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3rd January 2009 09:35 PM Last post by: girlface15 |
What is it?Blue/red light acne treatment is an acne treatment for mild/moderate acne where you shine bright 'blue' (actually it's violet) and red lights on your skin to
prevent new acne spots. It's thought to be safe, and improves acne by ~75% for 80% of people over 3 months. Another 10% of people see some improvement. This is comparable or better to BP, and similar to other treatments like antibiotics.
The violet light kills a bacteria called P.Acnes- this is the bacteria that is killed by most acne treatment- removal of the bacteria greatly improves your skin and prevents most acne. The light activates a porphoryn in the bacteria that isn't present in human skin, and the bacteria cooks itself.
The red light is anti-inflammatory and improves healing and increases the rate of production of collagen (giving a handy gentle facelift/antiwrinkling effect that lasts as long as you keep treating). Skin tone ends up
better than normal on this treatment, a nice side-effect. It also helps heal up red marks; >10% or more faster.
Does it work?For pictures see:
(managing director of Androv); he got pretty good clearance.
also
http://www.caci.co.nz/imagelibrary/100060.pdf (they're a couple of people who have had only violet light treatment- blue/red light treatment gives slightly better clearance and results.)
There's been one major published study in the UK:
http://www.wasauna.com/bluelight/journal.pdfThis involved 120 people using the light everyday, at home. Also, quite a few people have tried this form of treatment to good success. Yes, it really works.
That study used fluorescent tubes, but LEDs seem to work just as well:
LED study.
Also other studies:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...l=pubmed_docsum and
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...l=pubmed_docsumHow do I get this treatment?You need *really* almost stupidly bright blue/red lights for this to work. To get intense enough light you need to buy special lamps. Or you could go to a dermatologist, but I do not recommend that, it's nearly always much more expensive, awkward to travel to, and works less well. Plus if you buy the lamps you can use them for years, for little or no extra cost. If your acne improves you can sell them on ebay or something.
Any of these products will probably work (note: light is light, don't expect expensive ones to work any better, they won't)
BeautySkinhttp://www.acnelamp.com/http://www.acnestar.co.uk/http://www.lumiport.comhttp://www.naturebright.com/products/skin_care_lamp.htmlVerilux happyskin acne light
The more powerful the lights are, the less time you need to spend treating, but your acne won't be any better or worse.
n.b. small handheld LED lights that only cover a small area mean you can spend ages treating; I think most people are better off with lamps that can cover a large area.
Also:
http://www.kaliszincolor.com/A_natural_acne_treatment.htm(Sci/Art Lamps- or it's cheaper to just buy the dichroic bulbs and holders:
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/forums.html...5113)
They sell dichroic lamps these seem to work, or at least a few people here have claimed that they did.
They also ship LED lamps. But the LEDs that have been shipped are a deep blue, at 470nm. These should
not work since it is incapable of killing the acne bacteria. The colour that works is a deep violet colour at 405-420nm; 470nm is too far off. They claim that they will be shipping a violet lamp later on, but until they do, avoid this type at all costs.
How quickly does it work?You'll see some improvement in a few days; that's mainly the red light acting. However the violet light will kill the P.Acnes almost completely in the first few days or so.
It will then take a good 12 weeks for the pores to completely unblock themselves and the skin to grow and the red marks to fade. In the meantime you will continue to get acne; but at an ever slowing rate. Most people don't notice any effect for the first 6 weeks, because normal variation in acne covers the effect. Some people don't get good clearance till the 12th week. Under no circumstances give up!How long should I use the lights for?You should follow the instructions. Some people find that using the lights slightly less than indicated gives better results (e.g. 10 minutes instead of 15). It seems to be a bad idea to use the lights longer than the manufacturer says, it tends to irritate the skin slightly and if anything causes more acne.
You should use the lights once a day (everyday!) You can however use the lights up to twice a day. So, if you miss a day, you can top up with two treatments, several hours apart the following day. Try to average 7 treatments a week.
Once your acne clears, as with benzoyl peroxide or antibiotics you need to keep using the lamp at least a few times a week.
Is it safe?None of these lamps produce dangerous amounts of ultraviolet. Scientific experiments indicate that neither blue nor red light causes cancer.
There is a report that some of the lamps might cause a slight tan in asian or mexican people. The fluorescent lamps produce
small amounts of UV-A (about the same amount per day as standing outside in the sun for 1 minute). If that's a concern, choose one of the non fluorescent lamps.
It is very important to keep the violet light out of your eyes. It's thought that normal blue light even in sunlight gradually damages the retina, so 100% protection against the blue light is essential. Closing your eyes is probably not sufficient. The lamps generally come with goggles, but at a pinch painting some swimming goggles or wrap them in aluminium foil would be good.
It's really expensive isn't it?No, it's cheaper than benzoyl peroxide including the washes and moisturisers you need to use for that.
Sure, if you were to go to a dermatologist to have blue/red treatment, then yes it's often really expensive.
But if you buy your lamp, it's reasonably cheap. If you add up the cost of BP, moisturisers and cleansers over a couple of years you will find it comes to more than the cost of the lamps, particularly the cheaper lamps.
Who has used it on Acne.org?Worked (i.e. >75% clearance):
biochembabe (Sci/art dichroic), wolfkeeper (dermalux), GTO, seamus (Sci/art dichroic), delboy, Locked In Grace, stanno(beautyskin), DeeAgony, Ronin (beautyskin), Rupert (dermalux)
At least some improvement (e.g. 50%):
don't look, timmytim, kanmi
Failed:
Posh, B24K, Le Chiffre (dermalux)
(Posh didn't follow the instructions correctly, and gave up early, but I've still counted it as a failure; B24K saw some improvement but not enough to justify further treatment).
Anything else I need to know?You can use it with most other treatments, except Accutane. It's important that you face is clean when you use it though. It may be a useful adjunct to tetracycline antibiotics- these antibiotics are 'bacteriostatic' in other words they don't kill the bacteria they just hold it at bay; whereas this treatment kills them. So the combination is likely to be a good one.
Overtreating:Some people with very sensitive skin seem to get a slight irritation/redness from their lights. This doesn't seem harmful, but indicates that they need to reduce the time. People that fail to reduce the time if this happens seem to get much less improvement. However even then the lights don't seem to be harmful- people have fallen asleep in front of their lamps for over an hour without anything really bad happening (i.e. no 'sunburn' or peeling,) but it's not a way to calm skin. Used sensibly blue/red light calms skin down and this seems to give less acne.
Particular products:
- I personally do not recommend buying a dermastyle pen; the beam is very narrow and the manufacturers make IMHO misleading claims as to its effectiveness (Chu's study says that it takes about 3 months to clear acne, NOT a few days- there is absolutely no evidence of any noticeable reduction in acne in his study results that quickly.) These blue/red light products largely
prevent new acne in a region, and that's difficult with a pen-size treatment. It might work if you only have acne in very, very limited regions; but the vast majority of people's acne isn't like that.
- Dermalux lamps work (they're the same as Dr. Chu's study). The Beautyskin is basically the same product, and uses essentially the same kind of bulbs. You can even swap the bulbs between the units.
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Today, 07:13 AM Last post by: LionQueen |
I was quoted $1,000 for 3 Fraxel treatments (cheeks only) at a good Dermatology Office in Irvine, CA. This comes out to about $333 per treatment. After researching this seems like a really good price.
I was also quoted for Fraxel + V Beam (cheeks only) $600 each treatment. Which would make the V Beam about $267 per treatment. It seems kinda pricey for just the cheeks to me.
I also asked how much additional to do my chin & I was quoted total $650.
I would just like to know if this is a good deal or if I should try to get it lower.
Thank you in advance for any & all suggestions!
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Yesterday, 09:48 PM Last post by: LadyWillow |
Hi there, just have a question. My son has been on Accutane for 3 months now. I have seen little improvement. He has quite bad acne. I was thinking of the Blue Light/ Levulan therapy. I was wondering if he could have the Levulan with his Accutane, or would he have to stop taking it? I have contacted our family doctor, but he doesn't know very much about the Levulan. Any info would be great. Thanks.
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Is Ipl the best treatment for red marks? i had 2 nlite sessions months ago and it did nothing i have since heard that nlite is for acne whereas ipl is for pigmentation problems, is this true? My red marks are extremely mild on one side of my face but the other side probably mildly moderate due to me having some harshers scars on that side of my face will IPL get rid of the redness? Also i like to have some stubble as it masks alot of the redness but would it be better to shave before a IPL sesion or would the laser get through the hair anyway? Thanks.
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5th January 2009 07:52 PM Last post by: just another1 |
I have a red/blue acnelamp. The goggles that come with it hurt my face because they are not very quality goggles. I read some posts on goggles, but wanted to check to see if anyone can give me suggestions of a website to buy a good pair of goggles that work.
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5th January 2009 03:04 PM Last post by: Angela is here. |
Hi all,
Just wanted to share with you my experience with Isolaz. This is my first post at this site, but I've been reading messages for over 1.5 years now...
First, some background on me. I'm 31 years old, and have had mild/moderate acne ever since about my frosh year of college. I never really cared that much, figuring it was a phase and that it would go away. Finally I got sick of it and started on Proactiv, which worked great for a few years.
Ever since then, I've constantly battled acne. I might go a week or two with clear skin, but then the stuff would always come back. Nothing too major, but enough to increasingly get on my nerves, the longer it stuck around. I'd always have blackheads around my t-zone (which I would tediously try and unplug as best I could every week or so), and a few whiteheads on my forehead, cheeks, chin, and under my chin. Another bad thing is that I'm a habitual picker, so if I ever saw a zit that was ready to pop, I'd go for it.
I've tried everything -- Murad, Neutrogrena, AcneFree, Botchla's regimen (Clean & Clear products), some stuff from Origins, a load of different moisturizers, jojoba oil, etc. None of it really made a difference. I'd either have super dry/very oily skin...in addition to the same or increased breakouts.
The past year has been particuarly stressful for me. My acne has gotten a bit worse, to the point where I don't even have a day of clear skin. And for some reason, I've become more and more depressed, anxious, and self-conscious about it, and how others perceive it. I even caved in and bought a combination concealer/healing sulfur base, which I'd use to cover up the bad spots every day. It was getting to the point where daily, I'd look at people and see their clear skin, and be thinking, "Gosh...if I had ONE wish, it would be to just have to not worry about my skin anymore."
Anyway, last week, I saw an ad for Isolaz on my local news channel. After doing a couple hours of research on my own, I decided to give it a go. I know treatments are pretty expensive ($150 - 300 a pop), but I figured I'd try one or two and see how it went. After all, I'd already spent tons of cash on all those other products, right? So I set up an appointment at Renu Medspa here in DC, a very reputable place, to have a session done on Saturday.
The technician I had wasn't awesome or anything, but she made me feel comfortable and was knowledgeable -- she gave me all the necessary information and answered all the questions I had pretty well. She went on to say that she had a number of patients and all of them had had great results using a combination therapy of Isolaz and a microdermabrasion + mild peel. I was hesitant at first, but figured what the heck. I'm there anyway, let's just do this.
The entire three-step process took about 45 minutes or so (about 15 mins each). I'd never had a microdermabrasion or a chemical peel before, but those were fine. The Isolaz itself was relatively pain-free, as well. I had a few sensitive spots where I'd feel a very brief "shock" of sorts, almost like a very quick burning feeling, but that was it. I was more scared about the reports of bruising of the skin, since I tend to bruise and get red spots on my face rather easily. In fact, very early on during the Isolaz treatment, my tech actually got up and brought over a physician's assistant, asking her if my reaction to the laser was normal! That freaked me out a bit, as I couldn't see my skin at that point. But the PA said that was totally normal and said everything was fine.
Anyway, after all of that, my tech applied some soothing balm & sunscreen and I was done. I was scared to look in the mirror, but it turns out I was freaked for nothing. My face looked fine -- just a little bit flushed overall and maybe in a few very small areas where there was a bit more redness. But honestly, it was nothing compared to what I had normally. And after an hour or two, a lot of that had faded after my face calmed down a bit.
So that was Saturday (4/5) morning. It is now Monday (4/7) afternoon, and I am happy to say that I have ZERO active pimples on my face. Nada, zilch! (Well, I actually have a small one on the side of my hairline, around my right temple, but since that's an area that the Isolaz didn't treat, that doesn't count.) Not only has Isolaz flattened the active pimples I had before my treatment (and I counted at least a few that were flaring up), but it has noticeably made my pores smaller -- especially in the t-zone where I get those constant blackheads. And best of all, my skin just FEELS good. It's not overly oily, as it would always get during the day.
Oh, also...the PA and the tech there recommended I go on Clenziderm, which is a pharmaceutical acne skin care line. It is similar to Proactiv in that it has three steps, but two are salycilic acid, and one is benzoyl peroxide. I've been using this the past couple of days since my treatment and it seems to be working well. It does smell kind of funky, and it leaves my face very tingly for an hour or so after I use it, but nothing really out of the ordinary.
I am cautiously optimistic at this point. I have another treatment in two weeks, so I plan to report back on how things are going. I know this is long and rambly, but I just thought it'd be useful for others who are considering this treatment. I know vpm and some others have written about it, so I thought I'd add my experience as I go through it.
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5th January 2009 02:01 PM Last post by: Mike M |
I recently purchased the Verilux Happyskin light at a good price. I used it a few days but the cover kept popping off with a loud noise and with my face 6 inches away it startled me. I'm afraid the cover will break so I have stopped using it until I can arrange for an exchange. Anyone else have mechanical problems with the physical light? I was very hopeful that it would work but have to admit I am skeptical.
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5th January 2009 01:58 PM Last post by: Mike M |
Hi, I am selling my blue/red light on ebay. Please don't erase this post (like healthboards did). I am just selling one light, as I no longer need it. Discovered my skin problems were due to food allergies and not bacteria. here is the link, you will need to first type in http://
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220338621508
This light will work for you if you've had success with solutions like proactiv and other benzoyl peroxide treatments for bacteria. If that doesn't work for you, then you probably have food allergies too! Try laying off of sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate.
Thank you,
Mike
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5th January 2009 12:46 PM Last post by: Auggiesmom |
Ok, I got the profractional laser done on my whole face over the weekend because of the scars I have from acne that I've had now for 10 years. i'm getting married this June, so I decided I needed to invest in something serious, and even though my fiance says that he can't even tell and that he thinks im beautiful blah blah blah. It's not about him. It's about me and the fact that I have struggled with this for a long time and I'm 24 years old and I'm finished with it!
So, before getting this done, I did a lot of research on it and wanted to hear people's stories when they got it done. I was nervous about this, because, well, it's my face! But I knew it would be fine. I was more nervous that I would look like a freak afterward, but actually, it really wasn't that bad. My face was pretty red right after, but after a few hours, you could barely tell. I went and babysat that night with no make up on or anything and no one looked at me funny or anything. The redness was completely gone by the next day and I went about my business without being paranoid.
So I guess the real test will be in the next few weeks to see what kind of an affect it has on the scars. I can see a little bit of a difference, but that might be my imagination. So I will post again to let who ever is thinking about doing this what kind of progress I'm having.
The doctor told me that if I want to get it done again that I needed to wait a month. So i'm thinking by then that hopefully I will see some sort of improvement.
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5th January 2009 12:38 PM Last post by: weruburight |
Hi,
So One of my Friends bought the TCA Lattte peel from ebay from that girl Julie. The problem is that my friend doesnt have the instructions and cannot give me any specs on how to apply.
Being that its my face that Im dealing with here, im too scared to just putting it on and wondering if im doing harm.
SO I AM BEGGIN for someone out there that has bought this product to help me with the instructions, maybe post what Julie ussually advises since I have emailed her and have not gotten any response
i tried googling for instructions and have already waisted 3 hours with no result.
On the ebay page it makes it seem like all u do is apply it at night and thats it.
1. do I just apply it and leave it on all night?
2. My friend also gave me a 2nd bottle (blue dropper bottle), should I apply it before or after or is this also TCA acid that should not be used with the LATTE?
3. If I should only apply the latte and then remove after a few mins, how many minutes is suggested?
Thanx Kindly for anyone out there that can help me with this!
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5th January 2009 10:04 AM Last post by: Rmuns |
Its a little device that uses red and blue light to improve acne. Below is the link. It looks interesting.
http://www.ansr.com/
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3rd January 2009 09:15 PM Last post by: =Kaori= |
My dad has been telling me look into laser treatments, or something that would help me my acne scars. I was at the mall a few days ago and saw pure med spa, and it looked really nice and professional. I looked it up online, and saw they actually had a variety of treatments for redness and scar treatments.
So I was basically wondering has anyone gotten any work done at pure med spa? Because I thought the fractional nonsurgical skin resurfacing looked interesting.
This is the description they provided :
"The Fractional Laser delivers a precise amount of light in an array of high precision microbeams. These microbeams create narrow, deep columns of tissue coagulation while sparing the surrounding tissue from damage.
The coagulated tissue within the columns initiates a natural healing process that accelerates the formation of new, healthy tissue. Coagulated cellular debris is expelled as the skin is resurfaced".
Pure Med Spa
So any info or reviews that you guys can provide would be wonderful.
Any suggestions or treatments you guys have tried for acne scarring that have worked for you?
THANKS.
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3rd January 2009 12:00 AM Last post by: ThreeDaysWasTheMorning |
I'm thinking of selling my Beautyskin lamp. This is a tough decision because the sucker cost me $300 and I know it's effective.
I bought it a year ago, stuck to the routine for 3 months plus a week or two, and then when I started seeing improvement, abruptly discontinued. (Of course.) It's been sitting in the original packaging all year, waiting for me to make a decision.
(In the interest of full disclosure, I should admit here that the real reason I'm selling this lamp is because I want to buy a $400 Roomba and I'm about $300 short. {I know. Shameless.} Otherwise I'd keep it and install a 2nd set of red lights to help with marks and scars later.)
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/Beauty-sk...71#entry2474771QUOTE
I saw some improvement after about 90 days but then things got kind of hectic and I fell out of the routine. You really have to stick to a schedule to see results with light treatment. No playing hooky.
I've not had a regular schedule for a long time and I'm kind of giving up on myself in that regard. I also have a lot of trouble with body acne, and I felt like a freak trying to stand in front of that thing so the light would hit me just right. (No shirt. Goggles. In the near-dark except for an eerie purple light. Standing on a phone book. Backwards. You get the picture.)
Went to the derm yesterday and just plunked down some more money on more (hopefully not?) useless pharmaceuticals that cause photosensitivity. I think it's best if this device goes to someone who needs it, especially since money is so tight right now and there's absolutely NO WAY at all to get the thing delivered for less than $300. I only used it for 90 days and it's in mint condition.
I didn't want to post it on eBay or craigslist without offering it here first, because I know members here do their homework and it's more likely to help someone from these boards than some random person on the Internet.
If you're looking for one of these lamps, send me a message. Even better, you can e-mail me at threedayswasthemorning at gmail, since I check that mail more frequently than here.
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2nd January 2009 10:30 PM Last post by: Jep |
Hello everyone, I am a newbie to this site, and instead of introducing myself on the "newbie page" I thought I should start a more useful post instead. I am a 22 year old male with mild to moderate acne condition who is looking for a solution to this never-ending problem. Through some web surfing, I saw the "DermaStyle Acne Light Treatment" advertised by a company called Lumiport. I have done a bit of research for this treatment online, and for the most part it seems like it worked for most of the buyers. Does anyone have any experience with this product at all? I am looking to purchase this, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! O and this is probably one of the most informative and beneficial website I have ever come across to, so lets use it and find a solution to this stupid acne problem

Nice to meet you guys!
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2nd January 2009 01:05 PM Last post by: korkow |
This is not me
[img]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d132/mboy1928/PIC-0452.jpg[/img]
this guy ended up with lazer scars trying to fix his pimple scars, this looks absolutely painful and totally not worth it.
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1st January 2009 06:02 PM Last post by: cooler |
hi , i wonder if its good or bad the intake of Vit C / E before, Laser Peel and after
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1st January 2009 12:03 PM Last post by: hina79 |
I have read good things about this and planning to get it done soon. I live in Milton Keynes, BDS, UK so if anyone knows a good doctor here or nearby, please do recommend.
The thing that impressed me about this treatment is that it is supposed to shrink sebaceous glands and so you produce less oil. I have very oily skin and most of my acne is on my cheeks, check out my gallery for pics. I am 29 and have had this since teenage. I believe if my skin produced less oil, it would definitely eliminate acne.
Does anyone have good/bad experiences with this treatment?
Thanks!
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30th December 2008 02:40 AM Last post by: BlueHappy |
i have two blue 415nm enlux lights for sale or trade.
90 dollars each shipped within the US or i will trade one for a red enlux..
i bought the lights one month ago and they work great. the reason why im selling is because i bought 3 lights to get an intense treatment.. now i just need one to maintain.
if anyone has a red enlux 640nm i will trade it even.
THE LIGHTS HAVE A LIFETIME WARRANTY!
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29th December 2008 10:46 PM Last post by: RoykNoize |
All my info about it and pics are in this topic
www.acne.org/messageboard/rid-severe-acne-l-t220964.html
I want the most effective thing and please include the average price. I only know of laser removal and I would like to do that if I can get rid of this stuff after 3 years. Even if it could get rif of about 50 percent of the problem I will still be happy.
Please help me.
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27th December 2008 01:51 PM Last post by: Zenner |
i'm not sure what i should look for in laser treatments, dermabrasion, or chemical peels. i have lightly tan asian skin (korean). scarring isn't very serious, the blemishes are mostly due to hyperpigmentation from accutane course.
thanks for your input.
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26th December 2008 02:35 PM Last post by: Stubborn |
I just had my first treatment from a new acne laser called Isolaz. Already my acne is clearing up. I was suffering from cystic acne in my jaw area. I am told that I will need a few treatments until it is all gone, but the changes already are unbelieveable !! I'm so happy !
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24th December 2008 01:29 PM Last post by: PimpleOnMyPenis |
Just wanted to share my thoughts/experience on this Medlite procedure!
I have been having terrible breakouts this past 2 weeks which left bad embarrassing blemishes which I haven't had in a really long time!
So I went in for a Medlite which was quick and easy and to my surprise, a lot cheaper than before, it cost me $75 compared to $150, I'm guessing maybe the ailing economy might have something to do with it, but w/e.
Anyways, I had it done yesterday, and I see really good positive result today. I will go back in 6-8 days for another session and will continue to do so maybe the next 3-4 weeks. I want to have my face under control before my Accutane treatment next month!
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24th December 2008 12:00 PM Last post by: Stubborn |
Hi guys! I just discovered this web site, and it's one of the reasons I decided on trying the Isolaz treatments. I found this place in the San Fernando Valley in California that does the treatments for $180.00 per treatment. This is the cheapest price I have found! Also, they have packages of 3 treatments for a 10% discount. The best part is that all treatments are performed by a physician. I made an appointment for a consultation on 6-30-08. Hopefully I will have my first treatment that same day and I will post the results. I can't wait!
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23rd December 2008 07:14 PM Last post by: timmoore |
any place to buy levulan or compounded version online(without prescrption) so i can use my omnliux clear u to device to activate it
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22nd December 2008 07:40 PM Last post by: peace09 |
Hey,
I'm 35 years and had the occasional spot from 12 until 19, when I developed hormonal acne, which out smarted topical and oral antibiotics, the pill, dairy free diet, organic diet, microderm, acid peels etc. Finally 18 months ago, I started using Spiro, since then I have had no active acne.
Today, I had pixel. Apart from acne, at age 35 I'm starting to wrinkle and sag, and I have a pigment on my forehead due to the pill.
Lets see what Pixel can do....
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22nd December 2008 07:14 PM Last post by: peace09 |
QUOTE (Nightlynx @ Aug 10 2008, 05:28 PM)

I just received my 415nm blue light. I did not buy the hybrid because the wavelength of the red light seemed to low.
I started a thread on my progress. Just used it the first time today. here is the thread, i will try to keep it updated to let people know the progress.
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22nd December 2008 02:52 AM Last post by: paula4390 |
I wanted to write about my experience with PDT. When I was starting my research about this treatment I didn't find a lot of personal experience and that's what I was most interested in... thus the reason I writing about my experienc.
I'll start off with a little background. I'm 35 years old and had my 1st child 15 months ago. I've never had flawless skin but it was something I've been able to keep mostly under control with birth control pill - usually had 1 or 2 pimples on my face at any given time. I've only had two times in my life so far when I've had really bad skin - acne during my first year of university and I used accutane that work wonderfully; and when I went off the pill for a while when I was 26. It's obvious in my case that hormones play a big part in my acne. After I gave birth to my daughter my skin was beautiful for the first few months. I noticed that as I slowly cut back in the amount of breastfeeding I was doing that my skin was progressively getting worse. Finally when I was down to only 1-2 feedings a day I realized that I had painful and unsightly cystic type acne. I've found it devastating on my self esteem and I've had little desire to socialize or even leave my house. I was in constant pain and my face was really beginning to scar.
Finally I came upon the PTD/Levulan treatment. I had a consultation with the Clinic. It went well but I was told that I couldn't start the treatment until after I've finished breastfeeding. On a positive note I also discovered that this treatment was completely covered with extended medical care (in British Columbia, Canada) so I didn't have to pay anything. The actual price was $275/treatment - which I just found out the price has now gone up to $375/treatment.
Three long months after my consultation I finally managed to wean my daughter and made an appointment immediately. I also went to my family doctor and he put me back on the birth control pill - Yasmin. I was nervous about the treatment but optimistic that I was doing something that would help me feel better in the long run. During my first appointment I went into the treatment room. First they washed my face, then cleaned it with Acetone which doesn't hurt at all - just smells really bad. Then they put the Levulan on my face - covering my entire face with it 2 times. It was a bit itchy as it dried but that was it. I sat with it on my face for 30 mins. and didn't feel anything. Then I put on the goggles and went under the blue light for 8 mins. Again I didn't feel anything. After the treatment they washed off the Levulan and then put a creamy sunscreen on. After I got home I still felt nothing and had no redness. After another 24 hours still nothing had happened - not even dry skin. I called the Clinic. They said this isn't normal and they'd look into it. A few days later they had 3 other patients who had no reaction either. Guess what... IT WAS A BAD BATCH!!!! After all that worrying and anxiety it was a bad batch. I had to wait 2 more weeks until they got a new supply of Levulan.
Finally I managed to go again today. Wow, what a different experience. After they put the Levulan on this time I immediately noticed a warm, tingling, slight stinging feeling. I felt like I had a mild sunburn before I even went under the light. When I did go under the light I felt the effects immediately. I wouldn't really say it was painful but it was definitely uncomfortable and I was completely ready to come out after the 8 mins. were up. I was pink and my skin was very sensitive. Since I've been home my skin still feels really, really sensitive and quite pink, although I haven't had the extreme red sunburn reaction I heard others have.
I will continue to update this as I continue through the other 2 treatments. Thanks to all that have gone before me and for sharing their experience so that others could try to make informed decisions.
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22nd December 2008 02:48 AM Last post by: paula4390 |
Hi all,
I was watching the news yesterday and saw a report on this new treatment given by a surgeon. It's called ALA Photodynamic Light Therapy. This guy had severe acne had already been on the antibiotics and accutane and it still came back.
Now, i'm on accutane right now, so don't think i'm just putting stuff out there, but the results were nothing close to a miracle. I'm sooo serious.
His face was covered with lesions (I didn't see cystic though) but it was still very severe. After 3 treatments and 1 and a half months, he was completely clear. THat is astonishing. The redness was gone, everything. I've never seen anything like it in my life. Now, i'm on 1 1/2 months of accutane right now and I still have a couple of lesions and redness but what I saw is amazing.
The procedure costs 1000 bucks and has a 90% success rate!!! That's higher than the tane. The acne goes away for 1-2 years sometimes permanently. Sound familiar? But, nevertheless, it's not as invasive as accutane in that it doesn't affect your whole body and I would have to say the results are even better, from seeing this guy. Unbelievable.
We have some more hope people!!!
The Dr. that is performing this therapy resides in Toronto. (I saw the news over Satellite as i'm in the States. But, nevertheless, there should be docs performing this all over right?
Let me know what you think.
Oh, i'll be posting on my 2 month progress soon

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22nd December 2008 02:48 AM Last post by: skipdill |
Hey, all. I had no idea there was such an interest in cold lasers!
Here's where I ordered my Son's equipment (http://coldlasertherapy.us). I bought it myself because I didn't consider going through insurance or anything, but I'm glad I went through with it!
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22nd December 2008 02:32 AM Last post by: paula4390 |
I just had this down 2 days ago for Melasma and acne scras (slight grroves, opcks in my skin, mostly in the cheek area).
Has anyone else had this done or with any other non-ablative laser?
It's been 2 days, my face is still a bit swollen and very blotchy/red.
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