me to breakout out...because, like you, I can't go without it. I've since switched things up and am using Almay now (per Dan's advice) and hoping that it doesn't further irritate my skin (Physicians Formula gave me cysts and a lot of the drugstore mineral brands have also contributed to breakouts). I don't know if that's solved the problem because I've only been using for a few days now... but I have yet to have any issues. I'm crossing my fingers. I want the regimen to work, I really do. I got to a point where I thought it wasn't going to work for me because I'm continuing to break out - and I do everything right, two times a day, the whole deal. However, I'm going to give it more time because I truly believe I hindered my progress by using makeup. Just a suggestion because that could also be part of your problem.
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post Nov 3 2009, 06:36 PM
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Oh I totally agree with you. I would love to NOT wear makeup. I have hereditary dark circles under my eyes that are a pain to cover, so if I don't I look "tired" or sick all the time. Cover those and I have to use makeup all over to even everything out. I don't wear it at home and just use dabs of concealer for quick trips to the store etc. Usually just a full face to church and when out with the hubs smile.gif I've never used Physician's Formula and the mineral makeups always make my huge pores look even bigger. The Almay stuff just isn't enough coverage for me. If my skin is irritated by makeup it's usually whitheads within a day or two, not these deep pimples I'm getting.

I started very slowly with the b.p. so I am going to give the regimen more time to work. I know pimples can take weeks to form and surface so I'm just going to stick with it and wait it out. Thanks for your help and let me know how your skin likes the makeup!
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