Hey Maya...I ordered one too. I had been looking at the one made by Dr. Des Fernandez but this one looks awesome considering the price.

I think this will be a good addition to my skin care regimen; and it's very cheap!

Denise - yes, this one is dirt cheap compared to the Environ one. Having read an article about this, the guy who invented the dermaroller was also the same guy who was a partner with Des Fernandes some time ago, but they had some disagreement and went their seperate ways.

I guess that Environ are using Des Fernandes's name.. and bumping up their price.

This, added to all the other topicals, should be cool to use!

This device sounds interesting. Does anyone know if it helps improve orange peel texture?

thanks

Do you use this once a day or twice a day? :-k

*Misty

amimegirle: Probably once a day since it can be a little irritating to the skin.

I received mine today (took 9 days) and will start using it tonight - before applying copper peptide serum and moisteriser.

Will report back.

OK - just tried it out - ouch!! hehe - but it was a good kind of ouch (no pain, no gain?) A little stinging took place - I did overdo it though (in my excitement) - the instructions on the web site said 3 passes... I must've done 10! LOL!

:lol: :lol:

Maya, i hope it will work dermaroller . i am thinking of buying this, too. if you say it worths to buy :-k

Does anyone have any further information on the acne dermaroller? :-k (The one that is available to Drs only?) I guess I am wondering what the main diff is between the one that we can buy and the Drs only one. :-s Thanks!
*Misty

Bluerain - I think it is worth buying - I can see how it will work for shallow scarring. There are these tiny needles all over, not enough to piece the skin, but enough to cause some light penetration - so if you then apply scar healing topicals, they should enter the skin much better.

My face was a little pink today, but nothing that would cause concern - and a little powder covered it up anyway.


animegirle - the dermaroller is not for acne. The doctors one has much bigger needles that will perforate the skin and therefore be similar to a tatoo gun.

Maya, i still continue needling. dermaroller and needling will be at the same time or that makes skin wear?

bluerain - I think it's probably better to do the dermaroller 2 weeks after needling - but you can do that everyday to improve the collagen and make things like retin-a or copper peptides penetrate deeper.

Can you get retin-a where you are?

Maya, i didnt use retin-a or copper peptide after needling. i am just using vit a cream, helena rubinstein collagenist cream.
can i get them from pharmacy ? or still continue use collagen cream ?

I suggest you use the retin-a after and before needling - and then 2 weeks after the needling, use the dermaroller everynight and then apply retin-a cream.

I can get some retin-a gel.05 for free if you are hard up for cash (I've got some spare lurking around) - send me a PM with your address if that's the case.

well I have ordered this product but I'm a little scared. Tiny holes all over my skin.

Does it hurt A LOT?

user - no, it doesn't hurt that much - maybe I was being a little dramatic in my earlier posts

You can do very light passes or really go for it (I am the go for it type!)

What I did last night was this - patted face with diluted vinegar - used the dermaroller in all directions over my face, going over my cheek and forehead area (where my main scars are) many times. Then I put on retin-a (I only use .25), waited 20 minutes, then put on copper peptide serum followed by a mix of jojoba and emu oil.

I looked pink before I went to bed, but my face looks good this morning - it's too early to make comments on the success etc.. but I like the science behind doing this.

I thought CP was meant to go under retin-a? my retin-a gel (isotrex) forms a kinda seal over my face. I was gonna put CP under retin-a when my CP eventually arrives from homepeels, is this wrong?

user - I suppose you could do that - I find retin-a a little irritating, so applying the CP serum after seems to help soothe it.

Maya, from where did you order dermaroller?
dermaroller.de
lipoxidil.com