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Sep 12 2006, 11:08 AM
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You could just try this for a week or so and if you don't like the results you can always switch to the CSR.
I am experimenting with this, I haven't take a shower in over 48 hours and some of my pimples that were forming came to a head, but I haven't seen any new ones yet. I hate the way my skin feels so oily but it really looks alot healthier, so I am gonna stick with it and see what happens. |
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Sep 26 2006, 08:15 PM
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Problem is, sometimes it'll improve in 48 hours...then get much worse in the long run.
I would use Benzoyl Peroxide while not washing my face (which is what I've been doing for about a year now). |
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Sep 26 2006, 09:34 PM
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Andre Group: Members Joined: 6-July 06 |
I was wondering if you guys prefered using cold or warm to hot water? Which is better?
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Sep 27 2006, 06:02 PM
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Cold water
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Sep 27 2006, 06:25 PM
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Yeah cold water seems to be better.
Woa I just cam across this and it's definitely radical. To not do anything? I can't help being sceptical. Is there anyone else that has tried this and it worked for them? Acnefree helped me quite a bit, but I still have random crap that comes up. I'm not going to eat crap like cake and sweets because I don't want to do that anyway, but not wasing my face for 2 days is like freaking going against all my logic. lol I think there might just be too many veriables. But good call on the milk. You should drink soy instead. |
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Sep 27 2006, 09:12 PM
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you shaved your dog?
what?
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Sep 27 2006, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(wasting_days_away @ Sep 27 2006, 11:12 PM) [snapback]1385809[/snapback] you shaved your dog? what? ???????????????????? |
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Sep 28 2006, 01:47 AM
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QUOTE(The Jack @ Jan 5 2005, 04:43 PM) [snapback]444118[/snapback] I have often though about why do nothing works pretty well, and my layman’s opinion is this: The world we live in is a giant petri dish of growing organisms. There are a lot of things that live on our bodies and on our food besides just the things we see there. We have a symbiotic relationship with certain micro-organisms that protect us. I think that over washing your face, reduces the quantity of beneficial micro-organisms to an unhealthy level, and that p-acnes fills the empty niche. I think that washing your face with cleanser more than twice a week is very bad for some people. i am starting to believe this as well. for the last 4 days ive been doing nothing and my skin is doing better then it was when i used tretinoin during the day and bp at night. so now i will continue to do nothing but wash with cetaphil and use my acnelamp. i think that bp might upset the whole natural flora of the skin and make your a cne "different" like giving you cysts and making it more severe. we will see what happens. surprisingly my face is drier then it ever was as well but this might have something to do with the dry weather and very little humidity in the air.
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How is health defined?? So that it can be measured?? objectively or subjectively?? #1. Desirable physiological states(positive moods/emotions)This is measured subjectively, only you know what you feel, or do you?? #2 Absorption of nutrients/phytochemicals, get RDA #3 Excretion of waste products in an efficient manner, so waste is not reabsorbed, avoiding constipation. #4 sunlight #5 darkness #6 combo of 2&3 probiotics are the key to absorption excretion 2 major factors of whole body health. Only necessary supplements are magnesium and vitamin d3 @1000 iu at least per day, 10,000 iu at most, calcium and phosphorous need vitamin d3 to be absorbed with ease. Potassium RDA is 4700 mg per day, is also sometimes tough to get unless you eat a lot of fruit and veggies. If you are breaking out try removing fructose and dairy and take chewable calcium CITRATE supplements and get phosphorous from eggs. Avoid calcium carbonate, it can only be absorbed with a meal with stomach acid present, as citrate can be eaten on an empty stomach and absorbed much better. |
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Sep 28 2006, 02:10 AM
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![]() Senior Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 30-June 06 From: milwaukee, WI |
what if some acne cases start out as a just a minor vitamin deficiency?
but we try topicals first and then its helps breifly then acne gets worse cause we never fixed the vitamin deficiency and on top of that weve disrupted the microflora in our skin and now our acne is worse and we think we have serious acne. to be truly holistic then you would have to stop all topicals and give your body everything it needs. what if all we need is 6 months of vitamin a therapy like accutane, cause thats all accutane is any way(vitamin a that has been metabolised by the body) it is not a drug it is a vitamin derivitave. drug companies did not create it, they just patented the process for making it synthetically. 13- cis retinoic acid is made in the human body. it is not a drug. but i dont know how to define drug. wild idea but whether it is true or not is yet to be determined. what do you all think?
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How is health defined?? So that it can be measured?? objectively or subjectively?? #1. Desirable physiological states(positive moods/emotions)This is measured subjectively, only you know what you feel, or do you?? #2 Absorption of nutrients/phytochemicals, get RDA #3 Excretion of waste products in an efficient manner, so waste is not reabsorbed, avoiding constipation. #4 sunlight #5 darkness #6 combo of 2&3 probiotics are the key to absorption excretion 2 major factors of whole body health. Only necessary supplements are magnesium and vitamin d3 @1000 iu at least per day, 10,000 iu at most, calcium and phosphorous need vitamin d3 to be absorbed with ease. Potassium RDA is 4700 mg per day, is also sometimes tough to get unless you eat a lot of fruit and veggies. If you are breaking out try removing fructose and dairy and take chewable calcium CITRATE supplements and get phosphorous from eggs. Avoid calcium carbonate, it can only be absorbed with a meal with stomach acid present, as citrate can be eaten on an empty stomach and absorbed much better. |
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Sep 28 2006, 02:26 AM
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Right that's a good theory and probobly partially true but then that wouldn't explain the relathionship between hormones and acne. As in too much testestorone causes it or why it would usually subside once someone gets older.
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Sep 28 2006, 11:45 AM
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![]() Senior Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 30-June 06 From: milwaukee, WI |
thought about it for a while and it actually wouldnt explain the acne on my back.i never use anything on my back.
i think i may be clearing mainly because of a drop in the humidity levels.with a partial credit to the do nothing regimen. bacteria thrive in high heat and humidity. anyone in the northern usa/canada experiancing clearer skin these days?
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How is health defined?? So that it can be measured?? objectively or subjectively?? #1. Desirable physiological states(positive moods/emotions)This is measured subjectively, only you know what you feel, or do you?? #2 Absorption of nutrients/phytochemicals, get RDA #3 Excretion of waste products in an efficient manner, so waste is not reabsorbed, avoiding constipation. #4 sunlight #5 darkness #6 combo of 2&3 probiotics are the key to absorption excretion 2 major factors of whole body health. Only necessary supplements are magnesium and vitamin d3 @1000 iu at least per day, 10,000 iu at most, calcium and phosphorous need vitamin d3 to be absorbed with ease. Potassium RDA is 4700 mg per day, is also sometimes tough to get unless you eat a lot of fruit and veggies. If you are breaking out try removing fructose and dairy and take chewable calcium CITRATE supplements and get phosphorous from eggs. Avoid calcium carbonate, it can only be absorbed with a meal with stomach acid present, as citrate can be eaten on an empty stomach and absorbed much better. |
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Sep 28 2006, 12:20 PM
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If you sleep in a cold room I think it reduces the number of pimples that form by the time you wake up(at least from my experience).
Anyway, I think this theory has something to it. You never know if applying those soaps etc. are hurting or helping. One thing I remember from high school is, a lot of people who I would say had poor hygiene(they didn't brush or shower for weeks) didn't have any skin problems it seemed. It was almost always the clean person who had skin problems. It's probably more "natural" to just wash your face off with water, rather than soaps etc. I'm sure one of the 20-30 chemicals in various washes is going to just get absorbed into the skin and cause more problems down the road (like shampoo http://www.newstarget.com/003210.html. Anyway, I'm going to stay away from all that shit as it probably just kills you long term. You never know what the medical/pharmaceutical industries agenda is (seems like they want to get / keep people sick so they can treat them magically with wonder-drugs). Going to give up shampoo too imo |
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Sep 28 2006, 04:57 PM
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Andre Group: Members Joined: 6-July 06 |
I was wondering if anyone applied moisurizer after washing with water? If so what kind?
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Sep 28 2006, 08:00 PM
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You know what? Now that I think more about it I think this is bs.
Why? Because I wash my forehead the most, sometimes using a pad on just my forhead between washing it. (so a total of 3 times a day) and I haven't seen a zit on my forehead in a really long time. It's pretty much clear. But I do get some under my chin and jaw line, where I never really wash with any topicals. Explain that in relation to this "do nothing" regime. |
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Sep 28 2006, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(pharaoh123 @ Sep 28 2006, 09:00 PM) [snapback]1387923[/snapback] You know what? Now that I think more about it I think this is bs. Why? Because I wash my forehead the most, sometimes using a pad on just my forhead between washing it. (so a total of 3 times a day) and I haven't seen a zit on my forehead in a really long time. It's pretty much clear. But I do get some under my chin and jaw line, where I never really wash with any topicals. Explain that in relation to this "do nothing" regime. the way i understand it, its the topicals that are doing the most upsetting of the skin flora not the fact you are washing with regular soap, unless its antibacterial. i would suspect a mild facial cleanser would be ideal. another thing to consider is the fact p.acnes lives in a sebum rich environment, maybe the flora on your forehead is different then that of your chin. now that i think of it sebaceous glands exist all over your body, if acnes is supposed to be mainly because of sebum then why wouldnt you have it all over your body? acne never makes sense to me.
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How is health defined?? So that it can be measured?? objectively or subjectively?? #1. Desirable physiological states(positive moods/emotions)This is measured subjectively, only you know what you feel, or do you?? #2 Absorption of nutrients/phytochemicals, get RDA #3 Excretion of waste products in an efficient manner, so waste is not reabsorbed, avoiding constipation. #4 sunlight #5 darkness #6 combo of 2&3 probiotics are the key to absorption excretion 2 major factors of whole body health. Only necessary supplements are magnesium and vitamin d3 @1000 iu at least per day, 10,000 iu at most, calcium and phosphorous need vitamin d3 to be absorbed with ease. Potassium RDA is 4700 mg per day, is also sometimes tough to get unless you eat a lot of fruit and veggies. If you are breaking out try removing fructose and dairy and take chewable calcium CITRATE supplements and get phosphorous from eggs. Avoid calcium carbonate, it can only be absorbed with a meal with stomach acid present, as citrate can be eaten on an empty stomach and absorbed much better. |
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Sep 29 2006, 03:18 AM
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QUOTE(AutonomousOne1980 @ Sep 28 2006, 08:23 PM) [snapback]1388287[/snapback] QUOTE(pharaoh123 @ Sep 28 2006, 09:00 PM) [snapback]1387923[/snapback] You know what? Now that I think more about it I think this is bs. Why? Because I wash my forehead the most, sometimes using a pad on just my forhead between washing it. (so a total of 3 times a day) and I haven't seen a zit on my forehead in a really long time. It's pretty much clear. But I do get some under my chin and jaw line, where I never really wash with any topicals. Explain that in relation to this "do nothing" regime. the way i understand it, its the topicals that are doing the most upsetting of the skin flora not the fact you are washing with regular soap, unless its antibacterial. i would suspect a mild facial cleanser would be ideal. another thing to consider is the fact p.acnes lives in a sebum rich environment, maybe the flora on your forehead is different then that of your chin. now that i think of it sebaceous glands exist all over your body, if acnes is supposed to be mainly because of sebum then why wouldnt you have it all over your body? acne never makes sense to me.
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Sep 29 2006, 05:29 PM
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![]() Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 17-July 06 From: California |
Well I'm sold. THis experiment makes sense (at least enough to try) and plus it's cheap! Plus thinking about the 2 people I know with the absolute clearest skin, one is a guy and the other a girl, they both have one thing in common and that is they don't shower everyday.
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morning/night: warm water, cold water to close pores makeup (sometimes): CoverGirl pressed powder, remove with Zum Bar goat's milk soap history: Proactiv for 4 years, CSR for 1 month, new to less chemicals (since 10/1/06) current status: http://www.acne.org/messageboard/Experiment-Long-t28639.html http://www.acne.org/messageboard/light-us-t40303.html |
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Dec 25 2006, 05:20 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 21-December 06 From: Chicago |
bringing this thread back from the dead...because it's a pretty good one. I tried doing this a couple of weeks ago and my skin is steadily improving. Anybody have any experience with shaving while on a water only regimen? If so, what do you use? I tried using a gillette mach 3 but it tears my face up so i'm buying an electric panasonic one for quite a bit of money, is there an easier/better way?
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Regimen- CSR Face Wash Complex 15 Moisturizer Using acne diets about once or twice every two weeks Status- 100% Clear (no oily face either!) |
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Dec 25 2006, 10:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Joined: 3-February 05 From: Toronto |
I've been using nothing but water for like half a year now...initially for like the first week you see that your face gets really dry (but this is me, 1 quik shower in the morning and a long one at night)...after the first week, you see that your face looks very healthy...you get less acne and you dont waste all that time moisturizing. At this point my face is really clear, just some scarring and some pimples rarely.
If ppl are like me (oily skin, big pores), this method helps a whole lot. I even devised a plan to rinse my face every 6 hours, if I dont..I just know that I get a pimple or 2. However, this just means splashing water on my face and drying with a towel. Currently this is my routine: - Eat Healthy - Luke warm water to take away oil, cold water to shut pores Morning: splash face with water and dry with towel, wash hair Mid-day: splash water on face and dry Night: Shower, shaving every 3 days in the shower after pores are open from hot water Since I've had acne for like 6 years now (started in grade 9)...I've set a goal for perfection, ppl say my skin is clear but for ppl who had acne for a long time...they are very judgemental of themselves. I still have acne but my skin is like 80% cured because of eating healthy and washing my face only with water. From now on Im gonna try and wash my face less and less to see if this experiment is truly successful. But if ppl are in the diet portion of this board...I suggest stopping whatever your applying topically...ur diet is enuf to allow u to only use water and still get great skin. |
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Dec 25 2006, 11:34 PM
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does this really work?
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