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Sep 9 2006, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(Cubsfan @ Sep 9 2006, 01:06 AM) [snapback]1342101[/snapback] shite are u still here sweetjade? (aka longjade) I've conquered acne with NOD (Natural & Organic Diet) = No Acne, simple. NOD Rules! NOD NOD NOD LOL, yeah, but I'm not needed as much anymore. Members aren't arguing over whether diet/food causes acne, but rather WHICH diet is the best for preventing acne! Big change in the past few months, but we've got some brilliant members of this board and I trust they will take care of things just nicely. I did however create this sticky thread for as a reference source months ago. Just a few weeks ago members were asking for individual sticky posts covering a variety of topics. I just don't think it's feasible to have 10 or 15 sticky posts, especially when they are all relating to various diets or b5 or some other holistic regimen...hence why this thread was created. Yet no one is adding their personal stories or providing an overview of a particular diet or cleansing method that they've found success in so...what to do. Say, since NOD works for you, please add it to this thread and maybe more will do the same. Peace
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These are not steps, but stages some people progress through when going from conventional to holistic medicine. Stage 2 is how I became 99%+ Clear, eliminated my dysmennorhea, significantly reduced my sebum & pore size, etc & is my predominant method. Stage 1 (Treatment): * (Daily) Isocare Skin Control Cleanser, Dream Products Customized Natural Face Lotion & Coppertone Sport Spray Sunscreen (mixed) * (Sporadically) spot treat w/ anti-inflammatory (neosporin, hydrocortisone, salicylic acid) or a skin lightener (post-inflammatory pigmentation) to treat stubborn cystic/nodular acne that appears due to unknowingly or knowingly ingesting a food/ingredient that breaks me out (I do my best to avoid these foods). If you cover treated area w/ a bandaid, it makes product more effective. Stage 2 (Prevention): "cheapest" method ~ Since Aug. 2002 * Follow a Gluten-Free, Trans-Fat Free, Dairy-Free and No Added Sugar diet for my Insulin Resistance/Hyperandrogenism (Silent Chronic Inflammatory Syndrome) * Avoid ALL types of nuts and the Genus Prunus (almonds, plums, peaches, nectarines, apricots, cherries), Bananas, Pineapples, Cottonseed oil, Artificial Sweetners. Stage 3 (Correction): * 1/18/08 Ultimate Colon Cleanse (30 day program) Research: * Developing functional foods for those with acne & other special needs (assuming there's a defficiency). * Good & "safe" blend for anti-hirsutism formula (incl. NAC, Folic Acid Mega Therapy, Liver Cleansers, d-Chiro-Inositol, etc) - dietary changes helped some, but not enough, hoping Correction Stage may also solve this. |
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Sep 13 2006, 01:58 AM
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Buongiorno, Principessa! Group: Veteran Members Joined: 2-May 03 From: and the winner is....sydney! |
QUOTE(SweetJade1980 @ Sep 9 2006, 07:41 AM) [snapback]1342554[/snapback] Say, since NOD works for you, please add it to this thread and maybe more will do the same. Peace NOD is really simple to follow, any food that's natural and organic (N&O) eat it, if its not N&O don't eat it this is my daily diet: Breakfast - muesli (rolled oats) with orange and mango juice - vegetable juice - corn - sweet potatoes - eggs (if scrambled add soy milk) - i eat the free range eggs (chickens that haven't been drugged up) - tea - water - salmon - rice cakes - avocados - lime or lemon for flavouring, I use a veggie spice instead of salt Lunch - brown rice, meat, seafood, tomatoes, carrots, bok choy, any vegetables - cooking oil: extra virgin olive oil - fruits Dinner - same as lunch Downside: It really empties your wallet, you can only really buy like less than 1% of the food in the supermarket, its really difficult to find N & O foods but just shop over the internet - much easier, you have to keep looking at the packaging and spot stuff like no added sugar, artifical colors, flavours etc. Upside: Greater nutritional value, greater health, you never get sick (save on indirect costs like medical bills, no need to buy skincare products, loss of labor), no acne, less oily skin a wise man once said...."man steals but nature heals "
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Sep 28 2006, 10:53 PM
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The important thing to understand is that the diet that will help each person will be different depending on the underlying issues. I strongly recommend getting tests as well, because they can help solve mysteries.
For me, a stool test and a blood test put me on the right track. I discovered I was extremely anemic and that I had an overgrowth of klebsiella - a 'bad' bacteria that feeds on starch. I took 2 logical steps - I started eating meat and I cut way back on the starches. Hey presto, no more acne. I'll outline my diet, but I just want to stress that I think it worked so well because it directly addressed MY issues. That being said, many people seem to have success with some type of 'low carb' diet. I read about a few of them, and now I don't follow any specific one, but instead what I have found works for me through trial and error. I eat; eggs, meat, vegetables, cheese, yogurt, butter, fruit/dried fruit/applesauce, nuts. I might eat beans or potatoes once or twice a week. I've been doing this (and keeping a food/symptom journal) since mid-June with good results.
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My regimen: Eat regularly: a wide variety of vegetables, eggs, meat/fish, cheese, yogurt, butter, fruit, nuts/seeds. Occasionally eat: beans, squash, potatoes. Don't eat: sugar, grains, most processed food. |
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Oct 29 2006, 11:28 AM
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I'm having troubles eating right, because last month I moved into my apartment (to get to Uni, in another town) and lunches are the worst. I usually eat something at Uni because I don't even have lunch time, and when I have it, I have to move from my faculty to another and I don't have really time for it...
So, my face is getting so muchcia worst, of course, and even at dinner because I don't live alone, and the shopping list is made from both of us, and we don't really have that much room to take all different foods... I have never thought that my acne was diet related, since I didn't think I had that bad of a diet last year, but I surely had bad acne, (which completely cleared up after Roaccutane) but now it's returing and I'm so scared it will become that bad, because now I live with my friend, and I can't even wash my make up off at night without crying almost, because I'm sooo scared... Anyway, 2 years ago I read here the diary effect and I stopped drinking milk in the mornings and it seems having helped, and I went on drinking goat milk or just tea... I used to eat a lot of sweets and rafined sugars, pasta, bread but I also ate salad every evening at dinner and fish and healthier things in general... Now all I'm eating is pizza, as it's my lunch most days as said before, or sandwiches, pasta, some meat (but it's prepared in an italian way, like you bread it and then fry it...yeah, I know) fried potatos (on saturday nights, when I go out), wurstel, a sort of italian bread, yogurt, sometimes ice cream, rarely salad, coffee, coca cola (which I didn't drink it often at all), pop corn...and sweets, lots of them because her mum brings them to us when she comes visiting... So you get the situation.... Of course my face is looking sooo much worse and I'm so scared, because I won't eat as well as before, because all I can eat everyday at lunch is either pizza or hamburger or bread with something because I can't come back home... Nevertheless I will gain so much weight (which I REALLY have no need to...). I need advise how to improve my diet, because I don't like eating this way, and apparently my face neither..
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My Roaccutane Log 2nd course! Roaccutane started on November 3rd. 30mgs daily (20 for the first 10 days). Female, 19 years old. Current acne status: Mild to moderate. Mostly moderate lately Morning: Dove soap or another natural very gentle soap for oily and impure skin Moisturizer Erbolario 'Oily and Impure Skin' Arianna (Birth Control Pill) Collistar Perfect Wear Foundation Evening (after school): Dove soap or the other one ROC Purif-AC Moisturizer for skin under anti-acne treatments Roaccutane 30mg I've been holding back now my whole life I've decided to move on now Gonna leave all my worries behind Oh I belive I am ready for what love has to give Got myself together now I'm ready to live |
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Apr 18 2007, 06:53 PM
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You have to attack acne where it starts, with your diet. For me, diet was the cause and solution. Topical medications fight the symptoms. Start by eliminating trans fats and eating more fruits and vegetables. Once you start cleaning up the inside of your body, by eating properly, the outside of your body (your skin) will be get cleaned up too. I started a website to document my problem and solution.
http://www.fredstown.com/acne.html You might find it helpful to read my story. Just remember to eat an all natural/organic diet with lots of fruits and vegetables. Stay away from processed foods. Use mild, all natural cleansers and don't pick at your face. Get lots of sleep and enough water for your body weight. Remember, clean body = clean skin. While you're waiting for your skin to clear, remind yourself that acne is a challenge that you will overcome soon. Once you're rid of it, tell all your friends how you did it. That's what I'm doing. God Bless. http://www.fredstown.com/acne.html |
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Apr 22 2007, 01:42 PM
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![]() *`*~Acne Be Gone Fairy~*`* Group: Veteran Members Joined: 5-August 06 From: Once upon a dream.... USA |
I'd like to reinforce how wonderful fresh, leafy greens are for those with acne. When I added leafy greens to my already healthy diet, my acne went away almost entirely within 6 weeks.
Dr. Joel Fuhrman, one of the most credible and scientifically accurate doctors in America, recommends greens more than any other food to help with skin problems. Green smoothies are a very easy and tasty way to get in your fresh fruits and greens for the day. The smoothies taste like fruit smoothies, because the greens are blended with fruit, and the fruit masks the flavor of the greens. You also get four times the amount of nutrition, as the blender is able to more thoroughly break down the cell walls than chewing can alone. Dr. Fuhrman confirms this. Even if they don't help your skin, you'll get terrific health benefits. To read more about green smoothies, click here: http://www.acne.org/messageboard/FABULOUS-Skin-Food-G-t108917.html
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"...whatsoever things are true, honest, just, pure, lovely, or of good report; if there be any virtue and if there be any praise, think on these things." ~Philippians 4:8~ * Daily green smoothies at least 6 days a week keep me clear! Click here |
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May 29 2007, 03:59 PM
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![]() Whitey™ Group: Veteran Members Joined: 13-May 07 From: Kent, England |
hey
where can i go to gest tested on what foods might be causing my acne?
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Jun 3 2007, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(Whitey @ May 29 2007, 05:59 PM) [snapback]1881277[/snapback] hey where can i go to gest tested on what foods might be causing my acne? I am wondering the same thing. |
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Jun 3 2007, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(FredsTown.com @ Apr 18 2007, 08:53 PM) [snapback]1809947[/snapback] You have to attack acne where it starts, with your diet. For me, diet was the cause and solution. Topical medications fight the symptoms. Start by eliminating trans fats and eating more fruits and vegetables. Once you start cleaning up the inside of your body, by eating properly, the outside of your body (your skin) will be get cleaned up too. I started a website to document my problem and solution. http://www.fredstown.com/acne.html You might find it helpful to read my story. Just remember to eat an all natural/organic diet with lots of fruits and vegetables. Stay away from processed foods. Use mild, all natural cleansers and don't pick at your face. Get lots of sleep and enough water for your body weight. Remember, clean body = clean skin. While you're waiting for your skin to clear, remind yourself that acne is a challenge that you will overcome soon. Once you're rid of it, tell all your friends how you did it. That's what I'm doing. God Bless. http://www.fredstown.com/acne.html Dude.. I was reading your site and found it very helpful. The following quote is great: Instead I shopped the perimeter of the grocery store for fresh fruits, vegetables, fish, chicken and beef. |
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Jun 29 2007, 01:02 PM
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![]() Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 22-April 07 From: Nottingham, UK |
The leaky gut syndrome part of this thread needs some attention! And anything that has to do with digestive problems. I only just noticed this "pinned" topic today, as i suddenly worked out what LGS means
I started an anti LGS regime just under 4 weeks ago, and it's working a treat for me so far (pics in gallery under profile) - just waiting for time to pass to see if i'm right or not (100% clear is the only goal for me). I haven't messed with my diet too much, or removed any whole food groups (like grains, dairy) - and i still occasionally have really "bad" foods. So somethings definitely helping, LGS, digestion or what - as it's working i don't really care! Any of the original posters still around?
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?tnarelotni esotcurF uoy erA After all, man is not what he eats, but what he can digest and assimilate. And i can't assimilate much fructose at all! |
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Feb 20 2008, 02:59 PM
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What do you think of peppermint tea used to control androgens?
http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/lofiver...php/t27791.html - Eric
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morning: Lactoferrin (250mg), AcNomore by Balanceuticals (3 pills), vitamin C (2g), B-complex, Multivitamin, Calcium (900mg) vitamin D (800IU), Glucomannan (1g) afternoon: Taurine (1000mg), AcNomore by Balanceuticals (3 pills), vitamin C (2000mg), B-complex, vitamin D (800IU), Magnesium (225mg), Glucomannan (1g) evening: Lactoferrin (250mg), Taurine (1000mg), AcNomore by Balanceuticals (3 pills), vitamin C (2000mg), vitamin D (400IU), Magnesium (225mg) Glucomannan (1g) others: detoxilean by Swanson Vitamins isotrentinoin 10mg / twice a week goji berry extract american ginseng bitter melon extract spearmint tea (2 cups/day) digestive enzymes probiotics omega3s quercitin GFCF diet / low GI |
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Feb 24 2008, 03:26 PM
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This weekend I came across a small book on Leaky Gut from Vitamin Cottage and thought it made a lot of sense that this could be a major root cause of acne. This is by no means a "end your acne with my regimen" post. I simply found it quite interesting in providing a solid understanding of how acne, diet, and digestion all work together.
After reading this book, I'm finding many common themes with leaky gut and acne regimens that seem to work one way or another on this site. This book mentions so many of the methods people are using here with I felt like I was discovering the missing link I've been battling cystic for about 13 years now. After 3 rounds on the tane, every antibiotic in the cabinet, and topicals to boot, I've finally said F-it to modern dermatology practice and starting going down the holistic road. I've gotten my skin to "somewhat tolerable" condition and only have few cysts and moderate acne elsewhere. Still its persistent, and damages my social life as so many of you can relate to. So anyway, what I'm posting here is my objective research on leaky gut, its relationship to acne, what causes it, how to diagnose it, and how to help heal your wounded digestion. This is something I just found, so I'm putting together a new regimen and putting the research here to the test myself and will track my progression as time goes on. Since reading this book I've done the "spit test" for Candida, failed miserably, and am now fairly confident I've found what could be the root of it all: candida and leaky gut syndrome. *Warning, this is a long post with lots of quoted material* *Also, I'm by no means an expert I'm simply relaying information from a published source. Please take this information with a grain of salt!* Here's a preview of the book I reference and quote throughout this post: http://books.google.com/books?id=rGs7cj5UY...ky+gut+syndrome What is Leaky Gut Syndrome? Its basically a condition where the mucus layer of your stomach (which functions as a barrier to keep bad molecules out) is weakened and thinned, which allows bacteria and fungi to pass directly into the bloodstream and into the body. The liver is then charged with clearing out these foreign bodies, but can get overwhelmed with too much work load. When that happen the liver stores this bacteria, fungi, etc into fat cells so it can get to them later. The liver often never catches up and the body is left to expel the waste in another manner, i.e. acne. Some Common Clinical Conditions Associated with Leaky Gut The 7 stages of the "inflamed" gut. What causes Leaky Gut? Pain Medications Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) like apsin, ibuprofen, and indomethacin are a common cause of leaky gut syndrom. NSAIDs work by blocking prostalglandins, which are tiny messengers that circulate throughout the body. Some prostaglandins cause healing and repair; others pain and inflammation. However, NSAIDs drugs block all prostaglandins. Since the digestive tract repairs and replaces itself every three to five days, prolonged use of NSAIDs block its repairs, which can lead to leaky gut. Dysbiosis Basically a fancy term for saying there isn't a proper balance of good bacteria (flora) and bad bacteria (pathogens) in your digestive tract. Quoted from the book: Normally, we have hundreds of types of bacteria living inside our digestive tract. In fact, we have more bacteria living inside our digestive tract than cells in our body. Many of these are helpful (flora), some are neutral (commensal) and others are harmful (pathogenic). Antibiotics As mentioned above, antibiotics change the balance of intestinal microbes. Antibiotics simultaneously kill both harmful and helpful bacteria, leaving the territory open to resistant bacteria, parasites, viruses and fungi. In a healthy gut these are kept in check by healthy microbes. When left unchecked, they colonize the area, contributing to inflammation, irritation and disease. Candida, a fungus, is the most common microbe to flourish in this new environment. Chronic Stress I think I'm a victim of this as well...
Poor Food Choices
Food and Environmental Sensitivities I find this part really interesting in explaining how diets can be so different for many people, and why it would cause a spark in acne:
How to diagnose Leaky Gut I'll be brief in this section since there's a lot to it in the book and I'll explain in more detail as questions come up.
What you can do to help your Leaky Gut Restoring Digestive Function
Reducing Oxidative Damage with Antioxidants There's a lot on how natural antioxidants help the system so I'll be brief. The most powerful antioxidant substances are bioflavonoids, carotenoids, coenzyme Q10, glutathione, lipioc acid, selenium and vitamins C and E. All the antioxidants work together as a team to protect us. Each has a specific job which compliments the others so they must be used in balance. Detoxification: How to remove the toxins There's a lot of info out there about detox programs, so I'll just list possible regimens:
Reducing your exposure to toxic substances Kind of an over arching topic of how to control environmental toxins you can't control, i.e. exhaust fumes, second-hand smoke, and air pollution.
Rules for a Lifetime of Healthful Eating Another broad topic of lifestyles changes that can help reduce leaky gut. These are offered in the book as good general practices to keep in mind when putting food in your body.
Rebuilding Intestinal Mucosa with Supportive Nutrients Most nutrients help restore the digestive integrity. A comprehensive program of nutritional supplements will help the cells regenerate, providing a ladder to climb out of the deep hole we're in. You'll find the following nutrients (most important listed first) offer special benefits when healing leaky gut. You can find them in products especially designed to enhance gut function. I won't get into the details of each one, but I'll but down the book's suggested doses. Some are listed without suggested doses, sorry.
My Personal Leaky-Gut/Candida Regimen So, armed with the knowledge I've tried to share here, I've reworked my daily routine and am starting up on a new regimen. I know lots of other folks on these boards have had success with one or several of the suggested treatments here, so hopefully this post can help connect some dots for people and have a better idea to what causes their acne. For me, knowing its quite possible I have leaky gut and a nasty case of Candida (damn you anti-bios!), I'll be taking on a diet change as well as supplementation. Here's my current plan (subject to change)
Thats it! I hope some people find this information to be the missing-link they were looking for�€”I feel fairly confident this is where my acne stems from so wish me luck in the new regimen! I hope to open up discussion on the topic since I only found scattered information on leaky gut here on the forums. Cheers! |
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Feb 24 2008, 03:40 PM
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![]() Member Group: Members Joined: 16-September 07 From: London, England |
That's a lot of really useful information.
I and a lot of other people would agree with you that the problem stems from digestive issues. My regimen consists of a low sugar and carb diet, probiotics and prebiotics, and taking psyllium husks for fibre. I also eat soya yoghurt that contains bifidus, this is to control DHT. My skin has been slowly improving for months, I'm not at the point yet where I can say I'm clear but if I keep improving then it isn't far off. I wish you every success! |
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Feb 24 2008, 03:57 PM
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![]() Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 28-January 08 From: USA |
serkios,
I am so with you on so much of this. Magazines and articles link lack of enzymes in your system, (as you get older, the less you have) to acne, hair loss, etc., since the nutrition in your food isn't absorbed. Also, antibiotics and all the sugar/starch we do eat is a big factor for most in regards to yeast infections and not having "friendly flora" Adding stress to the mix is something we all have to deal with. It gets worse as we stress about our face and our appearance. Good luck, I will follow you to see what works! DWHAA
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Feb 24 2008, 05:34 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 11-January 08 From: maine |
Oh my.. this is a very interesting thread. I have alot in common with you! I stated an anti candida diet 6 weeks ago, with a nutritionist. I've been taking the herbs you mentioned, (switching every week) and following a very strict diet. Rice pasta and brown rice were ok. Also taking probiotics, but she recently found an article about fermented cabbage juice, this is an excellent source (and cheap) of good bacteria. Tastes like sauerkraut. Go to eregimens.com look for cultured cabbage juice.
So all of what you reported has clicked for me. I'm anxious to see your results. Oh so after I eliminated sugar my acne cleared, but I'm not out of the leaky gut woods yet. Does the book say how long this may take? Well keep us posted! serkios, serkios..I am so with you on so much of this. Magazines and articles link lack of enzymes in your system, (as you get older, the less you have) to acne, hair loss, etc., since the nutrition in your food isn't absorbed. Also, antibiotics and all the sugar/starch we do eat is a big factor for most in regards to yeast infections and not having "friendly flora" Adding stress to the mix is something we all have to deal with. It gets worse as we stress about our face and our appearance. Good luck, I will follow you to see what works! DWHAA Hey so have you done anything like this ? Like diet change ect? What have you heard about this and Hair loss???!!! I've noticed a problem as I get older, thinning, whats the connection? Have you read any articles about this? |
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Feb 24 2008, 05:52 PM
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I still don't see how the skin expelling toxins is related to acne. No where in the commonly accepted pathogenesis of acne will you see anything about toxins being related to the formation of acne. I do believe leaky gut is a real problem and I can see how it would degrade overall health, but I don't see any way it majorly contributes to acne.
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Feb 24 2008, 06:03 PM
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Does the book say how long this may take? It didn't mention anything specific, no. Basically it was a general overview of leaky gut and isn't geared specifically to curing acne. It just lists and mentions cystic acne several times as one of the symptoms of leaky gut. They say the inner lining of the stomach is completely replaced every 3-5 days, so I'm hoping with discipline I'll results in the first week. I'd think it would be similar to many other acne treatments, and will probably take anywhere from 4-6 weeks for acne to be pushed to the surface of the skin and run its course no matter how effective the treatment. serkios.. Hey so have you done anything like this ? Like diet change ect? What have you heard about this and Hair loss???!!! I've noticed a problem as I get older, thinning, whats the connection? Have you read any articles about this? I've only seriously started changing my diet starting back in November 07. Mostly being conscious of low-fructose, low-carbs, high-protein and getting enough fiber in my diet. This regimen has me taking more a drastic change than I've done before, but I've slowly been changing my diet over time to get rid of the bad habits I developed in college. A couple years ago I was eating out all the time, drinking several times a week, and generally not being aware of my diet or health. With the general changes in lifestyle and diet over the last 3-4 months, I've seen a much better improvement in my skin and generally energy level and seem more relaxed mentally. Basically when I started the changes in November, I also ditched the dermatologist prescribed antibiotics they've had me on forever. From that point I've been going down a holistic search to control my acne symptoms. Part of me feared a total breakout without the antibio's... but luckily thats been far from the truth. I hated my dependence on those and am much happier trying holistic approaches even if I have some regressions, its still better for me overall. I haven't read anything specific to hair-loss. Just across the boards I've caught sight of some people saying it may be due to a hormonal imbalance with too much estrogen. I'd look at the posts on DIM for more info on that. Leaky gut has also been linked to hormonal imbalances however, so the two may be linked. |
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Feb 24 2008, 06:15 PM
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I still don't see how the skin expelling toxins is related to acne. No where in the commonly accepted pathogenesis of acne will you see anything about toxins being related to the formation of acne. I do believe leaky gut is a real problem and I can see how it would degrade overall health, but I don't see any way it majorly contributes to acne. I'm no expert, but I think it's related to the inflammation of acne, and possibly also the metabolism of hormones being affected. If your body is having trouble dealing with toxins, it upsets the hormonal balance, which plays havoc with sebum and skin shedding, causing the blockages in pores. Perhaps then the cause of inflammation is your body reacting to the toxic build up originating in your gut by responding to any kind of infection, and therefore over-reacting to p. acne's in the blocked pores, causing inflammation. Just my thoughts, I have thought along the same lines are you were, but that's a possible answer. Makes sense to me until someone tells me I'm wrong |
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Feb 24 2008, 06:17 PM
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I still don't see how the skin expelling toxins is related to acne. No where in the commonly accepted pathogenesis of acne will you see anything about toxins being related to the formation of acne. I do believe leaky gut is a real problem and I can see how it would degrade overall health, but I don't see any way it majorly contributes to acne. Hmm, well I thought I hit this with the intro paragraph, but here's another explaination in list form!
Basically you're over-saturating your body with bacteria and fungi and your body defenses are internally overwhelmed, so the waste is removed by the last line of internal defense.... your skin. |
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Feb 24 2008, 06:21 PM
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I still don't see how the skin expelling toxins is related to acne. No where in the commonly accepted pathogenesis of acne will you see anything about toxins being related to the formation of acne. I do believe leaky gut is a real problem and I can see how it would degrade overall health, but I don't see any way it majorly contributes to acne. I'm no expert, but I think it's related to the inflammation of acne, and possibly also the metabolism of hormones being affected. If your body is having trouble dealing with toxins, it upsets the hormonal balance, which plays havoc with sebum and skin shedding, causing the blockages in pores. Perhaps then the cause of inflammation is your body reacting to the toxic build up originating in your gut by responding to any kind of infection, and therefore over-reacting to p. acne's in the blocked pores, causing inflammation. Just my thoughts, I have thought along the same lines are you were, but that's a possible answer. Makes sense to me until someone tells me I'm wrong If leaky gut plays a role in upsetting hormone imbalance, then I can see how it could indirectly cause acne. Does anyone know if/how leaky gut specifically affects hormone levels? I don't believe inflammation in and of itself causes acne either, but rather is more of a byproduct. Also, again if you have any more information about specifically what toxins are absorbed through a leaky-gut, what body tissues they are stored in and what the direct effect of those stored toxins are, and how that relates to the pathogenesis of acne, I'd love to learn more. |
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