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Apr 11 2006, 05:26 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 27-February 06 From: South Africa |
Hi there,
I suffer with lower back pain, been on accutane for almost 6 weeks now. I run about 30kms a week and have had to cut down on the amount of running I normally do because of mainly sore hip joints. I also have sore muscles in my legs, but it's not that bad. The sore hip joints however are seriously painful. I was wondering what the accutane actually does to give one this side effect.. maybe I could treat it. Anyone? I take omega 3 twice a day and it doesnt' seem to be of much help.
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MinxyMech's Regimens Pill Popping: Accutane 50mg a day, started 6 March 06, for 4 months Multivitamine once a day Female support Supplement herbs; don quai, black cohosh, vitex and ginseng once a day Omega 3 (Fish oil and Flaxseed oil) twice a day Milk thistle once or twice a week Skin: Wash with Neutrogena extra mild cleansing cream twice a day Moisturise once a day with Happyderm Blistex on lips every hour - marvellous stuff! My Accutane Gallery |
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Apr 11 2006, 06:03 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 3-April 06 |
QUOTE(MinxyMech @ Apr 11 2006, 05:26 AM) [snapback]1075354[/snapback] Hi there, I suffer with lower back pain, been on accutane for almost 6 weeks now. I run about 30kms a week and have had to cut down on the amount of running I normally do because of mainly sore hip joints. I also have sore muscles in my legs, but it's not that bad. The sore hip joints however are seriously painful. I was wondering what the accutane actually does to give one this side effect.. maybe I could treat it. Anyone? I take omega 3 twice a day and it doesnt' seem to be of much help. No one is quite sure. At the very least, it probably has to do with an overall drying effect on the body. Some research is being done that shows Accutane may also decrease hyaluronic acid and bone mineral density and may cause calification of tendons. While Accutane side effects are considered short term, I know of many people, including myself, who believe the drug affected their joints for the long run. Get a thorough exam from a doc to see if there are other issues, though. And you may want to consider cutting back your running for the duration. It was recommended to me to stop all high impact aerobic activities while on the drug. Best of luck with your treatment.
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Apr 11 2006, 07:14 AM
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![]() Ribbit! Group: Veteran Members Joined: 25-November 02 From: Tampa, FL |
The theory is that it dries out the connective tissues and cushioning fluids in the joints. It seems that taking fish oil supplements really helps - they have an anti-inflammatory effect and somehow aid in the lubrication of joints.
QUOTE Some research is being done that shows Accutane may also decrease hyaluronic acid Do you have a link to this research? My google searches find pages with the opposite finding.
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Currently - all clear! Maintaining my last Accutane course (10/05-04/06) click here for log Yasmin on Seasonale schedule Green Cream lvl 6 Shiseido White Lucent system (cleanser, and SPF 16 moisturizer (no way, SPF that doesn't sting!?)) |
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Apr 11 2006, 07:25 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 27-February 06 From: South Africa |
Thanks for your replies.
I'm really a fitness freak, am absolutely addicted and can't see how I'm going to cut my running out completely. But, if I have to I should.
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MinxyMech's Regimens Pill Popping: Accutane 50mg a day, started 6 March 06, for 4 months Multivitamine once a day Female support Supplement herbs; don quai, black cohosh, vitex and ginseng once a day Omega 3 (Fish oil and Flaxseed oil) twice a day Milk thistle once or twice a week Skin: Wash with Neutrogena extra mild cleansing cream twice a day Moisturise once a day with Happyderm Blistex on lips every hour - marvellous stuff! My Accutane Gallery |
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Apr 11 2006, 07:34 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 3-April 06 |
QUOTE Do you have a link to this research? My google searches find pages with the opposite finding. Hi beentheredonethat: Insert this into a Google search: Thalidomide II: The Horrors and Life-long Side Effects from the Acne Drug, Accutane, and a Potential Cure. The link to this PDF document should come up as the first result. Upload it and go to page four, right hand column, under the sub-heading "The HA Connection."
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My regimen: Mornings: Neutrogena Fresh Foaming Cleanser Paula's Choice Skin Balancing Toner, Oily/Combination Skin (no alcohol, tons of antioxidants) Duac gel Clinique's Super Defense Triple Action Moisturizer SPF 25 Normal to Oily Skin Evenings: Neutrogena Fresh Foaming Cleanser Paula's Choice Skin Balancing Toner, Oily/Combination Skin (no alcohol, tons of antioxidants) Retin A Paula's Choice Skin Balancing Moisture Gel Normal to Oily/Combination Skin Make-Up (on the days I have to wear it for business, etc.): Either Almay's Clear Complexion Blemish Healing Makeup Oil Free or Estee Lauder Equalizer Smart Makeup for Combination Skin SPF 10 Both these foundations impart a smooth, silky, non-oily finish and neither dry out my face nor make it break out. I apply a very light coat with a damp makeup sponge and then set with MAC Studio Finish Face Powder. To conceal blemishes, I take a very fine makeup brush, dip it in foundation and then in powder, dot on blemish, and blend, blend, blend. This method provides even, natural looking coverage for almost any pimple. |
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Apr 11 2006, 08:20 AM
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![]() Ribbit! Group: Veteran Members Joined: 25-November 02 From: Tampa, FL |
Yeh, that's the propaganda piece that is full of misinformation. I mean a link to actual research.
The only research i've been able to locate indicates the exact opposite effect in pig skin - pigs are often used in medical reasearch because of their medical simularity to humans. QUOTE Epidermal hyaluronic acid synthesis in pig skin is increased by all-trans-retinoic acid, all-trans-retinyl acetate, 13-cis-retinoic acid (that's isotretinoin = Accutane) and etretinate.
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Currently - all clear! Maintaining my last Accutane course (10/05-04/06) click here for log Yasmin on Seasonale schedule Green Cream lvl 6 Shiseido White Lucent system (cleanser, and SPF 16 moisturizer (no way, SPF that doesn't sting!?)) |
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Apr 11 2006, 08:57 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 27-April 05 |
MinxyMech I noticed you take multivitamins. Make sure there is no Vitamin A in them.
DawgDaze64 I checked the article and here we go. Page 2 - “This child was a happy, well-balanced, forward-thinking child who had a great deal to live for. This was psychotic and the only conclusion we have been able to draw is the Accutane poisoned him.� --Julie Bishop, mother of Charles Bishop who flew a plane into a building and committed suicide. Fifteen-year old Charles Bishop flew a suicidal mission into an office building in Tampa, Florida. Bishop had been taking Accutane. He had never taken it! That's proven.
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Apr 11 2006, 09:06 AM
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![]() Ribbit! Group: Veteran Members Joined: 25-November 02 From: Tampa, FL |
Yep, he had no trace of it in his system at the autopsy. The whole article is highly questionable.
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Currently - all clear! Maintaining my last Accutane course (10/05-04/06) click here for log Yasmin on Seasonale schedule Green Cream lvl 6 Shiseido White Lucent system (cleanser, and SPF 16 moisturizer (no way, SPF that doesn't sting!?)) |
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Apr 11 2006, 09:13 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 27-April 05 |
Good advice on supplemental vitamins and minerals at least.
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--- Recurrence Rates and Relapse Risk Factors of Acne Treatment with Oral Isotretinoin ---
All good things come to those who wait. |
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Apr 11 2006, 12:25 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 3-April 06 |
While I think a lot of medical info, pro and con, is propaganda of some sort
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My regimen: Mornings: Neutrogena Fresh Foaming Cleanser Paula's Choice Skin Balancing Toner, Oily/Combination Skin (no alcohol, tons of antioxidants) Duac gel Clinique's Super Defense Triple Action Moisturizer SPF 25 Normal to Oily Skin Evenings: Neutrogena Fresh Foaming Cleanser Paula's Choice Skin Balancing Toner, Oily/Combination Skin (no alcohol, tons of antioxidants) Retin A Paula's Choice Skin Balancing Moisture Gel Normal to Oily/Combination Skin Make-Up (on the days I have to wear it for business, etc.): Either Almay's Clear Complexion Blemish Healing Makeup Oil Free or Estee Lauder Equalizer Smart Makeup for Combination Skin SPF 10 Both these foundations impart a smooth, silky, non-oily finish and neither dry out my face nor make it break out. I apply a very light coat with a damp makeup sponge and then set with MAC Studio Finish Face Powder. To conceal blemishes, I take a very fine makeup brush, dip it in foundation and then in powder, dot on blemish, and blend, blend, blend. This method provides even, natural looking coverage for almost any pimple. |
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Apr 11 2006, 05:56 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 5-February 05 |
That Tampa plane crash pisses me off... I hate when it's brought up and it makes me feel like most of the hype associated with accutane is all scare tactics because this freaking nightmare of a 15-year-old wanker had never taken Accutane..he only had a prescription for it. He was a psycho on his own free will, and accutane had NOTHING to do with it.. But yet it was overly hyped that he had Accutane. Then after it was proven that he had never taken the drug, it was barely mentioned..leaving the impression in your mind that Accutane in fact makes you fly planes into bank buildings. Another doozy of a side effect. Maybe it was subliminal...You now don't even have to take the pill, just get the prescription written for it and you will turn into a crazy person!!!
And that article is another piece of garbage posing as scientific research floating around the internet. *puts on my Donald Trump wig* Al Gore is fired for creating the internet!!!! And whoever wrote that article is FIRED, and Julie Bishop, mother of 15 year old nightmare Charles Bishop is FIRED!!!!!!!! Christ Almighty I need a Tylenol. lol
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Apr 12 2006, 07:21 AM
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![]() Ribbit! Group: Veteran Members Joined: 25-November 02 From: Tampa, FL |
QUOTE You now don't even have to take the pill, just get the prescription written for it and you will turn into a crazy person!!! Osmosis! QUOTE *puts on my Donald Trump wig* Al Gore is fired for creating the internet!!!! And whoever wrote that article is FIRED, and Julie Bishop, mother of 15 year old nightmare Charles Bishop is FIRED!!!!!!!! rofl
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Currently - all clear! Maintaining my last Accutane course (10/05-04/06) click here for log Yasmin on Seasonale schedule Green Cream lvl 6 Shiseido White Lucent system (cleanser, and SPF 16 moisturizer (no way, SPF that doesn't sting!?)) |
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Apr 12 2006, 01:38 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 5-February 05 |
LOL Whoa I just re-read my post and apparently I was having a bad day? Whewwww and I haven't even started ACcutane yet... However, the mood swings are starting. I guess osmosis is true.
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Nov 30 2008, 04:31 PM
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The theory is that it dries out the connective tissues and cushioning fluids in the joints. It seems that taking fish oil supplements really helps - they have an anti-inflammatory effect and somehow aid in the lubrication of joints. QUOTE Some research is being done that shows Accutane may also decrease hyaluronic acid Do you have a link to this research? My google searches find pages with the opposite finding. I thought you couldn't take fish oil because of the high amount of vitamin a in the oil and the accutane? |
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Dec 2 2008, 02:17 PM
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Member Group: Members Joined: 6-November 08 |
To use a simplified analogy, think of a car running without oil, or running low on oil. (oil as in oil change, not the gas for fuel). The car's gears, mechanical parts, etc. would be GRINDING against each other without the necessary lubrication. It's basically the same with Accutane. Obviously, it's done a lot of good, but the side effects are pretty bad.
By the way, I don't mean to offend anyone by my accutane statements. It sounded like a miracle when I first heard about it but I'm 21 and I have arthritis so it's never going to be an option for me. |
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