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Apr 25 2006, 08:55 AM
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I got a PM from someone who was confused about whether AHA was a required element of the regimen. It is not. I love Eucerin Skin Renewal, which contains lactic acid--a very mild AHA, but AHA is not at all required. In fact, glycolic acid, which is the usual form of AHA, is usually too much for people when they're first starting out on the regimen.
I have been trying lots of samples of moisturizers from various manufacturers in an attempt to make a replacement moisturizer myself, and have found that AHA is not required for adequate moisturization. However, the various manufacturers who have been scurrying to make us a moisturizer have not hit on something that's as good as Eucerin yet. Some of the samples I've tried are too stinky, some are too thick, and some leave my face too tight. Therefore, to prevent severe flakiness in some people, I recommend the addition of AHA as discussed at http://www.acne.org/aha.html for the time being. I'm going to try KissMyFace moisturizer as soon as I can get some and see what that's like. Since Eucerin was discontinued from Drugstore.com and I still haven't gotten my manufacturers to make the perfect replacement, we're gonna have to try some new ones 'til we find a good solution. In the meantime, if your skin gets super dry with whatever other moisturizer you're using, the addition of AHA might help, but is in no way required. |
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Apr 25 2006, 09:02 AM
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![]() Justa Happy Guy Group: Veteran Members Joined: 2-November 05 From: BC Canada |
Good thing the winter months are over and dryness will be much less of a problem for the next few months. Hopefully it'll give you the time you need. Good luck, Dan.
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Apr 25 2006, 01:56 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 29-October 05 |
QUOTE(Dan @ Apr 25 2006, 10:55 AM) [snapback]1103089[/snapback] I got a PM from someone who was confused about whether AHA was a required element of the regimen. It is not. I love Eucerin Skin Renewal, which contains lactic acid--a very mild AHA, but AHA is not at all required. In fact, glycolic acid, which is the usual form of AHA, is usually too much for people when they're first starting out on the regimen. I have been trying lots of samples of moisturizers from various manufacturers in an attempt to make a replacement moisturizer myself, and have found that AHA is not required for adequate moisturization. However, the various manufacturers who have been scurrying to make us a moisturizer have not hit on something that's as good as Eucerin yet. Some of the samples I've tried are too stinky, some are too thick, and some leave my face too tight. Therefore, to prevent severe flakiness in some people, I recommend the addition of AHA as discussed at http://www.acne.org/aha.html for the time being. I'm going to try KissMyFace moisturizer as soon as I can get some and see what that's like. Since Eucerin was discontinued from Drugstore.com and I still haven't gotten my manufacturers to make the perfect replacement, we're gonna have to try some new ones 'til we find a good solution. In the meantime, if your skin gets super dry with whatever other moisturizer you're using, the addition of AHA might help, but is in no way required. What about Eucerin Extra Protective Moisture Lotion, SPF 30? Is that their replacement for the d/c one? It also has AHA. |
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Apr 25 2006, 02:35 PM
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![]() Certified []D[][]V[][]D Group: Veteran Members Joined: 18-April 06 From: Richmond, VA |
Or what about this?
http://www.acnedoctor.com/moisture_lotion_beta_lipo.html It's SPF15, non-comedogenic, and also has AHA (lactic acid). I've never tried it but the ingredients look similar.
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Apr 25 2006, 03:48 PM
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Regimen user since 2005 Group: Regimen Assistance Joined: 27-February 05 From: USA |
that product ^ is loaded with oils! I'd not use it at all.
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Apr 26 2006, 01:00 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 20-March 06 |
QUOTE(Dan @ Apr 25 2006, 08:55 AM) [snapback]1103089[/snapback] I got a PM from someone who was confused about whether AHA was a required element of the regimen. It is not. I love Eucerin Skin Renewal, which contains lactic acid--a very mild AHA, but AHA is not at all required. In fact, glycolic acid, which is the usual form of AHA, is usually too much for people when they're first starting out on the regimen. I have been trying lots of samples of moisturizers from various manufacturers in an attempt to make a replacement moisturizer myself, and have found that AHA is not required for adequate moisturization. However, the various manufacturers who have been scurrying to make us a moisturizer have not hit on something that's as good as Eucerin yet. Some of the samples I've tried are too stinky, some are too thick, and some leave my face too tight. Therefore, to prevent severe flakiness in some people, I recommend the addition of AHA as discussed at http://www.acne.org/aha.html for the time being. I'm going to try KissMyFace moisturizer as soon as I can get some and see what that's like. Since Eucerin was discontinued from Drugstore.com and I still haven't gotten my manufacturers to make the perfect replacement, we're gonna have to try some new ones 'til we find a good solution. In the meantime, if your skin gets super dry with whatever other moisturizer you're using, the addition of AHA might help, but is in no way required. Don't use Kiss My Face whatever you do!! It has a ton of oil in it, it is comedogenic (and doesn't even claim not to be). The second ingredient is Isopropyl Palmitate which is extremely comedogenic (along with many of the other ingredients in it). I use it on my hands, but it won't touch my face. Seems like a lot of people like Neutrogena Healthy Skin w/ AHA. Why do you not recommend that one? |
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Apr 26 2006, 08:27 AM
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Regimen user since 2005 Group: Regimen Assistance Joined: 27-February 05 From: USA |
Kiss My Face Alpha and Aloe is oil-free
http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp...BUY-PLST-0-SRCH ^ This product contains 5% AHA according to the product description. Neutrogena Healthy Skin face lotion contains either 7 or 8% (I can't remember specifically) and it is a fairly strong product. Even when I talk to people about trying it out to help with hyperpigmentation, I recommend using only a very small amount and only once a day or every other day. It is typically too strong for twice daily usage.
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Apr 26 2006, 08:32 AM
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![]() Justa Happy Guy Group: Veteran Members Joined: 2-November 05 From: BC Canada |
That moisturizer actually looks, good, really good. How come companies just state AHA instead of telling us which AHA it is? I know 12% lactic acid is much more gentle on my skin than 8% glycolic acid, so it's quite important to know which it is.
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Apr 26 2006, 09:11 AM
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I couldn't find the KissMyFace but I did find the Neutrogena Healthy Face, and the Eucerin Extra Protective. So, I tried the Healthy Face last night and it's a tiny bottle for like $13 and has way too much scent in it. But I'll use it a few times and see if it moisturizes well enough. I'll also try the Extra Protective Eucerin and see how that goes. I'm also supposed to get the latest sample of a moisturizer from a new manufactuer this morning via FedEx. So fingers crossed on that. I'll keep you guys posted.
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Apr 26 2006, 09:30 AM
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Regimen user since 2005 Group: Regimen Assistance Joined: 27-February 05 From: USA |
yea, I agree, the scent of the Neutrogena Healthy Skin is what kept me from using it for very long, I just could not stand the fragrance, and I could smell it all day long! lol.
I have also tried the Eucerin Extra Protective lotion and found it was white and did not rub in well at all, it just stayed white on my skin! But, that was also when I was still using Neutrogena On-the-Spot, so it might work better with the CSR gel. And even though Eucerin Extra Protective lotion says "oil-free" on the lable, it has castor oil in the ingredients list!
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Apr 26 2006, 09:58 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 20-March 06 |
Kiss My Face Alpha and Aloe IS COMEDOGENIC.
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Apr 26 2006, 05:55 PM
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Well, I tried the latest sample from another manufacturer today, and once again it wasn't quite right. That's sample #16 that I've tried. Incredible. So they're redoing it yet again, as is another manufacturer. In the meantime, let's keep trying different stuff to find something good. I'm going to try the Extra Protective Eucerin tonight and I'll let you know what I think of it tomorrow.
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Apr 26 2006, 10:01 PM
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![]() Justa Happy Guy Group: Veteran Members Joined: 2-November 05 From: BC Canada |
I emailed the customer service person at the Kiss My Face website, asking what AHA they used in that moisturizer and whether or not it was non-comedogenic. Depending on the answer I'll go down to the local health food store because I know they sell it there and I'll try it out. I think I'll be fine for quite a few months anyway with my 3 bottles of Eucerin.
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Apr 26 2006, 10:18 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 24-January 06 |
QUOTE(SuperFly @ Apr 25 2006, 10:02 AM) [snapback]1103101[/snapback] Good thing the winter months are over and dryness will be much less of a problem for the next few months. Hopefully it'll give you the time you need. Good luck, Dan. My dryness has gotten worse since winter ended. And I'm clear now and using less bp than I was then. |
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Apr 27 2006, 04:19 AM
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![]() Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 24-April 06 From: London |
Are eucerin products in short supply??
I saw loads at my local boots in UK |
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Apr 27 2006, 10:24 AM
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I tried the Eucerin Extra Protective. Wow, it was bad, at least with BP. lol. It stayed on my skin and white. I couldn't get it absorbed. Then I woke up this morning and was really dry. So...that's a serious no go. I'm going to try the Complex15 again today. I liked it the last 2 times I tried it. ho dee hum. Anybody else have suggestions on good moisturizers?
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Apr 27 2006, 10:28 AM
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![]() Veteran Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 26-December 05 From: UK |
Well if your willing to import from the UK Eucerin dry skin relief face cream with 5% urea if great and contain AHA, I don't think theres any plans to discontinue it any time soon either. Its available at www.boots.com I think its avilable in Canada too so maybe it would be cheaper to import from there
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Started 20-12-2005 My regimen (Once a day at night, as I only have very mild acne): Simple Cleansing Wipes CSR BP gel Eucerin Dry Skin Relief Face Cream Members of the super sexy Acne.orgy pile- Raleigh, BFGUITAR, Beanz, Calibos, Coughdrop, Donkey, Beejay, Posh, Janiet53, Erniemccrazyface, Intoxifornication, Ronaldo, Realist, Mask, Femina_Mala_Est, Cookiekiss, Chipmunk Spunk, YahYah, Mandy, Spike Rules89, Gregb, SunnyGorilla |
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Apr 27 2006, 10:28 AM
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![]() Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 3-September 05 From: Buffalo, NY |
i've used 2 bottles of neutrogena healthy skin face lotion spf 15 w/ 8% glycolic acid. 2 pumps, 2 times a day. i love it. it stings for a few minutes, but it's not bad
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My Regimen: -Cleanse with any bar of soap. Preferably one that doesn't dry your skin. -I've recently started using Acnefree Step 1 Cleanser w/ 2.5% BP. It's like the Proactiv step 1, but a huge bottle is only $5 at Walmart. Beats a basic soap bar, and saves on BP gel. -Dan's BP Gel -Neutrogena Healthy Skin Face Lotion w/ SPF 15 -Lily of the Desert 99% Organic Aloe Gel w/ Vit A, C, E (Whole Foods) to get rid of shiny oil from the Neutrogena (During the day only)
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Apr 27 2006, 10:51 AM
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Regimen user since 2005 Group: Regimen Assistance Joined: 27-February 05 From: USA |
QUOTE(Dan @ Apr 27 2006, 11:24 AM) [snapback]1106258[/snapback] I tried the Eucerin Extra Protective. Wow, it was bad, at least with BP. lol. It stayed on my skin and white. I couldn't get it absorbed. Then I woke up this morning and was really dry. So...that's a serious no go. I'm going to try the Complex15 again today. I liked it the last 2 times I tried it. ho dee hum. Anybody else have suggestions on good moisturizers? The exact same thing happened to me with the Eucerin Extra Protective, lol.
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Apr 27 2006, 10:58 AM
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I recently started using Dove Deep Moisture. While I haven't tried Eucerin, I tried a few others and none of them kept the flakes away. The BP had turned my nose and cheekbone area into one big callous. This Dove moisturizer softened my whole face, so I don't feel like an alien anymore. It has SPF, but doesn't sting my face like the others did, and it doesn't make me shiny.
Anyway, maybe that's another one to look into.
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