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 Apr 3 2007, 08:53 PM
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Alright, first some background on my acne and I:
Age: 19 Sex: Male Location: Orange County, California I have been battling acne since puberty. Methods I have tried: -Benzyl Peroxide (BP) ��‚�� Attempted Smoothbeam (tested), rejected the full treatment because of too much negative feedback on these forums. My skin: Oily and Dry, olive tone, smooth skin, I get both red and brown spots. -------------------------------------------------------- My approach (morning): (revised as of May 20th, 2007) Take Supplements: -Probiotics L-acidophilus 1.150 Billion -MACA (root extract) -Saw Palmetto 320mg Clean my face with Clarisonic using Neutrogena Fresh Foaming Cleanser (non hypoallergenic, no perfumes, no SLS) Night: Clean my face with Clarisonic using Neutrogena Fresh Foaming Cleanser (non hypoallergenic, no perfumes, no SLS) Use the Beautyskin Lamp for 15 minutes. -------------------------------------------------------- I exercise 5-6 times a week (body building). I eat lots of calories/protein to help me gain weight (I am underweight). However, the foods I eat for weight gain are organic. I only shop at Trader Joes or Mothers Market. I stay away from Albertsons and Fast Foods. Please visit my Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/kiwicameron/ Also, if you spot a flaw in my methods or with my writing, please correct me.
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My approach (morning): (revised as of June 12th, 2007) Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Take Supplements: -Probiotics L-acidophilus 1.150 Billion -Quantum-Rx Greens Mix Capsules- 1440mg Daily -MSM- Name: Super Good Stuff 1000mg, vegetarian, pharmaceutical grade -Fish Oil-Name: RxOmega-3 Factors EPA:400mg / DHA 200mg Night: Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Use the Beautyskin Lamp for 15 minutes. |
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Apr 3 2007, 09:07 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 3-April 07 From: Irvine |
*My dermatologist adventure:
This is a follow up on my smoothbeam dilemma. I was interested in light therapy since I have tried many approaches to curing my acne. Mind you, my acne is primarily cystic. 1st Dermatologist: Located in Irvine, www.totalderm.com. I went in to get my consultation and I perceived the place to be very nice, it looked new. This amateur girl walks me into the room and says the doctor will be right in. A few minutes passed and this scary looking guy comes in, sits down, and says “You have really bad acne”. I thought, “Gee thanks” in my head. He wanted me to do Photodynamic Therapy at 400 per session. I thought it was reasonable and walked out. 2nd Dermy: I wanted a second opinion just in case. The next place was more run down, and smelled funny. The place wasn’t very clean. I get seated in a room and the dermy walks in with a suit on saying he has allergies and to not touch him. He said, “You shoud never do photodynamic therapy, it will ruin your skin since it is olive”. I had two contradicting dermatologists in the same day. He recommended I do 10 sessions of a blue light therapy for 8000 dollars. Have a nice day sir! 3rd Dermy: More reputable, www.skin1.com The staff was very knowledgeable, and nice. Went in for a consultation and she said “You shouldn’t do PDT, you should do smoothbeam”. That was three dermatologists, all of which said something different. She quoted me 300 per session and laughed when I told her that the dermatologist before her wanted 8000 dollars. She did test spots on my skin to see if I were to get effected by hyper pigmentation. 3 Dermatologists, who do I believe? Went on acne.org and there were too many cases of smoothbeam not working. The 3rd dermy told me that 98% of her patients will see improvement. Acne.org and her speech contradicted. Many users on these forums stated that it never worked even when their dermy said the same as mine did, yet another contradiction. What a waste, eh? But I learned that the only person you can count on is yourself. Watched, “The Secret” DVD, and it helped me break through the idea of dependence on another person in a white coat.
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My approach (morning): (revised as of June 12th, 2007) Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Take Supplements: -Probiotics L-acidophilus 1.150 Billion -Quantum-Rx Greens Mix Capsules- 1440mg Daily -MSM- Name: Super Good Stuff 1000mg, vegetarian, pharmaceutical grade -Fish Oil-Name: RxOmega-3 Factors EPA:400mg / DHA 200mg Night: Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Use the Beautyskin Lamp for 15 minutes. |
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Apr 4 2007, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(Orgasmic Organic @ Apr 3 2007, 07:53 PM) [snapback]1782492[/snapback] - I love sugar (cane or crystallized only, NO HIGH FRUCTOSE CRAP). Hate to break it to you, but if you really want to treat acne "holistically," the sugar must go.  The "organic" topicals will probably be pretty ineffective. Their main advantage is that they might not irritate the skin as much as chemicals. But to truly treat acne holistically, you really have to take a look at your diet and try to determine the things that might contribute to your acne. This takes some work, but the NUMBER 1 thing to cut out is sugar. There's not a single person I've read of on these boards - and in my own experience as well - who successfully gets rid of acne using dietary/natural methods without eliminating sugar. If you must continue to eat sugar, you might as well not try natural methods, because it's going to be like trying to skateboard uphill. 
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My regimen: Eat regularly: a wide variety of vegetables, eggs, meat/fish, cheese, yogurt, butter, fruit, nuts/seeds. Occasionally eat: beans, squash, potatoes. Don't eat: sugar, grains, most processed food. |
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Apr 4 2007, 10:49 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 3-April 07 From: Irvine |
I thought sugar was natural in the body? Eating some sugar in moderation is okay.
I have a big sweet tooth however, typically with ca cao. I have an extremely fast metabolic rate, thus, sugar will not effect me as much as others. I'll take what you said though, and try to minimize the sugar intake. I just got done eating like 4 ginger cookies, after reading your post I was slightly shocked. This is a slap on the wrist for me, I appreciate the advice. 
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My approach (morning): (revised as of June 12th, 2007) Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Take Supplements: -Probiotics L-acidophilus 1.150 Billion -Quantum-Rx Greens Mix Capsules- 1440mg Daily -MSM- Name: Super Good Stuff 1000mg, vegetarian, pharmaceutical grade -Fish Oil-Name: RxOmega-3 Factors EPA:400mg / DHA 200mg Night: Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Use the Beautyskin Lamp for 15 minutes. |
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Apr 5 2007, 12:06 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 3-April 07 From: Irvine |
Update: 4/5/2007
Skin is doing okay, minor peeling between my eyes. Organic topicals applied. What I ate today: Promax Chocolate mint bar *protein based Organic Zbar Organic potatoes (multi) Natural chicken, nonhormonal, cooked with Teriyaki sauce (natural, no biproducts) - The teriyaki had soy! ....grrrr Bon bons.... bad me! Heavy Weight Gainer shake Organic Multivitamin liquid drink, contains everything the body needs
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My approach (morning): (revised as of June 12th, 2007) Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Take Supplements: -Probiotics L-acidophilus 1.150 Billion -Quantum-Rx Greens Mix Capsules- 1440mg Daily -MSM- Name: Super Good Stuff 1000mg, vegetarian, pharmaceutical grade -Fish Oil-Name: RxOmega-3 Factors EPA:400mg / DHA 200mg Night: Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Use the Beautyskin Lamp for 15 minutes. |
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Apr 5 2007, 09:15 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 9-December 04 |
QUOTE(Orgasmic Organic @ Apr 4 2007, 09:49 PM) [snapback]1784782[/snapback] I thought sugar was natural in the body? Eating some sugar in moderation is okay. I have a big sweet tooth however, typically with ca cao. I have an extremely fast metabolic rate, thus, sugar will not effect me as much as others. I'll take what you said though, and try to minimize the sugar intake. I just got done eating like 4 ginger cookies, after reading your post I was slightly shocked. This is a slap on the wrist for me, I appreciate the advice. Refined sugar is NOT natural in the body. It really is best to totally abstain from it for all kinds of health reasons. You're right that it might be okay in moderation (moderation doesn't mean DAILY intake!) for SOME people; provided they have strong digestion and are very active. Still, for people with acne trying to get rid of it using dietary methods, it's best avoided for at least a period of time. If you find that your acne isn't getting better, you might want to try cutting it completely. Believe me, I used to have a sugar addiction. I believe it's what caused me many problems (acne and otherwise) in the first place. Strong cravings for sugar can signal an imbalance in the gi tract. When sugar-feeding bacteria get out of balance due to being "fed" too much sugar and an absence of good bacteria to keep them in check, it can definitely result in acne. I suggest reading up on candida.
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My regimen: Eat regularly: a wide variety of vegetables, eggs, meat/fish, cheese, yogurt, butter, fruit, nuts/seeds. Occasionally eat: beans, squash, potatoes. Don't eat: sugar, grains, most processed food. |
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Apr 5 2007, 09:29 AM
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 dum spiro, spero Group: Veteran Members Joined: 14-January 05 From: From Minneapolis |
I would like to direct you here.
Your diet and regimen sound pretty darn decent to me, in the link I posted you may wish to consult with bber and autonomousone1980. bber is a body builder as well. Many of us are having great success with this addition to our diet 
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Nobody becomes an artist unless they have to. -Janet Fitch Goodbye, cruel world, Im leaving you today. Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye. Goodbye all you people, There's nothing you can say, To make me change my mind. Goodbye. My Regimen: Powdered Yucca root on a wet piece of felt, lathers & cleans without stripping in the morning I follow this with Desert Essence Organic Lavender & Tea Tree Oil In the evening I follow cleansing with 0.025 tretinoin gel Egyptian Magic as moisturizer GLUTEN FREE |
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Apr 5 2007, 04:11 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 3-April 07 From: Irvine |
Hmm, interesting.
Has anyone seen a double blinded study for fish oils to see if it does work on acne? I usually will not 'trust' something until it has been tested. I am stopping the sugar today....!  
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My approach (morning): (revised as of June 12th, 2007) Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Take Supplements: -Probiotics L-acidophilus 1.150 Billion -Quantum-Rx Greens Mix Capsules- 1440mg Daily -MSM- Name: Super Good Stuff 1000mg, vegetarian, pharmaceutical grade -Fish Oil-Name: RxOmega-3 Factors EPA:400mg / DHA 200mg Night: Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Use the Beautyskin Lamp for 15 minutes. |
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Apr 5 2007, 10:36 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 3-April 07 From: Irvine |
Skin: Doing exceptional. Brown spots are fading with the cream I got, no new acne as of late. Although my forehead is still has red bumps.
what I ate: Organic Z bar with Tejava Tea 2 small natural pizzas, italian Farm raised Norwegian Alaskan Salmon (for my omegas) 2 more organic Z bars 2 Organic wheat breads (like french bread) - nonbleached, nothing added More Tejava tea (sugarless, microbrewed) Weight Gainer shake -Added magnesium and calcium liquid, and Flax seed oils (omega 3, 6, 9) --------------------------- Organic topicals applied (See above)
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My approach (morning): (revised as of June 12th, 2007) Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Take Supplements: -Probiotics L-acidophilus 1.150 Billion -Quantum-Rx Greens Mix Capsules- 1440mg Daily -MSM- Name: Super Good Stuff 1000mg, vegetarian, pharmaceutical grade -Fish Oil-Name: RxOmega-3 Factors EPA:400mg / DHA 200mg Night: Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Use the Beautyskin Lamp for 15 minutes. |
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Apr 5 2007, 10:42 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 15-February 07 |
honestly alot of stuff that is organic isnt necissarily good, i mean you could go out and buy a bowl of organic sugar, but the fact would remain that it is sugar, same goes with milk, chocolate etc.. perhaps instead of going organic try to cut out dairy, refined carbs and foods high in saturated and omega 6 fats..
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Apr 5 2007, 11:13 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 3-April 07 From: Irvine |
I'm working on it
 Most of the organic things I eat are on the healthy side. I do not want to eat like a bird.
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My approach (morning): (revised as of June 12th, 2007) Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Take Supplements: -Probiotics L-acidophilus 1.150 Billion -Quantum-Rx Greens Mix Capsules- 1440mg Daily -MSM- Name: Super Good Stuff 1000mg, vegetarian, pharmaceutical grade -Fish Oil-Name: RxOmega-3 Factors EPA:400mg / DHA 200mg Night: Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Use the Beautyskin Lamp for 15 minutes. |
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Apr 6 2007, 08:53 AM
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dum spiro, spero Group: Veteran Members Joined: 14-January 05 From: From Minneapolis |
OOrganic - there are numerous studies posted in the thread. What most of us did was check our Omega 6 and Omega 3 intake at http://nutritiondata.com Ideally, the human diet has a balance of 1:1. Unfortunately, most modern societies fall far below this ideal. My personal ratio was 7:1 - Omega6:Omega3. An imbalanced ration of O6 causes inflammation contributing to arthritis, colitis, acne, etc. All of this iformation you will find find on the NutritionData website, which is gov't funded BTW.
I researched different brands of fish oil, found one I liked (carlson) and corrected the balance to 1:1. The 1:1 balance is what nutritionists recommend, and what the human body requires for optimum function. I would say 90% of us are seeing positive correlation with acne reduction and fish oil. What it may help to know is that the amount of fish oil ingested is no more than you would get having a few meals of salmon per day. I really encourage you to read the studies posted in the thread, do some of your own research and give it a go 
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Nobody becomes an artist unless they have to. -Janet Fitch Goodbye, cruel world, Im leaving you today. Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye. Goodbye all you people, There's nothing you can say, To make me change my mind. Goodbye. My Regimen: Powdered Yucca root on a wet piece of felt, lathers & cleans without stripping in the morning I follow this with Desert Essence Organic Lavender & Tea Tree Oil In the evening I follow cleansing with 0.025 tretinoin gel Egyptian Magic as moisturizer GLUTEN FREE |
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Apr 7 2007, 12:58 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 3-April 07 From: Irvine |
Thanks for the advice Ayla!
I started taking liquid flax seed oil yesterday, I'll post the ingredients on here later for you to inspect. For today: Stress! Girlfriend and I got into a small frustration, she started crying etc. (wasn't crying because of me though). I was trying to cheer her up most of the day. She ended up staying with me at my apartment. Unfortunately, my face got smothered with kisses and her soft hands kept squeezing my cheeks... as a result my skin took a good beating today.  (Although, I shouldn't say unfortunately, I love my girlfriend and her kisses  ). Right has she left I treated my skin, hopefully I saved it. No new acne, just red bumps on my forehead. What I ate: 2 Z bars in the morning with organic carrots Rice and lettuce for lunch another organic zbar 3 Eggs 900 Calorie shake, with omega 3,6,9 complex, magnesium-calcium (for my heart).
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My approach (morning): (revised as of June 12th, 2007) Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Take Supplements: -Probiotics L-acidophilus 1.150 Billion -Quantum-Rx Greens Mix Capsules- 1440mg Daily -MSM- Name: Super Good Stuff 1000mg, vegetarian, pharmaceutical grade -Fish Oil-Name: RxOmega-3 Factors EPA:400mg / DHA 200mg Night: Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Use the Beautyskin Lamp for 15 minutes. |
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Apr 8 2007, 01:17 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 3-April 07 From: Irvine |
Update:
Replacing my Fruit peels with AHA/BHA 10% Skin: Doing better, couple of small whiteheads no big deal, curious as to what the AHA will do. Picture update coming soon What I ate: 4 Eggs Organic Apple Juice Organic wheat bread 1 Zbar Natural Steak Cream Soda (diet, no sugar, etc.) Zbar 10 Organic Strawberries Imitation sushi 900 Calorie Shake, magnesium calcium, omega 3,6,9 complex, flax seed oils Enzymes
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My approach (morning): (revised as of June 12th, 2007) Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Take Supplements: -Probiotics L-acidophilus 1.150 Billion -Quantum-Rx Greens Mix Capsules- 1440mg Daily -MSM- Name: Super Good Stuff 1000mg, vegetarian, pharmaceutical grade -Fish Oil-Name: RxOmega-3 Factors EPA:400mg / DHA 200mg Night: Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Use the Beautyskin Lamp for 15 minutes. |
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Apr 8 2007, 10:02 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 3-April 07 From: Irvine |
New update:
Skin: Doing well, big cyst above my right eye. Also got one inbetween my eyes. They have been there awhile... Looking into the Clarisonic brush... will purchase over the week What I ate: 4 eggs Tejava tea 2 organic wheat breads 10 strawberries cream soda ginger cookies another cream soda =P organic wheat bread /w organic tomatoes pb and J sandwiches, organic peanut butter (no trans fats), organic strawberry jam
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My approach (morning): (revised as of June 12th, 2007) Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Take Supplements: -Probiotics L-acidophilus 1.150 Billion -Quantum-Rx Greens Mix Capsules- 1440mg Daily -MSM- Name: Super Good Stuff 1000mg, vegetarian, pharmaceutical grade -Fish Oil-Name: RxOmega-3 Factors EPA:400mg / DHA 200mg Night: Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Use the Beautyskin Lamp for 15 minutes. |
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Apr 10 2007, 01:02 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 3-April 07 From: Irvine |
Skin update:
Doing well, My Dad says I am improving Got a cyst on my back, hurts really bad What I ate: 2 organic Z bars 4 Eggs Tejava tea 5 Ginger cookies 2 Organic PB n J sandwiches 3 organic wheat breads /w organic tomato sauce 900 Calorie shake, same stuff put in
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My approach (morning): (revised as of June 12th, 2007) Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Take Supplements: -Probiotics L-acidophilus 1.150 Billion -Quantum-Rx Greens Mix Capsules- 1440mg Daily -MSM- Name: Super Good Stuff 1000mg, vegetarian, pharmaceutical grade -Fish Oil-Name: RxOmega-3 Factors EPA:400mg / DHA 200mg Night: Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Use the Beautyskin Lamp for 15 minutes. |
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Apr 12 2007, 08:53 AM
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Hi there,
Good luck - sounds like you've got the willpower to make it work. I wouldn't recommend the Clarisonic though - I bought one a couple of months ago. I don't think it irritates my skin at all, it's just that it doesn't do anything to make up for it's cost. I used to use a manual (soft) face brush from the Body Shop or muslin cloths (changed daily) and they exfoliated as well and cost far less.... If you're exfoliating at all, and using peels then I don't think it will help any.... Vic |
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Apr 12 2007, 10:01 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 3-April 07 From: Irvine |
Well, I don't exfoliate. So I got the clarisonic to help clean up my skin.
I bought it off ebay for about 100 so I didn't pay full retail. I was using peels, but I have to wait until my acne dies down before I can do more. Thanks for the advice though.
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My approach (morning): (revised as of June 12th, 2007) Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Take Supplements: -Probiotics L-acidophilus 1.150 Billion -Quantum-Rx Greens Mix Capsules- 1440mg Daily -MSM- Name: Super Good Stuff 1000mg, vegetarian, pharmaceutical grade -Fish Oil-Name: RxOmega-3 Factors EPA:400mg / DHA 200mg Night: Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Use the Beautyskin Lamp for 15 minutes. |
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Apr 13 2007, 12:57 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 3-April 07 From: Irvine |
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skin is doing so-so.... Cyst between my eye is bigger cause I played with it. Big red bump on my left cheek new red bump on my neck Forehead is being nice to me! Woot woot What I ate: Typical organic stuff. No sugars, except for organic cocoa and Zbars Plenty of eggs Heavy weight gainer shake
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My approach (morning): (revised as of June 12th, 2007) Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Take Supplements: -Probiotics L-acidophilus 1.150 Billion -Quantum-Rx Greens Mix Capsules- 1440mg Daily -MSM- Name: Super Good Stuff 1000mg, vegetarian, pharmaceutical grade -Fish Oil-Name: RxOmega-3 Factors EPA:400mg / DHA 200mg Night: Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Use the Beautyskin Lamp for 15 minutes. |
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Apr 17 2007, 12:28 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 3-April 07 From: Irvine |
Update:
Keeping up with dieting/weight gaining. Skin: Actually doing fairly well, I do see improvement. I got a real nasty red bump on my jaw line, this thing was massive and it made me sad =( I was working so hard in that area and it still came up! I am trying to make it so that once the red bump dies down I'll prevent any new pimples from forming, that way my face can heal the rest of the scars.
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My approach (morning): (revised as of June 12th, 2007) Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Take Supplements: -Probiotics L-acidophilus 1.150 Billion -Quantum-Rx Greens Mix Capsules- 1440mg Daily -MSM- Name: Super Good Stuff 1000mg, vegetarian, pharmaceutical grade -Fish Oil-Name: RxOmega-3 Factors EPA:400mg / DHA 200mg Night: Clean my face with Clarisonic using Avalon Organics Cleansing Gel Use the Beautyskin Lamp for 15 minutes. |
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